Rich Photographer vs Poor Photographer

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[@UmarRosyad]

Conclussion; woman give more smile on expensive thing.

[@payamhassani7265]

:))))))

[@LPVit]

why is this not pinned XD

[@SophayGraphicDesign]

I also feel

[@kwizmon]

Also, conclusion.

[@mrla9235]

Mas Umar i cried. lol

[@mediaaddict3997]

Wait there's actually such a thing as a rich photographer I thought we were all broke AF.

[@ivantribidic4573]

Media Addict ¡as focks!

[@drackar]

There are no photographers with lots of money. There ARE photographers who have spent lots of money on gear.

[@willherondale6367]

Media Addict I don't understand... you broke your autofocus?

[@mediaaddict3997]

Will Herondale I liked your comment because I say the same all the time.

[@matdemaz]

The pun, it hurts. 😂

[@errolsmith5634]

I cant afford the poor man light.

[@GeorgeDike]

It's $30 for a Neewer TT560 speedlight

[@hyunjincho955]

Any broke man options out there? 😭

[@josezaragoza6405]

Any homeless options out there

[@third-strike]

your phone's flashlight lfdlfdlld

[@incubus_the_man]

Jose Zaragoza-Calderon shoot outside mid day or by a window. steal 3 peices of foam core or aluminum foil tacked to cardboard. Use the sun with some diffusion is possible for the key and use the foam or foil as your fill...

[@AmatuerHourCoding]

"how many lights can i surround my subject with before she leaves"

[@olakunleolafisoye8433]

Hahahahaha!!!!

[@limegpt]

7:48 $10,764 - Smile $424 - No Smile Hmmm

[@muhammadbahmudah8202]

&aturdays true

[@jasong4460]

And yet, somehow, the second picture still looked better. But maybe that's just me.

[@nurproductions6886]

&aturdays for that price who cares about the smile lol

[@pumpkingamebox]

I'm also smiling on the rich one because I'm dying of laughter at how convoluted this is XD

[@RichardNievesNY]

Love these kind of videos that brings us back to earth with the basics and helps us stop dreaming of spending a bunch of money in gear. Thank you Sir!

[@robkr]

If you write down "Profoto" on your foamcore, its price will increase from $5 to $150 :D

[@hanchesterman5661]

To me this was by far your most informative Video of this series so far. I liked how you constructed your Image step by step! Thanks for sharing

[@cinnamonlizard4304]

Great video, thank you! I owned a photo studio for years (poor man's studio lol) but one of the best portraits I ever shot, was of a fine artist, a painter, and I shot it with one single desk lamp I bought at a thrift shop, leaning it on my knee! When the artist passed away a few years ago, it was the image that was used for his obituary and memorial service. Cheers.

[@InvisiMan2006]

A photographer who "needs" a $10,000 lighting setup isn't a pro photographer. Thank you for showing that experience and knowing how to use your equipment is more important than the equipment itself.

[@inevitablecraftslab]

You "need" good factory support with a pro-plan, easy replacement and high built-quality. Pro stands for professional and means to earn your living with it, compared to people buying pro-equipment and don't earn a living with it, the so called amateur. Also your last sentence assumes the pro doesn't know his/her lights which is bs of course. Everyone complains about products beeing made cheaper and customer support is getting weaker and don't get that they are not willing to pay for it. Just because digital photography is booming nowadays and everyone has to have everything doesn't mean quality equipment gets cheaper.

[@ZeldagigafanMatthew]

While I do agree that 10k in lighting is excessive, the higher prices on these products is often associated with a wider range of uses like partial stop increments, remote control, quality control, as well as support should anything go wrong.

[@EdgarHernandez-xj5mx]

If you have to business to afford it you can still be a pro

[@박덕배-i6r]

lightroom is absolutely crucial!

[@iKeto_gal]

oooh don't let KZbinr John Gress know that. He's a gear snob or just a snob in general lol...and don't even try and challenge him because he gets angry and defensive real easily.

[@aestheticstudios3148]

The smile is better with 10k gear

[@abdurrahmanmoustapha]

Aesthetic Studios the $10K idea gave her the ability to smile 😂 she lost her awesome smile when she knew that yongnuo is only 50$ 😂 she has an awesome smile btw !

[@Ozzyisunavailable]

my favorite photo is a shitty iphone photo i took of a friend, the sweetness in her smile just makes it for me, ive never been quick enough to capture that with my dslr

[@aestheticstudios3148]

gear test.....or social commentary oh humans love of money? Haha

[@IgorFrost]

Because 10k makes more smile than 424

[@cooleyballs1]

Light is light..

[@DanteVelasquez]

Excellent. This proves it's about skill not gear.

