RFK and Ronald Reagan: Town Meeting of the World - CBS News - May 15, 1967

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Joseph Hewes

Joseph Hewes

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@harrycrux7757
@harrycrux7757 3 жыл бұрын
Both Reagan and RFK are better than we have now!
@carterstevens506
@carterstevens506 Жыл бұрын
​@Ernie H Lol you know Dwight D. Eisenhower coined the term "military industrial complex" describing forces already in motion right?
@abelchavez2463
@abelchavez2463 Жыл бұрын
Def not lmao
@JohMartin37
@JohMartin37 Жыл бұрын
Yeah only because this was part of the first bunch that were bought in. They sold usa in the early 50s. That's why they're about to do what they do to every business that can't pay they're debt. Look at Sadam and Gaddafi n shit lol
@JohMartin37
@JohMartin37 Жыл бұрын
Nam, kraine. Potatoes tomatoes whatever tf they say
@barrywhite9114
@barrywhite9114 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5KymaGBZZaqg7s
@MistaChrista69
@MistaChrista69 Жыл бұрын
As a young person , this debate was amazing to see. Our country needs to return to a respectful democracy.
@markhall6306
@markhall6306 Жыл бұрын
RFK Jr should run instead of let's go Brandon FJB would give instant credibility
@jbenne874
@jbenne874 Жыл бұрын
We're a constitutional republic with democratic tendencies. We pledge allegiance to flag for the republic for which it stands.
@ellvtv2314
@ellvtv2314 Жыл бұрын
Trump failed coup doomed America
@foedeer
@foedeer Жыл бұрын
​@@sirsean1227democratic republic.
@joeyhunter842
@joeyhunter842 Жыл бұрын
No, staying as a constitutional republic is they way to go.
@Retroscoop
@Retroscoop Жыл бұрын
High quality debate... Can you imagine presidential candidates in the US still discussing in this way, without throwing mud at each other ?
@themaskedman221
@themaskedman221 Жыл бұрын
In a word, no.
@danielgregg2530
@danielgregg2530 Жыл бұрын
The Republicans have made that impossible.
@TuckFinn831
@TuckFinn831 Жыл бұрын
"LOCK HIM UP!" lol
@sirkayda7205
@sirkayda7205 Жыл бұрын
@@TuckFinn831 - "Her"
@TuckFinn831
@TuckFinn831 Жыл бұрын
@@sirkayda7205 which candidate identified as a woman?
@omagosh5137
@omagosh5137 Жыл бұрын
Listening to these two articulate and thoughtful men makes me sadly feel how far we have fallen. Also, listening to these young college people makes me also feel the same. A very impressive group of young people.
@blackwind743
@blackwind743 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this was before Reagan's 'they are giving them hope for peace those bastards' cowboy diplomacy and his trickle up economics destroyed civility in America.
@jbetnar
@jbetnar Жыл бұрын
True. There were idiots back then but the media didn't give them attention like now.
@annthomson5648
@annthomson5648 Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@The_Antiquary
@The_Antiquary Жыл бұрын
Some of these university types (primarily the first English woman and the belligerant (communist maybe) man) are the ones which have caused the fall.
@christopherhand4836
@christopherhand4836 Жыл бұрын
@@jbetnarno the idiots now are the voters. Too lazy to pay attention and just about party. While caring more about reality tv than policy discussion
@trumanhw
@trumanhw Жыл бұрын
Excellent; back when the media actually grilled both parties ... and people in politics actually had to be bright.
@Jeffreyscollection
@Jeffreyscollection Жыл бұрын
Wait till you find out about how Reagan treated the aids crisis
@Lilcousinbruva323
@Lilcousinbruva323 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffreyscollection Wait till you find out many people weren't committing suicide and having severe depression
@xxgmehhhejkdkkjjfctsxxsjjj5194
@xxgmehhhejkdkkjjfctsxxsjjj5194 Жыл бұрын
​@@Lilcousinbruva323 a take straight outta your ass
@DumbleDoff
@DumbleDoff Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffreyscollectionwait until you find out about Fauci testing AIDs medication on foster care infants
@lisaa4491
@lisaa4491 Жыл бұрын
back in the day when media wasnt completely manipulated by major corporations
@jimough2441
@jimough2441 Жыл бұрын
One of the great tragedies of the 20th century was the assassination of Robert Kennedy.
@makthnife
@makthnife Жыл бұрын
And great miracles was the failed assassination attempt of Ronald Reagan.
@plumberphil5321
@plumberphil5321 Жыл бұрын
We could elect his son , but he's too honest ... that won't do
@jimough2441
@jimough2441 Жыл бұрын
@@plumberphil5321 Whaf????
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr Жыл бұрын
It saved us from a forever war in Vietnam.
@MrExplorerFilms
@MrExplorerFilms Жыл бұрын
@@jimough2441 robert kennedy jr is running for presidency
@charleswinokoor6023
@charleswinokoor6023 3 жыл бұрын
This was a top notch series. And having RFK and Reagan on the same bill was brilliant. Excellent closing statement by RFK.
@carolyngordin6091
@carolyngordin6091 Жыл бұрын
SOME SPINACH EHHH JOHN INKLE'S GROUP REMEMBER SOME LAND ANNETTE NO ONE WITH NO PAPERS
@beeenn649
@beeenn649 Жыл бұрын
@@carolyngordin6091 WTF did you say?
@RaptorFromWeegee
@RaptorFromWeegee Жыл бұрын
@@beeenn649 Don't you see? Our president has entered the room.
@rashidahmed7731
@rashidahmed7731 Жыл бұрын
Ronald Reagan did way better on the closing
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr Жыл бұрын
If RFK was elected, we would still be in Vietnam. It’s like Ukraine today. My grandchildren will be fighting in that war an their children. When my friends went to Iraq, I never thought I would lose so many, either in death or life.
@zeinfadel
@zeinfadel 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this the day after the first Trump Biden debate. What a stark difference
@adrestianyx7441
@adrestianyx7441 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, really remarkable footage. Thank you to whomever saved it and uploaded it.
@tyjameson7404
@tyjameson7404 Жыл бұрын
Pure respect between Bobby and Reagan 💪🏾🇺🇸🙏❤️
@neecicoleman1690
@neecicoleman1690 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see that people are still watching this. I think we all came here because of the lack of intelligence and understanding in debates today. Both Reagan and Bobby had some valid points and ideas, and both shared complete thoughts and clarified when others had confusion. That's something we're likely never to see again.
@maryreinhardt8661
@maryreinhardt8661 3 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@Phineas1626
@Phineas1626 3 жыл бұрын
You had me until your last statement. There have been dark times throughout history. I find it extremely unlikely we’ve seen the last enlightened period in this planet’s history.
@brandonhunt8431
@brandonhunt8431 3 жыл бұрын
It is sad that debates between people who have differing positions that were once intelligent and civil as this debate between Bobby Kennedy and Ronald Reagan have degenerated to the three-ring circuses we have today.
@KeithCindyPanama
@KeithCindyPanama Жыл бұрын
Hopefully podcasters will find away to fill their shows with debates like this :)
@danielgregg2530
@danielgregg2530 Жыл бұрын
It was pretty civilized.
@marci3667
@marci3667 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear two people debate without anger! Two great men!
@paulinefarrell8652
@paulinefarrell8652 2 жыл бұрын
Great debate. So civil and we can easily draw parallels between the war in Viet Nam and the crisis with Russia and Ukraine today. Even now China remains in the picture forcing us to pose similar questions. These arguments regarding h po we should define freedom persist.
