Rick Grimes: How to Ruin a Fan Favorite

[@notmak2.0]

hey this guy spelled Richonne wrong !!!! who is Richchonne u nerd !!!

[@notmak2.0]

this is my first hate comment u guys im rlly nervous smash that like button

[@TheRealKindcod]

there was SO much potential for a Commonwealth-CRM war or something and they took that from me :(

[@DJenius]

The Ones Who Live answers the question, why have an epic war when two people can destroy an army in one afternoon on a whim?

[@TheRealKindcod]

@@DJenius The finale feels like a glorified Rick and Morty plot 😭

[@DJenius]

@@TheRealKindcod pfft honestly

[@robinrizzo7396]

I completely agree!!! The first episode was phenomenal, one of the greatest. However, my excitement quickly waned with each subsequent episode, culminating in a rushed and poorly written finale. I was frustrated by Rick and Michonne's blatant and extremely thickkkk plot armor. The show had a compelling narrative to explore for multiple seasons, yet they quickly drove it into the ground, only to then go and introduce new, contrived plotlines to stretch the franchise. TWD consistently builds up anticipation over years, only to disappoint time and again. I'm fed up with AMC's creative decisions it's mind-boggling, they're actual amateurs

[@LilNutDumb]

Idc how bad towl is Rick came back home we got to see him in military gear and he is alive.

[@kingkap_LMG]

Wasnt that bad , i believe its better then the other spin offs definitely

[@dravenlee5524]

I’ve been watching TWD since the very 1st day it premiered on October 31st 2010. It was my favorite show for years. I started to lose interest in it in season 8, where the season felt like the same thing every single episode, but I still stuck around. I ended up LOVING season 9. Then seasons 10&11 came out and they started to lose me even more then season 8 did. But I kept on watching the franchise in the hopes that it was all worth sticking with if we got a great conclusion for Rick’s story in The Ones Who Live. We did not and the franchise officially lost me forever. The Ones Who Live was actually insulting, because it almost felt more like Michonne’s story, then Rick’s. It was more about Michonne bringing Rick back then it was Rick’s final journey. Which honestly could have still worked, had they gone about things differently. Instead we got an amazing first 2 episodes, followed by 4 pretty terrible, corny, rushed episodes that truely destroyed the franchise for good. People say us getting this into a show instead of a movie trilogy gave us more time, but I actually beg to differ. With each episode being around 40 minutes long, that means THREE episodes would equal a movie length, a short movie at that. So we basically only received 2 movies worth of content. I’m ranting, so I’m just gonna wrap this up and say that The Ones Who Live was truely awful and I honestly really only blame the very last episode of the show for ruining the franchise for good. I didn’t enjoy episodes 3-5, but they also were redeemable, had episode 6 played out differently. They should have made one last season after this one, so we actually had more with the crm and Rick, rather than Michonne kind of overshadow Rick, the MAIN character. I used to love Michonne’s character, until they made her into nothing but Rick’s love interest. I’m also pretty grateful that the entire Daryl Dixon season 2 was leaked, because after seeing/hearing what happens in the final episode of the season: the episode Norman Reedus said was the best episode of twd history or something along the lines of that - literally nothing happened 😂 it’s just “oh, Carol found Daryl. That’s all folks.” No Rick reunion, no big reveal, nothing. Just the thing we all figured was going to happen anyways. It shows that this franchise is truely over and has nothing even remotely left to offer. Twd will always be my favorite show of all time, but only seasons 1-6. To anyone who hasn’t watched the show or isn’t done watching it, I recommend stopping at the season 8 finale. Season 8 was bad, but I could appreciate it more if it was the end of the series. It wraps up the story pretty well and also makes Carl’s death make sense and work fairly well.

