Michael Omartian: One of the Unsung Giants of Music

In this episode, acclaimed producer, songwriter, and artist Michael Omartian discusses his creative process that led to timeless classics with artists like Steely Dan and Christopher Cross.
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[@alexanderednie1205]

These interviews should be in the Library of Congress

[@electricurinal]

I can agree with that.

[@HazeOfWhearyWater]

Absolutely.

[@jefflee8133]

Completely agree. Rick just continues to produce these absolute gems. Love all the interviews and I hope he continues doing them for a long time. Bravo Rick!!!

[@michaelgrant6332]

Isn't there someone you can write, like a congressman or senator. i'm not american so i wouldn't know.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Agreed. Maybe KZbin should make the call.

[@brogarn]

This guy is 79 years old this year and still sharp as a tack. Good on him. Excellent interview.

[@maxhirsch7035]

Believe it or not, there are quite a lot of 79 year olds who are still as sharp as a tack, even if their voices are a bit more gravelly and at times a bit slower than younger folks.

[@seeburg10]

And he still plays amazing.

[@ericlitts9917]

Musicians dont get alzheimers.

[@brynmunro3833]

​@@ericlitts9917 amazing I was going to write the same thing.

[@daydos_soundscapes]

@@ericlitts9917 glen campbell had Alzheimer's unfortunately

[@nikkienikkie4310]

I love how Rick actually listens to his guests and lets them talk.

[@RobertHall-mo5se]

Thé Michael Omartian interview was sensational. His comment about our limitations being a major part of creativity were truly profound. What a fine person.

[@jorymil]

It was really heartening to hear that. When you're a musician, you're acutely aware of what you can't do. To actually embrace that in yourself is fantastically difficult sometimes.

[@Rasscasse]

I found him to be very articulate as well. Great vocabulary. He expresses himself well. Very enjoyable interview.

[@beneunson]

Wow. Did not expect this. Michael Omartian is just brilliant, one of the great legends of music.

[@jacobevans4267]

Hello shred master Ben 👋 (your playing is phenomenal btw)

[@cooldebt]

I agree with @jacobevans4267 😊

[@badcornflakes6374]

No no no.. he's one of the great legends of music.

[@danlatus7413]

What R B is accomplishing with his Platform/Channel is Historic and Next Level. He Belongs in a Hall of Fame so Others might be Inspired to Appreciate all that is the “History of Music “

[@Bruiser48]

Only HOF? Michael is truly a legend and National Treasure!

[@TheListeningParty_TLP]

I was a “runner” at Lighthouse Studios in CA back in 1990. Michael Omartian was there producing some artist for a few days. Those few days were the fondest memories I have of my one year working at this studio. Unlike everyone else that came through there, Michael was truly down to earth and treated everyone (including the lowest on the totem pole “the runner”) equally and decently. So here’s my chance to say thanks 34 years later. God bless you dude.

[@philsdronelyshots]

Wonderful testimony to the spirit with which he seems to have gone about his work.

[@giorgioricci]

Ricorda che i grandi - in tutti i settori - hanno il dono dell' umiltà. Chi è pieno di se solitamente è una persona insicura e acquista sicurezza maltrattando il prossimo. Omartian appartiene alla categoria dei grandi in senso pieno e pertanto è molto umile e modesto.

[@deewilliams1210]

Nice, TLP 😉

[@thetruthchannel349]

Ive did some records at Capitol over a period of years & I always treated the staff & runners & other engineers & whoever was there like they were just people. I remember one day one of the runners told me about this restaurant down Sunset & he was like 'Ya, they have the best green beans.' I thought 'Huh? Green beans huh?' But the next day I ordered food from there & he was right they were really good. So I ordered an extra bowl & took it up to the office & gave it to him. I'll never forget the look on that guy's face as long as I live. Id been there several times by then but Id never seen that guy there before. Its just something I felt like I should do & I could tell it made a small different in that guy's life for that one day.

[@keiththomas6690]

Probably the best reply,I really felt that about this amazing man,your truly blessed to have known him.

[@jimwilson8582]

70 minutes you held my attention with the story of a man I'd never heard of but who single-handedly shaped the soundtrack of my youth. Thankyou.

