AMG M156 VS M157 Showdown

[@paschulzke]

As an AMG V8 nerd I recommend to preserve M156 + M113K cars as long as you can, just because of these fantastic engines.

[@nirfz]

As a M156 owner: am trying, mine is 14 years now and gets a new passenger side valve cover gasket today.

[@strykz63]

I agree.. these engines if well kept will go up in value as they get harder to find. I have a 2003 S55 im trying to preserve it to the best of my ability 😊

[@Wildeheart79]

@@strykz63 There's no way to keep those engines well, especially if you enjoy them while you have them. Sooner or later those heat transitions will crack the aluminium block and then you're out of fun and in for a big bill if you can even get a replacement by the time it happens. Enjoy your money trap

[@strykz63]

@@Wildeheart79 listen.. you most certainly can keep them. Im a Mercedes mechanic went to school for mercedes and work on these day in day out. You most certainly can keep them

[@JadeaRS4]

You obviously have zero clue

[@alonzoharris222]

Both phenonomenal engines. M156 best suited to C Class and sports cars, M157 best suited to E and CLS class. Both sound phenomenl to me in different ways.

[@chrisgoat6435]

Not mentioning a 221 is criminal.

[@chrisgoat6435]

@335is Doesn't matter with proper care.

[@PJSTi]

Nope👎

[@binaryerrol1408]

Lets not lie to ourselves the only reason everyone loves the m156 is because the m157 was never installed in a c63. Tuned and bare stock, nothing beats the m157 including the useless m177. 🤣 I just love the war I am about to start in these comments, Truth is Truth!

[@shawndon7374]

​@@binaryerrol1408lol you think you said something? M156 is a pure bred race engine with a closed deck design. With fbo your already passed 600 hp. A supercharger on it and its game over for m157. Not to mention on a track m156 is better. Mercedes stayed using that engine in racecars till about 2 years ago.

[@bretthiggins7788]

Purchased a year ago a stock 2008 c63 sedan m156 with 40000km Watched tasos channel and decided to keep stock but the make engine last as long as possible with doing the following Oil catch can a must Remove the rubber around and below intake manifold Installed black series lifters or buckets Stage one cam adjuster plates from 63 motor sports Canada New plugs and stock pulleys all round Change oil every 5000km with high zinc oil and add liqui moly ceratec oil additive Trans oil and filter Pilot sport five feet Lsd wavetrac a must So much car for the money if you can find a straight one Drives amazing So tight Love the double mash on the go pedal to hear her scream up to 7200rpm No need for tune or exhaust upgrade as 451hp plenty enough to get you over the limit Love your channel Great videos Wanted to share Next service will replace injectors to be on the safe side

[@kaseyschutz]

I've always wanted the M157 for the tunability but I'm going on 140k+ miles on my S63 M156 and no issues... original head bolts, camshaft adjusters, cams and lifters! I never get tired of the brutal sound from the N/A! It's all about the maintenance and doing oil changes frequently imo! Great video as always! Very informative and unbiased!

[@thatmatty231guy]

Nice - good to Hear a high mileage 221 👍🏼👍🏼

[@kaseyschutz]

@@thatmatty231guy at around 100k miles I did all the fluids, suspension arms, belt, tensioner, pulleys, engine mounts, transmission mounts, fuel filter, guibo and center support bearing... hoping to get 200k+ miles out of her!

[@thatmatty231guy]

@@kaseyschutz nice, how is the ABC holding up? I have 221 s600 that I’ve rebuilt and it’s done nearly 200000km. 😁

[@kaseyschutz]

@@thatmatty231guy I bought some Ebay lower ball joints for the front struts but never put them in and the foam on the top hat is deteriorated... I wish I could source new struts for all 4 corners from Mercedes but haven't had any luck. I did fluid change 3 times now and accumulators/pulsation damper and everything works like it should and rides fairly smooth. Every once in a while if I leave it sitting for over a week in colder weather I get a yellow abc malfunction error that goes away after restart and letting the fluid warm up. But other than that no sag, no red errors, no noises or clunks

