Reynor brings MASS BROOD LORDS back!

[@Pleasers]

Best zergs in the world stay with early to mid game units into late game because 1 unit hard counters all late game units, seems balanced

[@gerkahn8179]

They counter not only all lategame units, they counter every unit Zerg has.

[@Kazuhiro-i]

​@@gerkahn8179and every protoss unit* oh and every Terran unit*

[@schippes24]

And it'd be balanced so easily. Just give the emp to the raven and be done with it. Ghost is still strong that way and the raven gets promoted out of a niche

[@daikatarokamegawa542]

They don't counter all Zerg lategame units, you silly. They're only good against units that have: -The bio tag -The light tag -Have shields -Have energy Other than those, they're just ok!

[@schippes24]

@@daikatarokamegawa542 you forgot the one with a normal amount of HP (snipe)

[@davidstud3952]

Lowko really trying to contain himself in not saying Ghost ridiculously OP 😁

[@LowkoTV]

They definitely need a bit of a nerf in my opinion yes

[@davidstud3952]

@@LowkoTV You are absolutely correct!

[@timgarnett1427]

What would be a good nerf? Some possibilities, remove the bonus damage to light, add the light attribute, and / or longer targeting period for steady targeting

[@LowkoTV]

@@timgarnett1427 something like… Basic attack speed reduction to make it more in line with other spellcasters. Emp strength reduction vs Shields. Something like a snipe range nerf. All small adjustments.

[@gerkahn8179]

Next patch: ghosts now have stim increasing their auto attack damage from 10 (+10 vs light) to 20 (+ 20 vs light), increasing Their movement speed from 3,94 to 6,19

[@Pseudoku_RL]

I don't understand why zergs make zerglings and roaches in the late game when you could just spend all your money on brood lords or ultralisks and lose the game even quicker. Way more time efficient

[@balanceofjudgement4282]

Hah! This made me laugh. Good one, sir!

[@kokowoch]

Lowko already knew whos gonna lose, and his first thought was to cast it and post it on youtube, to add to the collection

[@GustavoThimoteo]

The problem with some sc2 machups rn is just like Lowko said in game 2, if your opponent has to make a mistake for u to get the win, so the game isn't balanced at all. Just like the disruptor, u only get value if your opponent messes up.

[@bricelory9534]

It would be one thing if Terran had ghosts but didn't also have the resilient MMM to path directly into them. Just doesn't seem like any tension in the transition, like the other races have That and even if Ghosts weren't OP, they clearly discourage a lot of build variety in both the Terran whose optimal path is Ghost, and for the opponent who has their choice of units severely affected by the mere existience of Ghosts. To me, that alone suggests they're very unhealthy for the game.

[@oshawott4544]

@@bricelory9534 I think that's it: they work great with what Terran already has, to the point the switch is trivial, while invalidating all other late game units.

[@REDRAGON12345]

Good to know you're a fan of Brandon Sanderson! I just finished the Mistborn trilogy and man was it amazing

[@nocbvideos6458]

A friend told me that I should read the first view pages of book 1 after finishing the trilogy, because apparently the foreshadowing is amazing.

[@kurt-o0o]

im excited to read the stormlight archives after MB. im only on book 2 of mistborn, halfway done. but idk if i feel like finishing it. is it good? yeah. is it a work of art? nope. it feels somewhat young adult, kinda predictable. if i read it when i was 16 i probably wouldve thought it was the best book ever written lol. does it get better? i wanna finish before reading SA

[@REDRAGON12345]

@@kurt-o0o If you finish book 2 and find it predictable, then you'd be one in a million. The final ~100 pages of book 2 is filled with so many twists, surprises, and tropes being subverted, it's wild and yet amazing. But if you finish book 2 and are not a fan, then prob not worth continuing.

[@kurt-o0o]

@@REDRAGON12345 cool thx

[@REDRAGON12345]

@@kurt-o0o Of course, friend. "Life before Death, Strength before Weakness, Journey before Destination"

[@oshawott4544]

It's honestly kinda painful watching Raynor try everything he can, and just lose. It just feels extremely lopsided. And even though I love Serral games, it's because Serral is good enough to still consistently win after multiple faction killing nerfs. That's completely different than how this series felt.

