Slavoj Žižek meets Yanis Varoufakis (Part 1)

[@lukimaxvideo]

the ability this man has to never finish a thought is astounding

[@ranro7371]

Talk with Will Self was hilarious

[@doonilevitin]

@@ranro7371 Trump is a twisted fruit, just what losers like @ranro7371 need

[@d_rooster]

I guess that would be more of an inability to finish a thought... :D

[@janbudin5900]

He is high

[@lukimaxvideo]

@@janbudin5900 that would explain the constant sniffing for all those years yeah

[@tomlangford1999]

Varoufakis trying to get Zizek to stay on point is like watching a man wrestling an unruly dog

[@johnsmith1474]

A large wet dog.

[@raphaelkorn8899]

What was the actual critique of Lacan? I got lost.

[@Hederaastro]

😂😂

[@allencohen4204]

As zizek once memorable said... " ja I know I'm only supposed to speak for 4 muinets but you know... well.... fuck you".

[@urlauburlaub2222]

Both are very influential. Propably they survived so long, because there was always another one presenting them a bottle of milk, which they then emptied. Glory to them, the milk producers are dead now. Now they hope, that the new producers are as good in producing stuff, because they don't want to drink just half or some poisened stuff. The new producers might think now, that they are the new kings, but they don't find buyers anymore, so they earn half as much and soon have drastic shortages. So, they die, too. Officially, they were against Putin and the oligarchs, but they are the helping idiots dying for nothing.

[@Rspooner765]

Slavoj comes out snortin and coughing up a storm before he even speaks. The content that keeps me coming back.

[@louiswilkins2034]

He really is the most coked up sober person I’ve ever seen. I wonder if he ever took cocaine it might slow him down.

[@zinovigoubar]

It is very simple. He is using coke.

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

And within 5 minutes says the most brilliant s#!t!!! What a trooper, taking one for the human team. 😊

[@benjaminjohsnon8286]

​@@zinovigoubarHe had tics. He actually talks about how he doesn't do it as much when speaking French.

[@burcuvasdfg596]

İf part 2 doesnt come soon we will RIOT!!

[@ReasonableArgumentsBeingMade]

Seize the Means of Part 2! The CapitaClysm.

[@RandomNooby]

Lets riot anyway, it's in vogue across all political spectrums....

[@torquemaddertorquemadder2080]

Watch out! Sir Keir Starmer will send one of his state-sponsored Grooming-Gangs round to kick your door in.

[@prasantakumarb.k.720]

We are together to do so. :)

[@nothingfreeanymore]

Because it has to go on and so on

[@Maco_7075]

I remember somewhere I read that Slavoj looks like a raccoon that used to live in a dumpster in the back of a library and was transformed into a human by a magical fairy. It is hilarious how every time I see this guy this thought comes back to my mind

[@johnsmith1474]

Actually no it's not so funny as it is ordinary.

[@torquemaddertorquemadder2080]

It certainly is a powerful image.

[@jorgefernandez184]

Ahahaha I was simply not prepared for this comment

[@satori-in-life]

This is the level of childish discourse in the comments. JFC the American left is absolutely inept.

[@NotaDrDoom]

once saw a clip where the top comment mentioned how he hits like a 5 point sniffle nose touch combo and now i sorta keep track while I watch him talk it's fun.

[@floreanchannel]

"And so on, and so on" - S. Žižek

[@PellikanDasein]

you know ? sniff

[@criticalLocus]

This is slowly getting old :(

[@GenteelCretin]

i have a theory that the people who comment about zizek's tics rather than literally any other part of the video are the same people who talk about how they misheard something in a conversation rather than discuss the topic itself. the negation of contribution is the popular discourse of the internet.

[@tinyf666]

​@@GenteelCretinI don't think that's a "negation of contribution", atleast not in the hegelian dialectic sense if that's how you meant it.

[@Djordj69]

he allways sais the same thing . He has one script which is mostly empty

[@yurgurtha4757]

the first 20 Seconds of Zizek already killed me, tongue out and agressive sniffing in the microphone lmao.

[@d_rooster]

After 20 years of listening to this guy it's still excruciating to do so. I guess it's a testament to him that I still do it.

[@civicspectator2573]

It's super unfortunate because it's an important point but at 10:57 he actually meant to say that it's in perversion (not hysteria) that the unconscious is most repressed, according to Freud. He says it correctly in his Oxford address posted on Nov 26, 2024.

