Killing Floor 2 | Perk Tier List - All Perks Ranked Worst to Best (2020)

[@nicolrb2210]

That moment when there’s only a field medic left and now he’s running for it’s life around the map refusing to die but also barely damaging the boss

[@ArgentAbendAzure]

The classic Medic Marathon.

[@Skeletical]

Had a clutch win as medic just like that today lmao

[@madtrips9349]

You talkin shit on me? Lol

[@mrslipyfist2021]

I'm in this comment and I don't like it

[@dawsondebell1603]

I love running into a dead end because a door was fully sealed.

[@jtktomb8598]

My two favorite perks : - Medic : Kill nothing, can't die - Gunslinger : Kill everything, die a lot

[@Vaan2K]

You shouldn't really be dying as gs. Ill give you dying as support tho.

[@antonioaav]

If you die as gs you are probably not a good one. A good gs can kite forever

[@R0ckst4r0ck3r]

I could also show you some guys who do a great medic job and are top 1 zed killers

[@crayfishfuture]

@@Vaan2K You shouldn't be dying as any class though. I thought that was the point of the game. We all make mistakes, otherwise the game wouldn't be fun or rewarding in the slightest.

[@NittanyTiger1]

The squishiness of a gunslinger is part of the learning curve. If I get my dumb ass cornered as a GS, I die within seconds.

[@osculas_0141]

0:51 (10) Survivalist 1:49 (9) Swat 2:59 (8) Firebug 4:10 (7) Berserker 5:20 (6) Demolitionist 6:31 (5) Support 7:43 (4) Sharpshooter 8:49 (3) Field Medic 9:51 (2) Commando 11:02 (1) Gunslinger

[@zerodelusion2693]

Thanks so much

[@TTValistair]

I use swat,,;-;

[@Estebanues]

@@TTValistair Don't worry. I've seen a hell of a SWAT players that can carry a full group ;)

[@Eylerion]

@@TTValistair I love swat the best too xD

[@Roabon]

@@TTValistair This is just Richard's subjective opinion. I think swat one of the best too.

[@brucehc4975]

What if you Wanted to kill a Scrake But your firebug said *fire noises*

[@WeeabooPocky]

IT'S TOASTY TIME!!!!

[@brucehc4975]

@@WeeabooPocky "I'll be back again some day *cough* " - Christmas Husk from KF1

[@spencegame]

@Goesdthe firebug has been able to ground fire scrakes and FPs with the flamethrower since beta

[@berserk-_-majay4104]

*Sad firebug noises*

[@Helldiver-K4]

Firebug Said Fire noises? Why is this so funny to me?

[@crabman96]

“The firebug is an excellent perk, as long as you are considerate of your teammates.” Firebugs being considerate may happen around the same time pigs fly.

[@Mscape7]

This.

[@kostassofis]

That's why you don't share the same targets with them. People who don't know how to play the firebug are the worst... They can lead a team to massacre pretty easy

[@mylesdenton1819]

Yes but a skilled fb can shred litterally anything and makes great partners w. Zerks. It can also protect big target hunters such as sharps who can't do anything at a close range

[@vincentgoodin9555]

OI I main da light bug! And I mind my flames!... Also MY FLAMES DO NOT DISCRIMINATE! BROTHER GET THE FLAMER, THE HEAVY FLAMER!... Sorry my firebug side came out

[@mylesdenton1819]

@@vincentgoodin9555 its okay as a fellow main LET US TURN THIS WORLD TO SMOULDERING ASH!!!!

[@Stolskai]

Message from a Support main: 'Yes, I have ammo I can give you.' 'No, I cannot take my own ammo' 'Therefore, please dont yank the ammo box that I am clearly walking towards' This has been a message from a support main :)

[@lordpankeki1023]

Me just watching this just because the game is about to be free: "Hmm yes, undoubtedly so."

[@nithrongaming5943]

Same lol

[@theskullicorn4588]

@@nithrongaming5943 Its goibg to be free???

[@DuskPudgyUmbreon]

The Skullicorn it’s free on epic games right now

[@fasuto8656]

Yeah. But they fucked up the servers

[@DuskPudgyUmbreon]

Fako works fine for me on any difficulty on survival

[@Axelovskji]

Imagine parrying enemy attacks This post was made by the light attack spammers

[@xrfy5653]

This isnt for honor😂

[@fridge713]

@@xrfy5653 but yiu can use light attacks

[@Helldiver-K4]

*for honour light spam intensifies*

[@showmehyamoves3009]

Katana Gang ! !

[@nameismetatoo4591]

​@@showmehyamoves3009I almost always run an upgraded katana and nailgun until the boss, when I sell the nailgun for the eviscerator. It's just so good for killing trash, and with the parry buff it makes it nearly impossible to get trapped by them.

[@Elphret101]

"Beserker has the highs skill floor and ceiling" Eviscrator spammers - Ha ha chainsaw gun go brrrr

[@Helldiver-K4]

deserves more likes than 30

[@nox9981]

Golden

[@ALackOfLife]

lol

[@fighter5583]

I've seen zerkers try to be pseudo gunslingers just because of the survivability of the class. Even melee focused zerks are more likely to survive than these guys.