[@zaphrian]

Serral can't even win any more lol. Clem killed him so easy. Blizzard will nerf zerg more though just to punish Serral more, LOL.

[@oshawott4544]

@@zaphrian the EWC was a massive disappointment, but at least we can say it was probably because it's really cold in Finland, and it was probably at least 10-15C warmer. Watching the main stream, they even mention it's unsafe to go outside for more than 3 minutes. Finland doesn't get that warm, ever.

[@Lopsterbliss]

Lowko, I've gotta say, you are really firing on all cylinders. You're sounding super relaxed and providing a seamless blend of off-the-cuff banter and triple-depth game analysis, loving the content.

[@kanzakierika1428]

raynor going to win on lowko channel right? right?

[@JunkManuel]

The kid have much to learn, give him a little time

[@xBermellonx]

😂 ain't no way 😂 I love the inclusion of bloopers, good one

[@ryandean5941]

The elephant in the room as far as balance is the Ghost. EMP is powerful against any Protoss composition because it removes shields and ghosts single-handedly counter every zerg late-game army too. I think the easiest solution would be to move EMP from the ghost to the Raven, but what do I know?

[@superhawk6403]

Love the Stormlight archive, I think the next book is coming out this winter

[@Neurogenesis1251]

I think they need to buff ghosts and give protoss one more nerf.

[@hivetech4903]

I guess you're being sarcastic but Protoss has near perfect balance at pro level right now: PvT: 51% (1% Protoss favored) PvZ: 51% (1% Protoss favored)

[@oshawott4544]

@@hivetech4903 I think we just don't have any extremely good Protoss players. There's nobody that can compete with the top zergs or terrans. MaxPax is probably the closest, but he's likely a year or two away from truly being the greatest of all time. That, and no offline events...

[@CHIQUIZO]

amazing matches . Oliveira played amazing , thanks for the upload Lowko!!! Great casting!

[@barzillai6643]

I KNEW YOU WERE A STORMLIGHT FAN!! Every single time you said journey before destination I wondered

[@jumeu9764]

did Oliveira play well? yeah but you can't deny if the races were balanced, reynor would probably win most of the time in these games

[@kurt-o0o]

well, even if the race that has the best offense, and infinite harassment tools (and the best defense) does no damage, they should also win versus the race whos sole goal is to minimize losses and maximize drones as a means of victory. IMO.

[@Mikivericks]

Thanks for the video, Lowko. Always love a good Terran vs Zerg series! ❤

[@ledrash6079]

I think we can start experimenting with making the ghost a light unit. Or Making it not able to snipe massive troops (Ultras and BL). There are already other counters to those units. It would be nice if a terran had to choose what to make as well, and not just have one unit to kill them all.

[@BukovTervicz]

State of Zerg balance right now is pathetic

[@kurt-o0o]

well serral went to military and got washed so he could save zerg balance. now they can stop nerfing zerg because of serral. high iq serral.

[@Spartsou]

aha! an hour-long series! good thing I've got popcorn!

[@yeeyang7740]

I feel in macro games, late game Terran and late game Protoss has a lot more potential than late game Zerg

[@Thescott16]

It's really frustrating to see matches between players who are on such equal levels of skill be decided by imba

[@rados6826]

these matchups starts to be too predictable these days

[@balanceofjudgement4282]

Im sorry.. are you not enjoying Terran having a chance to lose until they transition to mass ghost-lib? (/sarcasm)

[@SkagulTV]

Ghosts might need a nerf, but it also looks like the baneling nerf stings alot aswell, maybe buff it to the middle of what it was and is now? They seem weak without fungal

[@teffsly]

Great matches from both players

[@gummywurmgaming9147]

It really feels like Zerg is constantly trying to win before its too late while terran is waiting for the win.

[@Falorik]

Ye come on just say it, Zerg lategame is bad, Terran lategame is too easy and the balancing is off point. We all know it. Part of it is that you can play a lategame terran with 5 workers apparently.

