Rich Eisen on Why Teams Passed on Lamar Last Offseason and Why They All Probably Regret It

[@MordechaiKarp]

Am I the only one who remembers Rich spending the whole off-season explaining why no one wanted Lamar?

[@truthbearer7891]

These last few videos has inspired me to archive all of them. 🤣 So far here are a couple of highlights of Gems. How about 8 for #8. 1) He wanted his Jets to Pursue Rodgers over Lamar 2) He wanted his Jets to Pursue Derek Carr of Lamar 3) He said that the Falcons shouldnt pursue Lamar because it could offend Desmond Ridder 4) He said the Commanders shouldn't pursue Lamar because it could offend Sam Howell 5) He said he didn't want to traffic in rumor but constantly pushed unsubstantiated rumor that Lamar had bad eating habits 6) He said that it was unreasonable for any team to give up 2 1st round picks for Lamar 7) He said the only reason Lamar didn't repeat his MVP season was that season was a fluke or that he couldn't stay healthy (never left room for it being due to coaching/cast) 8) He denied Greg Roman could have been the problem since Lamar won an MVP with him. So if you're wondering why he's giving so much pushback and pretending it's hindsight because of how foolish he and Chris looks.

[@mrmone6023]

@@truthbearer7891 I agree 💯 ur spot on point with this one…wish there were a bigger audience to hear this!!!! Facts 😈😈😈

[@checkboy8]

FACTS !!!! Lol

[@WillKnapp18]

Im going to echo what JJ Watt said on Pat McAfee.... "Every GM that didn’t attempt a trade for Lamar Jackson should be fired."

[@lnss8775]

Chiefs, Bengals, Eagles, n Bills are excused from the conversation

[@robertosborn9910]

So is every team that just didn't have the Cap space, or ownership that probably didn't have the cash to place his gaurteed money in escrow. There are various reasons why some teams couldn't pursue Lamar. What doesn't make sense is why NOBODY would pursue him.

[@kiyanwest149]

@@lnss8775 agreed or if you were in cap hell but if you had cap and didn't have a young talent like a cj stroud etc you should be fired especially the falcons

[@jedwing]

Did any team look at what he did in college? Getting better every year? his passing in a pro style offense? His running ability? Man, one of the biggest race-based whiffs of all time.

[@antoinemays1859]

Rich is part of the system…

[@number1chiefROKKA]

that part. smh.

[@carswell807]

I normally like Eisen, but what the hell? Eating Habits and Studying Problems? Lamar doesn't have a weight or stamina issue. Its funny, when player are negotiating all of sudden, they are problematic. Collusion happened at the top, because he doesn't have an agent. NFL sent all their "correspondence" (ESPN, Rich Eisen) the new message, "Lamar isn't playing ball, he is a problem". Got Rich looking foolish with this eating habit take

[@warriorjennings2733]

On me!! I was like he ain't Zion. The fk Rich talkin bout. And I love Rich Eisen

[@PD-qu8dq]

Exactly. How was it a problem when Lamar potentially wanted $200+ million but Herbert with an 0-1 playoff record, No mvp, no win-loss record like Lamar AND Burrow with two Seasons of being out for the rest of the season and two #1 receivers got $218+ and $219 million guaranteed, we heard Nothing about it🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ Nothing about that crippling the team, nothing about them not able to add more weapons, outside of Burrows very good weapons and Herbert’s Very good weapons. Nothing about the Owner not being able to survive and the team going down hill because Lamar Negotiated a $200+ million dollar to fully guaranteed deal without an agent.

[@truthbearer7891]

Rich was carrying water for the league owners and he also just didn't want Lamar on his Jets. It's hilarious if you go into the archives of all the videos he has on this topic. He wanted not only Aaron Rodgers but even Derek Carr on the Jets over Lamar. He said that the Falcons/Commanders shouldn't pursue because it could offend Desmond Ridder or Sam Howell. He of course pushes the idea that Lamar's MVP season wasn't repeated because it was either a fluke or he couldn't stay healthy. Left no room for the option that Greg Roman was holding him back. Just like he said teams that Lamar went to would have to completely overhaul their offense, as if Lamar isn't capable of making throws that a Mariota/Ridder could make on the Falcons. It's all laughable and ppl like Rich keep doubling down making it look worse.