[@gnatdagnat]

yes thank you

[@njits789]

Completely correct. Saw the Oxford address too

[@RadicalPervert]

Yea, I was very confused after that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but perverts are more repressed because they identify with the imaginary structure of the object instead of what the object actually appears as. Hysterics are less so because they lack identity and are therefore more capable of seeing past just the imaginary structure and potentially seeing the object as it really appears to be.

[@batuerincoguz810]

Bang on good catch

[@evetrue2615]

The fact that Yanis didn't correct him is quite telling!

[@lazarveljkovic584]

In the description you say "from his upbringing in the former Yugoslavia under Soviet rule". No. Yugoslavia was not part of the Soviet block. Thank you.

[@ginemginem]

Yeah. It can get really grating. Nobody ever get's that right. I would even go as far to say that it was anti-Soviet.

[@lazarveljkovic584]

@@ginemginem They were anti few years after the split (1948.) but later, once the Stalin was out of the picture, they had projects together and stuff. But still, from 1948. onwards Yugoslavia was not a part of the Soviet block. She, on the other hand, had it's own non-alignment movement from 1961.

[@TheExtremeCube]

What an embaressment

[@hansdampf640]

@@ginemginem it was not... don´t go to far when you don´t know where you´re heading...

[@mariuschirita187]

@@lazarveljkovic584 Yugoslavia differed from the rest of the eastern block in that it wasn't part in the Warsaw pact. but it can be counted as part in the Byzantine commonwealth.

[@wrathofcorn]

The host understood many things in which Zizek is an expert and it was amazing. So many talks with Zizek have a host who has absolutely no idea what Zizek is an expert on. They flounder as an overeducated communications major or whatever. who's underqualified to host an interview with Zizek. This was much better.

[@patrickdaly3628]

I highly recommend Yanis (the host) stuff on techno fuedalism and the problems with neo classical econ

[@rajasmasala]

Yanis is a heavyweight

[@Quinceps]

“The host” is a former Greece’s Minister of Finance, an activist who’s now banned by Zoinist Germany, and quite a heavyweight himself especially when it comes to Economics!

[@loredcast]

This is not a host interview situation, Yanis is his own full blown (economical) philosophical figure!

[@Waferwafermagiccracker]

Because that host is really not just a host, he's also an excellent economist. I dont agree with everything he says, but he is getting a lot of things right.

[@azliaheaven]

thank you seeing zizek and varoufakis in this dark times is always a delight 🍷

[@Enothrae]

This is the way you talk to Zizek as equal, not by showing how smart you are in your question, but just going; “what the fuck is up with Lacan man?”

[@basilistsakalos9643]

They both look great, good to see them again!

[@9000ck]

I love how Yanis tries to corral Zizek's wandering mind.

[@axelbruv]

As much as I enjoy listening to Varoufakis, I would have happily listened to Žižek for 20 minutes.

[@Jack-iv1ed]

honestly doesnt really help, I'd just rather listen to zizek rambling for longer and eventually arrive at a beautiful conclusion

[@renunciant]

It’s like trying to staple the wind

[@davidwright8432]

Herding cats; nailing fog to the wall. And such Sisyphusian metaphors. But fun!

[@ranro7371]

Talk with Will Self was hilarious. He did it, without being very nice about it.

[@ridvankahraman7944]

Someone turn up the high's on Slavoj's mic so I can hear the sniffing even better pls

[@durantguillaume5267]

Yanis, and Slavoj, you Rocks Guyz !!!!!! thanx a lot for that. 🦾🦾

[@ahmadschiller5212]

For those who think that Žižek speaks incoherently and cannot understand what he means. The truth is that philosophy is not easy for those who have not studied it, like other subjects. He does not speak for the general public, he assumes that the listener is aware of the generalities and he is usually making a reference. In addition, the philosopher's job is not to answer questions, but to raise more questions.

[@birdwalkin]

yeah when he said "JD vance has performed a perfect Lacanian intervention" and just moved on I was like "but what's a lacanian intervention" lmfao

[@musicalADD_theband]

@@birdwalkin you only understood that sentence because it didn’t have a lot of S’s in it

[@neekori91]

Yes!! 2 of my favourite speakers

[@Mbonic]

Varoufakis is the only person i have witnessed in discussion with zizek that can shut him up mid-sentences 🤔

[@nubius]

This is what I was waiting for @16:37 this "escalation problem" put in a perfect context. Thanks Zizek.

