Nikon Z 70-200mm F2.8S VS Nikon 70-200mm F2.8E

[@RicciTalks]

Hey Everyone ! Better late than never right ?? ;) So I was actually impressed with the performance of both these lenses. I do think that it's actually a hard decision choosing between these and it depends on what cameras you have. If you are a Z user it makes complete sense to go with the Z lens but if you are running an F-mount DSLR with a Z secondary it makes sense to go with the 70-200mm F2.8E, then you can use that lens on both cameras. Either way I hope this video helps you in some way ! As always any questions below Thank you for watching !

[@alexflores6006]

Thank you for the video.

[@photosmusic7177]

Thanks Ricci for the video. As before, it's helpful and illustrative. Though perhaps not high in your priority, a comparison between the G version and this S version may help those thinking of adding or shifting to a Z-mount system make up their mind.

[@Kkozi]

This is the problem with struggling f-mount lenses. I have 400/2.8G VR, 70-200/VRII, Sigma 135/1.8 Art...and this does absolutely the same thing. I shoot football with the 400mm. It is really good lens, focusing is very good but struggles in the same way like in your test...focusing from far to close and from close to far. Is it technological problem? Or Nikon cripled it intentionally???

[@stevevantongerloo]

So what to do when you already have the F mount.. sell it and go for the Z mount? Or keep it with the adapter?

[@deanjelcic9299]

I actually think the Z lenses kick ass out of f... 😁

[@RicciTalks]

Wow ! this is my fastest Viewed Video of all time !!!

[@delancey205]

No doubt because everyone has been waiting for this lens for nearly a year! This is an essential lens for the Z camera system and the results look great. Thanks for the video.

[@photosmusic7177]

I decided that I will skip the E version and get the S version so was eagerly awaiting how these two stack up in a real world comparison. The MTF Chart indicated that the S version will excel even over the superlative E version but I wanted to see how that translates into some examples. Though I use this focal length less these days, I will be getting the 70-200mm f/2.8 S once Nikon extends a discount on this lens like it did with the 24-70mm f/2.8 S later in the year or hopefully early next year. Rather than get a 70-200mm f/4 S should this be released in the future, the one lens that I will be waiting for Nikon to release is a Z-mount 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 . My 70-300m f/4.5-5.6E AF-P on an FTZ is fine but a Z-mount version of the 70-300mm that is significantly better will prompt me to get a pair of Nikon’s highest resolution Z-bodies.

[@dance2jam]

A year and one half down the road this evaluation was still worth while, well done, and appreciated. Your summation is exactly the point I find myself (entering the Z mount with the Z9, but still utilizing the D850/D500). Thank you as always for your thoughtfulness and Happy Holidays.

[@michaelingler9245]

Excellent analysis and discussion. The side by side comparisons demonstrate that if you have the F mount lens, there's no compelling and dramatic reason to purchase the Z mount now. The differences are minimal so having the F mount now, I'm not persuaded to make the switch.

[@Zeppy007]

Same here agreed!

[@brucegreaves3204]

Agreed, I love my f mount e version and it is also great on the z body with an adapter. Thank you nikon

[@michelgilson1644]

The new Z 70-200 is really good !! Great picture quality, very comfortable in hand. It was long overdue but it is really worth it !!

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

I'm struggling with the idea of replacing my Nikon f-mount 70-200/2.8 with its newer Z-mount version. I've always been impressed with the performance of even my older, V2 model. Still, dropping over $2000 to replace a lens that still works great is a bit of a bitter pill to swallow. Having said that, this is the only direct comparison I've seen to show the performance of the new Z-model and it's given me something to think about. Thanks for the great review!

[@alexbaja7922]

I have had the Z 70-200mm f2.8 for a couple of weeks now and am very impressed with the results, great video keep it up

[@RicciTalks]

Glad to hear you like it!

[@tomhughes5123]

had mine for years . g ed vrii ..toygh as boots

[@eugenee.dorsey50]

Thanks for this video, I just purchased the F mount on sale recently and saved a lotta money. I’m satisfied with my purchase.

[@MikeJamesMedia]

Thank you, Ricci for continuing to make these great comparison videos. I can't say I was surprised at this comparison, having seen all your other videos, but it is gratifying to see the same general traits of increased sharpness, better contrast, etc., on the Z lenses. Take care!