[@TitouanDebray]

To be fair, they still used a d850... But yes, I agree that when it comes to light and umbrellas, it's really about skills. I'll also add that 650 dollars for a softbox is utter madness. I'd much rather buy 20-50 dollar umbrellas and invest more in lenses and 50-150 dollar speedlights.

[@TheRabbitshare]

Yeah, i truly agree with you, is all about concept of light, no matter what you gear you have, oh sure "expensive" gear more help to produces hight quality images more easy no doubt about that but again, with more cheap and little efford to make some DIY stuff we can achieve 'relatively' same result, Btw thanks for sharing with us @fstopper guys

[@DanteVelasquez]

:-)

[@Q_QQ_Q]

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[@sydneysidersammy]

You still need the right gear for the job. It's just that for this job, the cheaper gear does the job just as well. if you were shooting outdoors with some wind, you might prefer soft boxes to umbrellas that would break under those conditions. (For this shot, you don't want to shoot outdoors) If you were lighting a bigger scene or again shooting outdoors, you might need more power than a cheap speedlite will give you. The gear is important. But not the price of the gear. The fitness of the gear to the job. The photographer's skill is also important. The model cooperating is also important. It only takes one weak link to completely ruin the shot. It can be any of those.

[@t9nu]

It's not rich vs poor photographer equipment. It's rich vs poor photographer knowledge.

[@bradl8887]

Yes, that's the point the video is trying to make.

[@human47134]

Don't forget the cost of all those light stands and counter weights lol

[@Mark-Huigen]

Plenty of ways to ghetto that too!

[@peterw1878]

The valuable information was not in the equipment but rather in the placement of the lighting and the techniques used to achieve the look the photographer wanted. Great video.

[@keithspillett7312]

Why would anybody give this video a thumbs down? It's highly informative, and demonstrates two perfectly valid approaches to lighting a portrait.

[@YaTaGB]

Oh, I see this is your first day on youtube. Welcome to the thunderdome.

[@Timinator62]

Those were the Photographers that should have watched this video before they spent $10 Grand

[@igorsrudinskis6210]

he says on the beginning the pro looks better but it`s not

[@TiBunCosplay]

The dislikes are from the people who try to sell the super expensive equipment. They don't like the idea that people don't need their product lol.

[@jrr4eg]

I not press any thumb, but i think it's strange what he call poor people who have camera and lens for couple thousands bucks

[@HuFilms]

It's funny how the mind works, from the thumbnail, I thought it was the cost of the photographer for hire and thought the image on the left was down to how the photographer got her to pose nicer!

[@MacXpert74]

Yeah, that was what I was thinking as well. That's because the title is a little misleading. He should have said something about cheap equipment instead of 'poor photographer' For all we know, the poor photographer is the one that bought all the expensive equipment and now is poor as a result ;D

[@articgoneape]

SAME!!

[@articgoneape]

lol

[@keriialee1931]

Hugh Sweeney SAME

[@victorcoyenn]

Same here lol

[@kathyhallandale7314]

I use two $8 LED lamps from the flea market covered with all white toilet paper, its pretty decent.

[@redtvproductions1]

Kathy Hallandale Im sure you get a lot of clients to pay you $1000 for a days shoot like me.

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

you see a lot of that in your country with the lovely aroma of open river sewer through main street

[@GenesisCruzerNeo]

Kathy Hallandale oh my...marry me!!

[@travis8665]

Ashley Cantwell You are both low class shit people.

[@sayantanduttaphotography]

Whoever uses sunlight is lowest class, since its free :P

[@omermagen824]

Lmao I use a dollar store flashlight and paper as a diffuser

[@AbirSpeaking]

i use the sunlight :3 500px.com/abrianomunez

[@V_channel_]

@@AbirSpeaking And your photos look (imho) fucking great! 👍

[@JaySilva88]

Knowledge is the most valuable piece of gear you could ever have. Thank you.

After some more comparing, i noticed a lot of differences in the two photos. Her chin is a bit tucked in, giving smoother lines. Her head is turned just slightly to give some better lines. Her hair looks a lot less messy. I think if you change the cheapo pic by duplicating her exact position it will have the potential to look almost identical

[@WakenerOne]

Exactly, Jaime Almeida. What a lot of people commenting on lighting tutorials like this tend to miss is that he's _not_ trying to teach you how to take that particular photo. He's trying to teach you how to think about light before you even walk into the shooting space.

[@AndrzejJeczen]

I'm a watch photographer and I found out that the best lights for my products are cheap, £20 worth video lights. I use studio lights only to freeze the watch movement, but the best results I get are from those video lights with the small soft boxes that I designed and used tracing paper to diffuse the light.

[@RED-yd8qh]

Literally spent all his money on lights. The poor man could go outside for free.

[@AmbiencePT]

What if you only have a potato ?