[@patriceodom2553]

Yes so true

[@1persme1persme-it36]

single-handedly ?

[@lenwehrung1626]

..a HUGE contribution from a man I never knew existed.

[@lenwehrung1626]

Rick, you CONTINUE to blow my mind with intimate interviews with unknown legends in a music industry that shaped my life, or at least added some technicolor to it. I am in your debt.

[@dougrankin7353]

Beautifully said. Could not agree more.

[@sca1871]

One of the more interesting interviews I've ever listened to. Love to hear all the Steely Dan stories from all the hired guns.

[@sbbinahee]

Agreed!

[@DanFan2042]

I recently went to see Lyle Lovett and his Large Band. Skunk Baxter and Russ Kunkle were among the band members. If you ever get an opportunity check it out. Really enjoyed this talented man's story.

[@HanksJazz]

I played with Chris Cross in high school, and we hadn't seen each other for 10 years. When Chris was ready to go on the road, my name was mentioned, and Chris said, yea, give Hank a call. I got these lame charts to look over, and I asked his manager "Can I get the pre-release tapes?", and he gave them to me. I am a jazzer, and I transcribe all the time. The intro to Sailing was this rich arrangement. It's open stacked 6ths, which is a stellar idea for strings, and it's got a backwards circle of fifths progression of parallel minor 7th chords reminiscent of Jimi Hendrix's Little Wing...a really creative idea, Michael! I worked it out, and on the audition I nailed it. I remember Chris came over and said "How'd you do that?" I was hired immediately. Michael Omartian didn't mention it but he got a Grammy for Best String Arrangement for Sailing. Chris, and Tommy, and Andy, and James, we're all still great friends. Kudos, Rick, to a definitive interview!

[@dragondix]

Amazing anecdote! The intro to Sailing is one of my favourite pieces of music ever. What a stunning arrangement

[@avantegarde365]

the layout is appreciated, stacked 6ths(can hear the 6ths didn't know the stack, never seen the sheet mu), backward 5hs progression(this is going to help my eartrain), parallel minor 7h( play little wing all the time, did know that). the blind man sees. thanksjazz. (will research & get back 2-U). this era of hits was very commercial, foreigner was unstoppable at the time, and Christopher Cross': '" Laura " from a soap theme not only did Barry Manilow do commercials...your experience is interesting.

[@guyperry4010]

Wow!!!

[@GinoBarasa]

Did you go to Alamo Heights HS? I went to Mac the same time as CC, and I remember people talking about him, other kids, during a Theater Arts competition.

[@HanksJazz]

@@GinoBarasa 😁Yep, AHHS. Chris and I did a duet on "Classical Gas" in high school, and then he had a famous copy band called Flash in SA...that's quite a while back there, lol😆

[@AltGrendel]

The interview I didn’t know I wanted to hear with the guy I never knew I was listening to. 👍

[@veribot]

Well said. I think. 😁

[@JohnCunningham-yk9wm]

@@veribot ditto

[@CaliforniaBushman]

So this is the actual piano player on the Aja track?! I always wondered my entire life what the intimate details of this session were. And Rick dug deeper than anybody ever could ever ask, here. I can't get enought of these stories of session lore. A brilliant interview of the Pianist, Producer, & gifted Session Veteran Micheal Omartian, Rick!

[@formerastronaut]

Whoever mic'd up the piano for this interview should win a Grammy.

[@TommyTaylorOfficial]

It does sound incredible...but..truly...it's in his hands.

[@remondijk]

I'm not really into piano , but i totally agree. Its sounds so good

[@jaygarrett1550]

They recorded this at Michael's studio in Nashville I believe, so the piano is always setup and ready to record.

[@GregManningVideos]

Yes, but it’s also his touch.

[@coloaten6682]

@@remondijk People like him who are songwriters/arrangers always play piano well because they don't just play with chords and melody (2 voices), they play the 3rd and 4th voices too which really fills up the space and allows for all these parts to be played in the mid-range which really stand out. Basically they use their thumbs in a rhythmic way to add to the melody.