[@thatmatty231guy]

@@kaseyschutz ahh interesting! Man I have the same issue, the top hat deteriorated. I bought supposedly remanufactured units and they also deteriorated within weeks. So annoying and bizarre Mercedes doesn’t sell them. I think you can get them rebuilt but parts like the top hat god knows how to source them

[@AnontheGOAT]

In before someone starts bashing on the M157 and cylinder scoring/scuffing issues - there is a mega thread on MB World that has found the culprit. It’s the 2 stage oil pump. Specifically the solenoid that controls the flow of oil depending on operation. Here’s the good news: it can be disabled by just unplugging it in like 60 seconds at the bottom of the engine. KZbinr ExoticCarDIY also made a video on this. Just another stupid design choice all for the sake of marginal fuel savings and emission reduction.

[@samspace81]

His theory, I'll stick to Mercedes-AMG's original design with my S63

[@SamAbraham]

I was happy to find this out awhile ago as well, the only annoying part is buying a used one with 10s of thousands of miles already with that stupid solenoid plugged in maybe have already dealt significant damage. Would have to opt for a low mileage one regardless of records

[@armanamirov1070]

100%@@samspace81

[@eastbaystreet1242]

@@samspace81 Me too. I won't second guess them on this. Plus, I am only at 17K miles bone stock, so hopefully several years from having to worry about it.

[@Afronaut64]

I do love that turbo whistle of the M157,

[@H.S.H.M.]

Its so addicting! Deep AMG V8 rumble paired with turbos whistling, how can anyone not love that? Especially after adding downpipes!

[@Afronaut64]

@@H.S.H.M. i know right😮‍💨

[@amitxo]

Completely agree. I have a facelift W212 E63 with the M157 and I recently put a Weistec stage 2 tune on it, but the M156 (especially in the W204 C63) is just pure intoxication. Great comparison!

[@darvelllarickpowell]

I'll be getting that same tune for my w166 GLE63S REAL SOOOON!!!!

[@nirfz]

I have an E63 with the M156 for 10 years almost now. And i would not want to replace it with the M157 or even anything they make today. Just wanted to add something: the E63 with the M156 was only ever made with rwd, the one with the M157 was (at least here in europe) available with rwd or awd. That said, the M156 E63 with it's torque characteristic is surprisingly easy to drive in snow *with good winter tires* . One additional contributing factor to that is the hydraulic steering that was praised a lot for feedback and directness. I did not know that they went to eps with the change to the M157. (which makes me even more fond of my car)

[@AccentOnCars]

Great video as always 👍 As a long time m156 owner with 0 issues, I am currently working on video covering how to make your m156 run forever on AccentOnCars.

[@onedumbcriminal]

Love your content… I’m considering getting a cls55 with the m113k or a cls63 with the m156!

[@M157-04LLY]

I love my M157. ❤

[@alexandergutheil]

M156 all day - best V8 ever made imo

[@zf4hp24]

It's cool to see all the AMG logos on all the M156 castings and ancillary parts (like hoses, brackets, etc.) Not cheap though. I'm really worried about the intake manifold. Mine's slowly corroding into what I think will become a sieve. Maybe AMG can design us a plastic replacement?

[@MatthewC137]

And I'll take the stronger bottom end so it wins the reliability contest in my opinion.

[@alexandergutheil]

@@zf4hp24 agreed on the design and cost - though depending on your build year I think it would be important to keep in mind the age of the part. They're all about 10+ years old so I would personally just bite the bullet and get an OEM replacement both in terms of quality (ironic I know), fit and design - I wouldn't want to see a plastic part on the centre piece of the engine. Wondering if plastic is even doable considering the performance of the part and heat created under the hood, these engines do run rather hot. What which car do you have?

[@alexandergutheil]

@@MatthewC137 100%

[@jass7981]

No, it's not, lmfao. The new Z06 has the best V8 ever.