[@DJenius]

Thank you for taking the time to comment this! It's really nice to see another former superfan who feels the same way. For me, S10E12 was the last REALLY good episode of TWD, the last time things felt exciting and surprising. But thinking about it, the way they ended the whisperers storyline that season feels super similar to the way they ended the CRM's, just ending this massive threat in one episode with no issue or consequences. Same with the whole show's finale. When Negan's Saviors were dismantled, we still saw the consequences of their existence for a LONG time afterwards, including the episode with the kid who gives Negan his bat back. Ever since then, the show and its spinoffs seem to favor the convenience of a happy ending with no loose ends over the complications of a good story. Such a disappointing mess. I really had so much faith in TOWL, but yeah, I'm done for good after that. Should've been 3 movies.

[@justinpatton6996]

I agree with Season 8 being the show finale, it fits as a conclusion more so, than the real finale. TOWL is the closest to an ending we’ll probably get.

[@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t]

@@dravenlee5524 first of all Danai is a bigger actor than Andrew Lincoln,so glad Michonne is the hero in her own story, Danai wrote the best episode in walking dead franchise and she co created the best show that universe has had, Michonne Grimes being at the front is very well earned

[@alexthrailkill]

Well said. I started watching while season 3 was wrapping up (I remember the whole “Pray for Andrea” thing was really big so I decided to check it out), and I fell out of it after Michonne left in season 10. My dad and I used to watch together every week but we were both losing interest through S10. I watched S1 of Fear but never bothered with the other spinoffs until TOWL. I could not STAND TOWL, and I thought I was crazy because fan reactions after every episode were overwhelmingly positive in comment sections. The last episode was an absolute joke, and all I saw was praise for it online. I’m glad people have taken the blinders off now that it’s not so new. They could have come up with something so much better so easily.

[@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t]

@@alexthrailkill not every show is made for everyone,TOWL was an amazing masterpiece that is still praised till this day,the last episode was so beautiful had everyone tearing up,AMC but especially Danai and Andy outdid themselves with this masterpiece

[@SerahBay]

first of all, thanks for pissing me off all over again by reminding me this show happened 😭 second of all, YES. 'disney enemies-to-lovers' 'richonne wattpad fanfiction' I BEEN SAYING THIS TOO. the whole show felt like a richonne fic i would've read on AO3 - except a fanfic writer would've gotten away with making the characters act out-of-character because that's what often happens in fanfiction. but this is a show created by THE SAME WRITERS WHO WROTE TWD for seasons on end!!! Scott Gimple they could never make me respect you. hack writer who inherited a superior story from someone else, in the same way Dan Benioff and DB Weiss did. reduced Rick Grimes to a snivelling weepy malewife and Michonne to a logic-devoid Marvel-esque girlboss, and it was tragic to watch.

[@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t]

Scott gimple said TOWL Richonne was a fan fiction a beautiful one I might add

[@DeoxysAttackmode]

I actually really liked this show, you just complain a lot

[@saifkhan-ln7dd]

I knew the writers were a joke when they tweeted towl story is rick and michones not the fans, after towl received backlash from fans. That proved to me they only care about milking more storylines

[@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t]

@@saifkhan-ln7dd "backlash from fans"and it's a few delusional fanboys no one cares about 💀

[@saifkhan-ln7dd]

@@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t not really it’s constructive criticism - and it’s fair especially when you consider fans waited six years, they had a right to be disappointed with the direction of the show, plus stunts like in Daryl Dixon with carol saying she had a feeling rather than saying Rick came back- it’s just becoming tedious at this point

[@Windenberg]

Great video Danny. I expected a very big thing with TWOL, the hype for Rick Grimes was in Andromeda, really so high. But I knew that they were not gonna give us something perfect, at least decent. And the first days felt good having Rick and Mich back, but after watching the finale it's just like... Strange, coincidences, and not very much interesting. Happened everything that we expected, and that's all. No more. They reunite, they fight, they try to escape, have to deal with Jadis, they kill everyone end of the stroy. I really felt like Rick was gonna bring a new world with him, the rebirth of the franchise... And it was just that, a series that I will try to forget about because everything I imagined was just better. Sadly I think I will keep watching the garbage, I've seen Daryl Dixon season 2 leaks and If there was more I would watch it, but I should do a personal work on getting out of this daily trying to know everytthing and watch everything and imagine what could have been, what could happen... i am tired of the walking dead, feels like we are the walkers and they're just giving us a series that we need to survive but they're force to do that...

