Richard Stallman Talks About Ubuntu

[@marcduperron6062]

I am an experienced Linux user, and just between you and me, I am not using the Search Feature in Ubuntu - I have no need for it. I use Google to get spied on instead.

[@AccessCode101]

hahhahahahhahhhaha good one.

[@idvistream]

@@tachobrenner yes, ddg = duckduckgo

[@HarshaSuranjith]

Good one :D

[@dravifo6762]

I like the way I get abused by Google better too. They just know how to do it.

[@WR3ND]

Google isn't the OS here though, and if you set up your browser the way you might otherwise want to, you can at least contain and limit the extent to which Google spies on you and tracks you. It's kind of apples and oranges in that respect.

[@kennedn]

It's worth noting the search feature Richard is speaking about has been removed since Ubuntu 16.04, presumably after significant community backlash.

[@vladimirberezhnev8124]

*9 yr ago*

[@Yep6803]

Linux Mint and pop! Os have fixed whole the cons of Ubuntu, that's it. Now, seriously talking, he is really destroying everything. 1) he is destroying GNU and GPL, I don't hate stand alone FSF comunity but I hate Stallman's version 2) I hate his lovers, yeah he created GNU that's the GNU-Linux operative software since Linux is just a kernel but the rest is done by someone else 3) he is an horrible person, as a woman he is unrespectful 4) I can go on and on...I love Linus Torvalds and it is sad that himself is hating GPL v3

[@SatanIsTheLord]

Doesnt change the fact that Ubuntu is shitty distribution.

[@ArimaSenne1]

yep ubuntu is fine nowadays. only questionable thing is snap(optional) and systemd(not optional)

[@SatanIsTheLord]

@@ArimaSenne1 but ubuntu community is shittiest of them all....

[@ItsRainmakingTime]

No matter what anyone thinks of him, he is making a massive contribution to public awareness on a vast and detailed level. It took me all of these years to really get it and only because I have taken the time to listen, learn and dig into this area of our daily lives. Thank God for him and others who are with him.

[@Dionydejesus]

You got it!! it's totally truth!! I was in the same position before. Kudos to you my friend 👍

[@CantSeemToThink]

He's doing that cause he's often on low bandwidth networks (he's traveling a lot) and this way he does not waste time watching the browser spinning, it's his choice why do you care? Also why do you say he wants all of us work the same way?

[@CantSeemToThink]

I don't even know how to reply to such a foolish comment :P

[@Beefforyou]

And emailing a link to a bot, to wait for it to download and send back... is somehow faster than going to the URL? He doesn't do it for speed reasons, he does it for privacy reasons.

[@kawserahmmed3314]

urine bangla

[@christopherochsenreither1497]

Most of the people here criticizing Richard Stallman weren't even born when he started the free software movement. At that time, no software was free. Operating systems were proprietary closed-source owned by either large corporations or the government. So it's pretty hard for them to imagine a world where they couldn't go out and download free OS's or applications. But Stallman grew up in that world. Therefore, it's hard for the critics here to even understand where he's coming from. It's hard for them to empathize with someone who sees trends threatening to erode the world we live in now, which he fought for but the critics here didn't fight for.

[@worldhello1234]

" It's hard for them to empathize with someone who sees trends threatening to erode the world we live in now, which he fought for but the critics here didn't fight for." Yeah, proprietary software is really a world eroding event. :D

[@technowey]

Christopher Ochsenreither - I'm only three years younger than Richard Stallman, but when he started the Gnu open source movement in 1983, I'd been programming for many years. Open source is a good thing. However, his idea that proprietary software is antisocial and unethical is absurd, and wrong. He had money, so he doesn't have to work. Essentially, he's a software socialist. However, I recognize he's done some good. And, I've released some software under the MIT license, which is even less-restrictive, and thus more free than the Gnu license. However, I've written other software I might sell someday. It takes time to write software, and I need money to survive. No person should be forced by others to work for free - and to even claim it's unethical to be paid for work is an absurdity. Capitalism is the only system ever to bring half the world out of poverty to the middle class in my lifetime. And, while Stallman has done much good for the software community, he's not helping the poor.

[@jngroelae]

@@technowey Free software is about freedom, not price. Of course, people are allowed to redistribute this software (without asking for money) and that sounds like nobody's going to buy the program in the end. But if you look at proprietary software, then you realize that they actually have exactly the same problem ... At least I don't know anyone who has ever bought, for example, Adobe products.

[@technowey]

jngroelae - Adobe sells some content-creation tools. There is a lot of commercial software that should be purchased. Violating the license is theft. Your right that some companies give some software for free, but not all their software. People need money to survive. Gnu software is not free though. You don't have to pay for it, but a user is bound by the terms of the license. I have written some open source software. I use the MIT license. The only term for that is that the license header is not modified or removed. The Gnu license is much more encumbered than that.

[@2218_life]

@@technowey yin and yang

[@b00i00d]

Thank you Stallman for fighting to keep our eyes open and our minds free for decades now!

[@MyAmazingUsername]

Yeah it's hard to believe that Stallman was only 29 years old in this video.

[@xtopced]

​@@MyAmazingUsernamewhet? He was like 60

[@yesh420]

@@xtopced nope, he was 29. the video released when he was 30 tho

[@clifforddurbin5168]

@@xtopcedcrazy isn’t it

[@rock00dom]

Although I find myself disagreeing with Mr Stallman more often than not, I cannot deny the positive impact his work has had on my life.

[@TheLemonMasterYT]

Dr. Stallman. Normally I hate correcting people like this because its stupid but the man has 15 DOCTORATES

[@xinfinity4756]

@@TheLemonMasterYT curious about that, can you provide a source and or list?