[@suyashkulkarni8071]

I own 70-200mm F/2.8 FL. Already a fantastic lens . Looking forward to this❤️ Thanks for video

[@RicciTalks]

Thanks for watching

[@slideworks]

Another fantastic and important video, thank you as always Ricci!!

[@RicciTalks]

Thanks a lot !

[@joemeka]

Ricci, please compare Nikon Z5 & Z6 lowlight performance 🙏🙏🙏

[@RicciTalks]

One of the next videos too

[@StefanPacMan]

@@RicciTalks Z5 vs Z6 vs D750?

[@emanuelschimpfossl5919]

With the tree picture I thought the z lens was wwaaayyy sharper. Anyone else?

[@betacar0tin]

Great video! I would be interested in VR, focus breathing and parfocality tests.

[@Ortho281]

Good comparison as usual. I Pre-ordered mine early Feb and I have been anxiously waiting for mine!

[@V2KPhotography]

Great Video! Thank you for your time and effort in making and sharing this with us all. The sharpness and contrast of the Z lens is absolutely brilliant. The only thing that bothers me with the new Z lens is when you stepped into the frame during the video AF test, the lens hunts a bit before it acquires focus to your face. But, surprisingly the f mount 70-200 is pretty confident in acquiring the focus to your face. I would have expected the Z lens to outperform the F Mount lens, but that's a bit disappointing. The Video AF performance from the Z lens doesn't exhibit confidence. :-(

[@technanban]

Hello Vinod Bro..❤️ Big fan of yours from Chennai 😁

[@V2KPhotography]

@@technanban 🙏🏽😊

[@DirkDien]

Finally it's there!!! I can't afford it anyway, but was so curious about the new lens, hopefully at some point in the next years.... 😅 Thanks for your great content Ricci!

[@gbye007]

Best comparison yet, especially with the outside long distance tests as well as the shorter range studio tests.

[@RicciTalks]

Thanks 😊

[@twistacatz]

Thanks for all of your work Ricci. I always enjoy your videos and your work!

[@leonardbertaux6897]

Just picked up my copy today. Low light auto focus was hunting in low light, much more than my other Z lenses which was surprising.

[@mux2007ch]

Hunting is a big problem and disappointment. I have a Z7 and was shocked. Basically the camera cannot be used at available light indoors at family gatherings. :-(

[@tonyscavo9411]

Thank you for your thoughtful analysis as always. My question(s) now that the Z9 is “here” which 70-200 lens would you purchase for that body if you also took into account build quality as it pertains to the amount of plastic now being incorporated? The price keeps going up but the direction away from an all metal exterior gives me pause… clearly the Z lens is sharper at the edges and at the ends of the aperture range but now that the Z9 has no shutter and possibly an extended life cycle (due to the mechanical shutter being the #1 failure point of any camera until now & the Z9) we (Nikon) seems to be going backwards by introducing more plastic into the Z (S) lens line. What are your thoughts? Thank you so much 🙏

[@57sapke]

Great video. I own a D850 and Z6ii and have a 70-200mm VRii. What would you suggest keep the VRii or buy the Z 70-200mm

[@irfanomer5331]

Dear Mr Ricci, Thanks for the very good comparison. Very helpful! Please continue with 24-70 f2.8. Thanks a lot

[@ThePhotographyHobbyist]

EVERY Z mount lens I've used so far on my Z7, Z50 and now the Z5 (with 24-200) has been VERY noticeably better than any F mount zoom I've used in the past. There are too many 'Negative Nancy' types on the internet that complain about everything but rarely show the art they're making. People (general statement), stop with your whining/endless measure-bating and go out and use these great pieces of equipment and make art. You'll feel a lot better in the end :-) P.S. I DO like to see reviews and get impressions of the performance of new gear (like this video, just matter of fact presentation and make up your own mind), but ultimately camera/lens buyers need to stop obsessing over tests and get out and actually shoot something. And if you're going to do nothing but b!itch about how this or that is not perfect, then at the very least, show us your work so we can know whether or not it's safe to ignore you or take you seriously.