[@achoo9165]

This doesn’t make sense at all. Even Rich doesn’t believe this take. On the one hand it’s Lamar only has 1 playoff win, he keeps getting hurt, teams have to restructure everything to make him effective/have to give up too much to get him BUT Ravens would 100% match?! What about that description sounds like someone Ravens dying to keep? The teams (and Rich) are embarrassed that his play and likely MVP win exposes their collusion so now scrambling for reasons to justify

[@miwawilliams1339]

Exactly... it makes no sense. Worse than all the teams not even trying us all the bs excuses & justifications now. We all know teams have people they talk to when they want to put a statement out without putting it on their letterhead. At least 5 teams made it known within hours that they were not even going to try... that they had no interest. That's deliberate. And disrespectful.

[@Benjamin-fc9ww]

Rich, you listed a multitude of reasons why teams shouldn’t go after Lamar back then and none of them were legitimate reasons not to go after Lamar. None!

[@Niex_Knox]

Is it so hard to say "dang Lamar really made me look stupid this season".

[@OGMeatball]

There’s a video of Lamar dropping back looking to pass left handed , switching stances on a dime and dropping a 75 yard TD to Zay . I wonder if that was Quaterbacky enough for the haters 😈🖤

[@zach177]

There will always be haters no matter what. No QB is liked by everyone

[@AJCsr]

​@@zach177 Dude, shut up !

[@JackWelsh34]

Because NFL owners weren’t about to reward a strong, independent black man who represented himself throughout the entire process

[@whoisskywalker]

🤣 Facts. If they reward him, then other players would follow his footsteps.

[@John-bu4ik]

Rich is company man mode

[@truthbearer7891]

It's a few factors at work in addition to that. Rich Eisen wanted Derek Carr or Aaron Rodgers on the Jets over Lamar. A take that looks so ridiculous in hindsight to rationalize it has to pretend it's hindsight or that Lamar was never really available. He's also a huge Joe Burrow fan and one who has asserted that it's Mahomes/Burrow the next decade plus. That's why he's been doubting Lamar and the Ravens all year. Lamar cementing himself as the clear cut true rival for QB of this era adds an even greater layer to the disappointment. Im not saying Rich is a full blown hater, but lets just say he may not be pulling for the Ravens to go all the way.

[@marejhae7281]

Please stop saying his mom was his agent she was his advisor Decosta said he was negotiating directly with Lamar Jackson

[@richstrobel]

"Why didn't anybody take the chance?" I know a Falcons fan who probably asked that question about his team.

[@matthewmcdermott3760]

Everyone underestimates Lamar. I remember watching his first game at UL in that bowl game. I knew us Louisville natives had something special right away, and to see him slip in the draft and not be pursued in free agency was completely mind blowing. Love Lamar he deserves a statue on campus.

[@ctg404]

Nah it's the game for vs Fsu for me

[@warriorjennings2733]

Was LJ not throwing spirals in that Bobby patreno (Paterno?) Offense? I remember him throwing real dots. I'm a CU Buff so not locked into Louisville like that. I'm trying to see where the narrative he can't throw came from. Like what did Pollian see to make him say he should be a WR vs a QB

[@bryanflores3633]

I think these “professionals” legitimately don’t know how to design an offense for him or are simply unwilling to try. Roman and Monken were excited to get creative to do something different and we all see how it’s going.

[@jedwing]

Facts. People believed the talk and the rumors and not their lying eyes.

[@matthewmcdermott3760]

@@ctg404FSU game showed it but his first game in that bowl game as a freshman he had 200+ passing and 200+ rushing yards. Can’t remember how many TDs but he dominated. FSU game definitely raised that bar though

[@petaaaaa1234]

What's got me convinced is three things. 1. no other team thought they could 1-up the contract offer + OC hire that BAL would match / already gave 2. the injury history meant too high potential for total failure 3. other teams expected EDC to simply get it done

[@egreene]

He was acting as his own agent. Really tough to open that pandoras box, because he is now intimately aware of your gms negotiating style

[@PD-qu8dq]

He sees how shrewd they really are. Everyone was attacking Lamar for potentially wanting $200+ million guaranteed but said nothing when Herbert and Burrow got $218 million and $219 million guaranteed, respectively

[@abc_12333]

Lamar's mom was his agent (NOT his own). That was SMART because a good amount of the money goes to his family.