[@IAmWhil]

I'm going to try to use a hollow potato as a light diffuser.

[@Evilzoot99]

turn it into crisps - sell them at the same kind of mark up as Walkers do - then buy 2 potatoes with the profits and keep going - eventually you will be able to buy the world!

[@AlainSTO]

Wait as the camera or the light?

[@Evilzoot99]

never heard of a pin hole potato?

[@mootpointjones8488]

AmbiencePT Are you Dan Quayle?

[@AndyHTu]

Poor or rich gear all have the same quality to me. To this day I still use the cheapest stuff. The only real thing I spend money is if its portable enough and powerful enough. If I can't carry it with me or use it, then it is useless to. With studio lighting, the cheapest stuff is already really good unless you need that power for HSS stuff. Other than that, I feel like most photographers over spend on their gear, basically living by the idea that bigger is better. It still boggles my mind how much people spend on brand named difusers when a cheap unknown brand on amazon is enough.

[@ambushb0y]

Bingo.

[@hayliedlr]

I buy most my gear on ebay. I have about $2,000 worth of gear but paid maybe $300. That's not including my camera though.

[@Obeijin]

I have a $ 30 2MP Hello Kitty camera ...

[@holladaycubed]

Obeijin oh just picked one up for $5 can’t wait to take some portraits 🤣

[@Joshtk94]

Softboxes are so unnecessarily expensive, They should be worth like $30-$50

[@MarcTheHat]

Out of all the HUNDREDS of photography videos I've watched, this one has to be THE most useful for the greatest number of photographers out of ALL of them! Thank you SO VERY MUCH, Sir. $774 for nothing more than a cloth enclosure (0.51)? This kind of common lunacy, directed purely at the gadget junkies and Gary Fong wannabes, is nothing short of OBSCENE!

[@julioestebanperezescudero6246]

Marc Mitchell Some manufacturers sell the name sometimes their gear is produce side by side one with the company name ant the other without, being the two of them identical.

[@darioinfini]

Don't underestimate the $10,000 worth of experience and knowledge on how to control lighting gear.

[@iCharm1]

"and if i was really rich, i'd have an assistant doing this.." made me laugh so hard :D

[@BryanSalesDP]

Whatever tool one uses, the one with creativity will ALWAYS have the edge.

[@Flaw202]

I'm happy you ran this experiment! I've been wondering if my skills alone, will carry my photography work to the next level. Even though I can't afford the expensive lights and modifiers at the moment.

[@phatcrayonz]

Desmond Wordlaw it’s all skill. Not gear. Be creative.

[@ChimaChindaDev]

She's so elegant. Great video too.

[@paragdeshpande3715]

Chima Chinda I can't stop looking at her.

[@mackjeez]

My buddy owns a photography businessand still uses a Canon EOS 50D and lights from the early 2000's. The man has talent and very good Photoshop skills.

[@LIBICU812]

Post link.

[@MacroMelodies]

03:30 This girl was probably thinking "holy SHIT" TOO MANY THINGS AROUND ME LOL

[@Xiox321]

If she's a professional model, then she see's this stuff all the time.

[@mixlegal4005]

LOL! I was thinking the same... "Oh my... Why doesnt he just open the window? Too many things around me..."

[@KrisKomar]

@@mixlegal4005 Clearly you've never shot in a controlled studio b4...

[@hiwelcometochillis4395]

@@dustovshio pretty sure you need to stop watching porn and comment on here

[@crome2298]

@@dustovshio lmao this guy gets it.

[@charleyl264]

Watching this one again and again too. You need to make more of these step by step training videos. They are great.

[@beerborn]

If you use a light meter both poor man and rich man strobe lights will be the same.

[@besisikaphotography3061]

I have always said that it is not the gear, it is the photographer. All you need is just a sense of humor and a decency to lie to your model that she is in good hands.

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

Why she?...

[@auralvision3267]

cAUSE UR'RE AN INSECURE LITTLE SOYOBY

[@madman2u]

+Michael Angelo H. *Because* women tend to be more insecure about themselves than men. I'm not saying that women are more fragile, though the insecurities definitely will show easier since women tend to be more emotional than men. BTW, the test was muddied the moment he told/showed her which gear he used.

[@maythesciencebewithyou]

Well a good camera and good lenses are mandatory for fotoshooting. For lighting you don't need super expensive lightsources and umbrellas.

[@edverosky]

I'm always talking about doing more with less when it comes to my photography, and this is a good demonstration of that principle. Of course, there are plenty of reasons one would want to use high-end gear (durability, dependability, ease of use, and in some cases appearances). Most photographers don't need to put much money into their gear; but most could stand to put a little more time into their technique.

[@duodua4130]

stop spamming no one cares about your channel

[@lydiaemeric1831]

Well said! You can always upgrade!