[@Yep6803]

he started a project not done it, say thanks to devs trust me...there's bilion of more important people next to him! even steve wozniak did more to open suorce than him, even apple is better than him. Gpl v3 is destroying everything as his egocentric vision of fsf! Marshall Kirk McKusick is far more important than stallman and nobody know him(and he is why you can use a Gnu-Linux, a MacOS since everything is based upon BSD softwares and operative system and they literally took Unix to us). kirk is also married with allman tha is the one who took e-mails to us and they are also lgbtq+ activists...so, i'm sorry, he isn't so important to me. so, no, Stallman worth quite little compared to many others.

[@Yep6803]

@@TheLemonMasterYT doctorates worth little outside USA

[@Yep6803]

he is hating Apple because was able to do what he wasnt

[@jackkraken3888]

Microsoft: "Yeah not good at all, all that spyware." [sweats profusely]

[@manticore4952]

It's all spyware these days, and Open Source software powers most of it. You use Google or KZbin or Social Media or Gmail, all those free online tools, pastes etc. Everything has become spyware now.

[@artemisDev]

@@manticore4952 free != open_source

[@shallex5744]

@@manticore4952 good thing Richard Stallman has nothing to do with Open Source

[@piadas804]

@@manticore4952 Microsoft has some open source software, and Windows is shared source.

[@theairaccumulator7144]

@@piadas804 Remember the VS Code shitfuckery? Peak of open source Microsoft code.

[@bALDbOY85]

ga nuu slash linox system

[@thefear420]

linox

[@seth817]

That's the cool way of saying it.

[@DrathVader]

cananicol

[@hermannpaschulke1583]

Ashfly actually the right pronounciation

[@Pete133]

Does he say linox that way because he wants it to sound less like Linus? I do feel for him... he usually doesn't get enough credit and recognition for his work with gnu... I wonder if he says unox...

[@1408kishan]

This guy deserves more respect.

[@KingdomofSmileys]

Kishan Menghrajani Why? What exactly is immoral about proprietary software? That you can't change the source code? The source code belongs to the creator and therefore the creator should decide whether or not people can view and change it. There is not slavery going on here. If you don't like a proprietary piece of software just use an alternative. It isn't evil.

[@highflier7762]

KingdomofSmileys You're such an obvious shill. Ubuntu is spyware and that is intolerable. They need to be shut down completely.

[@KingdomofSmileys]

High Flier Because Amazon tracks what you search for? What search engine DOESN'T do that? And anyways, you can disable that in settings.

[@highflier7762]

"What search engine DOESN'T do that?" Search engines that aren't completely evil. There are a handful of them out there. "And anyways, you can disable that in settings." That point was answered by Stallman himself in the video.

[@KingdomofSmileys]

High Flier It was, but the point still stands, you can disable that in settings. And even if you don't want to do that you can just use a different OS. It's not like you're a slave to Ubuntu once you install it, if you don't like it you can just uninstall it and try something else. Ubuntu isn't 'evil' and proprietary software isn't 'evil'.

[@impolitedirector3595]

I have nothing but respect for this man, he has made huge contributions to the FOSS world.

[@peteruelimaa4973]

Maybe look up his views on sexual relations with minors.

[@flemtone]

The 'Amazon' filter was part of the Unity desktop, since that was removed for gnome3, and the other Ubuntu varients that use XFCE, LXQT and KDE, they no longer have this installed.

[@Wahinies]

Ah answered my question because I love xubuntu

[@lucidumluxbrightlight6747]

This man is a real revolutionary, such a philanthropist, a true hero that fights, without any need, for everybody's freedom. Thank you Mr Stallman for your existence and tenacious guindance, thank you for teaching us firmly resist against oppresors like bloody Microsoft and other thieves.

[@gregh5061]

I don't care what he said about women and Epstein. He's still a genius

[@SnLeo-zx6qy]

​@@milfex-lostex3984 of course he does. It's a religion

[@random6033]

He said "GNU+Linux" in the first 30 seconds, I'm not disappointed

[@homeontherange733]

Thank you Richard Stallman for your GNU for without there would be no linux. Thanks to Linus Torvalds for Linux.

[@mannhansen9337]

Thanks to Prof. Tanenbaum for Minix. Without Minix no Linux.

[@manojj1544]

@@mannhansen9337 Thanks Ken Thompson and Denis Rithie(may be not) then!!!!

[@o.aggelos]

@@manojj1544 Just thank the entire universe for existing don't make it too complicated

[@manojj1544]

@@o.aggelos Which exact universe? and maybe you want to respond to chayan not me. My answer was very specific to Hansen as compared to your wannabe's answer.

[@Subuzgreatest]

@@manojj1544 And thank Brian Fox for the bash shell, with which Linux is being maintained everyday.

[@wander__1]

My first distro, like many, was ubuntu and now I'm learning to use Arch Linux. Their wiki is fairly comprehensive.

[@lol-dm8wx]

I did too. I use arch now by the way

[@g00zik97]

my first distro was manjaro and then i tried installing debian, but it was too much hassle. i use arch now btw

[@adfinemrising]

my first was kali linux, i use arch now btw

[@OkarinHououinKyouma]

I use arch also btw

[@ProfShibe]

still ubuntu on my desktop but laptop is arch + hyprland + nvim (btw)

[@YeeRattakornY]

I have never known he was such so much care about the users, very impressive. Thanks for everything you have done.

[@yaboi-km2qn]

I think he's got his own moral agenda more than caring for consumers.

[@hardbrocklife]

@@yaboi-km2qn most do, but one is certainly worse than the other. There is no perfect morality amongst humankind.

[@nahiyanalamgir7056]

@@yaboi-km2qn Who cares? All we need is awareness - why someone is helping doesn't really matter unless we get personal.