[@bakasura1542]

As a berserker main I do say that chainsaw go BRRRR

[@Jerrarum]

Everyone: **Dies** The Berserker: Y O U H A V E E V O K E D M Y W R A T H

[@nicolrb2210]

Rip and tear

[@temhunter6341]

Until it is done

[@cheggnogg9175]

8:53 Struggling with large zeds is an understatement. It took me nearly 15 minutes to kill 3 fleshpounds.

[@spacegamer267]

What difficulty

[@TheDog-i6x]

Railgun or nah?

[@cheggnogg9175]

Suicidal and i was running the gl ar and the hemogoblin. I couldnt really attack them because they would rage at diffetent times so i had to run through the map and poison them.

[@TheDog-i6x]

@@cheggnogg9175 oof

[@bunnyfreakz]

15 minutes wtf? Are you try killing them with default knife?

[@doorsareforopening]

This list can be easily broken down into frontline (Zerk, Firebug, Swat) < backline (Demo, Sharp) < midline (Commando, Medic, Slinger, Support)

[@immortalnub]

Major problem with that though: mando, slinger, sharp, support, and flashless swat need aggro for their takedowns.

[@davecrupel2817]

The game is too chaotic for that. The only place where you can mount any proper defense is the guard tower in the Prison map. When youre inside that fence, no zed can approach you from the rear. Not even crawlers. 1 zerk spartan at the gate, 1 medic, 1 support for ammo, 1 swat for stun and MG (better than commando) support. And in the tower overlooking the courtyard, 1 demo and 1 sharp for big zed killing and long range crowd softening. Or trade the sharp for a 2nd bezerker for HoE. Which you will need. I consider myaself a master class bezerker. And helped my whole team get the platinum ps4 trophy by willing a HoE game this way.

[@giuseppegarrubba57]

@@davecrupel2817 there are other viable camping spots like the 2-lane cliff on zed landing Three players per lane (1 healer 1dps 1 Frontline). That's pretty funny to play. Prison is like the worst camping spot ever: 6 players focussing a single lane with the demomen eventually getting more kills than the whole party just spamming explosives... That's kinda tedius and braindead if you ask me

[@GibranLahud]

Sometimes I like to be in the front line as a Gunslinger. I get as close as I can to the Zeds, start shooting and then running backwards while my friends shoot them behind me.

[@warcheems7570]

I always bring the fire breath as support (my main) and become a mix of support, firebug, and a damage dealer

[@amicosayshi865]

As a prestige 5, level 25 Firebug that often plays HoE with randoms, I often find I'm the last one alive. I see why you put Firebug there, but I feel like you should, for every perk, have a section where you explain how each perk performs when everything has gone to shit.

[@RichardDangles]

I think what makes FB survivable is its ability to get out of being corned, and Heat Wave being able to keep big ZEDs at bay.

[@allenryu9228]

@@RichardDangles commando, medic and gunslinger are top rated because what they do when things done right, only firebug was placed when things done wrong.

[@amicosayshi865]

@@RichardDangles I 100% agree. As Killing floor is an ever changing game, and as your videos showcase how perks, or mechanics or skills change, I think it would be really cool to know your opinion on a perk when it comes down to performing when everyone else has failed. Just a suggestion, I love these videos, as well as the Payday 2 ones.

[@SamuelGamingYT-ce8fx]

@@RichardDangles i main survivalist and firebug, any reccomendations?

[@immortalnub]

@@SamuelGamingYT-ce8fx Surv: Get T4 freezethrower to make it an op trash killer and a reliable large zed killer. Fb: Master control of the chaos you generate.

[@justamuffhugger6733]

I play berserker like I’m striving to die in a field of chaos during an epic battle to ascend to the halls of Valhalla.

[@delvechiocavalhieri2105]

Berserker is definitely the number 1 of my list, even if I like SS more, because man zerker is so broken if you know the basics of hit-and-run and parry. Easily the strongest perk when mastered, but also one of the hardest.

[@Ghost1170]

True. But gunslinger man.... It's SOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOD and SOOOOOO FUUUUNN

[@kaIawin]

Berserker + field medic friend = invincible! XD

[@TheRealPots]

@@kaIawin me and a medic cleared up to 50 once with this method :)

[@Davtwan]

At the very least, the Survivalist is a very tanky gap-filler. If it wasn’t for that all-damage resistance, then it would be rather worthless in a game that’s mostly about min-maxing team roles.

[@noahyoung9651]

Aight I understand the whole strategic approach to this guide, but Strasser’s voicelines when playing as fire bug easily makes the perk worth way more than any other perk

[@gabrielcusma1061]

Waaaiiiiiit a minute...

[@TheDog-i6x]

@@gabrielcusma1061 lol

[@dawgamonggators]

just tried the nailgun on swat for the first time after wathcing this vid. god damn i have a new loadout now!!! its so good

[@chaunceybillups5436]

I rarely see anyone use nail gun with swat and idk why. It's so sick

[@purpledino6271]

Chauncey Billups I initially didn’t use it due to using my entire ammo supply quickly. But now that I got swat to 25 I use it in Zed time and Mostly against fleshpounds and scrakes

[@chaunceybillups5436]

@@purpledino6271 yeah it's great. You can even switch it to single fire mode. And also if ammo is an issue, you can get three weapons that weigh 5 kg that way you don't have to worry about Ammo. Only downside is you can't upgrade because the maximum you can have is 15 kg

[@chaunceybillups5436]

@Andrew Whiting more like go to your corner and hide!