[@jrarsenault1937]

There's winners and whiners - generally people who don't have their own parade will rain on others.

[@peterchia41]

Got my copy. It an awesome lens that works great with the z6. only thing i have against the lens is.... it is made in Thailand... no more made in Japan. :( but the lens still still awesome and the quality is there. Am happy to sold off all my F mount and converted.

[@keliu5821]

Nice review as always. In the other hand I would like to see the comparison between z24-200 and z70-200 on 70-200 range from f/6. 3 onwards. Of course I would expect the 70-200 will crash 24-200 but I am curious how much. Not sure if I am the only one curious on this 😉

[@officialMainspring]

fantastic vid. Thanks! as a owner of the E-FL I will be getting the Z but not right away... E-FL is such a competent 70-200 already... having said that what will make my decision final is how the Z works with the 2x teleconverter. I expected the S series to be better and I am not disappointed. looks like a great lens!

[@RicciTalks]

It works even better with the Teleconverters cnt wait for you to see the tele converters tests

[@officialMainspring]

@@RicciTalks Thank you for the reply! looking forward to that vid!

[@ronaldpollard8990]

Ricci Got mine Today. Super responsive & Fast man. Love the weight & Build

[@adurgh]

Awesome review! The F mount can probably be gotten used in good condition for considerably less money, and given their relatively close performance and the slightly better made in Japan build, I would go for a good used F mount lens.

[@carlmarch603]

Hi Ricci - thanks for the great comparison! I’m still in the “Never” category - ordered mine January 6th... Really looking forward to receiving it and the TC’s!

[@RicciTalks]

It’s certainly worth the wait I hope you get ur copy soon ! You must be pretty high up the list.

[@victorpeters589]

Hello, In the video's you don't mention this, but did you AF Fine Tune the F-mount glass on the Z camera before making the test shots? 'Cause I'm wondering whether the differences in sharpness could have been caused by the slightly back or front focusing of the F-mount lens. As far as I know the Z-mount glass don't need AF Fine Tune because of the on-sensor AF system in the Z camera. But I'm not so sure about this in regards to F-mount glass. Thanks in advance for clarifying this. Cheers, Victor Peters

[@NikCan66]

This is great news for people contemplating switching to tbe Z mount version but for action,sports and wildlife areas I think I will will stick with my D5 and D6 F mount cameras.

[@RicciTalks]

I love my D6 and there isn’t a Z camera that replaces the D6 available yet !

[@NikCan66]

@@RicciTalks i say a Z version of the D6 for next years Olympics would take sales away from the D6 and I do wonder will we see a Z mount versionz of the F mount of Nikon 200mm f2, Nikon 120-300mm f2.8, Nikon 300mm f2.8 and Nikon 180-400mm f4 lens and 400mm f2.8 lenses

[@charliechoiniere8755]

@@NikCan66 I think Nikon needs to worry more about other camera manufacturers taking sales away from them than themselves. They should just manage inventory appropriately based on market demand for the D6 and still put out a pro mirrorless body to compete with Sony and Canon.

[@NikCan66]

@@charliechoiniere8755 I agree with your sentiments but the mirrorless D6 or whatever name it will be called will have to have the same basic capability as the D6 with better build & battery life and faster fps to surpass Canon and Sony with a 12k video like the black magic camera.

[@snehasispal833]

Both the lens are superb. Very much waiting for your detailed review of z5.

[@kennyadvocat]

Very nice video! I've been out of the scene for a while. The last dslr i had was a D90. Would it be worth it to pickup a used D850 and all these older F lenses used now that prices are starting to fall? Or is Z mount the future and F mount will be useless once the last of the older bodies go extinct? Can't believe they changed the whole mount system.

[@DerBitfluesterer]

for me the S 70-200 Z Mount is a weapon. Thx for that greaful Test and Info. Wait now for your experience with the Televonverter. Thx a lot and have a nice weekend!

[@christroy8047]

Ricci - Question: When you are photographing your kingfishers in flight - do you use Continuous high extended or Continuous high? Many thanks - I've been getting great results with my Z and birds in flight but wanted to know what you do - Thanks! Chris from Canada

[@henkbogers8366]

Hi Ricky, love your reviews, especially the comparisons. You can make your own conclusions. Thanks. But i have one question: can you add the DXO SCORES in your reviews. That would add another cfurther objective parameter to the reviews? Thanks Henk from Holland

[@WOLFTICKVIDEOS]

Now that tap to focus, I think your right, we need too be aware of the FTZ adapter, and the fact that it could be affecting the focus. This was a great video, thanks.