[@iSOBigD]

I don't know about. Even a cheap APSC sensor is much larger than that of a phone, and a cheap $50 prime will give you nicer soft backgrounds. For the price of a $1000 iphone, you can absolutely buy an old FF DSLR, or a newer crop camera, a 50mm or 85mm f1.8 prime lens (or 180mm f2.8 used), and all the YN flashes + cheap diffusers he used here. Put that up against any phone will no lights and there won't be a competition. Keep in mind for controlled studio shots like this, you don't need an amazing lens or camera. Focus speed, VR and high ISO quality don't matter since you're shooting at base ISO so you can use just about anything.

[@iSOBigD]

Makes sense, but then why would they use a cell phone for that same purpose? I just gave an example as well as reasoning as to why a bigger sensor and lens can give you better results, just due to physics. Yes, a brand new cell phone and a 10 year old camera may not compete well (so I'm not comparing a FF sensor at 1 MP with a crop at 40mp), but at the same time a fixed aperture and fixed lens phone can't compete with any DSLR/mirrorless which can switch lenses for different uses. A phone right now can give you sharpness, good post processing due to faster processors and better software, etc. but you can't do close-ups of a bird in flight with a ~30mm equivalent cell phone lens or blur our the background as much as on a fast lens without post processing, for example, no matter how good your phone is.

[@iSOBigD]

I guess it's debatable and depends on your usage. I also take lots of cell phone pics, and when I'm traveling and don't have to carry a camera and lenses around, or it's not safe area, etc. a cell phone is great. I think cell phones absolutely destroyed the point and shoot/pocket camera segment. However, when I do use my DSLR, it's extremely rare that people looking at my pics can't tell that they're much better than what a cell phone can do. We're really not at a point where people don't often confuse cell phone pics with real camera pics unless we're talking daylight, F16 and landscape shots maybe or the newer dual camera phones using the portrait mode. And again, used lenses are relatively cheap, while phones are more and more expensive. For $50-$300 you can buy a decent used lens for just about any use from portrait primes to super wides or all-around zooms, while the price of an iphone flew past $1000. I don't think there will be a magical tiny camera that takes the same pictures as huge cameras any time soon just because a large camera of the same year/tech level will always handle light better, so there will be a use for them...at least for the next little while until something revolutionary comes along.

[@DreadsOfAmbition]

Difference in light quality can be seen. That being said knowing how to achieve a particular look is more important than the gear.

[@iAmTheSquidThing]

Paper lanterns. They make for a pretty good budget diffuser in my experience.

[@luczyn]

Truth is Shani looks awesome in any light :)

[@shironmiah7861]

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[@shironmiah7861]

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[@Penelope416]

DeckerBens LMAO! 😭😭😭

[@KrisKomar]

@@shironmiah7861 You forgot to uh....type.

[@NikolaStamenkovic6]

You nailed it. Keep it up, I would love to see more contents like this.

[@doctorjudy99]

same here!

[@salakophotography6668]

Trade the pocketwizard with the Yongnuo YN 560-TX...half the price and you can control the speed lights from it.

[@CarmineGroe]

Great video! Clear demonstration that anyone who puts the work in discovers: it's developing the eye and then most importantly having a point of view, not simply dropping cash and buying the latest gear, that will make all the difference.

[@kashyazapala2613]

One of the favourite tutorial on studio lighting so far. Thanks

[@aljeanjhon]

I don't think you really need the fancy equipments But I think creativity and practice will do..

[@PhotoKenji]

Aj5oz And he actually does not have to do this in a such bias way.

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

Most of the time, it is not about what you use, but how you use it.

[@BrianPex]

The main point here is how you shoot. If you're doing a lot of indoor, studio type work, you can get away with Speedlights 100%. And you could throw in a YN560tx that controls all the flashes via 2.4Ghz radio. Throw if some nice modifiers and spend an extra $500 and you'll be able to create ANYTHING $10,000 lighting set ups in THIS PARTICULAR SETTING and maybe even better since you will have so much more room to work with. Knowing how light works is much better than spending $$$$$ on lighting that does nothing to make you better and only makes you poorer...

[@Berserkeroffroad]

A rich photographer will quickly be a poor photographer when the knuckle loosens and drops the light on the talent. Rig the light so the weight tightens the knuckle, not loosens it. And don't hang your sand bag so high. That raises the stand's center of gravity and defeats the purpose of adding a sandbag to begin with.

[@nickshaw8502]

This was the first thing I noticed

[@LIBICU812]

Rich man would have assistant do this for him. I'm not lugging around sandbags and cases of gold plated lighting for myself or anyone else. (One light=$2k?? Must be made of gold)

[@Domestikos88]

If I didn't know this was a video about photography...i'd say it sounds like you're channeling some Buffalo Bill vibes here..