[@jdbroders64]

Rick Beato is providing IMHO an invaluable service and becoming a musicology historian with these interviews. I'm 60 years old and have played guitar for 40 years and am a huge Steely Dan fan not mention all of my heroes (Beck, Clapton, Page, SRV etc.) and this interview was so fascinating and informative for me. I had no idea who Omartian was and he was so humble and unassuming. What an amazing guy and musician. Rick, keep doing what you're doing. You are a treasure and we need this documenting of our musical history in all its forms. Bravo sir.

[@bobbyrosa4652]

I first heard Michael when I was kid. It was him & his wife. They were really big in the Christian Music scene. Had I known he played with most of my favorite artists I would have liked them more if possible!!! What a awesome history! WOW!!! Just WOW! Great interview Rick!!!

[@jbuk4369]

Yes. Me too. I heard his Christian music, here in the UK, way back in the 80s and loved it. One of my fave albums was 'One More Song for You' by The Inperials which Michael produced and played on. He also co-wrote most of the songs. And then I learn that he's done all this other great stuff. I love Steely Dan too and didn't know he worked with them. What a talent.

[@situation_zero]

This is the best thing in KZbin. Tell the people you love.

[@JochenVogel]

Mr. Omartian isn't just a brilliant musician, but a gifted storyteller, too. Thank You for another hour of joy, Rick.

[@FedericoGPena]

You are so right: there's nothing like hearing the stories from the studio during famous recording sessions....I LOVE to hear cats that actually relish in telling these details, because there are a lot of people who simply don't care so much or don't remember. Omartian is a man after my own heart in that way, as I'm a sucker for the untold story or "behind the scenes". I was plenty familiar with his name AND his playing growing up, but even I learned new things about this beautiful musician and producer. What a beautiful cat. Really incredible. People today, who didn't grow up looking in the back of records at liner notes and credits, experience music in a less dimensional way....and that's a huge loss for everybody. I feel lucky in that way.

[@brunoperez7131]

Possibly the best use of my time. Rick has the ability to attract the giants of the music industry and tell a story that keeps you glued to your seat. Beato over Netflix any day.

[@marcioarquiteto]

its one of the best channels for music lovers, Rick is a great interviewer

[@robertainsworth7375]

100% agree.

[@nigelcreasy6046]

Absolutely what an amazing interview

[@fearsomefan1]

Excellent!

[@adrienneparks9791]

Amen

[@robertainsworth7375]

OMG! This video had me googling musicians off and on for the first 28 minutes. Then at minute 29 I fell into a Steely Dan rabbit hole that lasted 2 hours. It took concerted effort to stop and return to this video. It easily could have gone on until the middle of night. It would have ended only due to sheer exhaustion and my journey would have still felt incomplete and unrequited. The cornucopia of amazing famous musicians that came in and out of Fagen and Becker’s orbit is mind-blowing. Jeez, Wayne Shorter, Larry Carlton and Steve Gadd all on one song. That Shorter sax and Gadd drum ‘duel’ on Aja is beyond hyperbole. Fagen and Becker were just flat out musical geniuses. I concur that Fagens solo album, Nightfly, is great. R.I.P. Walter. Another brilliantly entertaining interview. Another wonderful look into the layers and nooks and crannies of the history and craft of music. As usual providing fascinating insight and heightened appreciation for laymen and pro musicians alike. Thank you Rick for another highly satisfying music lesson.

[@eficer04]

that’s my favorite thing about steely Dan- the rabbit hole is just too fun

[@user-mf3in4pv7h]

Ran down the Steely Dan rabbit hole a few years ago for a couple months. It’s endless.

[@neoncarrot3670]

Yer funny! Agreed and well put.

[@jbuk4369]

Yes. You go down that Steely Dan rabbit hole as you said "until the middle of night". Then you realise that it's the perfect time to listen to The Nightfly. You can't escape it, and a warm, cosy feeling envelopes you.

[@JohnCunningham-yk9wm]

@@jbuk4369 Any Major dude would tell you….

[@TheCoastkid2]

I became aware of Michael when I read his name on a Cat Stevens record in the 70's. Such a genius and down-to-earth cool cat! Love these interviews, Rick!