[@chaunceybillups5436]

@Andrew Whiting The irony here is I actually love the shotguns in this game haha

[@rotz394]

"SWAT CON: Expensive ammo" Good joke, man.

[@TikisPlayhouse]

I like the berserker cuz hes almost like a wall, while everyone else is behind you blasting the zeds youre holding them all back.

[@GibranLahud]

Berzes are the best doormen ever

[@pedrochindi7853]

Richard at 6:04: ... As they tend to perform poorly when zeds get too close HX25 Loadouts: Am I a joke to you?

[@spacegamer267]

Sucky fire rate so yes

[@pedrochindi7853]

@@spacegamer267 The faster reload skill. I said HX25 loadouts, therefore it's also including skills.

[@spacegamer267]

@@pedrochindi7853 even then if your playing hell on earth then it really dosen't matter

[@immortalnub]

@@pedrochindi7853 With all due respect, you're wasting a player slot with that skill unless you're doing sui. The extra damage hits major damage breakpoints in takedowns, and the faster reload doesn't actually solve any problems for demo like it does for support or gs.

[@pedrochindi7853]

@@immortalnub Hey man, it's okay, I don't really play HoE, or use the faster reload skill, and I play HX25 with the RPG just for each thing. HX for trash, RPG for big boys, and that's usually just how it goes.

[@benjewett8186]

A good gunslinger's teammates often need the gunslinger more than the gunslinger needs their teammates...

[@Saint-XIV]

*Laughs in Berserker*

[@JackRabbittm]

You see, I have a bit of a problem with your use of a learning curve when it comes to determining the position of the perk. You say the Berserker has a tough learning curve to master, and I think you are correct with that. But to place it all the way at slot 7 for that reason? That's painful. On top of this, you put Gunslinger, a perk which also has a really steep learning curve to master, at number one despite saying that it has the learning curve. It's just confusing to me because I agree that both perks have a steep learning curve, but to put one at 7 and one at 1? That's just confusing to me.

[@screamingcactus1753]

I think his point was that Berserker is much harder to play than other perks, and has a hard time getting as much value as the top tier perks even when performing well. Both Berserker and Gunslinger are difficult classes, but berserker is significantly harder while at the same time having less potential even at the top of its learning curve.

[@-IAmTheSenate]

For me the gunslinger and sharpshooter are the hardest perk to play because I play on a potato laptop with fps drops. Not to mention their lurning curve. I'm doing much better as a commando, firebug, demo, medic and sometimes support (HoE)

[@immortalnub]

The learning curve isn't important. The important part is the skill ceiling.

[@Mr._Sherwood]

Oh, I feel you there. I can't hit headshots to save my life, and half the time it's usually because my game would randomly drop a few frames while I'm trying to line a shot up and I wouldn't even see the frame where a Zed's nut is in my sights. The other half of the time is because I just suck at aiming. It's probably why I gravitate towards Firebug and Demo.

[@immortalnub]

@@Mr._Sherwood Change your sensitivity to 10, and zoom sensitivity to 70.

[@eoe1337]

Whos here after Epic has given it out for free!

[@foxsfury616]

Me!

[@ignap]

Me!

[@ava9oh1282000]

Yup

[@SilverWF]

I've bought it on Steam (Humble Bundle) after tested it at EGS, lol

[@Collisto2435]

I love throwing down a flashbang on a scrake and having literally everyone immediately unload their magazines into its head. Richard: (Talking about Support) They excel at dealing with groups of enemies at close range, especially in narrow hallways or corridors... Meanwhile, I'm using the M4 to snipe a Siren.

[@n3rf0r30]

Tight Choke gang

[@kerker7577]

I missed this game... back in 2017 me and my friends play this game like theres no tomorrow.. 5 man team consisting berserker, medic, commando, sniper and swat(me) we are unstoppable... good team always have a plan.

[@Fr0stbite1801]

I've always been a cowboy at heart. And when I saw the gunslinger class, I knew what my main would be. Also, GS and SS comes with the added bonus of teaching good habits, because headshots are MANDATORY for those.

[@vincentgoodin9555]

I still say the gunslinger needs akimbo miniguns.

[@amicosayshi865]

Lowkey, I feel like a minigun should be Swat's tier 5

[@GrandDukeCaesar]

Or Akimbo SMG’s

[@itsmedqz]

Fan fire with dual-wielding autoguns sounds way too op

[@fridge713]

That sounds cool as fuck but in practice they would probably nerf gunslinger again

[@hooogahooga2909]

Akimbo glocks from the swat

[@BDozer666]

Huh, I thought SWAT would go up after the introduction of the Nailgun.

[@conorkerlin5928]

Been looking forward to this for a while, keep up the good worl

[@Deflections]

This list really makes me wanna come back to this game sometimes, I remember getting hyped after playing the early beta - and my first hell on Earth is still one of the greatest moments I've had gaming (I've been a survivalist main for as long as I can remember, but uninstalled it earlier this year)

[@afterpasthours7504]

The other reason the Firebug is lower on this list is because of the frame drops caused by them, hopefully this is patched out in the next update, or else I don’t see this perk holding a much higher spot anytime soon.