[@jasonmiles7285]

Thanks for showing this. I was in pinch and used 3 speed lights and a bounce panel to do this exact thing. The photos came out great!

[@FilmMastersChannel]

I see more detail in the poor mans light. Only because the image looks a little too well lit in the other. I guess filming has changed. People want more natural looks. But like art its in the eye of the beholder.

[@kuhndj67]

I think film lately has seen a shift to working with natural light... but fashion photography is still very much in the 'active light sculpting' mode. I personally think what is being done in film is very cool (and often very challenging - getting the right look when all you have are natural sources... there's some genius in the work I've been seeing)... but I still have respect for the studio folks.

[@DesoloSubHumus]

The amusing part is that if you use the 'poor man's' photo and do a few, quick tweaks in either Photoshop or GIMP, you end up getting all the details of the 'poor man's' photo AND the bumped up contrast of 'rich man's' photo, resulting in a photo that is better than either original photo. No ultra-expensive lighting needed.

[@knifeyonline]

people actually pay that for an octabank? I thought they literally used umbrella's...

[@knifeyonline]

also they could have created exactly the same image with more umbrella's, diffused more, added under and right. It still would have been much cheaper yet he thought it was necessary to add the light when he was doing the expensive one but not when he was doing the poor version... he's an idiot.

[@kellemese6252]

her hair also seems nicer on the cheaper shot.but the results are not 23(10.000/425) times better, maybe 6-7 times.It would be easier to tell if they would love to make money according to this photo -for example in a marketing campaign etc. If the additional price comes back it might worth it.But I doubt it. It is also very hard to measure stuff like that.That is why you need your senses :). I would say sometimes less is really more.Or "just enough" is the best.

[@saiphaneeshk.h.5482]

The rich photographers are the one who disliked... 😅

[@TEDSHOTTHAT]

SAI PHANEESH 😂😂😂😂 I've always said how do you spend all that Money when all it takes is technique and know how of making the shot better. But yet people spend all that money on equipment.

[@TEDSHOTTHAT]

SAI PHANEESH wanna know what else ive learned? The ones who mostly spend so much are the guys who aren't that good but think spending on expensive equipment will make them a better photographer. Wrong!!!!

[@HengSophie]

It can also be those who promote the expensive equipment. F-Stopper is killing their game. lol

[@RussellTracyPhotography]

Full disclosure, I shoot Profoto equipment. Just thought that should be stated upfront. With that out of the way I completely agree with the point of your video 100% which (I believe) is you can create fantastic images no matter what gear you're using as long as you know how to use it and how to work with your subject. (If Im wrong on that, please correct me). The "problem" I have with these $$$$$$$$$ vs $ videos is they never explain why professional photographers use the expensive equipment over the less expensive equipment. Most of the time more expensive gear isn't just about having more expensive gear, its about having gear that makes it more efficient and easier to get the job done that you need to get done. Sure portraits are pretty "easy" to shoot with just about any type or price of light as long as you know how to control the light you're using and how to work with the subject. I always carry a speedlight in my bag for simple, effective portraits I have to take because for simple portraits speedlights get the job done most of the time. However, I do a lot of shots where I have to freeze movement using lights. The flash duration of the lights will determine how well you can pull that off. Less expensive lights have a long flash duration and dont always produce sharp, crisp images of movement. Most of the more expensive lights have incredibly short flash durations that give me the results I want 100% of the time. How about you do this video again but instead of the model sitting there, how about getting a dancer in studio and have her do some jumps and see how well your less expensive light does compared to the more expensive light with a short flash duration (make sure you zoom in and look at the hands and feet and see if there is motion blur/ghosting). Try the same thing with the dancer but shoot a a high frame rate sequence of her jumping from one side of the frame to the other create a composite of the images where the flash fires every time (think 10+ fps). Do you think your less expensive light is going to keep up? Also, were you intentionally trying to increase the price on the Profoto setup by using the much more expensive (and not necessary) heat resistant soft boxes? Your $800 heat resistant soft box isn't necessary. You could have used the RFi version that is $260. You could have also used a third party softboxes that are even less expensive.

[@drivingpsyche]

Also B1's are so strong you can shoot in daylight and overpower the sun - impossible to achieve with $50 speedlights. It comes down to a similar comparison of an expensive sports cars vs junk daily beaters. Both will get you to and from work in the same way. But once you start driving them at the race track, then the daily beater dies after a lap of two :-)

[@Blestyr]

This response is very enlightening, thank you Russell Tracy!

[@CartubeCoIl]

As the old saying, I am not rich enough to buy cheap things.