[@leandrowngo]

WOLFTICK VIDEOS I’d say it’s not so much the FTZ but the difference between the silent wave motor in the F and stepping motor in the Z.

[@caljackson3940]

Ricci, I really enjoy your videos. I've been a Nikon shooter for several years. I've noticed in several of your F mount to Z mount zoom comparisons you say the Z mount is a little bit sharper. Or, the F mount has a little color fringing. In your opinion, would current processing software make adequate corrections? Keep up the good work.

[@awaller568]

great report, just a few questions, are these uncompressed JPG or RAW files, and in lightroom are you applying any lens profiling or is it unedited? I am genuinely interested as I currently have both systems. I am wondering if it is worth the transitions to the full Z system. Current and accurate lens profiles can really affect the final image quality.

[@hagarthehorrible1391]

since you are a Nikon employee, can you let us know if there are any plans for a 15/16-35 2.8 lens for the Z mount? If no can you suggest that the company make this. for my usage the 14-24 is too wide. A 15/16-35 would be a great range, specially for my use case (Indian weddings).

[@flickrchannyuk4396]

Incredible AF speed from the Z lens! Wow!

[@amornsethkumpaengseth6902]

Hi Ricci. Always been a fan of your channel as I am a Nikon user myself. Wanna ask u some question if there is a way when using manual focus on Z lens to be a linear focus system? I use Nikon D850 and Z6ii to shoot video and now starting invest in Z lens. I've just bought Z70-200 and notice that when I use manual focus to shift from a subject in background to a subject in foreground, a footage does not look smooth like it use to be in F mount lens. I don't know how to describe but when manually change focus from back to front , or front to back, the footage look like a focus change step by step, not gradually smooth change like in a F mount lens. Not sure if u'll understand but I'm happy to show u the footage that I shot using manual focus shift on this lens. So is there something that I miss, or is there a way to change non linear focus to linear focus system when I use manual focus mode? Hope u see my comment and let me know if there is a way to fix this problem maybe via firmware or adjust some setting that I miss. Thank you so much to ur reply.

[@tonyberry6710]

As always, a very informative and useful comparison. I come into the category of a mixed DSLR/mirrorless user and so I will stick with my 70-200mm f/2.8E for the moment, even though the Z mount lens looks superb. Ricci, please try to cut down on the use of "little bit" a little bit.

[@RicciTalks]

There’s always a phrase I say too much sometimes it’s “so” sometimes it’s “littlebit” I try ! Haha

[@jss27560]

Good video as usual. Definally looking forward to see the tests with the teleconverter as there are only 2 long lenses on the roadmap.I know you do not do reviews like this but I’m just on the z-mount with a tamron 20-200 f/2.8 G2, would it be a great improvement?

[@RicciTalks]

I’m really excited about the possibility’s with the tele converters they show amazing performance. Iv never used the Tamron G2 so cnt really comment the main differences would be how the lens communicates with the camera so auto focus metering ect

[@Ian1957a]

I like your comparison of the 70-200 f/2.8 lenses. I use the AF-S 70-200mm f/4 with the FTZ on my Z6 as I don't want the weight of carrying round the f/2.8 which is twice as heavy. Are you likely to compare the f mount f/4 with the f/2.8 lenses as I would be interested. Do you think Nikon will produce a Z mount 70-200mm f/4 to complete the f/4 trinity.

[@IustinPop]

Thanks for the review, indeed the Z is better but so close that upgrading is not worth just yet. One question: are the lens feet interchangeable? I have an RRS foot replacement for the F version, and I wonder if I can reuse that for the Z version or not. I see you have some plate on the (original?) foot, or am I mistaken? Thanks!

[@sparkeyjames]

Sorry I'm a little late with the comment but did you auto focus correct the E series lens? Were the shots taken using auto focus or hand focused? I ask this because like all things manufactured variations do exist from one example to the next. It is the reason the more advanced DSLR's have an auto focus correction feature.