[@marejhae7281]

@@abc_12333 she was his advisor he was the one negotiating Decosta said he was negotiating directly with Lamar

[@onesession27]

You can't say they would've never gotten Lamar if no one didn't even try lol. Rich taking a huge L in this debate. The QB needy teams are dumb and the Ravens won off those team's stupidity

[@miwawilliams1339]

Listening to this I've lost respect for Rich...& more firmly believe there was deliberate collusion around Lamar's contract negotiations. You keep standing up for yourself, young man. You are an incredible example of leadership & humility... plus also an elite QB. GO RAVENS!!

[@Mindag13]

A bunch of teams came out and said they didn’t want Lamar. Look at what Arthur Smith said

[@scruffd0g193]

Rich has it all wrong here, Ravens were never ever gonna trade Lamar and not match any other offer.

[@9doggie12]

But teams didn’t say that lol the teams explicitly said they didn’t believe in Lamar

[@PD-qu8dq]

If a team came in with $260, with $231 guaranteed, would the ravens have matched.

[@Sportsguy0258]

Eating issues for a QB who have ran for over 5k yds and studying huh. Lol sure Rich

[@michaelbrown-ws1pc]

I'm pretty sure you've thrown some BS up against the wall and hoped it stuck 😂

[@kiyanwest149]

eating issues as if he is out of shape or fat dude is probably the lightest qb in the league lmaoo wtf

[@JackWelsh34]

Rich out here peddling the company memo

[@antoinemays1859]

Facts

[@truthbearer7891]

It's that plus he has to revise history for not feeling foolish for wanting QBs like Derek Carr or Aaron Rodgers over Lamar on his Jets. So he has to convince himself it's only hindsight or that Lamar was never really available.

[@nikhilcheerharan6085]

Even if teams would've never had a chance at him, they could've raised the price the ravens would've had to pay, handicapping the ravens cap space. Collusion makes the most sense here

[@mrmone6023]

Those rumors did not come from the castle

[@nrkgalt]

The Ravens would have matched any rational offer another team signed Lamar Jackson to. The only way the Ravens don’t match is if a team signs him to a ridiculously high offer, like the $300 million guaranteed that Adam Schefter threw out there. A team would then not have enough to build a high quality rest of the roster.

[@PD-qu8dq]

That’s Not True. All they needed to do was give him $300 with $231 guaranteed. Puts him at $60 per year for a 5 year or $50 per year for a 6 year. Lamar has shown throughout his career that he doesn’t need playmakers to win, he just needs them competent and not dropping easy passes and touchdowns. Lamar could take the terrible patriots to the playoffs. Do you think Lamar and Saquon or Lamar and Scary Terry wouldn’t be a site to see? Aaron Rodgers would have had Davante Adams in Green Bay while he was making $50 million, only if he made it clear he was staying in Green Bay. That would have been a top 5 paid quarterback and the highest paid wide receiver in the league, on the same team. The browns had not only Deshaun but also the Highest paid Defensive player and the highest paid person outside of the top 10-15 quarterbacks in the league. Burrow just got 275 and will still have mixon, and chase, he may lose Higgins but he still has better weapons than Lamar

[@treefiddy209]

Raiders never do anything right, but it was just LV and Carolina that showed interest.

[@carltonmobley8718]

Yes, they were really going to keep Lamar, but I still agree with Adam. There was no challenge at all all of them proudly said that they were not taking Lamar so please stop.

[@cherylcheryl6274]

Still sense anti Lamar tone from Rich just doesn't like to give Lamar his flowers but he praises the likes of Brock Purdy

[@davidbrittian7340]

Could it be that the Baltimore Ravens sent a memo to the league that no matter what you offer we will match you!