@chrisbacos
@chrisbacos Жыл бұрын
That's one thing I miss about 20th Century politics.
@Madasin_Paine
@Madasin_Paine Жыл бұрын
The word great is used by the powers-that-be to mean a most grave bipartisan screwing over of all that is natural and culturally dear. It's blatant fraud and cons is concert with impunity as high as compensation for high treason mis leaders and quislings. Foolable and rule able is the same old song and We The People only pay for this tired grave tune. What's the result? Blame the poor, homeless and OTHER victims but NOT the Bipartisan politicos ans those they empower and protect. Sick sick sick state of mind, like the mind of the state.
@adimart2214
@adimart2214 Жыл бұрын
there would be no anger if not for trump, Biden knows how to debate civilly if not for trump angrily interrupting every time.
@thepeanutpresident1920
@thepeanutpresident1920 10 ай бұрын
One great man!*
@MrResearcher122
@MrResearcher122 Жыл бұрын
Both sound like they meditate. Calm, cool, collected. A time when Irish-American politicians like Reagan and Kennedy could speak English with an undertstated eloquence.
@ironsideeve2955
@ironsideeve2955 Жыл бұрын
Cuz PCs and iPhones didnt exist
@SquareNoggin
@SquareNoggin Жыл бұрын
I don't know if it was "meditation" so much as it was prayer.
@MrResearcher122
@MrResearcher122 Жыл бұрын
@@SquareNoggin Meditating on a wise response is a kind of prayer. A certain truth-consciousness seems present, one which, naturally, seems absent in the young students. Modern politics has inherited the dualistic thinking of the 60s student, without having it tempered by the caution earned from mature reflection.
@matthewstavrowsky2393
@matthewstavrowsky2393 Жыл бұрын
True leaders
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr Жыл бұрын
If RFK was elected, we would still be in Vietnam.
@Anna.Lippert
@Anna.Lippert Жыл бұрын
The freedom, relevance and civility of this exchange is, overall, a breath of fresh air. The parallel between the geopolitical context then and now is striking. Yet somewhere along the line, we haven't advanced a single 'iota', but rather absurdly regressed. The regret that RFK did not govern is very real. Thank you for sharing these moments of history!
@jonathanse8977
@jonathanse8977 Жыл бұрын
The major decline started with Nixon & then Reagan was the nail in the coffin.... Then came the Bush & Clinton yrs to carry out the final blow...
@raykirkham5357
@raykirkham5357 Жыл бұрын
We have learned nothing since or from this "debate" between politicians who "respected" each other but figured that Vietnam was just something to debate. It was a raging war that killed over 2 million people...people who needed assistance, not war.
@jonathanse8977
@jonathanse8977 Жыл бұрын
@@raykirkham5357 Then Bush and his Cronies made up a lie to kill Iraqi & Afghan civilians in order to boost Oil company profits. Just look at how much Dick Cheney made off dead brown children. Now Putin is using the same playbook while the US wags it's finger like some moral entity (which it is not).
@GodIsADelusion
@GodIsADelusion Жыл бұрын
You say "that RFK did not govern" as if he wasn'tmurdered in aa rightwing plot to make sure this country continued to fall toward fascism while your generation did nothing. Thanks for destroying democracy.
@kingdomfreedom8323
@kingdomfreedom8323 Жыл бұрын
​@@raykirkham5357This was a debate, I believe for elective purposes, they were either active candidates at the time or thinking soon to announce such plans. It's not a random event without purpose, reason being the American people needed to decide who could best lead thru this difficult conflict. So their views aired gives clarity. Now as to the legitimacy of the war, like many things in a fallen world where the best of purposes are led astray, an abstraction of corrosion takes place. Powerful forces come in rather find a way to affect policy in their favor. Influence enters the open theatre of war having discreetly kept cover until an opportunity to exploit comes into play. Governments which are representative in nature, undertake Liberty with the best of intentions, then are hijacked by global mercenary projects thru International groups of enormous affluence. Now America, as a whole nation of individualistic thought paradigms, was acting to defend a nation (SV) from another nation( NV infiltrators). Who at inset in all appearances was equal, yet the capacity between the two was altered drastically & no longer a near equal in proportion. North Vietnam was being propped militarily, who's backer at that time was the Soviet Union. Russia equipped North Vietnam..those armies marched well supplied with the latest arm-age..aligned with rebel, Communist forces inside of SV. These war- mongers promise leadership roles for great feats performed in the aftermath of victory in the new regime to spur the rebellion onwards. South Vietnam in a traditional sense government did not agree with communism. Communism is just another word for monarchy/ imperial rule & is trading one dictatorship for another, as history has vividly shown us running blood red with conquest That the Communistic powerful core group is a hierarchy of structure & jealously guards it's own power thereafter once it takes control, allows for no competition, no dissidents from the throne like any form of tyranny does. It must be worshipped, as a replacement god divining power a deity that sanctions all forms unconscionable. Worships thru religious rites it calls policies & ceases to serve The People it was meant to do & begins & ends in serving itself.Everything is done to preserve it's hierarchial stronghold of power...it's massive chokehold upon the populace. Of all the fallen governments in gravity of suffering Humanity bestowed Communism is especially guilty of horrific hypocrisy Why?, because it shouts the loudest 'equality' while meaning the opposite of overall servitude It's temple gates are locked from the inside except the chosen few & main premise against it's adversaries, say Democracy for instance it's sworn foe. It's repetitious accusations of oppression & thwarting of independence, by the collective. It's own hideous apparition are conveniently projected on others, accusatory all else own crimes of totalitarianism. Talks a good game, walks out as entirely something else. It's a sad history how many people have needed assistance & there were those who thought to assist, yet somehow the meant just endeavors were mistaken. Pity the innocent thruout time made victim of silly human pride. May it be they find peace in the arms of Eternity. Note; The US has unfortunately been infiltrated by powerful & ancient forces in Europe, imperial royalist that have been long entrenched in suppression of species. The masses have long endured forced oppression from this brutal taskmaster(s) & were directing America's Destiny for profit for themselves. Profiteering likely the delays & other obstacles in forming peace talks. It was likely that even important political persons had not realized to what extent these foreign forces were exerting a direction for the US military to follow. The military industrial complex was engaging America in the endless wars.
@technologic21
@technologic21 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic talk. Discussing the issues, taking questions, we don't get this anymore.
@arcanondrum6543
@arcanondrum6543 Жыл бұрын
The League of Women Voters used to host debates, tney were independent and their debate panel of Reporters represented Voter interests much better than now. The questions weren't about "feelings", they were about policy and about the politician's past record. Reagan is on Film criticizing the League of Women Voters when (as President of the Screen Actor's Guild - a Union) Reagan was testifying during the HUAC Hearings. Now debates are hosted by a tepid panel that doesn't ask too many hard questions. Also, corporate media became consolidated, first by Reagan's Executive Branch, then by the Republican Telecommunications Act (they controlled both Houses of the Legislature so idiot Clinton should have Vetoed it and made THEM own all of it). Due to the consolidation, 90% of Americans get at least some of their news from one or more of just 6 corporations. Reporters are now; the corporate friendly kind and ask corporate friendly questions. Now, if Voters who want MAGA would take time to understand why they have trouble getting ahead and who did that to them, they would choose based on facts instead of image.
@kalburgy2114
@kalburgy2114 Жыл бұрын
@arcanondrum6543. It isn't that we support the Republican Party. It's that it is the only path open to us to oppose the disastrous policies of the Democratic Party which have caused many of the problems you blame Republicans for.