[@DJenius]

@@Windenberg I think a lot of people had much higher expectations. Morgan's "the world is gonna need Rick Grimes" needed to get paid off, and that's what I wanted to happen here. Part of me is tempted to watch this new Daryl season, but I'm so sure it will only let me down. I no longer have any faith in these writers. Like it doesn't matter where they take these shows and spinoffs now, the fact that THIS is the story we got for Rick and the CRM is something I'll never be able to get over or take seriously. A shame. They should've either kept TWD's main show going or ended the whole thing a long time ago.

[@jerrystakes]

Bruh your channel is underrated af

[@australianmasterchief]

I’m subbed

[@pyroAdapt]

I couldn't help but be brought to tears during Michonne and rocks reunion because we've been waiting essentially the same amount of time as them to see each other again so it was really easy to feel those same emotions they were both feeling to some extent.

[@DJenius]

@@pyroAdapt yeah that was one of my favorite parts before they did Nat like that

[@tonyvillota21]

As far as I see towl, Its basically the series finale for me because after sticking around for many years without rick and waiting for the day he’ll come back is what really kept me going for twd. Now he’s home with his kids and I know he’s gonna meet daryl one day So I can pretty much close the book for twd for me. This show is awesome and a good send off to ricks story.

[@NoCIass]

I can tell you put a lot of effort into this thank you!! Stick to It man

[@DJenius]

No, thank you!! I absolutely will :)

[@lightningmonky7674]

This is so true, i appreciate channels like these cause i couldnt even finish this horrific show so i meed people to recal it for me

[@driannagordon9918]

MAK CORNER??? I love it! Great job Danny.

[@DJenius]

Thank you!! Shoutout Mak

[@MommA_MAtcha]

Can I be vulnerable with you? I have never watched The Walking Dead. BUT, I am going to now because Danny Elliott said it was "One of the most popular dramas on all of television." And I believe everything Danny Elliott says.

[@DJenius]

Let's gooo! That show is a roller coaster with high highs and low lows, but I think it's worth it, especially for the Rick Grimes story.

[@SerahBay]

@@MommA_MAtcha i watched it for the first time this year, and i can confirm it is a masterpiece. not the whole series, but the first few seasons are really fantastic, and you'll fall in love with practically all the characters and they'll carry you until the final season.

[@andrewdominate]

Don't waste your time with the show. Read the comic book series instead. It's constantly good and has a more cohesive story. If you watch the show, you'll either lose interest or be extremely disappointed with where the story ends up. I promise you won't feel that if you read the original first.

[@RandomoUsername]

After the season finale of the walking dead I just watch other people explain the plot of the spin offs. I was such a big fan, but now I'm just gonna read many fix-it fanfiction to grieve for this zombie of a TV show.

[@DJenius]

@@RandomoUsername reading fix-it fanfiction seems like a good idea. I should get on that lol

[@belialofeden]

If anyone is flying military choppers in the apocalypse it isn't likely to be an apache. The mh6m or ah6 would use way less fuel and the ah6 would be way more effective against people/zombies and you have way more landing capabilities.

[@patagucci8482]

Not to mention the maintenence on a apache for a decade would be a pain to say the least

[@quikgold513]

Dropped off at episode 3 then when I heard the spoilers I was glad I made said decision. This series should have been called TWD Love Conquers Alllll!!!!! In a squeaky voice

[@HudsonMedia]

This series was really infuriating. Ricks character especially was insufferable. He’s constantly saying “no, I can’t do it.” Whilst Michonne keeps doing some cringy speech about being better. I think that’s my biggest issue. Is the amount of unnatural dialogue trying to be deep and meaningful whilst being unbearably cringe. I just wish the characters would start talking like normal people again. The universe is kinda dead ( pun intended) to me atm and honestly, it’s such a massive shame. It was one of my favourite shows at one point.