[@J_Angel]

“It’s the limitations that make the artist, not the capabilities.” That blew my mind, so brilliant!

[@kassandjohnbolles3522]

Jerry Garcia once said, "Style is born of limitation."

[@allenlevelle]

Facts 100%

[@ajones957]

Bill Bruford said something similar. I think it was Discipline where Fripp said he was tired of all of Bill's cymbal playing, and he made Bill economize his use of them. That limitation opened him up to other approaches, and I think this is something Bill mentions about his talks on creativity. He's got a PhD on the subject now...

[@AJ-oc5eh]

yeah. and its encouraging . we may think we're not good enough draughtsman, or sight readers, ort whatever, but that limitation causes us to find new channels to make our mark. Peter Gabriel said something similar. creative ideas come from a limited number or awkward combination of instruments

[@paultomashefsky5917]

Billie Holiday is a great example of that quote regarding her vocal range.

[@stevecamp7527]

This is one of the unparralled giants in the entire music industry. I had the privilege of working with Michael on two albums he produced on me in the early ‘90’s! Working with him was one of the truly humbling and highest honirs of my life! So great you featured him here. Amazing interview!

[@tjdevans8542]

I’ve listened to your records for years. Thank you for using your gift for His glory.

[@davidkaisertas4034]

Living in Laodicea changed my life. Thank you for that.

[@wildtimes3368]

Steve, I enjoyed listening to your music on KSBJ back in the 80s. Appreciate your work.

[@hookandpan]

"He's ALL You Need" is one of my all time most inspiring songs!

[@nathanclark4674]

Nice to see you here, Steve. Loved 'Run To The Battle'!

[@dougrankin7353]

Rick's channel is so good it's interfering with my life. I have work to do today, and I just cannot shut off this interview with Michael Omartian. An absolute gem.

[@jbuk4369]

You and me both, brother. I think we're going to get into trouble. Ha ha.

[@markmackenzie2533]

Thank you so much for this interview. For over 50 years I have been a big fan of Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina's work. Had lunch today listening to their second album. Now I understand some of the background of what made those albums so great. Michael Omartian.

[@rexertek]

This has probably already been mentioned but Rick is an excellent interviewer. He knows the subject, he knows when to ask the questions, and he especially knows when to listen.

[@will89687]

And of course he should listen because he really wants to know the answers!

[@BigTyronie]

Its like music.. know when to speak, breathe, hold it all or go wild. Same dance

[@HERNANPARAVICART]

Pretty preciselly!

[@mariothepookster]

Yes, he’s the best! He asks questions and allows his subject to provide insights and musical gems to share with all who want to listen.

[@marktubeie07]

43:37 Quote of the video: _"It's the limitations that make the artist, it's not the capabilities"_ WOW, so true, so true. Another superlative interview Rick, keep it up !!

[@skattman11]

Yeah ...you re richtig...this one is so true!!!

[@jeffpettit1]

It’s actually the combination of both.

[@yabbadoody]

aka, play to your strengths... Bruce Lee famously said he didn't fear the man who knew 10,000 kicks, but the man who'd practiced 1 kick 10,000 times...

[@danielwoodard680]

In every job we do, it is the mistakes we fix, that propel our talents.

[@hjs5686]

Chet Baker!

[@pfleitzpiano]

I first became familiar with the name Michael Omartian when I researched who played the incredible piano parts in "Your Mama Don't Dance" and found out that it was him. Have learned so much more about this legend. Thank you, Rick!

[@DoofsterDan]

You are one excellent interviewer: qualified enough to talk shop on their level, great probing questions, you don’t make it about you… I rarely will spend an hour on these but you and Michael got me here!

[@carloslao6374]

I'm just an average Joe, 62 years old, who doesn't play any instruments, and I grew up with so much of the stuff I hear on this channel. Thank you so much for all your interviews, I have learned so much, wow, these guys have some interesting anecdotes.

[@ORLOSTguy]

I'll be 60 this summer and I completely agree with you. The music of my lifetime.

[@andrew_owens7680]

63 Ray Charles, Joe Cocker, Steely Dan, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Sun Ra, Bill Evans, Leo Kottke...

[@tedl7538]

@@andrew_owens7680 That's a great list Andrew!