[@sagekim7143]

I loved my 70-200 f2.8 VR-I that i purchased new more than a decade ago. I never had the weird problems when i swirched from D300 to D800, and i never changed to the VR-II or the VR-III. That being said, when i tried to use it on my Z6II and Z7II via FtZ, i felt that the AF was slower and it hunted... i felt like i was crazy as people on the internet were talking about how well the FtZ worked. Personally, while the FtZ isn't terrible, i think canon did much better job with their adapter for their mirrorless cameras. That being said, people asked why i switched my 24-70 and 70-200 from F to S-mount. I am glad that my concerns of AF performance wasn't, "in my head".

[@TraceurCMann]

Awesome in depth review as per usual. Bit more excited about the EN-EL15C battery review than the 70-200mm 2.8 as the latter is a bit out of my budget for now (it will be mine...eventually!) :)

[@RicciTalks]

Thanks for watching 15C will hopefully be up tomorrow

[@dje7917]

Hi! Do you think the 70-200mm F2.8E f mount is a faster lens than the 200 500mm 5.6 pf? I own a z6 mark 1 and the 200 500 and want to change for the 70 200 2.8 Thanks

[@LuisPerez-fy6up]

Canon R6 VS Nikon Z6 really hard to choose any advice? I am a nature photographer

[@peterchia41]

honest opinion. If nature is close up and require long end zooming in on objects.... the Canon is better due to the current lens selection. But the Z cameras like most nikon have nicer colours. do it really depends on what you need. Also, the wide 12-24mm f2.8 for Nikon is still a long way away....

[@scottweaverphotovideo]

Hi Ricci! Have you tried using any of the PC-E lenses with the Z series? Can't find any videos from anyone on this.

[@paulbennett429]

Cracking video Ricci, I have mine and the teleconverters on order, just one quick question, what adapter plate are you using on the tripod foot, is it the 3 legged thing version and if so is it the 70 or 85mm one ? Thanks

[@RicciTalks]

The adapter plate I’m using is actually half of a 3LT Ellie Lbracket it’s the base plate off the bracket ... It measures 85mm in length However is longer than the foot the foot is 65mm So if you want a slim fit sounds like the 70 would do but if u want the plate to be abit bigger than the foot look at the 85mm

[@paulbennett429]

@@RicciTalks Thanks Rikki, I think i have an ellie sitting at home that I bought for my D750 so will just use that. Have you tried the Z 70-200mm with the 2 x Teleconverter yet ?

[@dougkoontz1752]

Just so I understand your test what camera did you use on the 80-200 FL lens? What body did you use or was it via an adapter on a Z series?

[@aussie8114]

Won’t be getting rid of my F in a hurry. Corner sharpness is a non issue, some corner softness is desirable to me anyway. And I’m not about to use 2.8 at 200, the DOF is way too shallow close up.

[@peterchia41]

yea, but the auto focus seems better. Had the F mount previously f2.8E and VRII. there is a difference in performance.

[@Sergher]

Finally... good test!

[@RicciTalks]

Thanks !

[@frankb3229]

THANK YOU FOR THE EXCELLENT COMPARISON. Here in Germany the price for used F 70-200 has tabled a lot so that as an owner for that one, an of a DSLR + Z7ii it makes a lot of sense keeping it. However if Nikon brings the Z 100-400 I know what to do ...

[@marekjaniak8881]

How about a test of af with moving subjects? For example a person running towards the camera. I have the 2.8E and sometimes it struggles on Z6. Especially in low light. Is there a considerable difference between these two lenses for sports?

[@jimroehm3938]

Thank you!! A very comprehensive, and I feel unbiased, comparison. Good job!!

[@ananyasinghal4745]

The Z mount 70-200mm is a class apart, Had it in my hands for 10 days now, loving it. Wish I could be out and about shooting though. Still many infections in India, so staying in as much as possible! Great video!

[@martym1797]

I'm not convinced there isn't an image quality loss converting the E version to the Z mount. I don't see the ghosting or softness you got, with my E version on my D810. Why not compare the F mount on a D850, versus the S mount on a Z7 and see how it turns out. With the much larger mount on the Z camera, I'd bet the S mount would still win in the corners, but I'd be interested in seeing if the softness you got in the center of the F mount, improved using the camera mount it was designed for.