[@PD-qu8dq]

Or it said, he doesn’t have an agent and he wants more guarantees than Deshaun, don’t trade for him because we need to prove a point.

[@EJD339]

Imagine if the Browns would have went after Lamar Jackson instead of Deshaun Watson

[@mt_baldwin]

The trade offer wasn't serious. The Ravens were trying to use other teams to break the stalemate in contract talks with LJ's mom. As in another team makes an offer and the Ravens swoop in to top it. There was like a %0.5 chance Lamar ended up on another team, maybe if some other team offered up a Watson style contract but bigger then MAYBE it might've happened.

[@davidwilson1812]

Dude wanted a fully guaranteed contract and teams knew that. The fully guaranteed contract was the dealbreaker. End of story.

[@sclasspromo]

Makes no sense because he didn’t end up signing a fully guaranteed

[@williejohnson5172]

The moment a sheep says, "Well all the teams knew he wanted a fully guaranteed contract" or "All the teams knew the Ravens weren't going to give him up" immediately admitts the teams colluded otherwise how would they know these so-called facts. But sheep don't understand this . They just baa baa out the propaganda mindlessly.

[@siniister710]

Even if they think the ravens would match it, make them match it.

[@kimkimmers3530]

Wasn't the thing that Lamar wanted the Watson contract but no team (other than the Browns) was willing to pay that astronomical price at the time? To this date no one has the guaranteed money that Watson has.

[@PD-qu8dq]

Lamar signed for $185 burrow signed for $219, Herbert 218. No team besides the ravens know what he wanted. That’s the point. If Patrick mahomes was up, would most teams atleast call to see what the number is?

[@dirediredude]

Nope. Nobody knows what Lamar actually wanted because it never leaked. We all were just speculating and ran with it.

[@lnss8775]

Watson's contract is NOT the same situation. He got his contract for a reason

[@mikesmithh]

Rich you work for the NFL. You know any team that would have signed Lamar the Ravens would have matched the offer because he was a restricted free agent. You know that, and every owner knew that.

[@sully6172]

Collusion among owners. Next.

[@Ksams098]

All the other teams knew the Ravens were going to match their offer so why would they work for the Ravens?

[@jayseaborg3895]

Because the Ravens would have to match their offer, so why not make the Ravens pony up more money than they want to?

[@PD-qu8dq]

So if They gave Lamar what he wanted was the Ravens going to match it? 5 years $260, with $200-$235 million guaranteed. I think Lamar would have let Deshaun Keep the Total Guaranteed record of $230(46 per year) if you gave him the Highest per year average and the highest total but giving him atleast $200 to $220 million guaranteed. 5 year $260 million($52 per year, with $210 guaranteed) would of got Lamar from the ravens, if it went through before the Herbert or Burrow deals

[@edscott4729]

"Information men and women" used to be called "reporters." New title, same job.

[@bobsburgers8885]

No one in their right mind was going to pay what Lamar wanted AND give up draft picks. It's too much.

[@PD-qu8dq]

Facts, it’s not like it happened before.🙃 Trey lance was three first rounds Deshaun was three Wilson was a couple

[@bohammondlee7472]

​@@PD-qu8dqalso an unproven Herbert got more and injury plagued Burrow. I wonder if Stephen A think they worth they money.

[@sclasspromo]

A 2X MVP with a 75% winning record isn’t worth it… but Deshaun Watson was 😂 go Sit in the corner.

[@bobsburgers8885]

@@sclasspromo just because the browns did something stupid doesn't mean that everyone else has to follow along. The big contract PLUS two first rounders is too much for anyone. You either use the first rounders to draft your own star (plenty of good QBs on last year's draft and this one) and get them cheap for a few years before you pay up, or you pay up for someone who you know is good now. You don't give away the picks AND pay. It's one or the other. A team that does both is poorly run.

[@zacharyrussell360]

Everyone forgets that he missed half of the last two seasons and was 1-4 in the playoffs. There was a legitimate reason why people had cold feet on him last year.

[@Jonathanstockwell]

He doesn’t show up in the big games, he proved that again. Also I would rather pick something he like Caleb Williams or someone in the draft. He’s not worth the cost, again win the big games first.