[@adwans1491]

Get a better pc

[@extremeencounter7458]

@@adwans1491This game is still prone to frame drops after recent updates, in fact my frames go from 90 up to 130 but only while firing a gun. That's called shitty optimization.

[@GhostMihneaRo]

Wtf, frame drops caused by them :))))

[@extremeencounter7458]

@@GhostMihneaRo No, my frames go UP when I shoot. Makes no fucking sense, no clue what they've done to their own engine.

[@Mr._Sherwood]

That's probably why I love the Husk Cannon so much; it doesn't cause shit tons of ground fires and cause my game to lag out.

[@noahsmith4382]

Slinger 4 life! Very rewarding at high levels of play and fairly balanced because of their limited survivability options.

[@Madalovin]

I love playing Firebug. Double-ammo capacity + Husk Cannon makes me go Megaman on the Zed. Spam main-fire, pew pew pew!

[@tiphon7275]

Sharpshooter: NOo you can't just make the scrake fire panic!! Firebug: haha flamethrower go bwooosh

[@actualteddybear891]

Volume>precision.

[@nyx4074]

@@actualteddybear891 Nah. Quality > Quantity.

[@numa2k147]

I'm only here because of the quality of your videos and your knowledge about the game. I don't even play KF2 anymore I spend all my time on WWZ. It's a pretty cool zombie game.

[@reimuhakurei2123]

i honestly thought demolition perk icon was a corona virus

[@jf5220]

Was suprised about swat. The only perk with which I shred waves of zeds and donate tons of money to the team.

[@thejohnnyjameson5749]

Thanks for uploading, not much KF content around.

[@Nightingale698]

I remember 6 years ago when I was a college student i saved my lunch budget for this game lol

[@Vistresian1941]

"... and the trench gun come to mind. And they sort of lack the punch and efficiency of other weapons." Pretty sure I've seen dragonsbreath absolutely rip through clumps of zeds, even medium and heavy tiered ones. I can understand criticism of the trench shotgun reload mechanics, but if we're talking "punch," I think different wording could be used. Also- it's a tad hard to avoid lanes with precision perk users when they continually come over to take pot shots at zeds that are *already on fire.*

[@R7AWSUM]

I feel like the average pub game was not a big enough factor in these decisions. Swat is definitely higher tier when two of your teammates are running around on the other side of the map and everybody else are sharpshooters. Sometimes it's a win just to be die last

[@quanithan]

been waiting for an updated one, thank youuuu

[@DomyTheMad420]

4:32 THAT MOMENT oh my god did you just *jump and then brought down an axe mid jump* ?! 10/10 beserker

[@immortalnub]

Medic: perk that everyone loves, but no one wants to play. Survivalist: perk that nobody loves, but everyone wants to play.

[@jacobthefiend]

correction: medic, the perk that nobody can effectively use, and survivalist, the perk for plebs

[@immortalnub]

@@jacobthefiend I take it you have never watched honest game trailers?

[@swapertxking]

Firebug is an insane boss clearer now with the right team set up. Microwave damage is rarely resisted and most bosses have metal that gets cooked off by it. The microwave gun’s altfire is additionally good cc.

[@mevlutaytac]

1 Medic 2 Gunslinger/Berserker 3 Commando/Firebug/Survivalist 4 Sharpshooter/Support 5 Demolitionist (Prison GOD, but elsewere always in trouble) 10 Swat (Uber trash, evrything is a struggle, people who disagree have enough skills to make it work but it is not the swat that is making the magic hapen its u)

[@Aksen0076]

Personally I would but the demolitionist in first place for 1 reason, HRG Kaboomstick. This weapon is so overpowered to me I get bored whenever I play with it, I can kill fleshpounds in 1 dual barrel shot, scrakes the same. I can kill bosses in a couple double barrel shots. No need to worry about close range which is one of demo's weaknesses, it's a shotguns that's what it's for. It's a trash clearing god to me, Can kill big zeds in 1 or 2 double barrel shots, ammo isn't that big of an issue cause there are ammo packs lying everywhere, also you still have space for an extra weapon even if you max upgrade it.

[@armoredsheep2555]

I agree with most of your list but I'd personally put swat much much higher. I'll take a competent swat any day over a firebug or demo. Their concussion grenades can save a team and allow them to do decent take downs on scrakes and such . Having a teammate spec one for survivability makes them the best trash killer that doesn't cause fire panic . I'd also rank sharpshooters much lower as their lack diversity makes them meh to me. I'd personally rather have a gunslinger as the sharp is so much slower at taking big Zed's down and lacks diversity to handle trash. That's just my opinion, I mainly play as gunslinger .

[@NaeemR05]

Armored Sheep Gaming I think swat and support should have swapped and put firebug as 8 n support as 7 and keep sharp where is was

[@armoredsheep2555]

@@NaeemR05 that's a good analysis, I guess I've just never played with a really good sharp. They are always struggling to maintain and I personally don't enjoy the class. Maybe if I saw someone play the class right it would change my tune a bit .

[@erne57]

Sharpshooters have the best granade in the game not to mention that they make zed time more frecuent something that is invualuable when playing HoE CD , their damage is pretty solid and they can stun big zeds with ease. Sharpshooters are not only essential to any competent team but top 3 perk in the game (gunslinger and commando being higher but for different reasons).