[@dmlevitt]

greetings from another 62 year old.

[@ScottWDoyle]

There are very few people who can facilitate an interview like this. Kudos to you, Rick.

[@geoffschuller4875]

For sure! I got such a big smile on my face when Michael called out that quote. Priceless!

[@GlennHallLivingWater]

One of the best interviews I've ever seen! I had no clue that Michael Omartian played on and produced such great albums. What a musician! What a guy! God bless you both.

[@DrBill-zv5dx]

One of my favourite interviews to date . Michael is such a brilliant musician. Anyone associated with Steely Dan is a music icon .

[@kevincothron5089]

I can hardly believe what I just saw. I saw this on my watch list, turned it on and sat listening. I didn't blink. Michael is an amazing treasure and you got the opportunity to interview him. He is such a humble man and very willing to share his knowledge and stories. This was a wonderful time. I grew up like you Rick listening to the artist he was producing and playing session work on. Thanks Rick and Michael for getting together to do this interview. I went to MTSU and was in the music and rim (recording industry management) departments. I apologize for the kid that said he didn't like Steely Dan. I can only say he missed out on some magical times in music.

[@stelioskmusic]

One of the best interviews. Thank you Rick and Michael 🙏

[@drsimple]

Easily one of my favorite Rick Beato videos. I could listen to guys like Michael Omartian talk all day. Congratulations on your success that has given you (and us!) the opportunity to hear from the people who contributed to so much of our musical culture. ❤

[@presbyteriannewenglandcong7884]

How can you not absolutely LOVE Michael Omartian. So talented, so humble, so aware of how if you're open to the universe connecting through you, it will happen. A wonderfully uplifting and inspiring interview. It's also nice to see a genuinely "nice guy" have had so much success. Thank you Rick for bringing us all this interview.

[@mugsmugwump312]

It's amazing to me to see what was happening in the 80's when I was in my childish world as a young adult. I see a man like Omartian, who clearly had just natural talent that I never had, and compare that to where I have gone as a guitarist. No comparison. The understanding of music is so second nature to him that I keep my guitar between my little narrow walls! The various artists that he mentions all touched my life. But Steely Dan was my favorite. They never ditched jazz when Rock and Roll was in vogue, and even made it relevant. Omartian's blending of genres like country, jazz, blues and rock was the work of a professional. This conversation was extremely insightful to me. Thank you to both of you.

[@josephm.benoit9202]

At min 53 you wake up to this idea that Rick Beato is every one of us - listening along with another mythic hero type - with the sneakers even - and he's any one of us. He just faked us out for 50 minutes with his level of preparation, professionalism, top shelf acumen. Living the dream. Thx man

[@fayesouthall6604]

Often felt that

[@Mikeunism1]

Well said 👏🏼

[@dawudabdullaah6977]

Rick is a fan first, that's why his interviews are so good.

[@danoloane]

Very observant… great comment!

[@jbognap]

Hearing those records cracked open for us is really emotional. That era of records is a real touchpoint for many of us of a certain age.

[@badcornflakes6374]

I just tap my screen and listen to whatever I want. An amazing sensation of touching a glass screen with my thumb that I will always hold near and dear to my heart.

[@warrenbutterfield4208]

OK ⬆️ Enough with the Mushroom Cornflakes

[@deb4754]

Now I have another dimension into Steely Dan music which I dearly love. Great interview and much appreciated!

[@psalm2forliberty577]

Ha Rick, I just discovered you interviewed the great, yet somewhat obscure brilliant & influential Michael Omartian ! This is gonna be a great interview, I can't wait but it's 1:30 am & pillow time. Just let me say Michael's a FAB artist in his own right - give his double album "White Horse / Adam Again" a good listen - you'll see his musical brilliance. I can't thank you enough for interviewing this humble man of God & integrity filled music producer !

[@dwightropp3014]

Yes, I loved "White Horse" and wore it out. Weirdly, I never got to the other one, which I now see was recorded and released after White Horse.