[@krissisk4163]

I have great respect for Stallman, but there is one view he has that I simply can't get behind. He believes that it's unethical to have an OS that allows the installation of non-free software because that deprives the user of freedom. However, if I, as a knowledgeable geek aware of the pros and cons of free and non-free software, decide that I want to accept the problems that come with running a piece of proprietary software and my OS tells me that I can't....then isn't that OS depriving me of the freedom to choose? Freedom is about more than avoiding copyrights and patents that put limits on what you can do. It's about empowering the user to use the system as they see fit. And, yes, sometimes that means that a user who is knowledgeable should be able to give up a little bit of freedom to tinker with the software and choose to run proprietary software that does what they want.

[@pip0109]

+Kris Sisk abso-fukin-lutely and thats why he is nothing but an angry old troll

[@krissisk4163]

Eric Lalonde Except for one very big problem with that entire argument: non-free software is only a problem if you intend to modify it or if you don't trust it. When it gets right down to it I'm not going to use software from someone I don't trust, free or not (this is why I don't use Ubuntu), and if a program already works very well for what I want to do then the inability to customize its source code is not a problem (this is why I use Sublime Text).

[@chrystals.4376]

Everything free is great in theory, but he's not attacking the root issues, which are structural. I might end up using an Ubuntu variant anyway, but it's not because I'm some shallow person who like convenience, and attacking people for personal preferences is not going to change the tech industry. He can complain about closed source all he wants, but it will win out unless maybe a new economic order is finally in place, whenever that will be.

[@worldhello1234]

"He believes that it's unethical to have an OS that allows the installation of non-free software because that deprives the user of freedom. " Yes, having the choice to not have a choice, deprives people of having a choice. Do you spot the circular reasoning?

[@MsJavaWolf]

Without people like him there would probably be no free software at all. If you give up your freedom companies will take more and more.

[@vaughnkenny3643]

Richard Stallman is a revolutionary individual with an unbelievable insight. Without his influence in the modern computing world we would be on a very different plane of technology. We should all take his advice as a fundamental truth and as a working path we should all follow. There should be many more like Richard Stallman and we should all count ourselves as fortunate for his willingness to bring light to an otherwise dark and increasingly corrupt world.

[@SirBenjiful]

"We should all take his advice as a fundamental truth" That is not a healthy attitude to have towards any individual, and I doubt Stallman would want it.

[@Zack-xz1ph]

3: 29 great choice for font color

[@k.c.sunshine1934]

I appreciate Richard's policy to support free and secure internet without forcing others to "eat crow."

[@learnshare]

The meaning is... he is talking the truth!

[@andychow5509]

rms is a genius. He's also not a practical person. He still wants to ditch the Linux Kernel, eventually. Whenever L4/Hurd starts to work, cough cough. I heard it almost works in 32-bit single core systems. It boots, and almost does something, before deadlocking itself and crashing. Only 26 years of development so far.

[@mrdarky3377]

Andy Chow We need more contributors. We'll get there.

[@RedHairdo]

I have no faith in the Hurd, but I hope he GNU Hurd devs will prove me wrong. We still have Linux-libre, at least. That should be perfectly fine AFAIK.

[@annekedebruyn7797]

@TweniThree Speedruns /watch?v=8BDm88o94nk TL;DW dude thinks beastiality, necrophilia, pedophilia and prostitution is basically all on the same line and believes that they it should be allowed to at the very least own it without risking any form of punishment.

[@Dr_MKUltra]

@@ClockworkRBLX no evidence for that. Marvin Minksy was a genius and a great scientist. You throw the hard work and lifetime achievements of a man simply because one person says so without a shred of proof or hard evidence.

[@avatarmanz]

So is he making his own kernel? Any developments?

[@shaakunthala]

I understand that open source software projects also need money to survive. But what RMS says is correct. Ubuntu is letting Amazon to spy on people in an unnecessary manner. Cloud services is a decent source of income. Donations too OK. But letting some third party to spy on is not.

[@_tsu_]

IT HAD WEB SEARCH IN UNITY CANONICAL CHOSE AMAZON AS SEARCH PROVIDER AMAZON GETS THE TERMS USER SEARCHED IN UNITY was it a bad move? definitely. spyware? no searching the web from system search is a standard feature in both mac and windows and it's convenient af i have a search engine on Gnome right now but I'm using DuckDuckGo so that's ok

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

They get used by AWS as well, this is penny-pinching at it's finest and at the cost of privacy for their users. Include proprietary drivers and software, not ads and company banners, treat your users with respect and not like a billboard for onlookers.

[@didacusa3293]

I’d just like to interject for a moment open-soyce is a dev model to get free labor free software is what rms talks about

[@yannbane]

It's not even convenient, the search feature is probably one of the least usable components of Ubuntu (13.10).

[@avatarmanz]

This is a dumb question and super late but has the Search feature of Ubuntu changed in any way? And what other ways would you search for things rather than using something like the "ls" command piping to a grep filter or something? I'm a very novice user of Linux myself so this is an honest question. I'm using Pop_OS as my daily driver. Thanks.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

@@wolfgangzeintl6425 So It's a local hard drive search? Or does it still send data over the internet?

[@Glace1221]

PC Jesus here flippin tables, aid, "Get that spyware crap out of my church."

[@jamallmahmoudi9481]

The world is become beautiful with people like Stallman and so on. Unfortunately, this new generation has not yet realized the greatness of the free software movement.

[@troler7147]

or libre movement

[@TK-sh1lq]

The software was free (libre and beer) before Stallman... He only continues preaching to keep it that way. Don't give credit where it isn't due, but respect and credit him for GPL and GPLv2. Those are fundamentals for today's free software.

[@TheRealHelvetica]

Every word that comes from this man's mouth liberates me.

[@user-tl4fi6oy8d]

lol you aren't liberated from anything, you hero-worshipping weeb. Grow up.

[@lincolnsand5127]

@@user-tl4fi6oy8d why are you being such a bitch?