[@armoredsheep2555]

Perhaps I have been to quick to judge sharps . You guys have made some good points. I've only played hoe solo so I my viewpoint is a bit limited in that regard .

[@erne57]

@@armoredsheep2555 Hoe solo can be won with any perk at lvl 1 if you want and is not even that hard but since this is a team game and the game gets harder when you get more people playing the game (ex in the case of CD were you can fake more players) you have to judge the perks based on performance within a team at least if not CD , in HoE with full players.

[@fighter5583]

Demo and Pyro. I am the embodiment of chaos for the zeds, and they sing the sweet song from burning to ash or blasted to nothingness. And I saved my team's asses several times by killing big zeds or keeping trash at bay while they deal with the big ones. People really underestimate crowd control perks.

[@Junkwhitmer564]

Yes

[@supercool1594]

Amen brother, speak.

[@zrilloxragebringer2555]

I solo hoe as survivalist, I never saw any problems with the perk except running out of ammo because of big zeds.

[@M6nst6r6]

I approve this list, since slinger is my main! However, I have to add, until you hit LVL 15 Slinger can a little bit UP, unless you master the reload times.

[@cake113]

Imo the perk died when they removed reload animation cancelling, took me nearly a full prestige to get used to letting my reloads finish lmao

[@bartlegoof5949]

I’d rank firebug a bit higher on the list since the only time my friends have had a problem with all the fire was when we’re killing the smaller ZEDS which the firebug has no problem taking care of, and I find it very effective against bosses, especially the patriarch since the burn damage helps my team find him whenever he turns invisible and runs away

[@RealityMFiction]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on best perk. I actually think Commando should be a lot lower. Those of us who played Killing Floor 1, know that Commando in Killing floor 2 has been regulated to being a a weaker version of swat with only use is for slow mow and seeing Stalkers.I miss the glory days of Commando. Dont get me wrong, those utilities are important but come on, go try out killing floor 1 and tell me how great Commando can be. Gunslinger is an excellent class, especially since tripwire has shown more love to Gunslinger than any other class. So many new weapons being added to it every update, but number 1 has to be beserker. You get a good beserker and they will win the game for your team even when your pub team dies.

[@HHSFamily0]

All perks are good, no exception on this. The real diff here is the player. Gunslinger can be the a god tier perk, but if some unskilled player get this class is suficient to destroy a DPS dependent team (I would prefer a good survivalist over a bad gunslinger). Not everyone may consider this list accurate, but this is not the point. Choose a perk and play. At some point you will be really good at it. Knowledge about game mechanics/enemy behavior and so on is a MUST in KF series - Keep that in mind. Having fun while NOT making any other player upset is the ideal circunstance.

[@m2rtenA]

I have been playing medic since forever so now its so easy to heal my teammates through bushes and stuff

[@paralegalparaplegic8177]

Same,also health thrower is un rivaled in effective healing just tap heal and you get stacked buffers even when they're full health and if u need long range of burst heal just use its darts

[@fourthearleofsandwich6104]

With the dual pistols other than revolvers never reload until you’re completely empty melee as soon as you hear the click and then spam the shoot button and the reload is almost instantaneous

[@RaptorLuck]

Bat and shield berserker is my favorite. The bash attack knocking down scrakes is both satisfying and the perfect opportunity to bash his head in

[@mushroomman4367]

The Gunslinger is one of the most powerful perks and yes the lurking curve is difficult because in suicidal or hell on earth you team needs constant headshots from you and depends on you for taking on large zeds and the ammo problem is a big deal, but the zerk is also powerful in its own way cause of the parry bonus being really powerful against trash and big zeds with the right weapons for the job, but AMAZING VIDEO!! Great job

[@stringisacrow5959]

My one complaint with demolitionist is that now people expect you to head shot with his guns like yeah that's why I'm playing this class to be a sniper

[@bellyrider779]

New player : How to play? Amature player : kill zeds, gain cash, buy weapons, level up Pro player : kill everything not a human

[@n3rf0r30]

Elite player: kill everything and votekick Survivalist Raes

[@alyssasowell774]

Most of the team wipes I can remember recently have been from a firebug pissing off a big zed, promptly getting his butt killed as well as everyone else who werent ready or positioned to take out a big zed let alone a whole squad of them.

[@codenamedagger9425]

I feel that the survivalist could be more effective if the lockdown perk improved damage too

[@doorsareforopening]

The devs are increasing the knockdown even more in the next patch.

[@erne57]

They need a rework of all the skills they have and knockdown is just stupid in a game were you rely on headshots most of the time to kill things fast.Nobody wants to have their targets knocked down, instead why not make them stun zeds more ?

[@jamstheshapeshifter]

Ironically, I've been doing best with survivalist. First perk I ever prestiged too

[@senioritaescalanta8476]

Same. After I prestiged every class besides berserk and survival I thought: Worst classes now... And boy i was suprised how good he can be

[@alfredbanuelos7312]

As firebug, what they do best is be cost effective, with tier 25 you get unlimited ammo during zed time so you got amazing firepower and save on dosh. I run trenchgun and dual flareguns and extra dosh I give to medic or commando and once everyone maxes I go helios. I know when to stop spamming when holding a lane and use the quick command to ask for help for big zeds.