[@hassanaljumaili239]

This channel deserves all the views when it comes to Mercedes content

[@johnlowe2218]

Love these videos. My first choice of all AMG engines would be the M113K but second would have to be M156 for me.

[@CaliCaldwell_]

I agree with you. The M156 has a better sound which leads to an exciting driving experience despite having less power than its successor. Its certainly an AMG classic along with the M159

[@darvelllarickpowell]

As someone who's had several 157, 276(na & tt) & 278 stock & tuned, I'm loving them over the 156! Though the 156 is definitely louder & prouder, reminding me of my Scat 392, it's the composure of the turbo'd engines that got me hooked! Hearing those honeywell's in the 278 is what 1st got me, then the Garrett's in the 157 sealed the deal for life! I've even had a 176 in my S560 but didn't feel as good as my 278 in my S550. & those were all stock up til I heard of Weistec!!! I took my GLE350, GLE400 & S550 all to get tuned & man oh man, were they a hoot to scoot!!! I don't have any of those anymore, but the upgrades to GLE43 with the same tune & GLE63S stock are just as fun. I'm anxious to get that 157 tune for Obi though: my Obsidian black GLE63S. Takes to 715hp/775tq

[@chatwithaninja]

I've had them both. A C63 (totaled) and a CLS63 (sold). The M156 (C63) was my preferred even though the M157 (CLS63) was faster.

[@MR_stone69]

Why sell the cls63?

[@ocsi-V8]

Forever M156 engine!!! Forever V8 sound!!!❤️

[@Lorenzo-wl5xt]

Both are fantastic 6.2 changed the game. All the drug barons were into it. Arguably the best sounding V8, besides the F136 engine

[@markjones-vx3kp]

I’ve had both They’re both amazing ,they put out amazing power torque on 157 is massive ,it’s a beast but 156 must be respected for its power considering it’s NA .

[@smsunder]

Another great AMG comparison where I prefer the M156 after 2011. Thanks and always look forward to your videos on these awesome cars where I own a 2006 SLK55 AMG with the M113 NA engine and a 2013 S550 4matic with the M278 engine. NA's have a much better sound over the bi-turbo's.

[@darvelllarickpowell]

bro... get a tune from Weistec for the S... I did & it took it to 550hp/715tq... fun fun fun!!!

[@laithellabban]

Man i love those SLK55s. Drove one about a year ago. Really wanna get one someday

[@smsunder]

@@laithellabban I've had this one for over a year and have had it tuned and other things. It is fast where most people don't know what it is especially with the V8

[@tonychavez2083]

156 gets such a negative rap, I have seen several including my 11’ with 130K + miles with zero mechanical issues, extremely minimal intake cam lobe wear and cam adjusters still working fine. Not all 156’s have issues.

[@byronjones4635]

Owned both. M156 is my favorite by far. Just a lot more fun and playful, also feels at home on a track day. The M157 is good, but best uses in luxury applications or high horsepower builds.

[@richardpearson6321]

No replacement for displacement! The M156 is the winner! I'm a bias 09 C63 owner... last of the big block in a small Class that kicks Ass! Small block, small talk! Love the videos! Small block, small talk! Mopar (383) pedigree from birth in Detroit!

[@bjornaltmann8184]

"No replacement for displacement"......I have the Grand Daddy of Mercedes V8's, the might M100 in my 6.9! 😉😄......But I am kidding, not comparable with this rockets, but still remarkable in power delivery for an engine developed in 1958 for the mighty 600!

[@AutobahnVault]

I've owned many of both. M156 all day.

[@Edmspeed]

I own a p31 m156 but have driven a m157 e63. No comparison imo.. the m156 just moves your soul.

[@ataipacquiao5713]

If you tune M157 exhaust with no cats and muffler it will sound phenomenal. Very deep just like the roar of a tiger and turbo whistling in the end. You definitely should do that.

[@greydog1104]

I've got an m156 so of course that's my preference. Another issue with m157 is the oil pump solenoid starving oil to underside of pistons.

[@Erdnalexa]

The M156 doesn't make any sense in my R63, and I love it!