@arcanondrum6543
@arcanondrum6543 Жыл бұрын
@@kalburgy2114 How'z all those Republican (Reagan, Dubya, Trump) Tax Cuts for Corporations and Billionaires working out for ya? How'zat BLOCK the Republicans keep putting on a Minimum Wage since July, 2009 working out for your Taxes supporting Walmart's FULL TIME employees working out for ya? Did'ja wish you didn't pay for the Food Stamps they need to survive? Did'ja wish that Walmart or even Walton's Grandkids chipped in a little? How about that "Better Healthcare plan" that Trump NEVER told anyone one word about the details? How'zat promised investigation of Nancy Pelosi going? "So evil" but not one word about investigating her yet Republicans haven't hesitated to file articles of Impeachment that their own majority won't approve, investigate every government institution EXCEPT themselves, and get almost NOTHING done in the House of Representatives EXCEPT for "investigations" ...how'z all that goin? I could go on and on. YOU weren't specific however...
@thegroovypatriot
@thegroovypatriot Жыл бұрын
"America will jealously guard this right of dissent, because I think the greatness of our country has been based on our thinking that everyone has a right, even to be wrong". ~ Ronald Reagan
@edenartgardenamusementmuse7253
@edenartgardenamusementmuse7253 Жыл бұрын
And then he goes and launches the Contras and overthrows half a dozen Democratically elected governments in South America. What a hypocrite.
@markbeaudry4636
@markbeaudry4636 Жыл бұрын
I think history clearly showed who was wrong about Vietnam
@kevskove
@kevskove 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the upload. truly a masterclass of civility and discussion
@maxdream2178
@maxdream2178 Жыл бұрын
Incredible Statesmen.. must watch. This is really fascinating. Both men had such poise.
@risingbull84
@risingbull84 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to politics in the United States? What we see here in this video is what is sorely absent from the political figures and arena of today, as well as the type of format being utilized. Look at these two great leaders--Robert Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. They're of opposite parties. And yet they have evident respect and consideration for one another. Both thoughtfully outline their viewpoints in regard to the significant challenges of the day. You don't see either of them attacking the other. You don't see Kennedy telling Reagan to "shut up, man!" or Reagan taking cheap shots at Kennedy's infidelities. Both are adults. You actually get the impression that, although they have some differences, they're on the same side. Who'd of thought that? Contrast them to the jokers of today, how they are presented by the media, and how they conduct themselves! What happened America?
@WestIndianAK
@WestIndianAK 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby Kennedy had no infidelities, at least as far as we’re aware. You’re thinking of his big brother 😏
@risingbull84
@risingbull84 3 жыл бұрын
@@WestIndianAK There are rumors that Bobby had had an affair with Marilyn Monroe (yes, I know his brother did too) and possibly other women. You're right in that none of these have been entirely confirmed though.
@briane173
@briane173 2 жыл бұрын
You get what you vote for. Virtuous leaders can only be elected by virtuous voters, as they are our _representatives;_ We the electorate own this. We've eschewed class for crass, and because of our lack of civics education the past 50 years, we collectively have failed to understand how our system of government is supposed to work. We're supposed to promote citizenship and focus on shared values as Americans; instead we're hunkered down in our respective echo chambers and treating the other party like mortal enemies instead of countrymen. We're taking our marching orders from the dominant media and parroting it on _social_ media, sometimes in the most vile terms. If we're all gonna act like Philadelphia Eagles fans we should expect we're gonna get the same from the people we elect -- and they'll be just as ignorant.
@Bitchslapper316
@Bitchslapper316 Жыл бұрын
@@briane173 Yeah except you don't really. You are given two choices between two people pushed to that position by rich corporations.
@KeithCindyPanama
@KeithCindyPanama Жыл бұрын
This shows how far people have fallen from civility
@hiramabiff885
@hiramabiff885 Жыл бұрын
This is when broadcast journalism had ethics and simply reported the facts.
@lisaa4491
@lisaa4491 Жыл бұрын
when journalism wasnt manipulated by major corporations
@kennyegor7503
@kennyegor7503 Жыл бұрын
@@lisaa4491 CBS wasn't a major corporation? Not much has changed since this debate. The ruling elite framed the narrative then just as they do now. The rhetoric that Reagan and RFK were using about the war in Vietnam is the same rhetoric being used today about the war in Ukraine.
@lukerichardson2404
@lukerichardson2404 Жыл бұрын
Fairness doctrine. Funnily enough, Reagan abolished it
@lloydgreen4242
@lloydgreen4242 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou. I wish we had discussions like this today among our elected officials.
@cognitiveimpact5929
@cognitiveimpact5929 Жыл бұрын
That level of decorum and maturity has long since vanished from our political discourse. Very sad.
@chadsimmons4496
@chadsimmons4496 Жыл бұрын
Reagan killed this type of political media. Clinton sealed the coffin.
@markhathaway9456
@markhathaway9456 Жыл бұрын
@@cognitiveimpact5929 Do I have to remind you of Obama or Biden? The Dems aren't mudslingers.
@kalburgy2114
@kalburgy2114 Жыл бұрын
@markhathaway9456. The Dems don't have to sling mud. They have the corporate media on their side to sling mud for them.
@abrahamhimself
@abrahamhimself 4 жыл бұрын
Back when you can take debates and politicians seriously.
@January.
@January. 2 жыл бұрын
*could take
@Cyberphunkisms
@Cyberphunkisms Жыл бұрын
dude are you insane? he sold american democracy to iranian terrorists.
@meanwhilepalmer7993
@meanwhilepalmer7993 Жыл бұрын
You are still asleep until you realize there is no difference between these politicians and our current ones. It is YOU who have changed, we as Americans have changed. We are no longer wealthy and happy enough to ignore the rampant corruption and finance scams that have been in place since the end of WWII at the latest. Now we are weak, penniless, and afraid, finally realizing the stench of the system we exist inside as if it had just become so, and we are angry about it, looking to the old fake gods of politics (the two parties, liberal/conservative, etc), to explain our real material discontent. Our politicians are only doing what they've always done, superficially reflecting our own mental state in an attempt to get re elected.
@juliewhitead5257
@juliewhitead5257 2 жыл бұрын
Robert Kennedy would of made a great president x
@January.
@January. 2 жыл бұрын
*would have
@teetoo3790
@teetoo3790 Жыл бұрын
2 very intelligent men. Wish we had leaders like this today.
@SavageAudits
@SavageAudits Жыл бұрын
The CIA was in control of our government then as it is now.
@krwd
@krwd Жыл бұрын
Amen to that buddy it's pathetic today you got news media that couldn't get the time of day right
@DJWESG1
@DJWESG1 Жыл бұрын
You do 😂😂 plenty of tory shills everywhere
@Aircalibur
@Aircalibur Жыл бұрын
Intelligent students as well. Boomers. Arguably the most privileged generation to have ever existed in American history, children of the silent generation which perhaps wasn't so silent after all, having created rock and roll and led the civil rights movement and the 60s counterculture from the front. The two intelligent, and they were indeed intelligent, men you speak of were members of the greatest generation. They raised the parents of the students who are grilling them, those progressives. This all makes me shed a tear for how little intelligence seems to matter. Philosophies unfold in such a way that only the most intelligent people can predict the half of it. Technologies come out of nowhere and sucker punch us, leaving us scrambling for a response which will inevitably be inadequate. Agencies operate clandestinely, either explicitly or because the mob doesn't care enough to monitor. Time just has a will of its own.