[@midge_gender_solek3314]

Exactly, when it comes to expensive and specific studio conditions, the appropriate equipment is neccesary. But, again, for most photographers working with most things, it's not really worth it to buy some equipment that makes an advantage only in some situations. The same thing applies even to a camera itself - if you're only, like, making daytime photos of your friends' holiday, you can really just use a smartphone. All of it comes down to deciding if one absolutely needs special gear for the things they are doing. These videos are just there to show people that they do not need ridiculously expensive gear for usual things.

[@hurniclaude]

What you say is absolutely true. As a pro it's well worth investing in some high-end gear. But for me the point of this video is not to bash on pro gear but to show that, for some work, you can get away with gear that doesn't cost you a fortune. Many beginners dream of high-end gear or even use the lack thereof as an excuse for not going out and shoot. I think it can be liberating to know you don't have to save thousands of dollars to even start with photography. You can get yourself a small, inexpensive set of equipment and do great photography with that. As you develop your skills you can add specific equipment that suits your needs.

[@jeremytiran1397]

this video deliberately drops every photographer who has a simple gear. Always remember that it doesn't always have expensive tools but the results are very bad, and you also have had simple gear before havingn expensive gears like now ... RESPECT 👌🏼

[@floex831]

The poor man’s light is $425 I thought that was going to be a Yonguo, which actually work just as well as the Canon and Nikon first party speed lights. Well that’s what happens when you comment before you watch the whole video. YongNuo also makes their own triggers that are also cheap.

[@malteb5546]

If one where to use a bunch of YN560 IIIs with built-in 2.4G wireless receiver, why wouldn't you trigger your speedlights with a $40 Yongnuo YN560-TX trigger that also allows you to individually tune the flash power remotely instead of a $170 pocket wizard set? You could even get a decent bowens mount off-brand softbox and an S type bracket for less than the difference.

[@karlostanishev5645]

small correction, the poor photographer has no extra light, no reflectors and shoots with D3300, not with D850

[@xandervanommen3777]

Karlo Stanishev same! But i can still get some great shots! I just use random nightstand lamps and towels and my nikon d3300, just be creative and you will get the results you want with anything! (If you wanna see what i do check my instagram @lok3st )☺

[@karlostanishev5645]

Oh you can do great photos without equipment, thats for sure. I only criticized this video

[@hectorperezphotographer]

Karlo Stanishev 🤣😂

[@alanschamber]

That is not a photographer, but a noob. You cannot work without extra light. You can work with a D3300 if you want, but if you don't get lights, you are just someone who doesn't understand what's important.

[@thandermax]

lol

[@anricurmeneta8420]

It's about the skills

[@sutejotan5817]

the man behind the gun

[@MarioJRRoach]

Well, try taking a photo with a blackberry and see if your "skills" saves you.

[@sutejotan5817]

ireremy - good luck with taking photos with D850 but with no skills

[@anricurmeneta8420]

Sutejo Tan I agree

[@anricurmeneta8420]

¡Reremy Let's say two "photographers" are competing with each other and they are restricted with that blackberry thing. One is VERY skillful though that person can't apply all of his/her skills. The other only knows how to press that capture thingy. Who do you think will win?

[@kyletenorio8541]

Great comparison! It's true you don't need expensive lights modifiers to create great photos. One big difference though is the ease of use, recycle time and the speed that you can change or modify your settings. In the studio flow and appearance is important especially with customers who aren't experienced models.

[@thefreshman07]

Undoubtedly the best video this channel has released.

[@codemaster57]

I think the only flaw of this video was not taking the cost of the stands into consideration. Otherwise a good confidence builder for the budget photographer.

[@FStoppers]

Well the cost of the stands is exactly the same with both setups. I also didn't count the camera and lens. I'm only factoring the difference in lighting

[@codemaster57]

Good point! I was only thinking that after seeing the speed light placed on the floor. Made me laugh as I've raised eyebrows by doing that for adhoc shoots.

[@warrenkawamoto8660]

But....with the expensive gear, it's easy to make adjustments very quickly. With the cheap gear, you'd be fuddling around endlessly, taking away your concentration from the model. Working with the cheap stuff requires more time, and time is money in the professional world. That is why great chefs use very expensive knives, and pots and pans...they may be able to achieve the same results with the cheap stuff with more effort, but it's so much easier and faster with the best gear.

[@tinashezimunya2288]

Poor photographer will not be using a d850 🙈

[@DropItStudio]

ahahahahah xD

[@LukaszBrodziak]

Aaaaaand? This shot 500px.com/photo/244089881was taken using 3 Yongnuo 486 speedlights two on sides bounced from cheap reflective umbrellas third one bare. Some christmas lights and Canon 1200D with Canon 50mm STM lens. I used black glass from Ikea to get reflection.