[@ghostwrench2292]

You have an R63? Never let that one go!

[@rich-tedfranklin2398]

The engine “noise” from the M157 is entirely the GDI setup. Every production GDI vehicle sounds like a diesel.

[@Ghamdanozzz]

I have 2015 E63 Biturbo. I do love turbo 😍

[@ejd1127]

I can really only base my feedback on Tasos’ channel but it seems like a non-tuned/RWD M157 is a pretty reliable motor. I still want both and leaning towards a M156 as my next motor in a C63. M157 E class thereafter. Cheers

[@rbrood267]

This is the best video to make up your mind

[@SkywardOne]

I always get a weird look when I tell people I prefer my NA M156 over later model turbo cars. Thinking with my heart (and my right foot) I know that we will never again see a large displacement NA V8 from Mercedes again. And that's part of the allure.

[@edwardwerley8831]

Both great engines. I’m leaning towards the M156 because I prefer the visceral feeling and sound of a NA car. With that said this is with the 2012+ C63 AMG. Luv that added Tasos content. Really enjoy his stuff too.

[@bobnovaes9363]

I love when I see a new video. I wish it could be at least a weekly occurrence.

[@automotive_passion]

I would clearly choose the M156, mostly because its NA engine with a big displacement, actually the biggest displacement V8 in Europe for many years, and second of all, because its becaoming more and more of a rarerity to have an NA engine, especially the likes of AMG. I am looking forward to buying the CL 63 AMG from 2009, last year of M156 engine.

[@jenschristianschmidt8049]

I love the M156 in my w204 C63 Performance (see my little picture). I tried a CLS63 5,5 biturbo, 800 NM and RWD. It's was a powerhouse! Wheelspin in many gears. The sound did not impress me tho. Sounded cool with turbo noise but absolutely not as cool as the crazy sound from the stock M156 essentially from the outside standing behind the car.

[@Prepyism]

I love my m157

[@roadkillrob6116]

I think you are spot on, pros and cons of each, I love my M156 especially for sound and the revs, but as turbo cars goes the M157 sounds really good and is just software away from 100+ more HP so that is super fun too!

[@basloohuis]

Dear AMG Meister, I have a 2008 (model 2009) ML63 AMG, so for me definitely the M156.

[@LeshVAuto]

As much I appreciate the 5.5L BiTurbo V8 M157, I am going have to go with the natural 6.3L M156.

[@Boguardis]

Should also add that in terms of bragging rights, the m156 is all motor and still keeps up with other v8's made these days. In fact I can't recall off the top of my head another NA v8 that makes MORE power than the almost 17 year old m156.

[@Boguardis]

Really just depends on what you value. If you value easy tunability you're going to lean towards the m157. If you want to build a badasss supercharged engine, you go with the m156. The m156 is a better street car because you can rev out the motor more. Both engines are reliable enough.

[@tubejorrit]

I drove an E63S before buying my C63S and the E was just a monster with all wheel drive, first time I was really scared/impressed with the acceleration from a car (I used to race motorcycles so normally speed doesn't scare me anymore). Shame about the problems with the m157 engines because they are great cars.

[@williewade1]

The 156 wins the exhaust note hands down. Deeper and throatier. Both sound great though.

[@samspace81]

I'm all in on the M157

[@edwardgreaves344]

I think you rigged it to make it a draw so you could give it to the M156! And I completely agree. These cars aren’t about what is rationally “best”

[@Califoryan]

The injector pulse ticking of the M157 has always been off putting to me.

[@tubejorrit]

most modern cars have it, comes with direct injection. My previous car, BMW 330i (N53 engine) also made the same noise.

[@amgtrnd2245]

As always another great and informative masterpiece. Having experienced both engines it is a very tough call. What make this decision easy is depending on what car you would like. Of course the C63 is a no brainer because it only has the M156. It gets difficult if you like the pre face lift W212. If you’re looking at 12-13 w212 then go with a 13 due to the updated cooling system and timing chain. If you go with a 12 then make sure the service records are good and seek out a low mileage example. The deciding factor for me simply came down to the interior updates in the 12-13 years. The color gauge cluster. The square shifter. Red brake calipers on the p30 package and the carbon fiber package. Plus like you mentioned the tuning capabilities of the m157. With the right exhaust system, the M157 comes alive.