@krwd
@krwd Жыл бұрын
@@Aircalibur Yes i pray it ends well If we could just go back to teaching kids the fundamentals and how to think critically about things logic and emotion often clash
@stevefrake8922
@stevefrake8922 2 жыл бұрын
Senator Kennedy and Governor Reagan were more in agreement with each other than either were with that British elitist.
@unclejj13er75
@unclejj13er75 Жыл бұрын
It seems the British Communist Party was well represented here....
@edmundcharles5278
@edmundcharles5278 Жыл бұрын
Yes and I liked the way RFK turned the question back on that panelist I’m saying that North Vietnam never had true elections!
@Spectrescup
@Spectrescup Жыл бұрын
​@@unclejj13er75 Communist *and* elitist. What a guy.
@fancypants2007
@fancypants2007 Жыл бұрын
Back when a moderator did not take sides.
@briandd27
@briandd27 3 жыл бұрын
I love Robert Kennedy. The man had such class. Too bad he isn't around today. That goes for John Kennedy too.
@capecodder04
@capecodder04 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that he was most likely sleeping and having an affair with Marilyn Monroe and at least knew who killed her if not orchestrated the killing. As far as politicians go, Ronald Reagan is worth mentioning more than RFK.
@franknberry6397
@franknberry6397 3 жыл бұрын
@@capecodder04 Proof?
@ZorbaAlarga
@ZorbaAlarga Жыл бұрын
But he is. Bobby jr.
@LopezAlabama
@LopezAlabama Жыл бұрын
RFK Jr. 2024!
@bravocharlie639
@bravocharlie639 Жыл бұрын
"Everyone liked Bobby" is a direct quote from a friend's father who was a Pilot for PBA which served Boston and the Cape with Scheduled, Charter, etc. flights. He was backed up by several others who said the same but I know for a fact that the Pilot had met Bobby several times. Reagan, I remember well and he was an insincere person made worse by a evil wife. Reagan's Presidency was prior to Social Media. Reagan had nothing to do with making it happen either. A Reagan Presidency during Social Media would have gotten the word out about him. He's a vile person and politics was only a well prepared role for him.
@jacobhenderson1763
@jacobhenderson1763 4 жыл бұрын
makes me want a pall mall, the 7 minute cigarette
@rebradroot
@rebradroot 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they’re pronounced “pell mell”…I always thought they were pronounced as spelled: “paul maul.”
@kalebstuckey570
@kalebstuckey570 2 жыл бұрын
“Pell mell”
@Mr.Marketing
@Mr.Marketing Жыл бұрын
“Pell Mell” Pales in comparison to our new 1986 American Spirits under The Reagan admin! Forget Vietnam and switch to a Mujaheddin Civil War with a 9 min smoke of American Spirits! (Now with a 3 dollar price increase, cancer may apply, no batteries included.)
@m42037
@m42037 Жыл бұрын
@@rebradroot No you can pronounce them either way, my dad said Pall mall not Paul Maul
@maryreinhardt8661
@maryreinhardt8661 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating conversation between two political greats of the middle 20th century! Thank you Joseph Hewes for posting this!
@jean6872
@jean6872 Жыл бұрын
*_How can such a political great as Ronald Reagan say at _**_2:31_**_ with a straight face that the United States "has a long history of non-aggression"! Such staggering ignorance from such a well-read mind. He must have seen many Hollywood movies about fighting each other in the civil war, the slaughtering of Indians, and the real estate grab from Mexico, followed by toppling democratically-elected Latin-American governments and the support of military juntas against indigenous people who wanted their own land and water rights to feed their families being labeled communists. A great man like this could sell arms for hostages and supply Central American death squads because they were the moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers._*
@deboraholsen2504
@deboraholsen2504 Жыл бұрын
It’s a few years past middle of the century.
@Je-Lia
@Je-Lia Жыл бұрын
Wow, a great peek into the past, to hear words spoken by these men back then. Thanks for posting this! I tend to agree more with Senator Kennedy's viewpoints, but it's clear that Reagan is a natural orator. I believe he had aspirations for the presidency here in this conversation.
@danielgregg2530
@danielgregg2530 Жыл бұрын
No kidding ?
@Research0digo
@Research0digo Жыл бұрын
LOL Reagan (they both were) was running for POTUS. One ran on Wall Street's behalf, the other the military & big business. The difference being back then Wall Street wasn't the monster it became, and, RFK had no reason to lie about anything. Reagan on the other hand...
@jaminova_1969
@jaminova_1969 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant debate! Thank You for posting this televised historic moment in time!
@Madasin_Paine
@Madasin_Paine Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, as in baffling with BS by their best actors, maybe. This video ages poorly and the slop served today is simply more blatant screenwriting and even more outwardly craven. Inwardly their barbarism and mendacity is without peer. Even the panel of questions and guests is severely stacked and uneven. Most attendance merely window dressing. Look at the crap advertised. That's the real customer and THEY sell the public out, literally, to death, intoxication, totalitarian leanings and BS, top down. And yet this SHOW is held up as a standard of decency and quality! As fake as the beauty shakes and cigarettes THEY sell a dumb downed domesticated ignorant complicit ant like public.
@jskrelz
@jskrelz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this, All of America should watch this, probably will prevent another Civil War.. Two great minds who have different paths however have the same destination.
@JET7C0
@JET7C0 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how much this conversation is so similar to debates decades later about our involvement in Iraq, and the ripple effects across the region into countries like Syria, Libya, etc.
@nickosc88
@nickosc88 4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly right we’ll said The same punch lines and reasonings are given on the respective sides Study history and nothing that happens today will surprise you !!
@michaelbee2165
@michaelbee2165 2 жыл бұрын
It's really not so similar to today. Sen. Kennedy and Gov. Reagan engaged in a very respectful debate. On some points they agreed to agree. On others they agreed to disagree.
@JET7C0
@JET7C0 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbee2165 Very true in terms of the way the politicians in the room acted here: RFK and Reagan - I just meant the debate about US military involvement overseas, but yes, in terms of the major political figures involved: we're in a very different place now with civil discourse and it's definitely not a good thing. Everyone should be alarmed by that fact, but history repeats itself in a yet another way, in that case, I'm afraid.
@January.
@January. 2 жыл бұрын
This country and its voters repeat the same mistakes from generation to generation
@handsome-brute2666
@handsome-brute2666 2 жыл бұрын
It's a cycle..it just goes around and around
@harrydrury4734
@harrydrury4734 Жыл бұрын
WOW !.... BACK WHEN CBS HAD REAL JOURNALISM AND RESPECT .
@jasonponto1032
@jasonponto1032 Жыл бұрын
Back when humans weren't all trash like today.
@MisterMcKinney
@MisterMcKinney Жыл бұрын
Before they realized there’s profit to be had.
@bartstarr100
@bartstarr100 Жыл бұрын
Before Faux News and their BS propaganda
@jhouse770
@jhouse770 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. Thoughtful answers without political spin, which is all we get from every politician now. RFK was more to the center than we are lead to believe, and Reagan is as well.
@michaelmapes4119
@michaelmapes4119 Жыл бұрын
Actually RFK authorized the Bugging of MLKjr's phone and was actually proud that he worked for Joe McCarthy in the 50's!
@ivanvarela4741
@ivanvarela4741 3 жыл бұрын
The difference in final remarks from Bobby and Reagan are eye opening. Bobby was truly one of a kind.
@johnnyhammer
@johnnyhammer 2 жыл бұрын
They were both brilliant.
@January.
@January. 2 жыл бұрын
@Ivan: Agree
@madalenasimoes8066
@madalenasimoes8066 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Reagan was a pawn.