[@gradyrocks]

Michonne was so ulikeable in this whole show. The acting from her was wooden and weird

[@xccxuy5hnhbvc]

Their biggest mistake was turning this show into a romance series in my opinion.

[@JosephSCB123]

The Ones Who Lives was great in my opinion. I loved it

[@tonyahines4554]

I love Rick Grimes.

[@dvn950]

This video needs way more views, S - Tier review with every point as to why this show blew ass Rick is my favorite character of all time in any media, but aside from episode one, this guy is not Rick Grimes… I’ve just convinced myself that Rick died on the bridge in season 9 and I’m okay with that lol Ps, Mak’s corner is genius, loved it

[@DJenius]

@@dvn950 I imagine there was a plan for the bridge to be his end, and then AMC was like nooo we can make more money off of him later. And if they gave us some good movies instead of this nonsense, they might've been right. Thank you for the kind words!

[@kamikaze3584]

the first episode was really good i was kinda disappointed when they shot down ricks helicopter because the story seemed like it was getting very interesting then they just blew okafor up

[@ruffruffgrr]

Yeah, this franchise is getting worse, even with the titles of The Ones Who Live and The Book of Carol. At this point, the only show that's left standing for me is Daryl Dixon him floating all the way to France was a good idea, though XD

[@friskykid3947]

5:28 that's exactly the sentence i was waiting for, also the guy with the plain in daryl's story, that's exactly how they feel, maybe not the plane guy as much, he's gonna be a part of the commonwealth, and the annoying kid

[@DJenius]

Ngl, as tempted as I am, I have not watched any of the new Daryl season. I truly lost all faith in this franchise. There's no way that show ends in a way I'd be happy with. As much as I praised season 1, Laurent did feel like more of an idea of a character than an actual character. I think that may have been kinda on purpose because of his whole the nuns think he's Jesus thing, but it won't work long term if they want the audience to care about him

[@friskykid3947]

@@DJenius they just got rid of him and the guy that got carol there, so now carol and Daryl are left on a cliffhanger, still in france, and with no apparent way to get back. its not worth the watch, i totally get why you'd straight up stop watching anything twd related, since season 9 i feel like they just stopped trying with some exception

[@DJenius]

@@friskykid3947 no way they just shelved him as soon as Carol got there 💀 ty for the warning, glad I've made the right choice lol

[@remuvs]

Damn, feels like it hasn't been 6 years since Andrew left TWD

[@axelmorel654]

Rick is the best characters is not ruined

[@jaycemcqueen306]

One of your few trash takes

[@DJenius]

@@jaycemcqueen306 LMAO I appreciate you calling it one of my few. If you know the channel like that, you know I don't consider my opinion King. If you loved this show, don't let me or anyone else take that away from you. That being said, I will die on the hill that I hated this show so much it ruined the franchise for me

[@user-ei2xx1zq8t]

Perfectly said!

[@djbutipower]

After finishing the new season of Dixon and after this wasted potential. I’m done too man. it’s literally a waste of time now like they are trying to just bring interesting things, waste theirs and our time trying to build on them and then just fall flat in the end. Idk I should’ve realized after dead city and how they everyone that got eaten by a Walker it was just so lazy compared to the past season, where they actually show the people being eaten while now it usually just shows them being pulled away and over taken by a group hug of zombies

[@_ataraxia_arts_]

Just like you said, I stuck around for all of TWD when it just kept going to shit, but dead city, I gave up after three episodes and I had almost no clue what was going on cuz I was so disconnected from it cuz it was just so bad to me. Then Daryl Dixon which seemed more promising and again I stuck around for three episodes until it sudden became the same situation for me as dead city. Then now with the ones who live, I watched the first two and some of the third and I checked out. I was just done, TWD lost me.