[@ivaylojanati2294]

My choice is M156. I have great experience with him.

[@smOOdiebOOdie]

Love my M157 in my E63s wagon 😎✌🏻

[@Nate_tureboy]

I have a PresserTech Stage 2 modded M156 in my 07 ML63 AMG. It sounds awesome and is a dumb fast and fun little suv. People are always surprised by it

[@deeman7647]

Have you done any videos comparing AMG to AMG-S models and differences? I cant really find too much information on it

[@AilsaCraig0152]

2012 E63 (M157) base tune. After 180K km, had it dyno'd - 491 hp & 473 torque. Had MB upgrade tune done (cost $2500 Canadian).dyno'd afterwards at 550 hp and 720 torque. Car now has 197K km and has been very reliable for me(touch wood). I just wish the transmission shifted a bit sharper.

[@strykz63]

They have tunes for the transmission too.. i would definitely do it because those 722.9 in the 212 were a bit slow

[@AilsaCraig0152]

Thanks for the info...I'll definitely have to look into that.

[@SlowDriver2024]

I have both engines in my staple currently, and both are 100% stock. I agree with your final verdict of these engines 100%.

[@H.S.H.M.]

I've had 2 C63's with M156 (both PFL & FL) for a combined 8 years of ownership. I've had my E63 with the M157 for 5 years. I love both but M157 suits me better being its stage 2 tuned with downpipes. The passing power is effortless. Your W212 is a gem, but please tell me you'll add a M157 to your stable lol. I would like to point out the fact that you did ride in the lowest output M157s while in the much heavier wagon configuration lol. Also to the sound comparison, E63 wagons with the M157 came with 2 sets of resonators to further quiet it down while all other E63s/CLS63s sedans only have a single resonator. Love your vids though! Watching this vid in HD is making me fall in love with my W212 all over again

[@sanchezking6188]

The problem with the M157 and its M278 relative is that both are basically just turbo‘d M273s and that conversion didn’t really work. Quite bad responsiveness (especially setting off at a standstill), reluctant to rev, oil burn and leakage problems, wear of timing chain, etc. The M156 also has some issues, but it just works much better as it simply is what it was designed to be, rather than an extensive update totally changing the way an engine operates.

[@mauisuzuki7857]

Have you actually driven a m157! Because you definitely do not describe it correctly. “Bad responsiveness” eh? NO! The m157 has a crazy tq and those turbos get it their quickly the transmission is much better in every way!

[@akoust1c]

Lol easy to say for someone that doesn’t have a 157.

[@MrLg55555]

If you're thinking on buying a m157 equipped Mercedes, there's only one real choice... The CLS Shooting Brake AMG 63S preferably the 4 Matic if you live in Europe, but unfortunately for myself here in the UK it was Rwd only... An utterly beautiful car to the eye, with the drama and presence equaled only by a Maserati... Plus thundering performance that matches 911 turbos and the likes... Derestricted top speed just shy of 200mph, all in total luxury... Not forgetting handling on twisty roads that totally belies it's size and weight... Owning an E63S may give you the straight line speed and decent handling, but it's not to be mentioned in the same breath as the CLS...

[@nathanhoy2130]

Nothing is better than that M157 5.5L twin turbo.

[@Rbkeuropeanautorepair]

Why?

[@ukwan]

I know this is going to upset the internet but the 5.5L BiTurbo... That engine is a monster. 😮 Albeit I've only driven the: M117 5.6, 560 SEC M119 6.0, E60 AMG M113 5.0, CL 500 M177 4.0, E63S And of those my favourite was the M119 in the E60 AMG for sure.