[@psalm2forliberty577]

@@dwightropp3014 Right on 👍 I just checked Amazon it's available as an mp3 download for $8.99 Uh, the CD is $500.00 Crazy but it's rare. I'd better go find mine & put it in the safe LoL PS White Horse @ 1974 Adam Again @ 1976 I think the double CD I have was from 1991. Boones Overstock does CD reissues of rare but in demand old CCM. Maybe they could ? Or contact Michael Omartians office to inquire ?

[@danielgrove1300]

@psalm2forliberty577 Somewhere in here is your reply to my comment about Michael. In it you mentioned the loss of your wife. I had not seen your reply until just now and wanted to let you know how sorry I am to hear that. thank you for mentioning Michael's solo albums. I will check them out. God bless you.

[@Isaiah538]

I used to play songs from White Horse as a college radio dj at KSCC, Costa Mesa. Not to mention songs from an Omartian produced album by Matthew Ward called Toward Eternity. I'll always remember Omartian's "Killer Bees" keyboard solo. Great stuff!

[@psalm2forliberty577]

@@Isaiah538 AWESOME 👍😎. What years was that ? I used to buy all my CCM CDs & Albums at the Costa Mesa Maranatha Books & Music store. Circa 1985-88 Do you remember that ? (Just saw the White Horse CD sells fur for $500 now - I'd better find mine Lol) KYMS was the big Christian Pop Rock Alternative Station 106.3 or 103.6 FM. Great memories to be sure !

[@elbertcollins]

This is one of the interviews I have been waiting to see. I am so glad it's happened! I can hardly wait to finish this video! Now if Rick Beato could interview Phil Keaggy, that would be 😲

[@stcmattb]

YESSSSSSSSSS

[@NonEuclideanTacoCannon]

That sounds familiar. Think my dad listens to him. Is he the dulcimer guy? Or maybe a guitarist with missing fingers? Haven't heard that name in years.

[@ZachMcCordProg]

I SUPPORT THIS

[@ZachMcCordProg]

​@@NonEuclideanTacoCannon yeah he was missing his middle finger on his right hand

[@MarkMcLT]

Yes to Phil Keaggy!

[@MatthijsMajoor]

I rarely comment on videos; but this is so impactful. I grew up on Omartian's music: the Christian artists he produced; the records he made with his wife, Steely Dan... everything. So great to hear the stories and to see he is doing great. Thank you Rick!

[@kathleenthompson9566]

I did too. I was excited to see him be interviewed here.

[@danielgrove1300]

I briefly met Michael in 1979 at a Saturday morning Bible study at Church On The Way, along with George Grantham (the incredible drummer from Poco), and one of the members from Seawind (the tall guy, whose name I'm sorry I can't remember). I was thrilled. Such a quiet and unassuming bunch of guys. I had been a fan of Michael's since Loggins and Messina. And he truly became my hero when he produced the Imperials. He and his wife Stormie have had a wonderful influence on the lives of many people. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Rick.

[@georgiaslide]

Kim Hutcroft - saxes. Seawind created amazing music. @@danielgrove1300

[@bettyjane6684]

I agree I know him from the Christian sector. Coincidentally, I have just started relistening to Second Chapter of Acts.

[@psalm2forliberty577]

100% my story too, became aware of Michael Omartian via his work first with his wife Stormie on her records & then he issued forth a seemingly never ending stream of both mainstream Pop & Christian Rock & Gospel albums - too many to count truly. Not only that but Stormie Omartians book "Power of a Praying Wife" helped restore our marriage - by God's grace - 8 years in - and it lasted 32 years total - until cancer hit & the LORD called her home. So many great memories, musically & otherwise !

[@scottski51]

Now... I realize... a little bit (!) of what drew me to Steely Dan so strongly! You could just listen to their albums over and over and always hear something new, each time!! I'm a harmony guy at heart yet Michael's piano is probably the "hook" that really grabbed my brain. FanTAStic interview. Thank you so much, Rick.

[@johnfinochio1528]

Michael goes way back and was force to be reckoned with. He put out some very fine Christian albums with his wife Stormie featured on vocals as well. But I only wish there was time to unpack his work with Loggins and Messina, again not as well known but excellent stuff from the early 70’s. GREAT INTERVIEW!