[@mrgannon]

Arthur Blank should have just said "We don't think he's really available" but they 100% did the right thing given how little talent the Falcons had (have). Jessie Bates almost single-handedly made this defense for real, they are paying him 17 million dollars a year that would have belonged to Lamar. Our best corner AJ Terrell is gonna get north of 20 million this offseason, also money that would belong to Lamar. Two first round picks plus the giant contract would have put a hard cap on the Falcons. We don't have near the talent on the other side Baltimore does even after adding Bates.

[@5000G-x2z]

Fans like you are the reason they are not winning

[@mrgannon]

@@5000G-x2z Brain-dead takes like thinking a comment on a youtube video or anything like it affect the product on the field are why other countries dunk on our education system.

[@PD-qu8dq]

Lamar has carried worse. Lamar hasn’t always had this good of a defense

[@sclasspromo]

You’re right keep that mentality and stay 8-9 7-10 in perpetuity

[@mrgannon]

@@sclasspromo Yes the only way the Falcons could escape mediocrity is to pay an often injured player so far above market rate that the team that knows him best cant retain him, while losing two draft picks, and losing out on marque free agents to build up the other side of the ball. And I dont see why Atlanta is being singled out like its the only team with QB issues. Arthur Blank wasnt the only person asked about Lamar who said no thanks. Having witnessed how the Watson and Wilson trades went for the teams that traded them it would have been like seeing two guys walk across a field and get blown up, while thinking "It'll be different for me :)" and going across it yourself. The Falcons can get Fields on the cheap OR draft a guy they like. It's not Lamar or NOTHING, and never was. + Lamar - Bijan - Our Defensive free agents - our 2024 1st rounder isn't sniffing a division title much less a Superbowl.

[@tyrellchance2344]

At the end of the day the NFL colluded against Lamar and the Ravens still ended up paying him whether it’s because he’s black or the fact that he can run they tried to devalue him. It didn’t work because besides Pat there is no one better than him. The NFL hates it possibly because of a marketing issue when it comes to black running QBs. This is why they push bums like Daniel Jones and Brock Purdy. The bottom line comes before skill. These talking heads don’t like Lamar either because he makes them look stupid just like this Rich guy. To conclude it’s a marketing issue NFL teams aren’t necessarily being racist they just believe that the white QB is more profitable also I don’t believe the offensive coordinators really know what to do with athletic QBs of any kind. Jalen hurts jersey sales proved the NFL’s theory in marketing is null we just have to wait for the league to catch up to the players and then this won’t be an issue.

[@zacharydavis4398]

0:00 - 5:20 Hey get Richie to say the word … like unrelated to the topic at hand - just curious if the word “collusion” is in Eisens vocabulary 🤔 like not even related to the Lamar thing - just say the word “collusion” for the people !

[@CAPAE]

His next video with Adam Schefter, they actually put the word in the video title.

[@johnclark2134]

So Rich you not finna act like you were part of the not trading for Lamar and talking down on him.

[@randyquinn5277]

After someone "leaked" the lowball offer to Stephen A Smith, teams probably didn't want any part of the circus

[@TheFifapro44]

The word rhymes with "delusion"

[@carltonmobley8718]

Joe Burrow missed more games than Lamar Jackson, but Lamar Jackson gets beat up for missing games, and he missed less than Joe Burrow. Yes, Joe Burrow took them to the Super Bowl and lost. And every time Joe Burrow faces Lamar guess what he does he loses. And why we still using what I call lame excuses, or reasons for not wanting to take Lamar no matter what happened one thing was for sure and two things for certain he’s going to recover from his injuries which he has and he’s going to be dynamic that’s number two number three Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jaylin, Hertz, and all and and and including Patrick Mahomeshave superstar elite receivers and in his 2019 MVP season give me the name of the superstar elite receiver that Lamar played with. He literally dragged the team on his back so come on y’all stop with all this excuses for these teams they came who comes out on the very same day that the thing was now and make it very and in fact, I watched all of them, and some of them said they’re so empathetically, and some of them said with so much arrogance that they did not want Lamar and some of them now being fired those same teams losing their job the dumbest thing I ever heard heard

[@Doobernicus]

collusion. those teams were trying to help the ravens drive his price tag down.

