i love that there’s a guy by a river whose first analogy is of a fart in an elevator and second is of a house with all its windows thrown open. i’m guessing he should not have ordered the casserole.
@fastfrankblack17 жыл бұрын
the funniest, most wonderfully clear and lucid, engaging writer on fields which are so often buried under waste of everyone's time pretentious, name dropping twaddle. nnnoooo!!! we need more of him; not less.
@DanLackey17 жыл бұрын
I met Rorty in 1993, at a conference in Tulsa. His 'rhetorical presence' in this video has a kind of well-fed Bloom-at-Yale gravitas, which is appealing but completely different from the man I recall from the Tulsa conference, the obsessive self-effacing ordinary-Joe who at table extended his hand to this secret admirer, saying simply, 'Dick Rorty.' If literary and cultural criticism ever re-achieves its Trilling-and-Wilson-Goodman glory, Rorty will justly be given a great deal of the credit.
@Mukaiji17 жыл бұрын
I just realized that Rorty passed... This video makes me want to go re-read everything.
@americanphilosopher11 жыл бұрын
@Caio Well, Hickman refers to Rorty's penchant to view science as just another form of literature as the basis of his objection (I think). His worry seems to be that this underestimate's science's connection to the real world, i.e., a world outside of mere conversation. I think they agree that we never get closer to the truth insofar as our situations are always changing and truth is functional for all pragmatists. At least that's my take.
@phillipmcreynolds14 жыл бұрын
You can see the whole thing at vimeo.com channels americanphilosopher
@caiogbarros11 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I understood in the interviews the two main objections to rorty's and kuhn's idea that there is no such thing as "getting ever closer to truth" is that we can have progress in two forms: in the form of technology and in the form of knowing what "does not work" (which I believe means that we know from past failures of philosophy, or any other discipline, what is not fruitful). Those are rather poor objections don't you guys think?
@dionysianapollomarx4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. What they're saying is that there is relative certainty. Incremental progress occurs, by throwing the bathwater, finding the baby, and developing ideas using the baby as a foundation. They think Rorty overstates uncertainty as absolute.
@waterkingdavid10 жыл бұрын
Told at philosophy graduate school that Dewey and Heidegger were idiots! By God I sympathize with Americans who use something of that space between the ears. How could such a state of affairs have arisen? All power to Rorty in getting people to think about Reality.
@Dylvente13 жыл бұрын
@MrCouchTuber It's a disease, "clips from Rorty himself," or an error in sentence construction. :-)
@asburytheo16 жыл бұрын
is not only a bad argument, but it is contradictory to your implication that other views need to be heard (egalitarian). Oh, and philosophy is art.
@uglybunny15 жыл бұрын
Lol, I had to look back at the rest of the convo after reading this comment.
@dobiastiehl16 жыл бұрын
totally agree.
@onamor4517 жыл бұрын
rorty is a friend of mine, though in books. I love him and hope i can make his thoughts better. My paper on him is about to be done yet he too is done...
@xenoblad2 жыл бұрын
Finished the paper yet?
@MrCouchTuber15 жыл бұрын
Richard Rorty recently died with clips from Rorty himself?
@asburytheo16 жыл бұрын
Gross misunderstanding of post-modernity (which began in the academy ala philosophical reasoning). However, I will be the first to admit that logic is not the be-all and end-all... but you used an If-Then statement, called a Conditional to demonstrate why we don't need logic anymore. Give Rorty a spin again. After all, he is considered one of the greatest post-modern writers/thinkers of the 20th and 21st century.
@ghitasunshine45905 жыл бұрын
Two words: Spinal Tap...
@longcastle48632 жыл бұрын
Is Rorty as pessimistic and defeated about life as he sounds in interviews?. I read his books and essays, but did not catch the _there's no point to it all anymore_ feeling from those, like I get in his interviews.
@brandgardner2118 жыл бұрын
Richard Bernstein looks like Keith Richard. Which do you think is the better philosopher?
@Savorist16 жыл бұрын
Your concern for logic and validation is exactly my point, asburytheo. In a (post) postmodern society, what place does logic really have? Ad hominem may be the only way - the only way to arouse change as Rorty claims the priority to be, in place of "truth" seeking. If philosophy is art (which I'm glad you acknowledged in the midst of your ignorance), then the artist, with his/her intentionality, can trump logic by simply saying so.
@asburytheo16 жыл бұрын
Not really an argument there, Savorist. Ad Hominem, though. It does not affect the trajectory or implications of the Rorty and the views presented here, but it is something to think about. There are certainly other diverging and even similar views proposed by feminists, post-colonials, and other hermeneutics as well as people from non-European and non-North American backgrounds. And they are more than worth hearing and analyzing. Yet, to say that their conversation is irrelevant...
@Savorist16 жыл бұрын
You nitpick, my dear boy. Obviously, in order to express an idea, there will be hypocrisy. It's visible in every single philosophy to date. The ways in which philosophers prove their points may go against the overall theme of what they're saying. That's a given, and academia has grown to look beyond that, and left that kind of argumentation to dilettantes such as yourself. Just for my entertainment, what IS postmodernity, asburytheo. In your own words, if you will.
@1330m2 жыл бұрын
German philosophy ---- Peirce -- lady Welby -- C. Ogden -- Ramsey -- Wittgenstein- --- Vienna circle ---- US analytic philosophy ---- Neo pragmatism ---Neo hegelism : Big uroboros panorama
@manwaring15 жыл бұрын
So, you've equated Rorty's views with Rousseau and then Rousseu's views with Marx and then Marx's views with Hitler and then you expect us to you for something other than an uneducated lunatic? Sir, books are good for you.