[@roland3578]

@@user-tl4fi6oy8d shut up pussy

[@kyokokirigiri100]

it's called hyperbole

[@_tsu_]

that didn't age well😂

[@MaherBaba]

I want this video to be played on my funeral

[@MaherBaba]

I just got to see this man live, my dream come treue

[@eternaldamnation2179]

It's impenetrable.

[@andrewcool4548]

Why ?

[@andrewcool4548]

@@MaherBaba this man is a liar.

[@helkat9876]

@@pspvita99 wow, I haven't even read this ,but like wow, where did you get all that time to write this thing

[@sauwanejamesmakgakge5550]

Open source is really for the computer programmers, only they will enjoy freedom. we only enjoy the lovely software they write for us. whether its free or purchased, we enjoy it the same. Our debates the users is always "what works for us non programmers". The debates between software engineers will always be there to determine what is best for us, but at the end of the day freedom is always defined from their perspective.

[@komitikki]

Freechard stallman

[@kingonduty2825]

"ITS GNU/LINUX BECAUSE RICHARD STALLMAN SAID SO"

[@mossfoobar8322]

Praise our father and prophet Richard stallman

[@ericsmith9293]

ACCUTALLY IT'S GNU/LINUX, ubuntu (and most other distributions) uses many of GNU softwares from the base ones (grub, bash, coreutils, tar,..), toolchain(GNU make, gcc, glibc, gdb,...) and other softwares like gnome, gimp, gtk, gparted, nano, etc Linux is just the kernel so it's the GNU softwares that make your operating system an operating system

[@elfo1799]

Simply true. What's the point ?

[@jawad9757]

@@elfo1799 because people like to point it out all the time to the point that it's obsessive and annoying

[@AbhimanyuAryan]

can't we use gnome on ubuntu rather than unity? Problem fixed.

[@SupaKoopaTroopa64]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[@skeggjoldgunnr3167]

+Abhimanyu Aryan Before this spy feature of Unity was commonly known, I downloaded and installed *the* default Ubuntu...saw Unity....said "no. I think I only want windowmaker, maybe XFCE4 at the most"...within 5 minutes, I had set up firewall (default install has none). I had watched processes using network interface. I said "wha?..." So. Xubuntu with a firewall and no dial-home happening for me.

[@MohammedAbualgassim]

+Abhimanyu Aryan This is what I am using on my computer ubuntu + gnome But I think he meant that Linux users should not face such issues

[@Vanessinha91Pucca]

+Abhimanyu Aryan Yea but his point is that they shouldn't do it on the first place. It show how the corporation mentality from Microsoft is getting inside Linux now.

[@warrenbrandt2572]

+Abhimanyu Aryan cant you install gnome on ubuntu?

[@futonchild]

Who is this person using Ubuntu desktop search?

[@blackbelttt]

This is a great man!

[@enmimaquinaandaba]

That was until 16.04. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@guyvermutronics4582]

Yes after 16.04 you have the option to monitor what data is being sent aor if any data will be sent at all.

[@mjp29]

I'm a Richard Stallman fan, but I also use Ubuntu. I'm glad that Ubuntu removed Amazon from their O.S., but I'm sure that Ubuntu still has spyware baked into the O.S. I guess I'm compromising my freedom to have the convenience that Stallman talks against. When it comes to coding and command lines in terminal, I'm nearly an absolute newbie - so I guess that's why I have to compromise my "freedom" to have the convenience of just having an O.S. to work that isn't Microsoft or Apple.

[@nahiyanalamgir7056]

I'm pretty sure people look into Ubuntu's code to check for malicious parts all the time. As for Richard, his job is to warn people. For example, he warned about Ubuntu deceiving users (at least prior to 16.04). After knowing this, the decision is on the user whether to use the product or not. I think it's absolutely fine to use Microsoft, Apple, and Canonical products despite knowing that they steal data. It's awareness that we need that a lot of people wouldn't know otherwise.

[@michalsvihla1403]

Why not use Linux Mint then? It's based on Ubuntu, has the whole newbie friendly going for it and it doesn't spy on you.

[@Bhamilton-ws4go]

...I'm watching this on Ubuntu.

[@drewerving7428]

I'm sorry.

[@Zack-xz1ph]

Lubuntu

[@drewerving7428]

Yeah if you're a dumb fuck. And seeing how much of a shit stain the southeastern united states is on the rest of us i cant really say shocked.

[@graysonthacker7900]

@@drewerving7428 Nice attitude. You think you're making the US look good?

[@MrHatoi]

I'm using Ubuntu just as an intermediary while I learn to use GNU/Linux. Once I have enough experience and I'm confident I know what I'm doing I plan on switching to Arch.

[@benedikt5974]

Beeing fed up with proprietory software I started trying Ubuntu. Installed in a VM, started it, did a search and was shocked. Never seen commercial non-free software beeing THAT invasive. Deleted the VM, tried Debian and love it! Hope to be able to move it from VM to native soon - still need to learn more.

[@龗]

native yet?

[@benedikt5974]

@@龗 No, but it is so long ago that I do not remember what the reason was. Something must have been too complicated or something did not work - I don't remember.

[@senatuspopulusqueromanum]

@@benedikt5974nah bro try again

[@Rotceev]

Are there some freedom focused distros you would recommend mr Stallman? In opposition to those "convenience only" distros?

[@eglvoland4162]

Trisquel GNU/Linux. Based on Ubuntu, I use it every day.

[@random6033]

Gentoo

[@arnaudsm]

Stallman was right, Canonical got even worse since. Snap, motd, Ubuntu pro making security patches paid.. I'm switching distros

[@garthok6224]

I stop using Ubuntu like 5 years ago because of the Amazon stuff, I started using Fedora, and now Manjaro. Thanks Richard for all you do

[@julesmay5861]

Doesn't Fedora have the SELinux which is considered "spyware"

[@t3hNinj0r]

Does anyone have a link to document shown at 1:32?