[@MarkDighe]

Compared to Purdy, Lamar has 693 fewer yards, 10 fewer TDs, 2.0 fewer yards/attempt, 15 points lower passer ratting, 8.7 points lower QB rating, 2.5 points lower completion %, has been sacked 8 more times, and is #9 in passer rating

[@PD-qu8dq]

CMC is the first team all pro running back and could have been an MVP with 2000 plus total yards. Kittle is an all pro tight end, has 1000 yards receiving. Deebo is an all pro wide receiver, has almost a 1000 yards receiving but has over a 1000 total yards this year. Aiyuk is a thousand yard receiver. Lamar lost his all pro tight end, his #1 running back, his wide receivers have been had the drops and injury issues all season. The leading rusher on the ravens is Lamar. The wide receivers have had multiple games of dropping easy touchdowns. His top receiver has 850+ yards. But he still has gave his team every opportunity to be undefeated right now. He went undefeated after losing his #1 target and best weapon. And finally, after just 16 games, he wrapped up home field, #1 seed, best record in the league, with one game to go. If that ain’t the mvp, I don’t know what an mvp is.

[@ronreith5185]

Really no story here ... the Ravens were never letting Lamar go, so as another team why waste your time. The Ravens threw rumors out there to hopefully affect Lamar, but it didn't work & Lamar got the big bank .... without an agent

[@williejohnson5172]

"The Ravens threw rumors out there to hopefully affect Lamar," That's called collusion. Huge story here.

[@callvin76]

Am I dumb or has he not articulated any actual point at all in the first 4 minutes of talking. He never got in to WHY a team would not even TRY to get a young free agent QB in his prime. He have every team bail and he damn near lies. I remember team after team came out and said they will not pursue Lamar!!! Washington, Seattle, like WTF is Eisen talking about?

[@williejohnson5172]

Rich. What teams made Lamar an offer? Case closed.

[@georgefernandes6091]

Team concerned about Lamar’s eating and studying ….smh I guess the presenter just wants clicks and views for the channel 😂

[@jeanfourcade]

Last year and all pre-season, the media were relentlessly villifying Lamar and Tua for being "injury prone" and of dubious reliability. They've both just completed 16 games without so much as a cramp. Does anyone still take any of those talking puppets serously?

[@supermario8175]

What is this man talking about? If a team was to go high they could've gotten him but they all knew they didn't want to establish a new president. If they did offer they would all low ball him to keep salaries down. At the end of the day they were all working together. They'll use one playoff win against Lamar but justify Justin Herbert to a 250 million contract

[@jjboys215]

It's called collusion...

[@whoisskywalker]

Company man Rich Eisen 😂 NFL got you in a chokehold my brother

[@saynomoremedia7463]

Rich is bugging Lamar was always a superstar

[@joerhinehart2980]

Lamar didn't have other teams try to acquire his services, because they all knew Lamar wasn't leaving the ravens , pretty simple

[@buffalosoldier19d42]

Collusion

[@MelvinBagby]

It's a perfect case on both sides of "don't watch what they say, watch what they do." There is some smoke there, but at this point I don't see why it matters on the collusion side. On the Ravens side, were they "involved" in the collusion - don't know. I DO know based on what they did they were always going to end up with Lamar back in place and on the team. Maybe both are true.

[@williejohnson5172]

"but at this point I don't see why it matters on the collusion side." And this is exactly what they want well meaning but slow fans to believe. If the Ravens and NFL owners colluded then THEY ROBBED AND DEFRAUDED LAMAR JACKSON OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@coachjones6104]

Authur Smith lost his job not wanting to offend Desmond Ridder. He just exited stage left. Ron Rivera lost his job not wanting to offend Sam Howel. The Raider coach lost his job because of his QB. Karma is a biatch wearing stilettos and voguing down the runway to show them the door.