@handsome-brute2666
@handsome-brute2666 2 жыл бұрын
@@madalenasimoes8066 Reagan was a GOP JFK😒
@Texasjim2007
@Texasjim2007 Жыл бұрын
@@madalenasimoes8066 "Yes, I've made mistakes. I used to be a Democrat."- Reagan at a White House Press Conference. :)
@EJK2099
@EJK2099 4 жыл бұрын
Wow.....can't believe they did a web conference like meeting in 1967
@gaminglegend
@gaminglegend 3 жыл бұрын
Zoom
@lukebailey6887
@lukebailey6887 Жыл бұрын
It feels like a Zoom meeting from 1967, pretty cool.
@davisworth5114
@davisworth5114 Жыл бұрын
and we had killer stereos.
@blucheer8743
@blucheer8743 Жыл бұрын
I stumbled on to this a few years ago fascinating look into the window of yesterday!!
@almo3250
@almo3250 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe that guy was allowed to ask those questions. You would never see this now.
@sheilamacdougal4874
@sheilamacdougal4874 Жыл бұрын
What guy?
@margeryfranko1850
@margeryfranko1850 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Joseph Hewes. I wasn’t born until 1969 and I find these amazing gems, from our recent history, so very important. Both gentlemen, Reagan and RFK speak with a good degree of awareness and honesty. Even when they disagree, they do so with a sense of calm. I appreciate this airing, very much. Some great questions from the youth of the day.
@richardbaroff4911
@richardbaroff4911 4 жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating piece of history featuring two figures who really made a difference to the course of events-President Reagan more so of course. The impromptu closing statements of Sen. Kennedy and Gov. Reagan were my favorite parts due to their thoughtful and eloquent quality.
@aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337
@aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I have to agree with u, here we have 2 great men in History duking it out with University Students on a complicated[ish] political topic that too in color, both of them conduct themselves in a rather polite and intellectual manner that we sadly rarely see today, hats of to the person who uploaded this complete version.
@newbootgoofin24
@newbootgoofin24 2 жыл бұрын
Reagan destroyed the middle class. RFK would have prevented Reagan from ever winning the White House but Democrats went downhill after his assassination.
@Texasjim2007
@Texasjim2007 Жыл бұрын
​@@aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337 The students on the other hand all come across as rigidly indoctrinated and rude by comparison. That may go a long way toward explaining why political discourse today is not as intellectual or polite I would think.
@debbiewinterrowd203
@debbiewinterrowd203 Жыл бұрын
@@Texasjim2007 The older I get, the more dogmatic and inflexible and self-righteous the 20-something’s sound to me. It’s just life. Life Experience changes everyone, for good and bad both
@Texasjim2007
@Texasjim2007 Жыл бұрын
​@@debbiewinterrowd203 Experience teaches us to distrust simplistic theoretical assumptions no matter how logical they may seem to us because there are always unforeseen variables that can change the outcome from what we expect. In a high school science class we did an experiment once where we dropped a piece of metal into some water. Unlike everybody else my piece of metal dissolved which theoretically shouldn't happen. Evidently for some unknown reason my bottle of water was mislabeled and was actually a very powerful acid. It's always a smart idea to have contingency plans for Murphy's Law. :)
@davymike761
@davymike761 Жыл бұрын
What incredible dignity, respect and decency between to men! They are both turning in their grave at the crap we have today!
@LicardoDeBousee
@LicardoDeBousee 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if these two ran against one another for the presidency… that would’ve arguably given us the greatest sets of presidential debates in American history. This country has fallen so far in recent years in its intellectual capacity and ambition to just hear two people screaming at each other and exchanging insults, instead of two intelligent debaters using reason, logic and nuance to explain their positions on the issues and the strength of their arguments overall. My how far we have fallen…
@edmundcharles5278
@edmundcharles5278 Жыл бұрын
….the moderator allows the speaker to have their say instead of trying to manipulate the answer and imposing a time response limit on an articulate answer!
@PowerHouseWash
@PowerHouseWash Жыл бұрын
@@edmundcharles5278 But now moderators inject themselves into the debate, and have clearly chosen a side.
@light279
@light279 Жыл бұрын
Fallen because YOU ( U S A ) citizens are the ones who elected Trump; so no one is to blame but yourselves.
@CaptainSpalding72
@CaptainSpalding72 Жыл бұрын
Well, it would have likely been RFK and Nixon. That, too, would have been a show stopper.
@CaptainSpalding72
@CaptainSpalding72 Жыл бұрын
​@PowerHouseWash The Trump townhall recently on CNN. That host was disgustingly bias.
@markmcg293
@markmcg293 2 жыл бұрын
35:26 A young Bill Bradley... he was a Rhodes Scholar in the UK while participating in this program.
@nickosc88
@nickosc88 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting the full show !!!!
@PresidentofPop
@PresidentofPop Жыл бұрын
I feel, sincerely and literally, as if I've just woken up from living in Idiocracy. This debate doesn't seem to have been from another time, but another dimension (where thoughts were things that could be explained, and could change minds.)
@idid138
@idid138 Жыл бұрын
When people listened, as much as they spoke.
@MichelMawon4982
@MichelMawon4982 2 жыл бұрын
I find Reagan measured, articulate and charming here. This was great and I wonder why we no longer do this, it was impressive technologically for the time. The 60s were a time of great flux and intelligent dialog. The commercials on this program are a riot.
@ralphshelley9586
@ralphshelley9586 Жыл бұрын
Of course libs thought him an idiot. Just like all their political opponents.
@MichelMawon4982
@MichelMawon4982 Жыл бұрын
@ralph shelley the disagreeable nature of political opponents didn't exist then and my comment decidedly doesn't mention politics, please leave the corners where we can never come together because we disagree somewhere else.
@ralphshelley9586
@ralphshelley9586 Жыл бұрын
Where is that British dogooder college boy now? The guy is a snook! Hey smart guy! Why were the NV fighting the Chinese on their northern border after Paris Peace Accord duplicity?
@briananderson8428
@briananderson8428 Жыл бұрын
Part of being a psychopath (Reagan) is being charming. That's how they go undetected, to some degree.
@Madasin_Paine
@Madasin_Paine Жыл бұрын
He is a practice comment for the M C A mob, for General Eectric cigarette companies and his handlers. The dirt on he, his wife and his mis ule a Governor and POTUS is abundant and damnable. As phony as Just Say No is as is that regimes efforts to curtail it. They protect child abusers and people experimenting on humans. Any test of either families morality and crime ties easily shows the mass con and grave results. The US is held in lowest regards TODAY, nationally and globally because of power parties and families addicted to graft and pirating privatization extraction slavery extinction rackets, just like these and worse. Opium, W M D, bankruptcies and beyond! It's mobbed up to the hilt and THEY charm like IV League wannabees and B List Hollywood schlock salesmen.
@jenniferroland350
@jenniferroland350 Жыл бұрын
Both of these men, always seem to me, had great integrity and morals. This video is such a treasure and profound example of what politics should be, respectful and kindly showing different viewpoints.
@terminator6552
@terminator6552 4 жыл бұрын
Back in 1967: Everyone acting mature, agreeing with each other but their own opinions In 2020: Everyone acts like 6 year olds, not wanting for anyone to bring their own opinions
@pecny
@pecny 2 жыл бұрын
And why is that, do you wonder?
@Ian64
@Ian64 2 жыл бұрын
@@pecny Republicans.
@romanboxing3959
@romanboxing3959 Жыл бұрын
@@pecny Socialist Democrats. Just look at the character or lack thereof from the idiots asking questions
@rimfire8217
@rimfire8217 Жыл бұрын
I think that has something to do with the Internet. The Media, the power to address a million people is so commonplace. We take it for granite.