[@mikecessford9450]

Great video. Very useful and a real insight into what the Z 70-200 can do. I think it might be the combination with the teleconverter that it is at its best in comparison to the old F mount "E" version. As my current 70-200 is much older than the "E" it makes it a simple decision.

[@scottweaverphotovideo]

Enjoyed very much. I was distracted a few times watching your excellent vid... did you cover ergonomics, weight, handling, build quality, electronics? Thanks!

[@RicciTalks]

Handling build quality was covered in the first look I did a few months ago

[@ZoranvonderHeide]

Could please make a video where you compare the combos D850 + 70-200mm f2.8E FL and Z7 + 70-200mm f2.8 S for specific usage (i.e. wildlife, wedding, portrait, landscape, cityscape, pros and cons).

[@KarenVaisman1]

I have the older 70-200 VR II. Would you say the difference is greater compared to the z? Do you have videos comparing the older f mount 70-200s? Thanks!

[@RicciTalks]

Massively the older VR 2 was improved upon greatly by the new 70-200 which has been improved upon again by the Z 70-200

[@kennethbradstedlarsen5194]

Thank you for the comparison video. Looks like im gonna have to get rid of my old Nikon 70-200 2.8 VR in exchange for the Z version :)

[@RicciTalks]

You will love it

[@patricksmith2553]

I believe your copy of the 70-200mm f2.8E FL suffers from focus shift at 200mm, other people including the reviewers at Photography Life noted this issue with sample variation as well as decentering in other copies. I believe this occurred more in the earlier copies, but I'm not sure when the seemed to fix the issues that some bad copies had. My copy which was purchased only a month ago and that has a high serial number, is extremely sharp at f2.8 and all focal lengths, including 200mm. It's definitely sharpest at 135mm, but its sharp all over. My copy of the FL would definitely due better in this comparison at 200mm and I'm pretty positive you have a poor copy at that focal length at least. I expected the new S lens to best the FL based on your first impressions and it's nice to see that it did in fact beat the FL. However I think most of what we are seeing is the benefits of the larger mount and much, much shorter flange distance. I believe if you could mount the FL directly to a Z6/Z7 that you'd already see a difference in corner sharpness. The mount gives lenses an instant and noteworthy advantage over a DSLR.

[@RicciTalks]

Hey Patrick I tested 3 f-mount 70-200mm FL lenses at all focal lengths I then chose the best f mount lens from those tests to go against the Z. The hope is that removes sample variations and issues related to manufacturing from early to later serial numbers. So I try to remove sample variations but can’t always guarantee it. Also worth noting that I only have 1 Z 70-200 so I had no way of comparing that lens across different samples.

[@patricksmith2553]

@@RicciTalks Ok maybe there is something else going on with needing micro adjustments or something. I'm just surprised by the results of the FL at 200mm, because my recently purchased copy is very sharp wide open at 200mm and has no ghosting. Great video by the way and I wasn't trying to knock your testing, it's just the results you got do not match my experiences with the FL at 200mm. Also the Z lens is meant to focus natively with the Z series, where as the FL is obviously adapted and intended for focusing on DSLR's. One you thing you left out or didn't test is the FL focusing on say a D5 or D850, because I tested my new S copy against my FL and the FL does focus faster on a DSLR (D5) than the S does on my Z6. I don't mean tracking either, I mean from racking the focus from infinity to minimum.

[@Bayonet1809]

@@patricksmith2553 The Z-mount does not provide any inherent benefit to Z cameras. It just allows for more flexibility in lens designs, which we have seen borne out in the improved optical performance of the Z-mount lenses. Hypothetically (if there were such an adapter), mounting the FL directly to the Z-mount would not improve corner sharpness, all it would do is prevent focusing at longer distances (e.g. no infinity focus).