[@NobuhikuObayashi]

“A genuine sweetie pie” oh my god I love them both ❤

[@lonelycubicle]

Was relieved to hear Varoufakis say about Lacan “… who I’ve never managed to understand …” at 9:10 since he sympathizes/agrees with Zizek. If two people as intelligent as Chomsky and Varoufakis say they don’t understand an author, I will never, so no need to try. Also liked how Zizek said he reads secondary literature first.

[@salmongod9115]

"Also liked how Zizek said he reads secondary literature first." Like reading the comments on a video first, as I'm doing right now XD Can't tell you how many times I'm unsure as to whether a video might have something interesting to say... look at the comments... nope not gonna bother.

[@ashotsnkhchyan6813]

Where is part 2 ?!

[@sprobablycancr4457]

It is in the gap which opens up between the transcendental horizon of meaning and the Thing in itself.

[@tjipjoustra4359]

​@@sprobablycancr4457 😁

[@ahmetdogan5685]

@@ashotsnkhchyan6813 in the future.

[@LostinMango]

​@@sprobablycancr4457 blah blah CTMU

[@koaps_on_copium2393]

it's out now if you still care

[@kinomusic9110]

Good to see that Zizek has finally got on top of his ticks.

[@nikameqvabishvili7073]

We need part 2

[@MYTAccount]

*Slavoj Žižek and Yanis Varoufakis, two of the bests!*

[@stefannewels1823]

How I love Žižek for his style of answering a Question "why ...."" with "Because .........." That's rare in modern times

[@Julio_Hermann]

If part 2 doesn’t come soon I will get a job! Please hurry

[@dovic86]

7:29 can anyone tell me where I can find Zizek's book 'Politics and So On'?

[@D.Leikert-h9l]

It's part of Hegel and so and so

[@kylelumpkin7517]

It’s like he is on a walkie talkie that keeps clicking in and out right in the middle of the important bits.

[@zolanidingaan2511]

,🤣🤣

[@davidbarry8206]

Love to see this one.

[@jacquelinemarie6325]

cool...two of my favourite people

[@polytechnica]

Žižek moves between orthodox Marxist radicalism and a perverse conservative nostalgia, a chameleon of dialectical critique and reactionary longing.

[@joshmcilwain2427]

agree except he isnt really a standard orthodox marxist

[@Chaz31358]

Zizek is the chaturbate of philosophy.

[@bradleywilliamclarkefisher5675]

Some would say hegalian

[@mattgilbert7347]

Some might even say Stalin

[@knivgaffelskje]

And some might even say choo-choo-choo!

[@rabenvater2455]

Slavoj Žižek, the philosopher with thee cleanest nose.

[@barbadoskado2769]

do not agree with everything these guys say, but man, this is a breath of fresh air to have a powerful discussion and exchange of ideas in the spirit of the true platonic academy and aristotelean tradition - and yes Kant is responsible for Ukrainian war; totally based xD lol

[@vladbox1]

I love this intelligent banter.....

[@1991jj]

Zizeks greatest hits 🔥

[@vagnerwanilla785]

Oh yes, two of best users of the letter S in this era. Truly wholesome.

[@Tertengelos95]

Nothing less has been said with more words

[@poohdacitta69]

Apparently you have never listened to Jordan Peterson.

[@yaraalmostafa8173]

I really wish there is a virgion where he continues the ideas he was speaking 😢

[@PatrickCotter-lv7zb]

Under ‘Soviet rule’?! Are you American or just born this century?

[@grahamorandazzo5090]

They installed Tito right?

[@PatrickCotter-lv7zb]

@ in god’s name what age are you?

[@emigresanakritis9231]

​@grahamorandazzo5090 Tito installed Nazis, the serbian nationalists and the croatian fascists in their graves and then came in power.

[@badart3204]

⁠@@grahamorandazzo5090no, they didn’t. Tito took over his nation himself without being installed by either the Soviets nor Americans. This is why Stalin tried to assassinate him for not falling in line like the actual puppet leaders he installed in the rest of eastern Europe and the Americans would never tolerate a socialist puppet government

[@leudanielm]

In order for someone to have knowledge on something, do they need to be have been born in the century that it happened or was invented?

[@AnonymousFriend-i7l]

When the place we play, breathe and think within is owned by one or two corporations. Yes, the final point of part 1.

[@Bonesearch]

I'm pretty sure Zizek mixes up perversion and hysteria, as he meant to say "nowherere is the unconscious more repressed than in perversion" but says "... in hysteria" instead. He says it correctly in his talk at Oxford.

[@animefurry3508]

I think zizek miss spoke, no where is the unconscious more repressed then in a pervert, is what he ment, the hysterics are the good ones tapped into the unconscious questioning all things (big others).