@nicolamcostello
@nicolamcostello Жыл бұрын
Because we still had a common national morality in the 1960's.
@cliffordnewell2445
@cliffordnewell2445 3 жыл бұрын
Two men of substance. Unlike the schmucks we have today.
@RobbySuits
@RobbySuits 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. The schmucks leading things today were the students in this video lol.
@DukeOfMesa
@DukeOfMesa Жыл бұрын
Plus taking question from a panel of international representatives. Both Regan and RFK have well thought answers: its hard to watch and compare to today.
@steffanhoffmann
@steffanhoffmann Жыл бұрын
🇬🇧 loved both. Take my word for it. UK has nonsensical politicians since Thatcher. With the exception of Tony Blair, despite the flak I'll get; for making that comment 😉 Best wishes 🇬🇧🤝🇺🇸
@Morotr75
@Morotr75 Жыл бұрын
They got where they were because of the wise decisions of the voters of the day. In our democracy the schmucks of today are our fault only.
@MrM0saic
@MrM0saic Жыл бұрын
@@afinn5555 dark thoughts by wombatty
@wolfjedisamuel
@wolfjedisamuel 4 жыл бұрын
The first 22 minutes of this made me feel like it was the American Revolution again.
@67Stu
@67Stu Жыл бұрын
This is what the world needs now: proper civil discourse.
@jpotter2086
@jpotter2086 Жыл бұрын
And cigarette ads :D
@9and7
@9and7 Жыл бұрын
@@jpotter2086 LOL!!!!
@Josh_H00
@Josh_H00 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this, two men who disagreed in marginal and drastic ways but never made it personal and maybe my favorite part, the moderator was completely unbiased and you couldn’t tell what his party affiliation was.
@joey3301
@joey3301 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing program. Two intellectual and articulate people, representing opposing views, on tv. Live and for the world to see. No crowd yelling or cheap talking points. Lord we need that again.
@FloridaCeltic34
@FloridaCeltic34 Жыл бұрын
The fact that a British man was talking about the problems that America caused in the world is the pure definition of irony 😂
@markhathaway9456
@markhathaway9456 Жыл бұрын
Ha. I hadn't even thought of that.
@93Enthusiast
@93Enthusiast Жыл бұрын
Crown-polishers don’t know dignity from a spotted dick
@bravocharlie639
@bravocharlie639 Жыл бұрын
One superpower replaced another after WW2.... Of course, we name them "Territories" because the Revolutionary War gave "Colonies" a bad name...
@ryan-tc3rk
@ryan-tc3rk Жыл бұрын
The world was perfect before we handed it over now look what the yanks have done to it!
@checkerslane
@checkerslane 3 жыл бұрын
Reagan looks the same here in 1967as he looked in 1980's when he was president
@gaminglegend
@gaminglegend 3 жыл бұрын
His hair is the same but his face looks younger here
@Hofnerrazor
@Hofnerrazor 3 жыл бұрын
Reagan actually speaks very well.maybe this point in his life was probably more appropriate for him to be President. When he became president he wasn't as fluent and as sharp as he is here. Kennedy was just a big loss, I think he believes in a more radical policies than he is letting on here. he seems to be holding back in this discussion.
@January.
@January. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hofnerrazor *in more radical policies
@vaniapinto8214
@vaniapinto8214 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaminglegend fr looks healthy af
@WhatsCookingTime
@WhatsCookingTime Жыл бұрын
@@Hofnerrazor you haven't seen enough of Reagan talking
@adamredfield
@adamredfield Жыл бұрын
The kid who starts talking at 35:44 is Bill Bradley, later an NBA star, U.S. Senator from New Jersey, and Presidential candidate in 2000
@lawrencehawkins7198
@lawrencehawkins7198 Жыл бұрын
I shouted across the room when I watched this and saw Bradley!
@C.S.T
@C.S.T Жыл бұрын
thanks si much for posting this
@mrbrianmccarthy
@mrbrianmccarthy Жыл бұрын
i respect both of these guys, but I was shocked at how well reagan spoke and how clearly he enunciated his vision. sRFK was also a great statesman. Notice the civility in tone here, the respect shown by each man towards the other. So sad how political discourse has devolved into a shouting fest in recent years.
@lstuart2704
@lstuart2704 Жыл бұрын
We the people get the government we deserve. Unfortunately, our countrymen have regressed in these same qualities that are so apparent and admirable in these two men
@WhatsCookingTime
@WhatsCookingTime Жыл бұрын
​@@lstuart2704we still have thoughtful people who want to run the machine shuts them down. Bobby's sons treatment right now is a perfect example
@spencermoore2468
@spencermoore2468 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that is Anna Ford asking Robert Kennedy a question 4 minutes in. She became a very well known news reader first working for Granada television, then moving to the BBC in the late 70's . She retired from television 2006 to become one of the directors of Sainsbury's supermarket chain.
@Phineas1626
@Phineas1626 3 жыл бұрын
What a nice tidbit-thanks!
@quitefranklysamanthatheres1018
@quitefranklysamanthatheres1018 Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating and substantive - unlike now where everyone is stupid, not well spoken and disrespectful- listen to how they argue and debate so full throated and even if I disagree or they disagree they maintain decorum and it remains heady and significant but respectful. I wish we could have this type of journalism now.
@SaintPatrick1970
@SaintPatrick1970 Жыл бұрын
We are doomed!
@jacquelineadams4872
@jacquelineadams4872 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@BrentWilkins7777
@BrentWilkins7777 4 жыл бұрын
It is really interesting to see that during that particular broadcast, the BBC was still at that time broadcasting in black and white, while CBS was already broadcasting in color.
@OolTube02
@OolTube02 3 жыл бұрын
How'd they manage the different TV systems and the different line and frame rates?
@everett403
@everett403 3 жыл бұрын
The BBC was broadcasting in color in the 1950s as was CBS
@pdxoneway
@pdxoneway Жыл бұрын
This snippet at 54:00 from RFK should be shown all over these days.
@newtnevesyt4641
@newtnevesyt4641 4 жыл бұрын
Reagan was 56 at the time. Kennedy was just 41.
@JR-ju3kj
@JR-ju3kj 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and your point is.....? Both were smart,mature,gifted politicians.
@maryreinhardt8661
@maryreinhardt8661 3 жыл бұрын
@J R I think newt is just pointing out another interesting bit of history here.
@capecodder04
@capecodder04 3 жыл бұрын
@@JR-ju3kj Bad day?
@nonyafkinbznes1420
@nonyafkinbznes1420 2 жыл бұрын
Gracefully, Reagan refrained from exploiting, for political purposes, Kennedy's youth and inexperience.
@insanemainstream3633
@insanemainstream3633 Жыл бұрын
Those were the days when you can watch a cigarette commercial and see real men have a civil debate.
@StevieDamnit
@StevieDamnit Жыл бұрын
Go outside, nerd.
@thevoiceofcake
@thevoiceofcake Жыл бұрын
Yeah, now it’s all pill ads. So much healthier 😅
@rufuspipemos
@rufuspipemos Жыл бұрын
If RFK had not died he would have easily won in 1968. And probably again in 1972. Then Reagan in 1976 and 1980. I think America would have been better off under that scenario.
@thegroovypatriot
@thegroovypatriot Жыл бұрын
I wish we had some debates like this these days. And love the old commercials!
@bonanzatime
@bonanzatime Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think it's interesting that the majority of commercials are trying to appeal to the senses and basic human appetites aka 'lust'. A very subtle brainwashing of the sheeple, turning them into horny zombies ready to kill and die for it.