[@DanielWesleyKCK]

Stallman's greatest strength and his greatest weakness is his unflinching idealism. Idealism works until it doesn't.

[@keen2419]

We need also people like him tbh, some people too hard on him.

[@solinovo3219]

It works when there are no egos present, the ego will however say things like "it is just idealism, we can't possibly get there, we all suck, it is just human nature" that is the ego's way to justify staying in an infantile state where fear us the driver of all it's actions including not wanting to mature into spirituality. But I've seen people change, it is not impossible my friend, each one of us has to take responsibility for getting there and helping those who aren't there yet, only then will we all be able to see the world with a clearer vision unclouded by judgement.

[@stratmaster921]

Aren't those the greatest pioneers? The bold and unwavering idealists that have no qualms about being tied to the stake and lit ablaze.

[@TearsAnonymous]

So, what distro is clear from sypwares? :-)

[@ei0119]

Arch

[@TearsAnonymous]

How about Fedora? How free is it?

[@addygreen8919]

+Tears Anonymous I don't worked with Fedora but I think it's a distro by RadHat and they watch what problems the user get with new programs to fix this problems before they add the new programs to their commercial distro for big firms. Distros like Fedora or Debian are free but it's easy to install and use nonfree programs. So the FSF don't like them ;-)

[@Veronica-bd9fq]

OpenBSD

[@shater1164]

OpenBSD isn't a distro alike Linux(GNU/Linux) has so many and it's totally different OS, cheers.

[@felipediaz2311]

Thank you for your service Stallman.

[@GergiH]

It's so funny some of you think you're "safe" just because you use some random ass linux distro and noname softwares, yet just by commenting here, having an account, having an email address, google collects data from you too :)

[@d-leb]

@Reunite The British Empire Yeah ... but ... you're posting on Google right now. That was the point he was making.

[@CoWinkKeyDinkInc]

RMS didn't upload this idiot lmfao jesus christ you people

[@d-leb]

@@CoWinkKeyDinkInc I think you misunderstood what you hit reply on. We weren't talking about RMS, we were talking about the people posting in the comments of this video. - The people who are commenting here obviously don't care at all about their own privacy as they are already on the Google platform.

[@philsose4844]

@henry stevens oooh i got one you hate landlords yet you pay the rent. socialist owned

[@animangovideo7375]

yeah. Also, a random dude that watches me walk on the street can "collect data about me". Im find with the data i give google by using youtube, but google doesnt know the things i search online, the things i watch on other sites etc.. (i cancel trackers and use a vpn). My phone is the only exception, but hopefully soon this will be solved as well.

[@floflodu]

Thank you Mr. Stallman for your analysis !

[@G33KN3rd]

I should say that alot of what Ubuntu does in terms of tracking CAN be disabled but I think that Stallman is right and these features should be disabled by default.

[@firsfnamelastname8490]

Did not know that, thx!

[@美久斗瑠]

2:05 "porn"

[@aakashsinha9641]

That is why i use linux

[@FarhanHafizh]

👁️👄👁️

[@Esuashu1]

Haha

[@peacemekka]

daayum boi.

[@valveman12]

I have never tried Luna yet. Thanks for the tip. Yes Lubuntu works really well for older computers. Gives them new life. Especially the old single cores.

[@MESYETI]

i just use Debian and LXDE on my 14 year old laptop

[@aeroscience9834]

To my knowledge, these spyware features are no longer on Ubuntu, correct?

[@adamsalt4226]

Yup

[@abdullahal-shimri3091]

True. I use Ubuntu and have no problems.

[@pxnchx93]

If all software must be free, from where will the money to pay for the infrastructure and developers etc would come?

[@nanopone]

there are ways to make money from software that isn't mistreating the user and forcing them to pay money for it. free as in freedom, not free as in beer.

[@pxnchx93]

@@nanopone 1) such as? (maybe, in gaming for example, well earned DLC as opposed to predatory micro transactions?) 2) is this the Linus/Stallman etc. philosophy?

[@nanopone]

@@pxnchx93 the main way is developing for clients. clients pay you to make a piece of software and you release the code under a free license to the client and whoever else. there's also donations yes thats the stallman philosophy

[@pxnchx93]

@@nanopone thank you

[@moddedcomputers]

Thank You Kind Sir, I've promply removed this crap from my machine.

[@thehardstylepromoter5687]

1:01 having 1-2% non-free software doesn't make an entire OS non-free

[@khrisscortez]

I'd like to hear RS opinion about the Chinese Deepin.

[@KenMikaze]

He'd love that!

[@speedplane]

Stallman is such a hero. I generally want tech businesses to succeed, but he is the one true moral light in the tech world that grounds all of our assumptions.

[@_Epictetus_]

Does Richard have a place that we can view videos on his talks?

[@Givemeafinname]

I hate the name Ubuntu, I hate the desktop. I hated saying "Ubuntu" every time someone asked "What OS are you using?"..I went to mint because it doesn't sound like the UN is coming to occupy my hard drive.

[@aspiringlich]

It takes all of a few seconds to turn off the amazon thing. Would I rather it not be there to begin with? Yes. Am I going to abandon Ubuntu over it? Not a chance.

[@imadsyed9537]

There was an ad for this video!!! : (

[@garvit8015]

2:07 Holy Shit!!!! Ubuntu knows about my porn stash.

[@EndUser2090]

Does "Ubuntu Mate 14.04" contain this spyware feature Richard Stallman is talking about?

[@KiyoSimp]

Yes

[@joeffelfaelnar8615]

No. The issue here is Unity's Lenses which queries Canonical's servers for matching results based on your input, practically sending data to them. Mate does not do this. In Canonical's defense, this feature can be disabled. With the release of Ubuntu 14.10, this feature is disabled by default, like Stallman said in the video.