[@DominicMunnellythisistheway]

Before I even watch it I’m smiling because you know you’re going to settle down to listen to Zizek

[@MolisLtu]

Janis trying to corner Žižek and Žižek is uncomfortable. Žižek is not about laying a clear program. He just philosopher, he just problematizes the question itself and so on...

[@tedl7538]

It's like watching a failing, sputtering old incandescent bulb trying to light a room in this modern age of high efficiency LEDs. Astounding💡

[@Collectivism]

ABSOLUTELY horrifying, and so on and whatever.

[@oiaeyu]

When you take out your Zizek bingo card, you always get bingo

[@DanielWhite-v4e]

speakers whose articles in my reading experience are among the most cogent in contemporary public discourse, not to worry overly regarding their books that I haven't managed to finish, because they speak wonderfully as well

[@robertjary2470]

Theres a old video ,not a long piece, featuring Yanis and Slavoz talking . Im so happy to see them together again bc it was that old piece was the reason I really got turned on to them both

[@flibflob2785]

I think that was when I first got aware of Varoufakis technofeudalism concept and we were all just waiting for him to write the book about it which wasn't there yet at that point

[@robertjary2470]

@flibflob2785 I think that could well have been it . Not a long drawn out thing but memorable for the reason you state

[@darkvalkyrie5366]

Part 2, please.

[@ywtcc]

The background state is of very high complexity. In the present, we're only interacting with a small part of it. Sometimes, it takes a long time to figure out the complexity of the background from our small interactions with it. The present is necessarily contingent, then, due to constraints on our awareness of it. And, we should not overestimate our capacity to make sense of many perspectives with one perspective.

[@joshwalker7460]

this is a lucid conception, i'd just add that recent work on the implications of bell inequalities (extended wigner's friend, 'local friendliness' constraints, etc) strongly suggest that contingency is ontological, not just epistemological.

[@ywtcc]

@@joshwalker7460 It's funny you say that, I had a similar problem on my mind when I wrote that comment. I was thinking about how to treat quantum measurements as simple thermodynamic systems. Contingency is a necessary feature of both thermodynamics and quantum mechanics, and at the point of measurement there's an interesting symmetry there. It seems to be necessary to assume contingency right from the start, or the process of isolating thermodynamic energy can't be performed. I think the primitive in object recognition is this process of isolation, and the thermodynamic energy associated with it. It's not so clear in quantum mechanics the universe is isolated much at all! There's interdependencies everywhere, by necessity.

[@joshwalker7460]

@@ywtcc these thoughts are close to my own, i strongly suspect that this line of thinking is fruitful. your last remark made me chuckle; since adolescence i've argued this to my father, a staunch engineer with a pragmatic disposition-- 'where is the evidence that the universe can be considered as a closed system?' this argument has become highly symbolic and seems strangely important. is it possible that there is some useful refinement of our basic concepts here?

[@aeonian4560]

when was this recorded

[@kllokoq]

15/11/2024

[@DanielWhite-v4e]

@@kllokoq useful and important information

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

@@kllokoq Thank you!

[@MattNolanCustom]

microseconds after it was spoken

[@NbdHrglfs336]

​@@MattNolanCustomThat's pretty funny 😂(and accurate)... I loved the precision, kid.. Keep on with the good work 👍🙌🤜🏼

[@torquemaddertorquemadder2080]

10:52 I think he meant to say: _(Freud), 'Nowhere is the unconscious more repressed, more inaccessible than in _*_Perversion.'_* [not Hysteria]

[@Sx-xy2zi]

Part 2 please

[@notgodzod]

Just to say Yanis - Hegel was not missing from our curriculum when I studied Philosophy at The University of Nottingham in the UK in the 1990s

[@bosmosis]

Listening to Zizek I am struck by how common the letter “s” really is.

[@1991jj]

Part 2 please!

[@Maxcraft12]

Don't do us like that, give us part two already 🙃

[@marianam8643]

Zizek is brilliant. It is only now that it occurred to me what the trump thing is. It is like sitting in a comedy club where half the people get the joke and half not only do not get the joke but are offended. No matter how much you try to explain the joke, the people who don’t get it, will never get it. Janis does not get it. « Trump does not understand postmodernism »…WHAT? Of course he doesn’t. That is not the point, never was. Zizek not only isn’t offended, he understands the joke. Not surprising. Zizek is still Slavic and laughing with the one who can BS the most is a national pastime.

[@EmmaYaBasta]

Can you post link to Part 2?