[@nateyount7097]

just had two of my injectors stick open caused a terrible misfire(m156) but its all back to normal now. M157 is a beast pulls like a train down low tapers off towards the higher end very reminiscent of the m113k I feel very fortunate to have had the privilege to have all 3 of these AMG motors and they are all unique and have their own quirks.

[@kauseztm2606]

gotta do a video on m177 and m157

[@xxkai45xx48]

m113 ftw lol had none of the problems and still most of the positives m156 sounds a bit better m113 sounds better then m157 m113 way more reliable then both combined m113k can make just as much if not more power with pulley and tune they are way cheaper less tech and more dated interior tho i still love it seats are imo the best my weapon of choice would be w220 s55 amg lighly modified and abc converted to sport coils i think thats the best of all worlds except handling m156 507 would be sweet but too much maintenance and issues imo with 7 speed and high maintenance demanding motor im sticking with m113 5 speed combo as imo besides the old v12s and w124s are the best benz

[@BobBenz55]

My favourite engine has to be M113K, I have the V12 M275 SL600 but for me M113K. For my W124’s all are M104’s 😇

[@xxkai45xx48]

@@BobBenz55 cant go wrong with em !!!

[@thamsanqagift8662]

I'd go for the M156 ❤

[@mohammadsalimullah6323]

Many thanks for your very informative video! Kindest regards, Respect!

[@ruvimbelarus]

What about the turbos on m157 I’ve been hearing they bleed oil after 40-100k miles? Might be with people not warming up engines and not cooling them off before shutting down Ik that kills turbos. Planning on getting CLS with m157

[@Troy-McLore]

Thank you for this, please can you do a M157 / M177 comparison too.

[@talkditingsdem5799]

I still own both engines and both engines have two totally different characteristics. It’s not which is better it’s more about preference. The m156 is derived from a race engine so it’s rev happy and high strung for a v8. It’s free flowing so it will feel more exciting to drive. The m157 is a complete different beast. If pure power is what you’re looking for and not looking for an exciting driving experience than the m157 is the engine for you. You’re looking at 680bhp with a tune. To me the sound of the two is a wash.

[@DaveBailey-gc6op]

i have an M156 in my amg . only things that concern me is the head bolt issue im not shore if mine has been done under warranty?

[@phosanindhlovu7568]

M157 all the way!

[@alansoler2653]

Awesome video bro

[@michalgolian3084]

Great video, good job! I would go for M157.

[@faz6870]

Great video, I agree with you, I would have the M156

[@sdawar]

@AMGmeister, I personally own a M157 wagon with performance package. Would love to meet you for coffee if you're based in Vancouver area!

[@oxidalpha6350]

Keep in mind that m157 came out in an era where mercedes had to save money. They just took the 4.7 biturbo from the 500 mercedes and made the 5.5l amg engine out of it. While the m156 is a "real" amg engine from the ground.

[@EdmundWV]

Fantastic video, fantastic cars ! I have a question, how many S212 Station wagon with the M156 engine where built worldwide? Thanks

[@EdderzX1]

Love the videos. Does anyone know what the background music is?

[@sumeetdhanota1569]

Love these videos!!!

[@Dstillus]

Great video, however, I am missing 2 things in the video. Disclaimer, I am M156 biased (also for those reasons) so proceed with caution! :) 1. Potential: What can be done to these cars to make them better. As far as I know, M156 has much better potential since it's N/A and you can add a compressor (as you mentioned) without huge modifications to make HUGE power (700+). I'm not saying it will be cheap, or DIY for anybody, but the potential is there alright. 2. These cars are not new and losing/gaining value for me is a valid argument here. Last N/A V8 and the ONLY engine fully built by AMG (commercially available) provides more value for collectors/owners than 'just another' Mercedes V8 modified by AMG.

[@strykz63]

The 156 isnt the only engine built solely by AMG.. The 177 178 are also solely built by AMG

[@Dstillus]

@@strykz63 True, you are right, M156 was the first, not the only. Still, all the other points stand :P.