[@deus77ex]

nice one

[@stevelink21]

Nice tutorial! As a "poor" photographer, another "cheap" way to soften the flash is if you happen to have a white ceiling above the subject, simply bounce the flash from the ceiling, while also using a white cardboard reflector in front of and under the subject area to mitigate shadows from the overhead light source. This way, only one flash (expense) is required...Of course, it might not look as "polished" as the multi-flash or "Rich" option, but to each his own.

[@waltermessines5181]

You made my day. Fun, entertaining, no-nonsense, back to essence. Keep them coming.

[@acidluving]

This really proves that with intelligence you can overcome any financial barrier

[@brotschuh]

Awesome. Almost best explaination of light setup ever seen.

[@VagnerRanieri]

Its like a virtuous musician that can execute a great music even if it's instrument don't costs thousand dollars. I see a lot of professionals that support its work only on the gear and don't in their habilities. Nice video.

[@marcomark8]

this is exactly the information I have been scouring KZbin for. A true comparison as to weather the high end equipment truly makes a large difference. the answer is not as far as the final out come of the photo. But I know the pricey stuff has better build for durability, warranty, accessories... great video!!!!!!!

[@Pinlore99]

I would have used 2 Neewer soft boxes at $45 each instead of 2 umbrellas. Much better light than umbrellas.

[@photofrontier2353]

Thank you for saving me $k of money for the type of photos I do. Perfect timing of this video!

[@freedomofmotion]

Awesome results really demonstrates pro level photography by show casing it's not about the equipment. Cheers.

[@CrepitusRex]

That young lady out shines any light you may have. Gorgeous.

[@abovegroundlevelvideograph1933]

Im a self-admitted gear addict, but I was really impressed with the quality of the portrait with the "budget" stuff. Well Done! Thank you

[@paulbroderick8438]

Well presented. Too many people sold on 'quality' gear. Thank you.

[@askaliu2943]

or a few Ikea tall light for like $20 each, some pieces of white paper, and yah... the key words are "Light control", and you can do it however the hell you want as long as you understand how light works :3

[@bigdave46148]

And that is the trick, understanding how light works.

[@kenshiromilesvt.7037]

This is the content I’m subbed for thx guys

[@manuelcastelan7501]

When working indoors, there is no need to spend all that money on the profoto lights, however. The second you go outside during anything other than golden hour, you'll quickly realize why you need to spend the extra money.

[@shahilo]

Manuel Castelan I

[@patricksheridan2829]

Have 2 b1s and shoot on location regularly doing things a speedlight just can’t do.

[@sebastianschmidt3869]

You could also use a Flashpoint/Godox AD600. Wireless battery strobes for around 500 bucks.

[@manuelcastelan7501]

Sebastian Schmidt that's true. I actually own flashpoint strobes. But there is one major downside to them. You can't control the power output as well as with the profoto lights. Don't get me wrong, I still think it's more bang for your buck, but if you're wanting convenience in all conditions. Profoto is really hard to beat.

[@patricksheridan2829]

I would have considered the Godox for sure, but they came out a few months after and I did get the academic discount from b&h so it was slightly less painful. 😂

[@deitrajackson8552]

I really enjoyed this video because I tell people it's not the equipment, it's how you understand and work with the lighting! You made me dump my Amazon cart and reload it with [budget-friendly] Yongnuo equipment! Thank you!

[@mikemlong00]

Really a great demonstration! Made your point quickly and explained the setups really well. Thanks!

[@Groesch7777]

The only thing i got from this is how little i know about photography 🤔

[@timelord2222]

Don't ever think of yourself being "poor photographer" just because you have basic gear. Never forget that you're miles above smartphone shooters anyway :)

[@danielgontar6743]

7:48 I highly disagree. The model is way happier in the more expensive shot. Proving that girls like expensive things.

[@phaskellhall]

Daniel Gontar you know, that's exactly what she was saying off camera. It all makes sense now

[@casamayer]

The B1 commands respect

[@uabir8338]

Daniel Gontar respect!

[@SianaGearz]

I think it's because the photog made a dick joke while shooting her with these big phallic flashes.

[@kellemese6252]

you also seem happy when you smoke a pot while in reality you are not

[@kellerasselmusik]

I like the "poor man" better, somehow softer and more emotional

[@saurasrisen5881]

So,a good workman never quarrels with his tools. Great job, Patrick!

[@karolinatargosz7959]

Good video. Good concept. At the end of the day is a photographer and his knowledge which counts.

[@MichalOlender]

Good one, shows you don't really need expensive equipment, also lets not forget about Lightroom ;)

[@SeamlessTeam]

which you can get from piratebay for 0€!

[@pizzablender]

Instead use RawTherapee. Or Darktable. Open source and truly free - and no subscription.