[@Romactu]

Canonical did remove spyware since Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Yes, some people didn't have a problem with Amazon features on Ubuntu but probably Canonical was forced to remove those features for a security reasons.

[@coolworx]

Is there such a thing as a secure system when connected to the DARPA-net? Huxley was right, our imprisonment will come packaged in bright shiny foil. A mesmerizing effect, that leaves us docile and complacent... Hey, the new I-blah is out!

[@cybermaxpower]

Its the Ubuntu Unity Desktop that can Spy. In 16.04 the amazon search is now turn off by default.

[@kevinmcgovern188]

+CyberMaxPower It should not even be there in the first place, how is this thing free if you are paying with your data?? My main problem with data collection and usage is that its my data, if anyone should get paid for it then it should be me.

[@thatoneuser5066]

Totally true, use Debian

[@kevinmcgovern188]

areeb1296 Its Ubuntu itself that has privacy issues, same with its variants, Zorin is based on Ubunutu with a different desktop and had the same issues, data collection turned on by default. It was worst in 14.04, they changed it after that. Not sure how it is now but they are a big company not at all in the spirit of Linux or Gnu, I would use another distro. Manjaro is quite good and based on ArchLinux so its much more up to date, ots also got every desktop and 10 or 12 kernels available for hardware needs.

[@cybermaxpower]

+areeb1296 Just in Unity. other ubuntu flavours are fine imo.

[@kevinmcgovern188]

CyberMaxPower It was in all Ubuntu versions, here is Zorin they use a modified Gnome desktop zoringroup.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=6479&p=30874&hilit=privacy+security+issue#p30874 Ubuntu is a company like windows in it for profit, Linux and Gnu don't see them as real Linux distros any more, there are other distro just as easy to use I would try them first, it doesn't need to be Arch or Gentoo. Manjaro or Debian are great for new users and Manjaro is much more up to date than either Debian or Ubuntu. I had no trouble going from Debian based to Manjaro.

[@traxooza]

From Wikipedia: Convenient procedures, products and services are those intended to increase ease in accessibility, save resources (such as time, effort[1] and energy) and decrease frustration. Can anyone explain me why my convenience shouldn't be the main priority of software developers?

[@kijetesantakalu]

Of course he's right about the privacy part, but about the "non-free programs": Ubuntu was a perfect way for me to explore Linux. Sometimes lack of freedom can be helpful.

[@rydohg]

I'm all for open source software but I'll use proprietary software if it is better (but it usually isn't)

[@musabalbirair]

ubuntu is the most supported distro with the most software available in the linux world. what would be a good alternative for it?

[@jorgeayalaarce7712]

Juntemos voces para que el Sr. Linus Torvalds y Sr. Richard stallman sea nominado para recibir el reconocimiento de la Unesco como " La ciencia al servicio de la sociedad ", me parece que el aporte que el hizo para la gente es digno de un gran reconocimiento, soy un suario del grandioso Linux.

[@SymbianSyMoh]

Respect.

[@FranciscoValenzuela92]

It is a fact that it does come by default the option of search informing canonical but you can turn it off.

[@jeschinstad]

It's important that everyone understands that the bug he's referring to was closed a very long time ago. It was never malicious and it was never spyware. Remember, one of the reasons Richard Stallman really hates Ubuntu, is because we allow people to use proprietary drivers, Flash plugins, etc. He says he cannot use KZbin because it uses proprietary video codecs and the HTML, CSS and JavaScript isn't marked as Free Software. So the irony is that anyone who watches this video, cannot be in agreement with Stallman. And if you're not, then you can safely use Ubuntu. :)

[@woozyadel9476]

I agree with you 👌

[@guyfawkes9951]

The best distro I've ever used was Enlightenment, but it's no longer being supported or updated. I used Ubuntu quite a while but somewhere along the line they lost track of themselves and turned into bloatware. My last two machines have been Win7 and Win10. Yeah, they are pretty awful as far as what they share but I go out of my way to stop or decrease that as much as possible. I attempted to dual boot the new machine and it was a non-starter right out of the gate. No support for the video card, no support for sound on a second Win10 laptop I was given. I love the idea of free/open source but even more I like the idea of the machine working without me having to constantly struggle against the limits of the OS.

[@pounet2]

The online search feature is disabled since version 16.04 (i.e. 2015). Maybe Stallman has something to do with it.

[@svenniepennie4237]

From the thumbnail I though I'd be seeing King Robert of the house Baratheon talking about Ubuntu.

[@Magnus_Loov]

I think him insisting of using "GNU/Linux" is ridiculous. They are just a very small part of a distro nowadays and sometimes not at all as in the case of Android. Besides, what makes the naming of an operating system? In the case of Windows it isn't the kernal. It isn't some extra tools or some thing in between the kernel and the GUI. It is the GUI, the Windowing system. For others, like OSX or NeXT Step it is just some generic name that either has something to do with the system or nothing at all (just sounds good). I mean, if we are going to name a system after the important parts it would be a long list for a distro. Like "Linux Gnu Wayland Xfce Aptitude".

[@raghavgupta1157]

Here we are! We, watching this video on "KZbin" and concern about freedom.

[@snackman94]

You can always turn off the Amazon stuff.

[@cagatay518]

You can always think that you turn off the stuff.

[@snackman94]

@@cagatay518 I guess it's a good think that I switched over to Debian a couple years ago.

[@cagatay518]

@@snackman94 sorry , i did not notice the date :)

[@jadenpeterson2460]

I agree with Richard Stallman's philosophy of open source software, but I don't like how persistant and consistant he is. I completely prefer open source over proprietary, but when it comes to the user experience, I don't mind using proprietary software/codecs/drivers, etc. I agree with his reasoning for saying "GNU/LInux", but he is so FREAKING PERSISTENT about it. I bet you if I talked about Linux with him, the first thing he would say is to call it GNU/Linux.