[@mikelliteras397]

First of all I doubt Baltimore would’ve let him go so other owners would’ve just been jacking up his price after being stung by what Cleveland just did. I wouldn’t have gone after him for 2 reasons. The first being he quit on his teammates. I don’t think his injury was enough to end a season and he made it sound like whether he was healthy or not, he wasn’t playing until he got paid. Secondly, he still wasn’t that good of a passer or at reading defenses. Turns out he needed a different offense but I still don’t want my $50 mil QB running as much as he does. In the pocket he’s so much more protected than running. Watching these running qbs get beat up week after week would be too nerve wracking. He’s been much better at getting down instead of trying to score on every play, but still. The way they’re going they should make it to at least the afc championship game. We’ll see. 1 playoff win is pretty rough, as good as their team has been. Tho this year their defense is #1 even tho he’s not on top of any qb stats, he doesn’t have to be.

[@5000G-x2z]

Image the Atlanta Falcon with Lamar Jackson their running back and TE and the Ravens new OC who coached Georgia. I blind man could see those wins. These owners are not good business men they just know how to use the system

[@mrgannon]

How do we draft Bijan after giving up our 2023 first round pick?

[@truthbearer7891]

THey would literally still have Allgier who was a 1000 yard back even with Ridder/Mariota. They would still have Pitts and London and would have owned the NFC South for a decade plus but that was too much like right. @@mrgannon

[@beeslikesteve]

I’ve always believed in Lamar.

[@adampasser7652]

I dunno probably the giving up of 2 1st round picks and a giant contract that until this year finished the year injured and has no winning history in the playoffs…. Its kinda a huge risk that you’re looking back on with 20/20 hindsight

[@finzoor]

brother in christ deshaun watson got 250 guaranteed after missing two years. miss me with that

[@adampasser7652]

@@finzoor and no one thinks that was a good move, they’re doing better with Flacco at QB right now. I’m not saying Lamar doesn’t deserve to be one of the highest paid QBs but to act like teams not giving away 2 first round picks on top of the huge contract on a guy who was before this year objectively injury prone by the end of the season, isn’t some wild statement.

[@Zikk0_o]

ShAmE oN tHe TeAmS wHo PaSsEd On LaMaR. Now do you see why????? Lamar ain't that guy. Excuses incoming.

[@x6orpolx209]

Teams didnt "pass" on lamar. he was never available.

[@truthbearer7891]

Keep carrying water for the owners. A few teams like the Falcons could have given Lamar a deal that would have been next to impossible for the Ravens to match without gutting their entire roster. And for a guy who was only a year or two older than Desmond Ridder it would have been more than worth it.

[@TheFifapro44]

He was available for the low price of two 1st round picks, teams have and will continue to spend far more to find a guy with half the talent of Lamar but a 25 year old former MVP is there for the picking & nobody even looks his way 😂 bunch of 🤡's

[@didisethema137]

Eating habits...utter bs eisen never thought I'd see bs on this channel...u sold bro

[@zach177]

Lamar’s injury history was a big factor plus you need to already have a great team around you to add a guy like Lamar as the final piece. A lot of teams have way more issues than just needing a QB

[@jjboys215]

Ok, but an elite Quarterback advances your team real quick...

[@shawnhall6413]

The Ravens built this team. So how can you say that. Since Lamar’s been in the league he’s had a bottom half wr core and GRo had him running to much. Now new OC and scheme, better wrs, better coaches and no injury 2 Lamar. He on a tear against the league. So what u just said is false cause this team has been mostly home grown through the draft, sprinkled with some good vets and 2 great free agent signings. Lamar was never leaving in the first place and teams knew it. I don’t care what anyone says the Ravens were going to match any offer made.

[@sgtbaker81]

Five years at 260 million. 180 million guaranteed. It's easy to spend other people's money.

[@poseyjames4365]

Ravens and Eagles big investments in Jackson and Hurts lookin' a lot better than the big investments the Bengals and Chargers made. Jackson winning 75% and Hurts winning over 70% of their NFL starts in the NFL. Only Mahomes wins more than those two amongst quarterbacks with 4 or more years of NFL experience.

[@PD-qu8dq]

Why was Lamar the bad guy for wanting $200+ million guaranteed to $230 million guaranteed But Herbert and Burrow got 218 and $219 million guaranteed and are done for the year but we don’t hear people asking are they worth their contracts?