[@patricksmith2553]

@@Bayonet1809 Well you're just flat out wrong and don't know what you're talking about. It's widely known and understood that a larger mount and the much shorter flange distance results in better image quality. Having the glass closer to the sensor is a huge advantage not just for designing. You should research this topic and you'll see what I mean. By the way I'm not talking Z mount to Z- mount obviously, I'm talking Z-mount to DSLR. Nikon engineers and spokesman have already admitted the advantages of the larger mount and shorter flange distance. It's an advantage over DSLR not itself, correct. LOL. My point is that if you could mount the 70-200mm FL F-mount lens directly onto a Z6, you'd automatically get better results, most notably sharper edges. I'm not here to just make things up or pull things out of my ass.

[@aussie8114]

Patrick Smith don’t try pulling a 70-200 out of your ass 😫

[@aidanlester2893]

Sorry if you already answered this, but on a Z camera does a Z teleconverter work with the ftz and the F 70-200mm please? I'm guessing it will all physically fit together, due to the space in the ftz adapter.

[@RicciTalks]

Sadly not Z Tc only works with Z lenses

[@intrinsicimagery]

Would love to see the Z against the Tamron G2 and Sigma.

[@musicfromheart]

JJ Westgate G2 is garbage, I had one.

[@intrinsicimagery]

musicfromheart oh shit. I’ll have to refund the hundreds of clients I’ve shot with it.

[@keithcooley4509]

This could just be me, but the picts of the color checker seemed to show color differences. The Z lens seemed to have more vibrant colors vs the F lens. It's not much but the colors do seem to be slightly different.

[@wilteduk007]

Can you upload the raw images used in these tests? KZbin is very difficult to see any improvement in quality on video. I've been waiting on this comparison since the Z 70-200mm S was announced.

[@cesarm8811]

Do you think the FTZ adapter cause some of the issue with image quality and auto focus with the f lens

[@irfanomer5331]

Thank you for the comparison!

[@osangulon]

Thanks for the first little comparison, although I have the impression that you are not always neutral when it comes to "Testing the S-Line-Lenses"! I have the impression that the focus is not always the same with both lenses. It is also noticeable that there are no test shots at different reproduction scales. The distance specifications are missing. Typical for such a lens are distances of about 2m, 5m, 10m and infinity. Many greetings

[@MarkAHunter]

Hi Ricci, When will you be posting the 70-200 f2.8 S, and new Z teleconverter videos?

[@RicciTalks]

In a couple of weeks I would say Iv got a few Z6ii videos I’d like to get edited first Iv got some good comparisons for the new Tc just need to put the video together

[@MarkAHunter]

@@RicciTalks thank you.

[@fabiankeppler315]

Was the F lens focused correctly? index 4:49 looks like focus is more behind the colorchecker

[@jonathansasin1276]

HI i would love you to compare F4.0s vr 70mm-200mm to the Z 70-200 as the F4 was sharper than F2.8 cheers Jonathan

[@vickosis]

Did you miss the noise level during the AF test (from 22:14) on the Z lens for some reason?

[@michelthebassplayer]

First of all it is obvious that you are bias towards the Z lens but I couldn't help but noticed that you are comparing a new lens specifically designed for the z cameras to a lens designed for the DSLRs thus going through the Fto Z adaptor... I haven't seen the Z version but I had the f E FL version with my D810 and I was absolutely blonde away by the sharpness of this lens compared to all the previous versions & if you are a DSLR shooter definitely well worth the money & finally No Focus breathing anymore... Also the construction of the pro level lenses (N) for DSLR is superb & I haven't seen a Z mount lens matching them yet. You should try the E FL lens on a D850 body & then do the comparison every time you stick more glass in the mix (i.e.:more lens elements you get les sharpens & more aromatic aberration problem)

[@Zeppy007]

Would be very nice to see that comparison!

[@TonyHedges]

Ricci, whats the minimum focusing distance for this lens @ portrait length?

[@senaritradutta]

did you try the 70-200 fl lens firmware 1.01 ? it reduces that AF sound so much

[@vincentrichard2703]

Very interesting ! Could you do the same with 24-70 2.8 ?