[@shadowling77777]

Mules go brrrrrrrrt

[@Kazuhiro-i]

What? Ur tone is so confusing 😂😂😂 buddy are u complaining about terran or defending it

[@Redtooth75]

​@@Kazuhiro-ireading comprehension is a skill you can learn.

[@Neurogenesis1251]

The neckbeards on reddit disagree with you.

[@amiablereaper]

Yeah the fact Terran can just look at 30 worker deaths and go "... anyway" should perhaps be addressed

[@QuentinB20]

Thank you for casting !

[@boliveto]

I love that Oliveira is a common Portuguese/Brazilian surname, that dude fooled me for a long time

[@jumeu9764]

@@boliveto YES, it's so weird seeing his name, he didn't fool me because I knew him before the name change, but when he changed I found it a awful choice. Mas só pra gente brasileiro faz sentido né, pra eles esse nome é daora

[@danc6167]

Zerg needs a late game upgrade for the roach/ravager line

[@josephbirrenkott7993]

Upgrade for ultra. Like make it take 2-3 snipes to kill one. Then they'd have a frontline to engage into ghost armies. Like make current upgraded ultra's the baseline ultra stat and with upgrades, it tanks 2-3 snipes before going down.

[@TyphoonJig]

Iron roaches : remove the bio tag and gives them +1 armor.

[@kurt-o0o]

@@josephbirrenkott7993 snipe is a spell, and spells ignore armor. that would just make it obscenely strong versus 3/3 marines. theyd do 1 damage.

[@josephbirrenkott7993]

@@kurt-o0o If it's a spell, it can be balanced as a spell - without some change that affects marine dmg output. Changing viper abduct range doesn't affect zergling dps; changing snipe doesn't...

[@MarcusJohansson-f2y]

Hey Lowko! Is Darks last name Ketchum by any chance (LOL at 26:55)

[@spencerlindeman7340]

That was masterful by Lowko. Didn’t miss a beat.

[@ExpertYouTubeCommentator]

love the pokemon song reference with Dark 😂😂😂

[@georgeboyer7299]

Lowko should recork himself reading the Stormlight archive. I'd listen to it.

[@arvinjancruz5175]

great games! great series!

[@Trubripes]

Broodlings do a heck a lot of damage when then first land. look at a PF getting hit by 5 broods and it will be gone before you can say "broodlords"

[@kurt-o0o]

yeah, in morse code maybe.

[@SulaemanSantoso]

maybe reduce ghost damage on armored like ultralisk? or have snipes on longer cd ? feels frustrating to see reynor unleashing everything just to get ghosted :D .. already know who win from the title. you should probably cast another one along with reynor himself :D

[@kavvethehomm3player454]

Lowko edging me with the intro 🥵

[@nocbvideos6458]

We're starting in the cast and lowko pulls up with a brando sando quote. Please marry me

[@abyrvalg_]

I thought about roach-corruptor as a lategame composition vs terran, but then I remembered about tanks. Maybe burrowed roaches? They have high HP, regenerate fast and quite cheap compared to ling-bane.

[@AlatusAllod]

18:25 SCV damage could be many things, but that's new

[@Shazbot277]

Olivera just need 'TIME' i'll see myself out

[@Eofthewind]

YAYY we got a Stormlight Archive reference =)

[@martinbarta7935]

Quoting Sanderson during a SC II cast is peek nerddom.

[@Kazuhiro-i]

So why the fk is ghost not nerfed again??

[@abyrvalg_]

they did nerf them, though it doesn't matter with such immobile units as broodlords

[@User-DogFather02]

**upset** the people who balance the game and map pick all play Terran.......

[@arleendo]

Just in time for my lunch again. Thank you ser Lowko

[@gerkahn8179]

So good they didn’t nerf ghosts in 4 years ! Blizzard - they need a nerf ! They should have been nerfed 4 years ago.

[@Kazuhiro-i]

Nono we need to nerf zerg, dont u see them winning too much and being unstoppable??? Oh wait I was just wathcing Serral games for rhhr past 4 years, my bad

[@copter2000]

That's crazy man. Clearly zerglings need a nerf.😊

[@roinervalencia9297]

My daily breakfast. Thanks Lowko! ❤

[@curtishsiung5979]

How about snipe being a pointed skillshot? As in while it is a targeted spell, projectile can be blocked by other units?