[@w0udo6yv4o4]

I too use Darktable. Screw Adobe. Their software isn't that good anyway

[@louisanthony266]

425 bucks is considered a poor mans light? Wow ok

[@thebolivianguy64]

Louis Anthony sadly in the photography world it is

[@danieljones8706]

Pocket wizards are pricey. Yongnuo's remote flash system is about $45 per transceiver. You could also just let the main flash trigger the others and shoot without High Speed Sync. Keep in mind that this is for a full 4 light setup. Most of my portraits only use 1 light.

[@upwardcreatives1459]

You can go on Ebay and get a 2 or 3 light set up with a Trigger that is great for pretty cheap! like, less than 200 bucks probably. From Yongnuo that is. I have 2 560iii and a 660 with the TX560 - They are good for the money and have been reliable for me so far - i opted to get some inexpensive soft boxes as well - I didn't purchase everything at once - i got it bit by bit - but, you might be able to get the 2 560iii with the TX560 to start off - they come with little mounts you can set on surfaces until you can get light stands to mount them to. Good stuff! God Bless!

[@RapidImages]

Oh come on, $425 is nothing for a bit of gear.

[@Brigittekabai]

mean to write the same ha ha

[@tatts4life838]

Great video. I hate when photographers are always trying to push that you need the big expensive stuff in order for your photos to look good. Another thing that annoys me is when they always talk about buying the newest model instead of staying with one for awhile.

[@lauravelascothecarriagehou6328]

I love this! ive been shooting since 16 and have used all the DYI gear you can think of!( because i had a 16 yr old budget) now that im older i constantly struggle with should i use my old methods or buckle down and spend the money. this proves you dont have to (although the look on my clients face as i pull out a hoola hoop covered in white quilting material as a soft box is priceless! good points though! this viseo would manke my husband happy! he always tells me to not spend so much money on equipment!

[@Dreyno]

It’s the photographer. If only non photographers appreciated that it might be skill and experience, not the “nice camera” that makes the photo.

[@robertoprestigiacomo253]

But professional photographers use expensive gear anyways. Just saying...

[@paulemmanuelkohler6843]

Great work. I love my gear, but I like money in my pocket even more.

[@petrub27]

10000 usd gear and you could not find a brush to arrange her hair? guess will photoshop it on a 7000 usd imac pro , lol

[@vinyalonde]

Thank you very much for posting this. Fascinating and very resourceful work on your part.

[@MarkHarveyArt]

Great video. Just bought myself a fold out reflector and portable LED. Learning how to use light is a great learning curve, but like your video, it proves you don't need to spend a fortune to get half decent results. It's more about learning how light works and how to get the most from it.

[@dragos001]

None of those tests are relevant. This test is not relevant, the 7000eur vs 500eur camera test is not, the 85 f1.8 vs 85 1.2 is not etc. The problem is not if you can get the same pictures with the different gear, of course you can, you can get the same picture ONLY with reflectors and the sun if you want. The question is: How fast you get the pictures and how easy it is? And what if the conditions are not so ideal? What if you have to shoot all day, or you need more power? Or you need fast recycle time? Or you don't have time to change power manually? Or...

[@8654ZuluFoxtrot]

Your comment makes very little sense considering what the intent of this video was. He proved his point very well and it is EXTREMELY relevant.

[@JamrockNoble]

I agree with your comment but in this specific example it doesn't quite mesh with your point because he used a pocket wizard system to trigger the speed lights when yungnuo has a trigger for their flashes or he could've used one of the units as master to control the power of, and trigger the other flashes plus he could use equally cheap strip boxes that actually collapse using an umbrella mechanism. The profoto strip boxes have to be put together and taken down which is especially horrible if you have to shoot on location. So, while in some cases more expensive gear will be more efficient to work with, I don't think that applies here

[@artistjoh]

While cost is important this studio shoot misses 2 key things. Weight and size vs power, both of which become important outside the studio. On my own speedlites and shoot through umbrellas can be the only option due to size and weight but there are times outdoors where it is necessary to have the lights some distance from the subject. Those times my B1's are the only realistic choice due to their much larger light output an assistant or two becomes necessary. Speedlites are great but it is easy to find their limitations too.

[@HenleyBailey]

Totally agree, when it comes to fighting the sun for light - things get serious. Saying that, there's brackets to hold three speedlights on one stand so there's still a fighting chance. I personally prefer light and mobile so I went the speedlight way, but there's times when I wish I had the big gear.

[@gabrieladest367]

This video just explain us about stupid rich photographer vs smart poor photographer. Not rich gear vs poor gear in all condition.

Expensive gear, no matter what kind of gear we are talking about, is usually not about getting a different result. It is more about practicality, speed and reliability.

[@BarryKidd]

I agree. I use everything from Profoto to speed lights and fancy light shaping tools to do it yourself stuff made out or wood, cardboard or even paper. For me, it's all about being efficient and what makes me more efficient for each job.