[@FurryEskimo]

I think you're fairly accurate, when prioritizing offensiveness. I fell in love with the firebug in KF1, able to clear a room in seconds at max levels, leaving just the large zeds behind. The ability to stumble large zeds in KF2 is amazing. I can just clear out the small enemies, and puff fire at the large ones to keep them off my teammates. This is a bigger issue on endless more than survival imo, since some rounds are 90% skrakes or something, and I can help keep them away from pinning us as we run away.

[@sopmodtew8399]

I still think berserker is the best perk for solo.

[@IronRevolution]

It is. Along with medic. No one to watch your back, need good healing and fast legs

[@Gogobrodo]

Survivalist in my opinion, since its perfect for forming your own synergy against Zeds. You can also perfectly mend into teams. Plus the high carry weight makes it really good for carrying any combo of weapons to demolish enemies.

[@amicosayshi865]

I've gotta say Firebug for that. Melts up to medium tier zeds with ease. And for boss and big zed killing, the helios rifle is quick and concise.

[@Gogobrodo]

Tyler Johnson While it being a reskin, the fiery M4 launcher is not bad either, really good for some mid tier game usage.

[@amicosayshi865]

@@Gogobrodo I have yet to use it. Since I'm already max level Firebug, I've been using the Double XP to get my Berzerker to max level. Only two level away now!

[@pyroshock3834]

As a new player, i found survivalist to be the best for one man armying your way through the crowds as it is well balanced over every zone.

[@centaurwa115]

I'm surprised berserker is THIS low. When ranking best perks, I judge it by the capability of carrying the team. When 5 of your teammates died, the best perks that can carry are: #1 Gunslinger, #2 Berserker, #3 Medic all thanks to their amazing movement speed and hit-and-run capability. Also having a good berserker and a medic can pretty much allow the team to do whatever they want. It's always a rule of thumb to say this for every game: can't dps if you are dead!

[@towelmaster9240]

Kinda lame to become useful when everyones dead hence forth low placing on the list

[@shiningdiscretion3435]

@@towelmaster9240 I disagree, Berserkers are still useful reguardless of how many teammates are alive. Our job is to kite all the big zeds into attacking us while the the rest of the team provides covering fire, it's especially useful at choke hold points.

[@towelmaster9240]

@@shiningdiscretion3435 I meant that as in regards to his reason why he thinks berserkers a good. Not that, that was the only thing they offer. berserkers can be a literal wall in certain choke points but they block team mates vision so perks like fire bug and demo are a better matchup with them. Yeah berserkers can be a meatshield for big zeds but that requires them to be close to the zed, as in, hopefully in the same general area before the big zed hits other people and makes them useless. The message of the tier list was that perks like Commando, sharp shooter medic and gunslinger were the best because of their relation to zed time, fire power and team utility. While perks like fire bug, demo and berserker have their uses, they just don't have what it takes make the most out of zed time.

[@shiningdiscretion3435]

@@towelmaster9240 Ah I see where you're getting at. As long as the Berserkers are considerate of the precision perks and don't stray off to far they'll be able to fend off most big Zeds.

[@towelmaster9240]

@@shiningdiscretion3435 Yeah, a team with enough medic cross perk weapons and coordinated bersker wouldn't even need a medic on their team. Other than having one for a "if shit hits the fan situation"

[@iiiiiiiiiilili7173]

Im a day one KF2 player, i have every nearly every perk maxed and i have a few issues with this list, Every perk can change tier depending on the situation how many players? What map? And what other perks are your team running? For example yes gunslinger is a high tier perk no one disputes that, but if im playing descent and there are 2 other plays playing sharp and zerker, GS is gunna be my last pick. Firebug is my main as i easily have over 600 hours on FB alone the reason being if you run FB as a back liner you give so much support to your team, you get to hold down entire chokes for cleaning house while the other 2 back liners (presumably a sharp and demo) take on what they can see in front of them without having to turn their backs for that reason alone i would put FB higher on the list as the best trash killer but the difference between a 600hour bug and a 6 hour bug is the choice of weapons and their trigger fingers when they see a scrake. Honestly not a bad list and i agree in the most part but i would break it down into segments, best trash killer, best solo and best supports. Honestly though this all comes down to preference and practice but all perks if played properly can be a serious asset to the team but in their own rights.

[@cake113]

Im glad theres comments like this one, really couldnt agree more with what you said about a perks value depending on the situation. Also people dont realise how much of a skill ceiling there is with firebug, mastering the per unit cooldown on heatwave can allow for some ridiculous frontlining on the harder difficulties

[@ОмирзакКулдыбаев]

nice work bro,keep it goin',u r doin great

[@eskeeehamilton4253]

My face when he said survivalist made me feel like I wasted so much time

[@diknmuhbutt2735]

If you have fun with it then don't worry about other opinions. Look at it this way. No one else can use the kill o watt...

[@nyx4074]

Well surv is on low tier due to his function. But in term of team play they're good choice. Surv can fill any gap, you can be second medic, or second damager, or offer more utility to the team. Surv is very flexible but not a "must have" perk.

[@Janfon1]

Berserker would be a lot easier to play if I didn't have to swap between four different hotkeys to use his full potentional. Just like the author of the video said, it's half baked. Devs should copy Vermintide's melee system - press LMB to do a light, hold LMB to charge a heavy, press RMB to block, press LMB while blocking to do a shove. And press LMB again to instantly do a light after shoving.