@joeyhunter842
@joeyhunter842 Жыл бұрын
We don’t have debate because schools and universities have indoctrinated youth instead of teaching them critical thinking. This is why CRT and the shaming of whites in grade school and high school is dangerous. It is moving backwards and the is no going forward if all you want to do is dwell on the past that has its share of gloom and doom.
@CarmonBenford
@CarmonBenford Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I was 11 while this was going on, so I missed it. This is amazing history and it would be refreshing to see college students these days who were perceptive and intelligent as this very diversified group of students!
@trekkiejunk
@trekkiejunk 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding RFK and Vietnam...listen to how far his opinion changed from this interview to only about 9 months later.
@Phineas1626
@Phineas1626 3 жыл бұрын
He definitely evolved.
@tyjameson7404
@tyjameson7404 Жыл бұрын
Reagan and Bobby had amazing respect for each other!!🙌🏾🇺🇸👊🏽❤️🙏💔🇺🇦
@Baseballisbest67
@Baseballisbest67 4 жыл бұрын
2 great patriots. Both very intelligent & both got grit.
@aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337
@aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, a tragedy one of them would sadly be killed a year later. . .
@BeeHatGuy
@BeeHatGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337 RIP Reagan
@mike_404
@mike_404 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeeHatGuy bruh
@neecicoleman1690
@neecicoleman1690 3 жыл бұрын
@@mike_404 I hope what he (krandle 47) said was just a joke because that's a disgrace. What freaks me out about Bobby's death is that Jack died in '63, and Bobby died 63 months after Jack...
@mike_404
@mike_404 3 жыл бұрын
@@neecicoleman1690 Woah. The Kennedy curse indeed. Now flip 63 around so you get 36. JFK Jr died 36 years after his father
@EricLehner
@EricLehner Жыл бұрын
P.S. Hello from Canada, Mr. Hewes - Thank you for bringing us your excellent channel with such astute offerings. Cheers!
@Bond.JamesBond00
@Bond.JamesBond00 Жыл бұрын
Ronald Reagan was a great actor. And that's all I have to say.
@JelaniB28
@JelaniB28 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@7ElevenAlphaCentauri
@7ElevenAlphaCentauri Жыл бұрын
I wish our politicians were still like this. We would be much better off. Both respectable and civil.
@edmundcharles5278
@edmundcharles5278 Жыл бұрын
We are that which we have made ourselves. No one else has done this to us.
@eemoogee160
@eemoogee160 Жыл бұрын
There is a presidential candidate who emulates such dignity
@7ElevenAlphaCentauri
@7ElevenAlphaCentauri Жыл бұрын
@@eemoogee160 The problem is the media. Most journalists aren’t journalists they’re political activists. All most exclusively left wing.
@BobbyRyan21
@BobbyRyan21 Жыл бұрын
@@7ElevenAlphaCentauri Righttt Because Fox News and News Max and OANN and news talk radio and Twitter are all left wing lol. Stop with the old worn out talking points this isn't about left vs right wing media it's the money that has hurt our politics and add outside gropes that are banked rolled by billionaires. Dark money has corrupted our democracy and that's thanks to the supreme court which is full of Republican puppets.
@epic6434
@epic6434 Жыл бұрын
​@@7ElevenAlphaCentauriI agree and the fact that satellite TV has taken U.S. worldwide that British guy was probably setting the bar for political ball busting 😂
@zoso73
@zoso73 Жыл бұрын
18:12. Can you imagine any politician today admitting to "mistakes in which i was involved"?
@gerardgerard5681
@gerardgerard5681 Жыл бұрын
I watched this live
@Grisostomo06
@Grisostomo06 Жыл бұрын
Governor Reagan says at the beginning of this video that if the confrontation taking place in Vietnam were a declared war that protests would not be permitted. I don't think citizens lose their right of public assembly and protest simply because a war has been declared by congress.The right to protest is in the constitution.
@elijahFree2000
@elijahFree2000 Жыл бұрын
Reagan was so wrong in the 1960s about free speech and Vietnam. His supporters like to downplay this.
@Grisostomo06
@Grisostomo06 Жыл бұрын
This is the second time I've seen Senator Kennedy debate Governor Reagan and both times he appears very weak. Robert Kennedy was a fierce anti-communist in the the 1950s and also during his time as his brother John's Attorney General. He served as council to the oafish Red baiting Senator from Wisconsin Joe McCarthy and remained a loyal supporter of McCarthy and his smear tactics to the very end of McCarthy's life in 1957. He helped plot the assassination of Cuba's Fidel Castro and he pushed for an air strike against the missile bases on the island of Cuba in 1962 which if followed could have triggered a nuclear war. He was no genius and no saint although his views on civil rights were more advanced than those of President Kennedy. His views on communism and Vietnam changed over time as he sought to advance his political career and follow in his older brother's footsteps and perhaps challenge President Johnson in 1968. The issue of communist expansion remained front and center throughout the 1960s and I suspect he would have gotten bogged down in that quagmire just as Johnson and later Nixon did.
@bravocharlie639
@bravocharlie639 Жыл бұрын
@@Grisostomo06 "communist expansion"... Tell me @Starbuck2015, how DO you feel about Nixon "opening China" and Reagan's deregulation and Tax Cuts so that corporations like General Electric could move US Jobs to China? Reagan was a spokesman for General Electric, for years, before he became President...
@markhathaway9456
@markhathaway9456 Жыл бұрын
@@Grisostomo06 There is certainly a lot about his career which was unclear and the reasons are probably not well known either. After his death it was left to the historians to dig up material and write the story. The short-term news media were naturally done with him.
@AlexUSAF
@AlexUSAF Жыл бұрын
I think he was referring to what happened in WW1, to the anti war movement (Far Left, Far Right, who knows?) which were aggressive. They even caused problems with Soldiers here State side who were conducting their work to deploy overseas. They were arrested, & the SC sided with the government because Congress declared war against Imperial Germany. If Congress declared war on North Vietnam than the underground protest movement would have faced harsher punitive measures by the US government, the same years later if Congress declared war against Al Qaeda or other Terrorists after 9-11 & some fiercely protested when the Iraq conflict got into the mix. But they did not in both cases, but still the government had some interests in preventing protests into becoming guerilla movements here at home way back then, again many years later after 9-11, & still its a touchy issue today. He was correct, at least when he pointed the issue out with his opinion. Yes people need to be free & have their rights honored, but a nation who is rightfully compelled, or wrongfully misguided believes their government has to prosecute a war with no interference at home its a fair & very grey, difficult issue.
@andrewvoros4037
@andrewvoros4037 Жыл бұрын
wow, just wow. We don't have forums like that today.
@chrishiggens9225
@chrishiggens9225 3 жыл бұрын
Its a shame that debates these days by politicians isnt of this standard. This debate is so well conducted with both politicians answering the questions, as opposed to obfuscation and lies. I was impressed how both speakers respecked each other. I havent seen anything like this in 40 + years.I think it shows just how far society has fallen, the populace mostly wouldn't watch it . They are to busy being distracted by rubbish along with no knowledge of what is going on.
@January.
@January. 2 жыл бұрын
AGREE 💯%
@edmundcharles5278
@edmundcharles5278 Жыл бұрын
It’s not actually a tic-for-tat style debate , it is a Q&A forum !
@weldin
@weldin 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I love that it’s an English kid of everyone who yells at Americans for meddling in other countries.
@DavidBrown-bp4iq
@DavidBrown-bp4iq 2 жыл бұрын
It's not irony. The guy just happened to be English.
