I find your analysis… interesting. This prelude has never struck me as one of Wagner’s more motivic ones, with the only ones I really hear being the opening theme and the march. Bits of it get used throughout the piece (the development to the end is basically the finale), but I’ve never picked up many leitmotifs from it. Nonetheless, I’ll be bookmarking this comment for research on this piece.
@pavelchenarev72154 жыл бұрын
So I've always thought there was something off (uneven) with this epic piece, and I could never put my finger on it. I've always confused the beginning theme and the march-like-theme, one or the other would come to mind whenever I thought of this piece. Why are they so similar? I guess because both are in the same key of C major! (and triumphant) So its strange to think that a master of counterpoint, chromaticism and orchestration, decided to keep both of the main themes in the same key. (Even a basic sonata form shifts from tonic to dominant, or another key). Anyways, I'm not criticizing, the polyphonic complexity of this work, is of the highest order. I just find it so interesting that both of those themes are in the same key. I'm sure he had his reasons.
@worldofmakam4 жыл бұрын
but you know that for Wagner convention meant nothing right? He and Liszt paved the way of musical modernism and I'm so glad they did.
@tommot77554 жыл бұрын
This man was unearthly in many respects. One has to admit that.
@ws59342 жыл бұрын
“More C! More C!” To me, that’s what this prelude sounds like to me. Really hammering that point home! Starting off an opera with a lengthy exploration of a tonality is something Wagner employed before even more strikingly in the prelude to Das Rheingold haha
@shevek5934 Жыл бұрын
Tonality in Wagner operas particularly post-Tristan but even to a degree in earlier works doesn't function structurally in the same purely architectural way as in Beethoven (though there is that aspect on the large scale). Wagner ties specific leitmotifs (often those with characteristic orchestrations) to specific tonalities while allowing other leitmotifs to be transposed freely. This allows the audience's ears to associate specific keys with important themes within the story as well as allowing the story itself to dictate the formal structure of the music - both of which solve significant problems that arise when through-composing opera as opposed to writing discrete arias and recitatives. I think it is also relevant that Meistersinger is a comic opera. A lot of the prelude sounds to me like a parody of mediocre baroque counterpoint. It takes a brilliant composer to write a parody of mediocre music but make the parody itself musically transcendent.
@trianglearchives57763 жыл бұрын
This piece brings back horrible memories
@robertallen6710 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing...
@WinrichNaujoks8 ай бұрын
Why?
@joksan_gmrz7 ай бұрын
@@WinrichNaujoks I'll risk to guess it's because it was used by Nazi party in a record with Furtwängler conducting it, but couldn't tell for sure. To me, it brings bad memories because the day we played it in orchestra I went through several disgraces, but I still love the piece. 😂
@Chutras3 жыл бұрын
1:39, 2:24, 4:01
@user-sm2he8gl5b2 ай бұрын
8:30 best part
@westonmarks9252 күн бұрын
Oh hands down.
@Delgado-Cheers11 ай бұрын
6:43 for my own reference
@Olivia_V9322 жыл бұрын
5:59= II Flute Solo
@zu36618 ай бұрын
素晴らしいホルン👏
@DominicKilgore3 жыл бұрын
6:49
@minghaozhang35203 жыл бұрын
05:15
@SlinkyTiger_ Жыл бұрын
06:45
@АдамРейт11 ай бұрын
1:00-побочная партия
@michaelshi1360 Жыл бұрын
5:11 bsyo excerpts
@pribbin Жыл бұрын
yooo thanks bro
@georgeshelton62813 жыл бұрын
Gauls carry spears and shields, which are weapons for warfare.🤔 😳 👀 🤣 😏 🙄 🤔 🛡 🔰 🛡