[@Adrian-hq5jk]

Yes, where is part 2? Please get your act together!

[@davewray9909]

We all know by now that Slavoj's rap is acoustically juicy. Please EQ his mic!

[@digitalabilia]

Žižek talking about Left is like the Queen Elizabeth talking about High Performance Programming. The guys is just stupid and takes advantage of his "I'm from Yugoslavia" past. He celebrated every single bombing in the Balkans.

[@Adam_Wegert]

It would be interesting to hear a debate between Zizek and Elitzur (quantum physicist who has very original views on the notion of time and retroaction)

[@mehdimehdikhani5899]

They are going to publish this interview in four parts one every week, aren't they?

[@tepesss]

The answer is easy Slavoj, it doesn't need a lecture: we turn them from profit oriented corporations, into mission oriented worker managed collectives. One worker one vote. But I guess there are no short answers for a Lacanian 😅

[@joshmcilwain2427]

Slavoj just aims to inspire much more radical thinking - in the broadest sense demolish thought barriers to converge on a new collaborative social relationship

[@tepesss]

@@joshmcilwain2427 Yes, I think so too. It's propaganda, basically, since there is no movement, so there is nothing much you can do. I was mostly joking though, not trying to lecture Slavoj on communism.

[@theterrible6666]

You have a mistake in your description, Yugoslavia was never "under Soviet rule".

[@jasnakolbah8016]

Where is part 2?

[@ruckzuck-m8q]

A handkerchief, a handkerchief an kingdom for a handkerchief

[@sistematikajgana1985]

Omg but Žižek piping his snot in the microphon while Yanis is introducing him 😂😂😂😂😂

[@axelnilsson2031]

If part 2 doesnt come soon I will become a Julius Evolian

[@michafrica]

The working class has embraced the digital age, showcasing remarkable technological skills and adaptability. As we navigate the modern job market, it's vital to empower ourselves through continuous learning and growth. Together, we have the opportunity to shape our future and seek representation that aligns with our aspirations. If innovative leaders promise lower taxes and streamlined processes, the working class can unite and make a powerful choice for progress. The rest is talk of forgotten leftists.

[@jps0117]

Now that this encounter has happened, the universe can end.

[@lenzplay8445]

Hell yes!

[@janicemarsh1669]

Oh yes we do!

[@mdbergfeld]

Varoufakis' face is a give away haha

[@forughsemadeni8517]

Where is part 2

[@njits789]

2:26 "This country" is which country?

[@autisimo369]

uk

[@Sara-lk2yr]

Because of speech problems It is very difficult for me to understand Zizek... I enjoy his thoughts only if I can calmly read them.😢

[@marcoversfeld]

Intense!

[@FYGOKENTROSS]

Where did this event take place?

[@Domo_arrigato]

A handkerchief, anyone? A kingdom for a handkerchief!

[@robertjulius2440]

where is part 3 and 4 lol, how did you get this but split it up like this?

[@kostisv]

Where is this taking place?

[@Mr.Mjuperson]

Where the heck are you though?

[@Aragorn-87]

Interesting

[@Cyberphunkisms]

10:00 zizek is my actual prof; he is wrong about this point; the hysteria is the response to the hivemindidioms, the hivemindidioms are not hysterical "dusk of minerva" point. for a critique of zizek, see my work "carrying over the burdens of trace"

[@tugilevy8139]

This is a perfect example of how form prevails over content - how history and sense are made after the fact. The abrupt ending is more meaningful than the schizoid discussion. lol

[@shamanicrevolution2204]

Zizek embodies counterintuitive philosophy. .

[@CharlieBabbitt1988]

This was something.

[@Bagatellamusic]

In high demand: Žižek-de-esser.

[@valmaius]

In the ONLY way ❤

[@PellikanDasein]

What is the real element in this case ?

[@whataboutthis10]

Not at all about 'getting Trump', that is about 'getting the appeal of Trump'. Also, a lot of the left gets it. Liberals don't

[@obsidianjane4413]

Liberals absolutely "get Trump". Its the right, esp. "conservatives" in America who don't really understand Trump. They think he "says mean things but freedom and stuff". Hopefully they don't learn the hard way just what electing a tyrant means.

[@srbosoft]

- Let the gladiators to the arena! - But, master, they're Varuoufakis and Zhizhek... - Never mind. We will let the rhinos later. This is just a warm up.

[@NicholasNicoli]

the only man to shut Yiannis up :)

[@Mazdak1986]

where is part two? WHERE IS PART TWO??????