[@HR-wd6cw]

If you have the "E" mount now (and a Z body) you might as well just use what you have. I honestly don't think it's worth the upgrade price unless you're doing paid work and can recoup the cost of the Z mount after tradining or selling the F-mount version. For Z shooters, it only makes sense though to spend the extra money and get the Z version, even though it will probably cost you another $300-400 (I mean if you don't have any F-mount bodies, there isn't much reason other than cost to by an F-mount version of the 70-200 unless that $300-$400 was a lot to you. To me, I would just spend the extra money and avoid having to use the FTZ). But people should also keep in mind that lenses work best on the bodies they were designed for, and while the FTZ is an excellent accessory to have and in many cases, it's very hard to see any differneces, F-mount lenses will work best (overall) on F-mount bodies. And the same for Z, although it's not possible to mount a Z lens to an F-mount body anyway. In some respects though, I think the 45MP found in the Z7/Z7II and D850 really "test" lenses the most, because of the high resolution and it will show any optical deficiencies of the lenses. But I do agree that if you're going to test both F and Z mount, do it on a Z body to get the best comparison (even though the F-mount was not designed for the Z mount bodies in mind obviously, it does remove the variable that a camear body can bring to the comparison).

[@commonsense4219]

For any meaningful comparison I'd have to get a new pair of eyes, lol. For the price, I'd stick with the F mount. The Z series are much smaller/lighter bodies, but until the size/weight issues of the lenses are solved, the balance of the two is a much bigger issue for me. I'd love to see a comparison of DSLR/Mirrorless bodies in extreme weather conditions, that would be great. Thank you.

[@jonathantriscuit6434]

Thanks for the video. Is it just me or did the Z lens at 200 look like it had just a slightly wider FOV than the E?

[@D_L_J_83]

Hi Ricci! What camera did you use to film this?

[@RicciTalks]

The bits me talking to camera ? That’s a Z6 with a z50mm f1.8

[@rolandrick]

That’s kinda very interesting, I have the 2.8E and at 200mm 2.8 it is as sharp as it gets, used on a D850. I yet have only the Z7, with the FTZ it is far less sharp on the Z7 as on the D850, specially focussing on far distance subjects, the results of the Z7 are unusual (statically subjects/landscape). Honestly, the last time I tested this has been before the 3.40 firmware, which brought a lot of Z9 experience to the Z7 (Z7, not Z7 II). Don’t have the Z 70-200 yet.

[@lescobrandon3047]

Mine was preordered when announced. Months later, I checked today with Adorama and the “preordered” note is now “backordered”. Not easy for us NYers where many truckers refuse to enter the city because of violent crime rising 230%.

[@logtothebase2]

What is the focal length at the long end at close focus and how tight is the composition for say head and shoulders portrait, again at the longest.?

[@ilja4420]

How you can compare sharpness when not 100% zoomed ???

[@troyphillips1077]

I was wondering if the new TCs will work on the old f mount lens with the ftz? Probably one of the biggest strengths of the new system as a whole is the TCs . Before with them degrading the image quality so bad and the af performance. This now takes what is seemingly a heavyish lens camera combo and turns it into a light weight long lens system. Make the 70-200 a great buy in versatility.

[@RicciTalks]

No you can not use the f mount lenses with the Z tele converters I go in to more detail about that in the Tc video I made.

[@stefano_campani]

What about focus breathing? Seems to be a little worse than dslr version. Thank you

[@nick_homburg]

Nice review I like the overall comparison

[@alexyu9037]

So many video about the z 70-200, but where it is? Out of stock everywhere. LOL

[@avnerbenzvi8757]

i have the Z 24-200 still didn't decide to have the Z 70-200 or waiting to 100-400 can you show us the differences 240200 to Z 70-200

[@ilja4420]

To make objective sharpness test you must select a point in frame when you want to focus, manually focus to this point make a shot, repeat this steps for 3-5 times, choose the sharpness picture. Next do the same for second lenses. Now compare two pictures in 100% zoom, not in 1:2 like you do :)

[@danielgeneau9282]

There is a difference that struck me that you don't mention. In the texture of the frame with the color squares, the Z lens is more moiré, there is more specks of colors than with the F lens.

[@billmoyer3254]

Ricci Talks...the best!!

[@RicciTalks]

Thanks ! 😊

[@mindcave]

Hearing the word "soft/softer" being used to describe anything about the FL-E lens blows my mind. Absolutely nothing soft about my copy whatsoever. Raaaaaazor sharp, wide open. Utterly flawless copy here. I'm guessing you have copy variance.