[@flashn00b]

TBH, i've always felt that this is a more ideal team composition on Suicidal. Berserker (Tanking) Field Medic (self-explanatory) Demolitionist (Takedowns) Commando (Trash clearing) Support (Ammo replenishing) Anyone other than SWAT (I'll get more into detail why I don't like SWAT) You probably know a lot more about the game than I do, though from my personal experience with both solo and team play, it seems like a lot of games devolve into "Hold S, magdump your weapons, hope a few stray bullets hit the head), and I feel like with firefights getting out of control real fast, precision perks might be more of a hindrance than anything when things come down to "Move first, aim later", especially when the Sharpshooter's damage skills often require him to paint himself as a target for the zeds to chew on. Personally, I think the Demolitionist is probably the strongest perk on paper having a weapon for every enemy type (RPG-7 for Scrakes, Fleshpounds and EDARs, HX for everything else) and while he has more mobility than Sharpshooter in that he doesn't lose out on any damage by running backwards and shooting, you'll still want a designated damage sponge to keep your targets far enough for your explosive weapons to arm. The Zerker's utility as a tank is probably THE most important asset in Suicidal games, and has some pretty good killing power with his melees. Can't imagine how smoothly my multiplayer sessions would go without someone who can take a licking and keep on ticking. Cuz every other perk certainly can't. And finally, why I think SWATs are usually a wasted slot: They're essentially a slightly tankier but objectively worse version of the Commando. I think the main reason why the Nailgun gets so much praise has more to do with its base stats rather than how the SWAT's skillset improves on them. You can probably get similar results as a Survivalist while also having a Centerfire as a dedicated medium zed killer. Even then, if you're gonna go Survivalist, it's probably better to go for an RPG+Buckshots+HM101+Hemoclobber combo while using Heavy Weapons Training and Weapon Harness

[@hoodie1355]

Can’t speak for the other perks but from a medic main I think it should’ve been at least in 2nd. It’s not the best at killing tough zeds but can very much handle it’s own, not only with the HM-tech 301 shotgun which I’ve absolutely fallen in love with when taking out scrakes and flesh pounds, but also with the syringe being able to basically completely offset any damage given, even in a corner with flesh pounds and scrakes if you spam your healing grenades quick enough you’ll be able to make it out practically unscathed This is without also mentioning how the buffs you put on your teammates will also apply to you when healing them or when using your syringe but I think that was a feature added after this video was made so I’m happy with 3rd but if the creator makes an updated video I definitely think medic should be 2nd at least. Do really appreciate him acknowledging the medic’s effective and consistent healing though, in general the KF2 community is one of the only communities I’ve seen actually appreciate their medics, y’all are the best!!!

[@HATL201]

Support is my favorite perk! The shotguns are so satisfying and stylish. Especially it's a piece of cake to deal with larger zeds using the upgraded dual barrel or doomstick.

[@marcsmith8884]

I used to agree about Survivalist until I found out about the perk that allows you to carry 5 more weight. A HRG bastion, pair of .500 Magnum revolvers, and the seal squeal, I'm pretty much an ammo-loaded tank

[@DemolitionboyXX]

Did a survivalist bully you as a kid?

[@RichardDangles]

DemolitionboyXX yes.

[@adwans1491]

Bruh

[@orateusdijin6557]

Slinger, serker, support and firebug main. So yeah this vid get a good job in my book.

[@skully.8955]

I'll be frank, the main reason I play firebug is because that's what I got used to in old killing floor, and despite what everyone kept telling me, it worked. but yeah, "chaotic nature and disruption" everything you described with it *can* be a drawback if used incorrectly, the whole point of firebug (to me atleast) is excelled trash clearing and swarm disruption, in other words moments like that time you found yourself cornered by a quarterpound, to me, that's part of my job, heatwave, knock him over, ground napalm a trail so he's slowed and is no longer focusing on you, the guy that requires precise aim. chaotic isn't necessarily a bad thing, fire panic becomes useful when it's a scrake or fleshpound swarm that got too close. and as for the husk launcher and trench gun, I don't find the weapons awkward personally, but the trench gun is definitely one of the more edged weapons when used correctly, if you go completely for damage perks with firebug, with zed shrapnel, that thing mows. the husk launcher is more for people who prefer burst damage like demolition but also afterburn, it's useful in cases like armor or shield stripping, it's also even better at disruption because of the explosive nature that comes with it, although admittedly, more often than not: there's not a use for it, especially with how much weight it takes.

[@zanelebushgenie270]

Am I initiate? i picked up gunslinger my first time playing this game, and it was my first time playing on pc, I soloed ten waves on normal mode. I dunno if that's a big achievement but it was fun and i'm definitely getting the game for myself lol

[@MrNeurotek]

Hey ! I'm new to the game, and I was wondering if upgrading is really worth it because of how poor the damage is upgraded ? Cause you said Deagles Tier 5 especially were OP, thx !