[@TaTanka362]

Rich is right. Was never going to happen. Read the Shook story 1/19/23 and the quotes from Harbaugh… 200% sure it’s gonna get done, etc. Aside from being magnified by all the media attention during off season with nothing else to talk about, the negotiating dance gets very complicated when a generational super star represents himself. He did OK! Thank goodness. Ravens are certainly “less than” without him. And as good as he is, he would be “less than”somewhere else.

[@PD-qu8dq]

That’s Not True. Do you think Lamar would have signed the Herbert deal? Another team could have offered that deal

[@williejohnson5172]

Only the last 10 seconds of this ridiculous silly bilge being spouted by Eisen makes any sense.

[@jdm1039]

Because he is 1-3 in playoff games?

[@abc_12333]

Peyton Manning was 0-3 in his first 3 playoff games. Kirk Cousins is 1-4 in the playoffs. Dak is 2-4 in the playoffs. Matt Stafford took 13 years to win a playoff game. NOTHING unusual about slow starts in the playoffs. TRY AGAIN!!!!

[@jdm1039]

@@abc_12333 Were those QBs nominated or mentioned in the MVP category with those records? That's my point.

[@abc_12333]

@@jdm1039 Huh?? Being mentioned in the MVP category is a POSITIVE NOT a negative. MVP means most VALUABLE player. If a slow start in the playoffs is NOT unusual, then teams should want Lamar

[@jdm1039]

@abc-ob3eu I understand what MVP is. I've heard his name mentioned multiple times over several years as an MVP candidate. Sometimes very early in a season and the talking head sports announcers talk about it all season. I am not saying he isn't a good quarterback. My statement is what has he done or accomplished to earn it?

[@abc_12333]

@@jdm1039 But again: Kirk Cousins (1-4 in the playoffs) became the HIGHEST paid player in the NFL!! Dak (2-4) also got a huge contract. Justin Herbert (ZERO playoff wins) also got a huge contract! So why on earth are you singling out Lamar???? Lamar is 3RD ALL-TIME in winning percentage and 3rd ALL-TIME in points per game!

[@greysaku]

Stooge....

[@catherinewilliams9680]

Lamar couldn't/won't be successful for any other offensive scheme.

[@saynomoremedia7463]

He is now what are you saying

[@PWOODTO900]

Lmaooo woman stop talking about football you don’t know what you’re talking about😂😂 he’s in a new system right now

[@lnss8775]

False. This is his first yr with his OC in a new scheme

[@Shansman]

That's just dumb. 1st year in New system.

[@rickyaustin7835]

I believe that most passed on him because of the same reason we see the chiefs in. When you put all of ones money on a QB you have very little left for any other talent to put around them. Very few are like a Tom Brady and willing to take less to have better players to work with.

[@dstov9544]

Bruh cut the 🧢. Brady was making a lot of money off the field and was married to a woman who made 3x as much money as he did, that’s why he was able to take a pay cut. And the guys they surrounded him with wasn’t the greatest talent. I think it gets overlooked a lot that Brady played with a lot of castoffs, he only played with 2 superstars tbh and that was Gronk and Randy.

[@dstov9544]

Btw I’m just speaking on his NE tenure because in TB he had 3 stud receivers and Gronk to top it off (⏸️)

[@rickyaustin7835]

@@dstov9544 You have made my point.

[@dstov9544]

@@rickyaustin7835 I actually made the opposite of your point lmao Brady took less and still got surrounded by truly piss poor talent he never truly played with Uber talented guys like I said besides Randy and Gronk so your point makes no sense he was playing with dudes like the receivers for the Chiefs rn

[@truthbearer7891]

Mahomes inherited a loaded team from day one. Lamar had the 3rd highest win pct in NFL history even before he ever got a legit weapon. Lamar on the Falcons would have had better weapons than he had even on his rookie deal. Lamar is built different in how he can elevate a team even without top level weapons in ways that Mahomes can only dream of because of the added dimension he brings to the game that threatens a defense with his legs even on plays he doesn't use them