[@schippes24]

as someone that only watches SC2 and doenst play himself anymore: is there any zerg lategame unit that is truly stong at this point? lurker is okay until enough ghosts are out (which usually are anyway) and vipers are a spellcaster only, not like an actual fighting unit. vipers would be a ghost-like unit if it had proper range damage both air to air and air to ground.

[@Heavenfire_Dragon9561]

I knew that hellbats are absolutely phenomenal against zerg but nobody but oli seems to use them.

[@andrunouchi]

@Lowko aren't we do for a new map pool soon?

[@joshsmit4907]

That Pokemon theme remix gets a like

[@drew3n]

Whats the DPS difference between a banshee and a brood lord? With fire rate and the broodling taken into account?

[@yvindsollien2990]

Now, i dont play SC2, but i love watching Lowko casting and commentating them.... To me it sounds completely bonkers that terran has one unit that basically counters all late game. What is their counter and is it a viable play or are their hard counter unit so easy to kill by other terran units that they arent played...

[@alexandrebrochu4265]

WELCOME BA.... not yet... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@a_pleasant_lie7051]

Raynor BRINGS BACK Broodlords!!! Regrets were had

[@jacobclark3710]

EMP always seemed like it should've been a raven ability, and especially after learning BW science vessel had it. Personally i think snipe shouldnt be able to target armored bio units. Viper pull shouldnt be able to pull massive units as well imo

[@OverFjell]

STORMLIGHT ARCHIVE mentioned. Lowko becomes even more based.

[@Grendich]

if i remember correctly ive heard you say the first ideal before; nevertheless, did not expect that stormlight archive intro

[@mh1593]

amazing games here. THanks

[@tacochaos5127]

What's the thought on burrow for roach commits so they can burn cc energy while avoiding banshees and drones can hide from run bys

[@ChrisPinnell-h4p]

This game is dog shit and balanced in such a way everything is weaker ten fold and Terran lategame is superior to everyone else ; being back collosus and being back broodlords and nerf ghosts

[@SSteelux]

Lowko.. is ghost strong/ or just too sexy?

[@LowkoTV]

yes

[@kristinivanov6519]

From which zerg upgrade do Brood Lords benefit when it comes to the attack? Is it the melee or flyer attack upgrade?

[@jessegauthier6985]

The impact benefits from flyer attack, but the broodlings themselves use melee attack

[@Jimmyni-kk4em]

If u r not a serious gamers. U can watch this guy.

[@merlin_plays]

how to choose a race to main ?

[@drazw5705]

I think locust might have been the answer for Raynor in game #2 or maybe i'm wrong idk😁

[@IAcroniXI]

"WWWELCOME- ...not yet.."

[@christopherruland4790]

Ghosts are way to op against pretty much any late game zerg unit. Ultra, lurker, broodlord, casters, You name it. All I can think of is going with fungal + bane and that could get busted up quickly by mech. 🤷 I dunno

[@mho...]

Zerg got nerfed soo hard over the years, they get endgame around minute ~10 & nearly always loose to "never changed" ghosts & the constantly evolving terran army -.- how is that fair?

[@justinspriggs2979]

lol TLDR; hey ghosts win

[@lpc5444]

Stormlight 5 this winter!

[@abyrvalg_]

Never let terrans design maps ever again.

[@wanaan]

Go go Oli!

[@k4zzaa]

Did any1 by coincedence catch the name of this awesome caster?

[@boliveto]

Even tho oliveira played perfectly, Reynor didnt made many mistakes too. In a perfect draw game, Terran wins it seems

[@timothycwillis]

Man zerg really struggling out here. Ghost are eating.

[@ncsjcca2]

The unit that solo counters every zerg lategame unit/army comp/spellcaster while also countering every single toss unit is still too strong years after needing heavy nerfs? I'm shocked.

[@nahrubish]

Nah. Terran is too comfortable.