[@strykz63]

@@Dstillus yah the other points do stand.. i forgot the 4 cylinders for the AMG cars.. I believe are solely from AMG also... but who give a damn about 4 cylinders🤣

[@Dstillus]

@@strykz63 Pretty much :D

[@NickPavlenko]

Looking forward to your opinion of the M177 engine.

[@nobenznofun9139]

M 157 would be for me because of the torque and better mileage. Both engines pale though in comparison with the M113 K. It had similar performance figures while being super low maintance and reliable for a performance engine.

[@AhmedSalamaaa]

next video has to be the M113k vs M157 as they are both 5.5 but one is supercharged and the other is turbocharged

[@AssassinBeef]

CL63 AMG M156 Gang!

[@TidalSnow1]

Can you do a video touching on the ABC hydraulic system? Would love to see your quality of work in a video on that subject. Recently acquired an 06 Cl65 AMG and this channel has been fantastic on learning stuff. Doing ignition coils, and abc fluid flush this weekend

[@chucks_garage987]

Does anyone know if the M156 got any upgrades when they changed over to the black cylinder head covers?

[@9000771]

This is one of great channel for mercedes fans

[@twfinc6855]

my 2028 SL63 had the 5.5 twin turbo.. the torque was fantastic.. not sure the code number or whatever, was that the M157?

[@lorenzoleone8609]

🏆M156🏆 in my 2006 ML 63 AMG with today 10th march 2024 227’700 miles on it with original engine and transmission gear. You simply can’t do that with a Biturbo engine. Hugs from Switzerland 🇨🇭

[@johnlucala1532]

From information both engine are fantastic,but I prefer m156,due the valves and cylinders less issues...

[@sprautos]

Really good comparison, great video. But…. Which wheels did you prefer? I have same wheels as you but have wondered about the multi spoke.

[@AMGmeister]

Thanks! I much prefer the '5-twin-spoke' wheels on my car compared to the '10-spoke' wheels. They are the upgraded wheel option while the 10 spoke was the standard wheel (in Canada at least).

[@sprautos]

interesting, the 5 spoke was standard here in the uk and the multispoke were put on the facelift model @@AMGmeister

[@motorhead1825]

Fanstastic review. I just picked up a 2010 W212 E63 with 77k mi. Original owner, dealer serivced and all records :D I am soring out a few issues, as I can do most of the work myself, so no worries there. The original owner had the Burl Walnut interior replaced just after 2 years due to fading. Alas, wood trim is again faded. I don't want o pay the $$$ to replace, since it appears they never really fixed this issue. Any ideas?

[@240fxst]

Got the m157 with the perf pkg P30. Absolute beast . Evolution in the right direction staying true to the AMG brand V8 n/a or twin turbo. Anything less is sacrificial and compromised due to emission regulations.

[@johandupreez9274]

How does the M158 compare all over, is it a better engine

[@havenot551]

I own both. No issues with the M156. Best sounding engine ever. The M157 in the Cls on the other hand burns oil like crazy, issues with dirty intake valves and I had to change the transmission 2 times… I would always go for the M156❤

[@martinkou3359]

M156 all day!

[@Dsis24kb]

Great video, but I will say the 157 was refused in 13+ with new timing chains, valve checks etc and with the S model had been revamped a little…having owned both the 156 sounds much better always but the 157 is a beast still. And the powahhhh is much more present

[@MERCS-V8]

Can you or have you done a video on the best mercedes engine to tune? I think its the om606 as i have one with a big turbo and hood exaust exit and that thing can move

[@youngp4116]

That is a beautiful E63 wagon! I'd pick that over the sedan any day only because I think euro wagons are cool and I used to have 2 Volvo 240 wagons. So practical and cool in an uncoool way.

[@ingegneriafacile]

Do you know that the m159 same block and head is winning the gt3 races. What we are talking about?

[@bking1021]

Thank you!!! FACTS

[@realestateeric]

As they get older people are finding bore score issues on basically every M157 and M278. It's basically going to be on all 90-100k mile cars. It sucks, because I really wanted a car with this engine.