[@geneschweiss4872]

I just love when Rick's guest, no matter who it maybe, is able to play on the spot 👌 parts of the songs that millions of people have enjoyed for decades.

[@marylouleeman591]

...and he was a great guest, offering further comments all along.

[@christophermitchum6829]

Seriously, serious Cerios star 😎🎶🕶️

[@JimAndDeePatton]

I met Michael Omartian in 1969 and spent a couple of weeks with him in sessions in 1972 so that makes this my favorite Rick Beato interview. 😊

[@ThomasOPerry]

The piano sound on the set is perfect. Once more, great lighting, voice tracking and interview! You are the man, Rick!

[@TimBridges-x1i]

Got to meet him at 3rd & Lindsey in Nashville a few years ago. He sat in with a Steely Dan tribute band filled with outstanding session players. An amazing writer, producer, arranger and player, but an even nicer man. I believe that he is the only person to have won a Grammy in four different decades. He helped shape so many of my favorite albums and artists in the late 70’s and 80’s and then kept it up in the 90’s in Nashville with one of my favorite contemporary Christian artists 4HIM. Check out their album “The Message”. Omar is truly a gifted musician and this interview brought me such great joy.

[@91Kingscrib84]

I could listen to Michael Omartian talk about Steely Dan forever. They instilled themselves into my musical psyche from the first. The fact he played such a huge role in how their music is constructed is no surprise. Donald Fagan is a perfectionist. He wants to commit to record what his mind conceives. Michael Omartian was a large part of making that happen. ~Thanks for another great interview. 👍

[@giorgioricci]

Donald Fagen è effettivamente un musicista molto rigoroso. Perde molto tempo nella preparazione dei suoi dischi. Direi un tempo esagerato per i ritmi ed i tempi di Hollywood. Omartian con la sua umiltà e pazienza è riuscito ad accontentare anche un artista complicato e insoddisfatto come Fagen.

[@timgant7141]

"The limitations make the artist" immediately brought to mind the Joni Mitchel line "weighing the beauty and the imperfection ". Exactly!

[@riccocool]

That definitely caught my attention.

[@seeburg10]

This concept blows my mind. Honestly I’ve never heard it before.

[@hpmaudio]

Your interviews are actually historically important for the music industry and so interesting to me, born in the 60s and bought up on this music. It’s so cool that you can bring to us some of the talented people in front of and behind those amazing songs we heard growing up.

[@hpmaudio]

Watching from Aotearoa/New Zealand and loving your work Rick.

[@rogermac06]

All your interviews are great, but THIS ONE takes the cake for me! Thank You!

[@TexasJackdaw]

I spent over 10 years in the Christian Music business back in the 80s and Michael Omartian was HUGE. This was such a joy to watch him being interviewed by such an accomplished producer. This channel gets better with every upload. Thank you so much for sharing this, Rick! 🙏

[@philmoore71]

i was hoping for some Christian aspect here, and got a small taste with Amy Grant

[@testinguk_Admin]

Relieved it was only a small part at the end. 🤢

[@swmartin1960]

@@philmoore71Good music is a gift from God, no matter who produces, performs, or writes it. And its clear that Michael - whose humility is as impressive as his talent - sees his career as a gift as well. It would have been interesting to hear him speak about the early years of CCM. But this interview was about his contribution to mainstream music. Great job by both.

[@mauricemcguillicutty4746]

Oh well, nobody's perfect... I'd like to say "Marti" was only in it for the money. Xtianity and the associated music repulses me, being a militant agnostic.

[@philmoore71]

@@mauricemcguillicutty4746 i guess that 1 out of 1000 or more, make any money in music. As MO said, he did anything for those first four years... and he was one of the few gifted ones who didn't 'have to wash dishes.'

[@quinnly]

Another grand slam. I've been listening to him my whole life but I've never even seen him. I wish this interview was three times as long. What an incredible musician and extraordinarily cool human. These interviews will be in the library of congress!

[@saharagold14]

Rick, thank you SO much for this blockbuster interview with “Omar.” I was knocked out by his album White Horse in 1974 (50 years ago!) and followed his career as a CCM producer. I learned a lot, and my admiration and appreciation for him (and you) continues to grow. These stories are priceless. P.S. I highly recommend 2 of his albums: White Horse and The Race, as exemplars of his genius.