[@boadroad]

Since when broodlords got no dps? They got nurfed or something? They move slow and there is a reason for that. You leave your ground forces for a couple of sec with them and you're done. The main problem with broods is that people push them in front of an army of invisible man, who would die almost instantly if not for that snipes of theirs.

[@vincentjacob5513]

is oliviera, time.

[@akungfustudent79]

the best counter to everything - ghost. the best counter to ghost - ghost. Terran not OP though, ghost good balance... sure.

[@ItsMorgrem]

ghosts are just men with guns who can cast the spell non magic missile, thats really it

[@enochianwolf]

they can 1 shot every unit in the game, they can turn invisible, they can erase all energy from every enemy spellcaster, they can remove shields from Archons, they can get picked up in medivacs/healed by medivacs, they can A-move with the marines.

[@enochianwolf]

almost forgot, they can launch nuclear missiles too

[@markrose8440]

@@enochianwolf you lost me on medivac and tactical nuke. you want ghosts to be repaired instead? cause first of all, make that make sense, second of all, it doesnt really make that much of a difference. And i cant take anyone seriously when they consider tactical nukes a plus, "oh no, tactical nukes exist" said no one(except solar) in a million years, you are either low league, or the noggin in that little headspace o' yours, just isnt spinning those gears.

[@enochianwolf]

@@markrose8440 i simply stated their list of abilities, and you insulted me several times. stay classy

[@markrose8440]

@@enochianwolfmy whole comment was a mistake, and the insults were uncalled for, I apologize for that.

[@JunkManuel]

Watching Reynor and i'm like "wtf blizz buff zerg!" Watching Serral and i'm loke "Wtf blizz, nerf zerg!" Ther's something wrong

[@LowkoTV]

Serral is a monster

[@pablomoreira8227]

@@LowkoTV and still he s actually 0/15 against Clem ^^

[@1.-ulysses334]

Like... yeah, Serral is just... Serral.

[@miza6]

Oliver’s getting good vs Zerg playing with serral

[@henkh990]

Top Simon!

[@go0stav]

Reynor was a bit sloppy in g1. Both in defence and in the offensive play.

[@alexanderortega5573]

Someone please start hosting 12 ppl later free for all maps 😩

[@REDRAGON12345]

Why is Reynor so horrible at getting upgrades? Game 2, going over 30 mins when he had a massive bank, and mediocre upgrades at best. Sloppy Zerg play, as usual.

[@liorzaphir5358]

The moment you followed "journey before destination" with "life before death" my level of fandom doubled❤

[@amirjameioskooei1997]

Where is the cat?! 😒 where is that Tiger?

[@drtony1000]

Yea he brought it back alright, brought back collective zerg ptsd on how shit broods are.

[@LucemFerre82]

Its just not fun to watch this matchup anymore, hope we get a balance patch soon.

[@lxTxl]

Another Reynor game on LowkoTV, another Reynor loss.

[@jayyrod1]

I love me some TvZ! ENTER THE SWARM!

[@pierrenilsson6189]

Everywhere I look, the casting of Starcraft II has become Terran TV. I stopped playing during brood wars because the game was so unbalanced. Now, a lot later, I have checked maybe 50 recent games and it seems to be really unbalanced still and it has almost been 25 years since I stopped playing.

[@chunghoang106]

Broodwar, however, is heralded as the most balanced RTS game with asymmetrical balance..

[@copter2000]

You stopped playing 20 years ago? But still "checked" 50 recent games. Doubt.

[@markrose8440]

you mean heart of the swarm? broodwar is a completely different game.

[@raideltorres5926]

Defensive zerg loosing again ? Wow

[@hwdiswbog74]

They keep making the already easy to control Terran units more powerful, while the already harder to control Zerg units are made weaker. Seems unfair :/

[@markrose8440]

T units are not easy to control.

[@SD-jf7nb]

​@@markrose8440 😢

[@markrose8440]

@@SD-jf7nb whats wrong with what i said?

[@Iddy267]

ghosts need another nerf.

[@JK-zj1bq]

One thing Reynor could have done game 2 was he could have neural'd a ghost and EMP them, there was a bit where he had infestors right by a bunch of ghosts with no support or detection