@ralphshelley9586
@ralphshelley9586 Жыл бұрын
Just load that tea Cudge!
@Spectrescup
@Spectrescup Жыл бұрын
Are you saying he was wrong?
@donkraemer50
@donkraemer50 Жыл бұрын
​@Spectrescup considering what Britain has done? This was not much long after Britain had the CIA overthrow the government of Iran so British Petroleum could take control of the oil fields
@weldin
@weldin Жыл бұрын
​@@Spectrescup No, I just find it awkward that someone from England would criticize American foreign policy at a time where Great Britain had only just given independence to its African colonies and still held onto many of their Asian and Caribbean ones. I'm guessing he didn't approve of that colonialism, but it has a sort of irony.
@davidpeterzell789
@davidpeterzell789 3 жыл бұрын
This is remarkable in so many ways. Just phenomenal. That said, did anyone else notice that Reagan's and Kennedy's noses bend right and left, respectively? Once you see this, you can't un-see it.
@monickalynn4365
@monickalynn4365 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am now distracted by noses:-) They do bend tho
@jerrylisby3440
@jerrylisby3440 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be so nosey. 😄
@MrResearcher122
@MrResearcher122 Жыл бұрын
Potatoe sniff inherited from 🇮🇪
@michaelbread5906
@michaelbread5906 Жыл бұрын
I like how when they challenged each other, the moderator didn't interrupt and say "no you can't do that!"
@gino007able
@gino007able 3 жыл бұрын
RFK would have been a great President. I wonder what Reagon and RFK would say today on what we know now about NAM?
@MackB2023
@MackB2023 Жыл бұрын
What a great channel ! Youshould have many people watching your content. Thank you
@unitedrealtalk5087
@unitedrealtalk5087 Жыл бұрын
2 great Irish Americans. Never forget Reagans visit in 80s to ancestral home town ballyporeen. Really took Ireland by storm. Reagan is, if one could be, more popular than the Kennedys. His old school charm and gentleman demeanor made him right at home in Ireland. Most popular visit ever.
@Spectrescup
@Spectrescup Жыл бұрын
Much as I hate him, Reagan, along with Obama, was supposedly the Queen's favourite president ( and she saw a few). Her least favourite, by some distance, was (unsurprisingly) Donald Trump.
@michaelarmstrong5065
@michaelarmstrong5065 Жыл бұрын
Popular I think not.He was good buddies with Maggie Thatcher who the Irish hated
@LeRon832
@LeRon832 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to quantify the Kennedys popularity when they both got clapped in suspicious circumstances right before elections.
@HarryWebb46
@HarryWebb46 Жыл бұрын
Reagan was my favourite President. BTW please remember RR was only Irish thru his dad's lineage. His mother's side was from Surrey! 😊 Many American Presidents were 50/50 British/Irish. 😮
@HarryWebb46
@HarryWebb46 Жыл бұрын
@@donalkinsella4380 You are mistaken. I am old enough to remember one particular trip to England where he had had researchers working ahead of the trip. Reagan announced to the British news cameras that they had found his mother's lineage hailed from Surrey. Evidently they had been bakers there. They had sold their business and immigrated to the USA.
@Tom-el5cq
@Tom-el5cq Жыл бұрын
What a fascinating historical document. A model to follow for today!
@matthewthomaschapman2902
@matthewthomaschapman2902 Жыл бұрын
This was the best debate format and exchange between two politicians that I have ever seen.
@kare9875
@kare9875 Жыл бұрын
I found this Town Meeting soooooo interesting. I was struck by the obvious, how articulate Reagan and Kennedy were, the moderator not interrupting their answers, how neither Reagan or Kennedy interupted each other or attacking each other, and, how they answered the questions not skirting around and changing the subject. Two other things, maybe less obvious to others, that struck me. Depending on the month of the taping, it had only been 22 years since the end of WWII. Clearly these college students had a dislike for the USA, when the USA helped rebuild most of Europe over the past 22 years after WWII. The other thing that struck me, was, when the lady from England asked for guidance of how England could improve their race relationships. I was under the impression it was only the USA that had racism at that time. Very interesting Town Meeting and thanks for sharing it.
@vaportrails7943
@vaportrails7943 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t get to the ranting British communist media troll.
@davisworth5114
@davisworth5114 Жыл бұрын
They are angry because we are dropping napalm on rice farmers, ok?
@steffanhoffmann
@steffanhoffmann Жыл бұрын
RFK ending summary a true gent. Ronnie's reply fab. 👍 Admirable analysis; both. Best wishes 🇬🇧 🤝 🇺🇸
@dougmann777
@dougmann777 Жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating time capsule. Whatever side you take here, you have to admit that the quality of these two political leaders in terms of thoughtful debate is much higher than those in the 21st century. It also shows how TV journalism was once more objective and fair, and that college students were thoughtful and engaged. My question is simple - what happened in the the last two generations????
@davisworth5114
@davisworth5114 Жыл бұрын
US threw God under the bus, there are no more absolute values.
@davidanderson6055
@davidanderson6055 Жыл бұрын
Very high quality debate. Many of the students seemed annoying and arrogant to me. The one from England i think stole a great deal of time from others by interrupting the candidates, demanding follow ups, and making long winded statements disguised as questions. Reagan sounded more young, energetic, and fresh than Kenndy, although he was older. That was interesting. I can see why he was such a force. Both men would be shot in the years to come. That seems unthinkable now, when politics seems so much less reasonable, factual, and well thought out. Interesting.
@matt3024
@matt3024 Жыл бұрын
Half the comments must be from either old farts or kids under-20 Because anyone who remembers Reagan that wasn't one of his cult- like followers -knew the guy was a shallow moron who for the right price changed his party- as though he actually believed in anything other than his own personal gain. He was the test dummy for Trump!
@roughhabit9085
@roughhabit9085 Жыл бұрын
I agree, some of those students were bordering on insufferable. Nothing much has changed.
@davidarneson7100
@davidarneson7100 Жыл бұрын
Loved the cigarette ad. Our country was a better place back when more people smoked…
@Lee90000
@Lee90000 Жыл бұрын
wow seven minutes. I wish I could last that long.
@indiosveritas
@indiosveritas Жыл бұрын
...tobacco.
@TomSanderson100
@TomSanderson100 Жыл бұрын
The second person you see in the panel from Europe is Ann Ford who later became a well known journalist in the UK and presenter on BBC and ITN news
@jerryross3438
@jerryross3438 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Reagan's good. These two are each impressive. Love the ads.
@verbalviper
@verbalviper Жыл бұрын
This video becomes an absolute banger when the Pall Mall commercial starts
@mikesaundersnyc5200
@mikesaundersnyc5200 Жыл бұрын
This is 1967. Over the course of the next 12 months RFK's views on Vietnam would shift to become more anti war. Reagan of course would remain an adamant supporter of the war.
@ReligiousZombie
@ReligiousZombie Жыл бұрын
46:14 "Now the lovely blonde girl from England." I can hear Millennials and Gen Z collectively gasp.
@huascar66
@huascar66 Жыл бұрын
It is amazing that these two gentlemen could debate each other without shouting, screaming, or the other antics of most of today's politicians. The civility is almost painful to watch when one views how our political climate today is so polarized and confrontational instead of being civil and polite.
@roughhabit9085
@roughhabit9085 Жыл бұрын
What an original comment 🙄
@hiramabiff885
@hiramabiff885 Жыл бұрын
Two great souls.
@fnolan100
@fnolan100 2 жыл бұрын
I wish we had their leadership now
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