[@DJenius]

@@_ataraxia_arts_ Dead City was terrible and I knew I wouldn't be watching another season of it, but Daryl Dixon was more promising to me. You're right, the third episode was pretty rough, but it ended up coming back around at the end of the season. But after what happened with this show, yeah, whole franchise is over for me

[@_ataraxia_arts_]

@@DJeniusyea it’s really unfortunate, and I could tell before it came out that dead city was gonna be shit I’m ngl.. but one big issue I’ve had with TWD and the franchise (along with most new media) is how DARK and grey scale the lighting has become. It is absolutely terrible! I’m rewarding TWD again right now and just season season 2, and how they still have so much atmosphere and emotion in their cinematography and lighting is amazing. But now everything is so dark you can’t see a thing and I think that’s a big factor of losing interest. Everything is just dark now instead of actually giving good visual storytelling. Maybe this could be an interesting video for you to make if it speaks to you, loved this video and you are so underrated ❤🙏

[@DJenius]

@@_ataraxia_arts_ that is a pretty widespread problem in the film industry right now, I might consider dedicating a video to it. There's an old famous quote from LOTR cinematographer Andrew Lesnie when someone on set asked where the light was supposed to be coming from, and he said "the same place as the music". Good lighting for the audience needs to make a mainstream comeback. Thank you for the kind words :) ❤

[@kingkap_LMG]

Remember general beale son was in world beyond. Would be interesting to see him investigate his father death . And cause some corruption in the crm . That would be an amazing way to build up a good story . But can never expect too much from this show . Like ever

[@Bumpercat86]

ain't no way Jesus Christ just made a video about twd

[@Wellitsthebigman]

TOWL was horrendous and I’ll never watch another mini series again. They couldn’t make a cool show with Rick in it. It’s Joever

[@joanneweller8881]

Rick wasn't why I watched but Andy definitely was a reason to watch but TOWL was awful and turned Rick into an unrecognizable side character to Michonne

[@Christian_H3rnand3z]

Sorry for asking but who is Mak Corner? What's she known for???

[@DJenius]

Mak is my partner and they're known for being an amazing guest on my channel! :) Their most extensive appearance is in our big zombie media review kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZjSi2p4bpl9Y9ksi=bxA0t0Dc_zqxulYW

[@Christian_H3rnand3z]

@@DJenius Oh, that's cool!!!👍

[@paulaleckey1968]

NO, they didn't!!

[@kingkap_LMG]

Michonne produced episode 4 i think andy produced episode 5 😭😂😂

[@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t]

Andy is not a writer

[@kingkap_LMG]

@@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t neither is danai . They both produced episodes in TWOL .

[@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t]

@@kingkap_LMG Danai is actually playwright 💀,an award winning playwright

[@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t]

Engagement baiting🤣🤣 walking dead content creators have been struggling for views lmao

[@Oscar-de6sp]

he right tho

[@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t]

@@Oscar-de6sp his entire shtick is saying the most random things for views and it's futile cause his channel is not going anywhere

[@Oscar-de6sp]

@@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t seems like ur the one engagement baiting here

[@AlexandriaVirginia-s9t]

@@Oscar-de6sp using terms you don't understand 🤣🤣🤣

[@MCPE_YT]

This is not even a twd channel 😭🙏

[@XplicitTruth444]

L take imo.

[@lm6827]

Show was disappointing as hell.

[@HomieFiguro]

DISAPPOINTING

[@Requiem-mp9de]

This is the second worst spin off imo, right in front of WB and in behind of Fear

[@Hardrive2677]

They didn’t ruin Rick. They ruined the franchise. They missed a great opportunity to give Rick a good conclusion to his story but overall he solidified himself as a fantastic character by season 4. He already had a complete arc by the time they got to Alexandria. After that they botched the Negan storyline and the franchise has been dead ever since. TWD is too far gone.