[@3_7_5_6_4]

My only favorite perk Gunslinger - because i'm good at fps games and i serve the quote "fight is the only option in fps games no hiding no camping just charge and fight till death"

[@frostbite3820]

Berserker goes from 0 to God tier with leveling up

[@rH0und]

I just got this game. Enjoying the mindless killing so far and it’s one of those games I couldn’t get very bored of. But I’ve seen a single weapon dlc for 10 bucks and videos discussing if the game is dying/dead. Is this true? I hope the game I just got isnt dead already :(

[@retr0_724]

It's not dead but dying a little bit but for new players it's fine

[@kyuketsuki5736]

I still miss cowboy mode from kf1, fully automatic dual 9mils for the gunslinger, I really hope they come back someday

[@erne57]

I feel you that was pretty awesome , sadly i think KF2 is slowly but surely dying , these updates have been aweful.

[@immortalnub]

If you're in the US, Siren Torturers has that. Totally not shilling.

[@pufferfishman4203]

Gunslinger was the first class I gravitated towards when I originally started playing, and the deagles were and still are my favourite weapons, so it shocked me that gunslinger is the best perk in the game, and the deagles the pistol among them

[@Rahnonymous]

Berserker - mostly just new players who run in headfirst and be a nuisance for medics, but if they're experienced and know what they're doing, you don't have to worry about them ever dying Commando - A CoD fanboy, also tends to be wearing a headband like Rambo Support - If they were an animal, they'd definitely be a goldfish, because their favourite pastime is dying Field Medic - Healer perk that never heals teammates. The amount of times I've seen another perk get the most heals at the end of the game in the range of 30-60 is astonishing Demolitionist - Probably American, loves Torgue from Borderlands, and is a casual at heart. Very rare to see a veteran main this perk Firebug - All non-firebug mains probably think you play a braindead perk, but in reality you're the mvp. Just please for the love of god stop trying to pick a fight with Scrakes and Fleshpounds Gunslinger - The meta sheep. You love to hate on the deagles for being so overpowered, but you all secretly have a guilty pleasure using them Sharpshooter - They exist? Also, I'm sorry but it's just natural that everyone thinks you're an edgey teenager who listens to Linkin Park SWAT - Don't lie, you're a hipster and started maining this perk because you keep hearing it's "one of the worst perks" and "nobody plays it because of that" Survivalist - Either you're just bad at not taking damage and use this perk as a crutch/don't want to max prestige more than perk, or you're a god at the game and know all the best lanes and weapon/enemy data

[@supercool1594]

As a firebug, you are a person worth being loved.

[@dumbly1912]

I love the Firebug the swat and the survivalist because they're all good perks

[@conspark9946]

I did not hear you mention that the field medic can buff them self as well as their team with the left side perk tree. You can do so by standing in your own gas grenade for about 5-8 secs to get full buff.

[@thecognitiverambler8911]

I think the firebug is still better than most people give it credit for. Regardless of difficulty or team size, the Helios makes quick work of even the biggest zeds, all while the flame thrower still pulverizes everything else. With their competent crowdcontrols, generally good ammo stores, and a pretty amazing lvl 25 zed time perk, I just feel much stronger as the FB than any other perk. This is probably in part for how silly easy to use they are. Point, click, win.

[@kendonl.taylor5111]

@Richard Dangles Can you the characters of Killing Floor 2?

[@sargi769]

"You were killed by an old man, with an old gun!"

[@treys655]

Surprised Berserker didn't get a mention on its sustain capability. 2 HP tick regen is huge. I don't even buy armor (BOSS wave excluded) because of this and the Vampire perk which gives 4 HP per Zed killed. I call these "perks" classes and the perks are what you choose every 5 levels but its whatever, to each their own. I've successfully completed 4 waves Suicidal with just a Katana (maxed out ASAP ofc), loads of fun. Especially with Spartan which allows you to move and attack in real-time during Zed time, I've heard friends go "Holy shit, hes cutting through everything" while they're moving hella slow in Zed Time and ngl, quite a satisfying feeling! As for those wondering why I don't pick up a ranged weapon (Nail Gun, etc), my ranged attack is the Katana's stab (I use this to shutdown Bloaters/Sirens), thats ranged enough for me ^_^ Happy Hunting!

[@aknight1571]

2:39 what's that Kriss skin? Looks so good!

[@sergeantfresh2728]

Beyond horizon.

[@actualteddybear891]

Firebug is my personal favorite. Pretty colors and you don't need precision when you have volume.

[@icewallowcome6769]

If you play duos which 2 classes should you choose?

[@Kitties_are_pretty]

1:05 "Often the perk is used as an excuse to use whatever weapons the player likes..." Why would anyone need an excuse to use the weapons they want to use in a video game? Fun police. Weeooo weeooo! "Officer, I swear, I have a good excuse to be using this weapon in a video game I bought and am playing for enjoyment." "This isn't up to me son, it's up to the judge. They'll decide whether you're playing the video game correctly. Come with me."

[@duatia5315]

My two favorites are swat man and demolitions, but a survivalist combination between the two is still a favorite.

[@ZanicaKnight]

I would definitely put berserker higher whether you play solo or multiplayer. A zerker can block heavy enemies from your teammates/be a meatshield, move in real-time during bullet time making them a great teammate for commandos, speed, can take out trash easily and efficiently, and has low ammo cost compared to your other teammates(like seriously what ammo are you buying? Nail gun ammo, eviscerator blades, or pulverizer shots pretty much all you could buy!). If the rest of the team dies early and you're left with their leftovers of over 100 zeds, you bet your ass you want a fast berserker or fast medic to take care of that