[@feuooo]

Actually, yeah he would

[@jadenpeterson2460]

Because I don't want someone correcting me every time I say Linux, and he talks about freedom. Well then give me the fucking freedom to use some proprietary software too, and say what I want!

[@Peter-bg1ku]

Someone has to stay consistent

[@xwinglover]

Richard's persistence is for 'free' software which is defined differently to 'open source'.

[@AgentBaphomet1255]

Richard Stallman is an idealist. This is just kinda who he is. He doesn't agree with making compromise when it comes to freedom. While I agree with his sentiments, you want to be as free as you can be in every sense of the word, but when it comes to the real world, you have to be willing to compromise to make things work. There is some freedom I simply don't care about and I would be willing to bet for many people it's the same. Spying on users without them being aware isn't a good thing. However, personally if it's only for advertisement and no human being but me knows about what I'm doing I am ok with it.

[@MasterStroke.]

Which distro Stallman recomends?

[@MasterStroke.]

***** It is very similar to ubuntu. He also uses a FREE-BIOS computer. I need to do more research on this issue.

[@SIrcam769]

But guys, the NSA is over Ubuntu, Stallman, Linux, Microsoft, Apple and everyone. Sorry but we are not free. If you want a trully free OS, do it yourself, and even that way we are still being spied by them. What's google?

[@ghenulo]

Apology accepted.

[@EnriqueRegisPascalinRomo]

NSA can't be "over" Linux, don't be stupid: 1-USA is not the rest of the world. 2-Ubuntu (Cannonical) is not built in the USA 3-Ubuntu is Linux 4-Several Linux distros are built outside USA 5-All Linux distributions come with source code, COMPLETE so you can test yourself if they have spyware or any other malicious code. 6-No one himself can build an OS, because a complete OS like Linux or FreeBSD (that is the one behind the crappy Mac OS X) are the effort of thousands of people over several years to build a stable product.

[@1300l]

Enrique Regis Pascalin Romo SE Linux, a protocol of security since the 90s. Made byNSA. Most distros (including android) uses this protocol... So yea, you bet NSA has hold on linux too...

[@tomterhorst1077]

1300l yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic

[@1300l]

Tom ter Horst ha...

[@shantanusharma1042]

That was extremely useful!!!

[@OpenKeith]

also wasn't it just, like, one singular checkbox you could uncheck in unity system settings???

[@qpae123]

Man, your camera works better then the cameras from White House youtube channel :))

[@MyReviews_karkan]

I'm all for free software, but I want a system that works out of the box. I want to connect to my wifi, I want my trackpad to work out of the box...... etc. I don't have time to dig through man pages and file system folders to make things work. The linux community (especially those who are hardcore for free software) should make free versions of those drivers and throw them into the kernel's code. Then I won't touch proprietary.

[@inscrutablemungus4143]

Everything you just described already exists and is called "linux kernel development". Most of their work involves writing drivers for devices that the vendor decided to only support on Windows. The "linux community", as you put it, has been making free versions of nonfree drivers for close to 30 years now. It's not their fault the manufacturer of some shitty printer/WiFi receiver decided to only write drivers for windows.

[@hakametal]

So then what is the best desktop distro?

[@pecuniary]

Void, Gentoo or Arch.

[@8mandolin]

The OS that suits your needs is the best desktop distro

[@MrRoyalblunts]

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT, I really thought I was getting somewhere. What am I supposed to use then lol. Are we doomed to txt based distros or is there a GUI based distro that a windows user can convert to with no spyware that will dual boot on raid 0 with windows, supports pce ac66, and gtx 970????

[@Gligar13Vids]

+Collin Huebler >Nvidia Why use Nvidia, AMD is much better.

[@Holzider]

+Collin Huebler it's a relatively new device so the driivers will need some time to be in official releases, you could use some cutting edge distro/rolling release. i heared opensuse tumbleweed is pretty up-to-date.

[@MrRoyalblunts]

Jake Auralight °w° (Gligar13Vids) lol

[@MrRoyalblunts]

holzi Thanks I'll check em out.

[@calmarcalmar]

+Collin Huebler yeah, about any linux distro, just not ubuntu (related to spystuff). Related to 'free' or non-free .. well, you decide.

[@MichaelCook-oo8lj]

Non-"free" programs are not inherently unethical. Software is nothing more than a digital tool to get (usually) digital work done (but also digital play). There are many tools that we use on a daily basis that we are not able to open up and look at and study to determine how they work. Some we can, many we can't, and in most cases it doesn't matter anyway. Software is no different. If I want to create a program and I want to keep the source code to myself, for whatever reason, that's my prerogative. The person who installs the binary on their hardware is not being inherently unethical by doing so, and neither am I by providing them that binary. If my software spies on them, and that is found out, I should face heavy penalties. Proprietary software isn't the problem. The real problem is surveillance capitalism.

[@cbrbygones]

Propeietary software is a product of capitalism, but we should still promote/encourage FOSS and libre software.

[@Halfbit_0]

There aren't tools that we collectively don't understand. One might not understand something out of one's expertise, but there are plenty of people that understand them. I am pretty confident that if inclined to do so, I could learn to repair or perform maintenance on most of the appliances I use.

[@swagmuffin9000]

this is the first time i hear him speak. was not expecting this voice.

[@SinthiaVicious]

I love you Richard and I promise not to forget to include the GNU part when I talk about Linux anymore. I keep forgetting how great you are and I am so sorry for that.

[@SyphistPrime]

What about the freedom to choose proprietary software because we want our convenience? I personally use proprietary drivers, codecs, and a few programs like steam. I agree that having it as the default without stating it was bad, but being so aggressive about the mindset turns it into an agenda and backing it up with a slippery slope fallacy isn't going to help

[@rarumanH]

Where is the slippery slope? and he is saying that in Ubuntu the convenience isn't tied to the privacy invasion. Ubuntu is arguing a fallacy.