[@DJenius]

@@Hardrive2677 real. I think those earlier seasons had some of the best writing. I'm a big fan of season 5 tbh. TOWL is not canon to me personally, I've decided. This show ruins Rick, but I still liked him on that bridge

[@Hardrive2677]

@@DJenius I mean in the world of the tv series I feel like TOWL fits right in honestly. It felt exactly like I was watching season 8 trash Scott Gimple writing. It felt very in line with TWD that we all know. Cool ideas squandered immediately. I didn’t have an issue with Rick honestly. It was more how they handled the CRM. Such a missed opportunity for an actually good, fresh storyline. The scene with Beale giving him the briefing made me actually interested in what the potential future could have been but then he kills him in a corny way and somehow the whole CRM is handled in like 20 minutes. Terrible, terrible writing.

[@DJenius]

@@Hardrive2677 that's all fair. I loved Rick's response to Beale asking him what the worst thing he ever did was. Squandered potential is key to TWD's soul at this point lol. I've said similar stuff under a lot of other comments here, I loved the main show despite its flaws, but it did have a lot of disappointments. Maybe it hit home with this spinoff because the stakes were so high and the potential was so massive, making the disappointment that much worse.

[@joshuanajarro3714]

You got C’s in English and it shows. Combined with L take after L take You should go back and pay attention.

[@joshuanajarro3714]

Be mindful when you pay attention so you can do it again to find out why you are wrong and sound like a child that wants to sit at the older cousins table.

[@joshuanajarro3714]

Dude they lost you since you started the show 😂

[@harveymann4703]

i must disagree rick grimes just gets better and better especially the new show its was great

[@kidreloads4872]

Everything is facts but it’s the walking dead I love it 😂😂

[@DJenius]

that's how I felt during a lot of the final season lmao

[@togo432nextgen]

Thinking his take is objectively wrong is hilarious. Too many woke writers. Danai gurerra has no business in the writers room. This is the result.

[@ScoobeyDoobie]

Banger

[@Foombamaroom]

I wanna say that the effort you put into this is great but something I heavily disagree with is your analysis of episode 4; Your takes feel very thought-out & logical, and your analysis of them feels like it's being observed under logical decisions. That said, the characters are behaving under emotional stress & making illogical decisions, just like real people do in situations like that. Michonne isn't "giving up," on Rick - Had she had the chance to walk out, she very likely would've regretted it & turned around. They're in a very heated, emotionally taxing argument after spending 6 years apart & having trouble getting through to one another, plus Rick is quite literally acting irrationally in a state of trauma. The decisions are consistent with the characters at their worst; Michonne being impulsive, brash, and resorting to wanting to be alone, and Rick being stubborn, feet planted firmly in the ground, and tunnel-visioned because he thinks it's the only way.

[@DJenius]

@@Foombamaroom my main issues with that episode were first, their fight was simply not entertaining to watch. There was no depth to it, and parts of it did come down to childish bickering about who's gonna get the next walker. Six years we've been waiting on this reunion, and I feel like if they were gonna fight, it should've been done with more care. The choices around the building it all takes place in didn't help things, either. Secondly, when they actually have that serious conversation, it does work. That's a lot more what I wanted to see. Rick's explanation makes sense, it actually had me pretty emotional when I watched it. But I simply could not suspend my sense of disbelief when they decided to stay in the collapsing building to have that conversation. I'm sorry, but even at their worst, there's just no way. They can have that conversation in the car ad lol. Every part of the back half of this show feels like it has glimpses of their actual characters peeking through, fleeting moments of hope for me, but it ultimately comes back around to just feeling like a fanfic.

[@headofthetable3149]

The one's who live was horrible

[@DeoxysAttackmode]

I’ll help you’re video out, in summary you’re opinion is wack and the show was great

[@NickNick-vc3in]

I think we can all agree (at least those who have read the comics) Rick in the show sucks ass and AMC has been wasting Andrew's performance for a good while now First they kill Andrea then seasons later they kill Carl, Ricks character is fucked forever

[@andrewdominate]

I'd say for the most part you're right. However, I think T.V. Rick is a pretty solid version of the charecter. Especially because of Andrew Lincolns performance. However, the comic book version is 30× better than the T.V. version.