[@SleepyRulu]

Syphist Prime I agree with you amen

[@trevinbeattie4888]

It's not about whether you're free to choose what software to run; it's about whether you're free to examine and modify such software if necessary. It's also about the right to know exactly what the software you've installed on your computer is doing. With closed-source software, you can never know for certain. With proprietary software, you can't change it even if you did know what is wrong with it. I agree one should be able to choose to use proprietary software if one fully understands the risks and limitations, but one shouldn't be forced into it.

[@MoonShadeStuff]

I value freedom, but I just value convenience more. If I have to decide between freedom & shitty software that rarely works or requires a tremendous amount of time and/or knowledge (which equals to time learning) to get it working properly, and nonfree & software that works, I will take software that works. Those are my priorities and if somebody has something against that, I don't really care, because I got stuff to do on my computer. Cheers.

[@MoonShadeStuff]

Rafi Islam ok? But "getting hacked" is not the main reason why to use FOSS. You can get hacked with OSS or with proprietary software, that's really not the point.

[@actuallyokay6155]

Here I am, watching this on Linux Mint, being dissapointed by it's ancestral creator :(

[@harly1978]

Now I need to find a distribution of Linux which is user friendly as well as Stallman friendly.

[@mathiasror]

FSF recommends gNewSense

[@jakubkarcz1350]

***** I think,Trisquel would be a better choice.

[@drewerving7428]

slackware.

[@ewkalt4770]

debian?

[@obfuscated3090]

Debian. If you would really rather have Windows, give up and run Windows. Linux doesn't need desktop users. It's not a desktop OS, it's an OS which can be used on desktop (including mine since 1999) but most home users need nothing it does.

[@sandeepr1253]

Okay. Which distribution should I use ?

[@keycapslapper7080]

This is the video that completely changed how I look at software

[@jboxy]

The screen grab search for porn HAHA 😂🤣

[@antagonizingusername]

OOO PORNO PORN PORN PORNO

[@handleneeds3charactersormore]

I would love to know what his view on Ubuntu is nowadays

[@Eric.Abraham]

Who cares? I like Ubuntu. I use Ubuntu. I've tried 100 distro from the list of distrowatch. But I think Ubuntu is one of the best and I don't have 1000 hours to configure my drivers.

[@nahiyanalamgir7614]

You don't care, it's alright. RMS doesn't care about Ubuntu for himself. He is intelligent enough to care about Ubuntu for everyone out here, including you and me. Ubuntu is a great distro, no doubt but you're not getting the point at all. It has a really unusual feature in it - a spyware - it's freaking spying on you. This is the problem with Ubuntu which RMS cares about, for the general people, not himself.

[@SgtLion]

I doubt you've used that many distros. Plenty have great instant driver functionality.

[@joshuarosen6242]

Much as I respect RMS' contributiont to the free software movement (and I've been following it since long before Linux was a twinkle in Linus' eyes) he is a zealot and has all the sense of proportion that goes with that. There is nothing unethical about not being free to change software or have restrictions imposed on the way you use it, as long as you understand that when you pay. I bought myself a toaster. I neither know nor care what goes on inside it and I have no desire to modify it in any way. As long as it does what it was supposed to and what I paid for, everything is fair and above board. I first used Linux in 1992 and it has been my primary OS since about 1994. I like the freedom that comes with it but if I have to use a proprietary driver for a specific piece of hardware, why should I care if I cannot modify it or see the source code? There is nothing unethical about it. It just isn't fully free. The two things are absolutely not the same.

[@AugustusBohn0]

Joshua Rosen that's a reasonable opinion, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to unscrew the toaster and make sure it's only using your electricity for the task you want it to? Obviously that's unlikely for something like a toaster, but in software I'd like the option to be able to see the code and make sure the music player I downloaded from so-and-so group isn't using spare processing power to mine bitcoin or borrowing my internet connection on behalf of the developers. Source availability and freedom to modify/distribute/etc. are features that I believe will only become more desirable for a number of reasons.

[@stratmaster921]

EXACTLY. This should be the #1 comment as I think much of the commenters here (as well as Stallman) may be missing.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

@@AugustusBohn0 Are people using ordinary software to also use up your cpu resources to mine bitcoin in a botnet?

[@jamhamtime1878]

I know that this is a 7 year old comment, but maybe if anyone else reads this Your analogy with a toaster is not really fair with our normal expectations of toasters. You say that you do not care what's in your toaster. But what if there's a camera or a microphone hidden inside it to invade your privacy? Or what if this toaster destroys itself and becomes less usable after a certain number of use? Or toasters that can only be used if connected to the internet, and then you'd have to watch/listen to ads before each use? It might seem outrageous, but it's actually already the case with a lot of soft/hardware. Printers, TVs, most propietary software. I definitely do not want my toaster to be like a printer... But even if that would be fine for you, the point RMS tried to make here is that it should be by default free, and promote freedom. Which would still mean you can make it the printers way, it's just not the default state.

[@joshuarosen6242]

@@jamhamtime1878 It was a 7 year old comment but I still read your reply. Your view is reasonable but I don't believe you and RMS see eye to eye. I think RMS believes that proprietary software is evil. I think that's stupid. I am not going to take my toaster apart and I certainly have neither the time nor expertise to read the code for a device driver to check what it's really uo to and nor does anyone else (with a tiny number of exceptions). If I want to avoid negative side effects of either software or toasters, I do not (and indeed cannot) do so by inspecting low level technical details. The idea that I would read the ten million lines of code that make up Microsoft Word is absurd. Whether that code is open or closed makes no difference to 99.9% of people. If open source is inherently better than closed source, users will vote with their feet. They have done so and a mixed model is what has resulted and I believe that is the right outcome.