[@t.angelo4838]

This is such a great interview..... I had to watch it a second time! Omartian is so f-ing interesting, so naturally talented yet humble, and a wealth of knowledge and background stories. I just love it! Thank you for a great interview!

[@freefallin6871]

Another class act. Just being chosen to be part of the Steely Dan experience speaks volumes.

[@thegood9]

Wow. This guy was one of the most amazing players, producers, songwriters, etc. of all my life. His CCM works were also sadly very underrated. GREAT job getting with Michael! Such a superstar!

[@kevinharris777]

This interview is unbelievably good! So glad Michael Omartian is getting the props he deserves. Way to go Rick!

[@user-ek9mf1rv1v]

The creator of one of the Greatest songs ever, JEREMIAH, in the 70's. It is a Bible based lyrics, pure Funk song, with the best Trumpet Solo ever played in that genre. I was dumbfounded the first time I heard that sound in the mid 70's. He is GENIUS!

[@Rick2367]

Michael’s albums in the 70s, White Horse and Adam Again opened my eyes to the CCM genre that had a profound impact on me. I wish I could hear him talk about that.

[@timallisonewer9141]

I have a bro in law and his wife who named their daughter Rachael so they could call her Rikki . Only family know her name is Rachael. Micheal O is a musical genius God has loaned us.

[@robertsadler1766]

@@timallisonewer9141 Indeed, talent from God!

[@robertsadler1766]

"See This House" from Adam Again -- one of my favorite songs of all time.

[@hawaii50cowboy]

Thank you Thank you & Thank you for this wonderful interview with Michael Omartian. Short story here: When Christopher Crosses first album came out, I was blown away! I looked at three people within that project. Michael the producer, Christopher the artist, and Chet the engineer. During the late 70's and early 80's I was a young and budding recording engineer in Hawaii. A local record label, "Panini Records hired Lee Hersberg from Warner Brother record to engineer this particular project. Thus began my internship of learning from one of the best I consider in Audio Engineering. I was at the right place at the right time. I assisted Lee during the entire project. In time, I was able to witness the mixing of the second album at Amigo studios. Now at the time Christopher was working on his second album, I was in LA mastering a project at Amigo Studios. I had heard that Chet Hines was mixing Christopher's second album. So During a break from my session, I visited the control room where Chet was mixing the album. Michael Omartian was there sitting quietly. I introduced myself and asked if I could sit, watch and listen to how Chet mixed this particular project. I remember hearing the song "Laura" for the first time there. I am glad to have been there to witness great talents at work. It was an awesome experience for me. And by the way, I give Chet full credit for developing the Wind screen used for recording vocals. It basically was a nylon stocking stretched on a wired coat hanger. I took the idea back to Hawaii. Later, it became commercialized all over the world. Again, GREAT INTERVIEW with Michael Martian.

[@thehollics7067]

I used to work at a gas station. The owner was a twenty year Marine veteran. Every once in a while another Marine veteran from WWII would come to the station and they would tell stories from their past in the Marines. I would always be mesmerized by their stories. It was amazing how they did things without the conveniences we have now. Listening to Rick's interviews give me the same feelings I would get listening to those two veterans. These are awesome.

[@jameslynnbudlong5658]

I'll never forget Michael. There was a Keith Green concert scheduled in Portland, Oregon. Keith was tragically killed in a plane crash shortly before the scheduled concert in Portland. Michael Omartian came in and put on a concert with his wife and Melody Green. Amazing musician! ...also to be able to do this in a very emotional time!

[@runwillrobinson]

Wow, I didnt know that story. I wish I could hear a recording of that night. I remember where I was when I heard that Keith died. I was a brand new Christian and really got into his music.

[@PeterPatterson-vt2cx]

Keith Green was my bridge to christianity. I’ve never known he died like that. Oh me goodness.

[@geffryg]

Wow. Had not listened to Keith Green since 1981when I randomly bought his first album and fell in love with him. What a great voice and message he had.

[@friguy4444]

@@PeterPatterson-vt2cx There's a Full Documentary on Kieth Green on You Tube that tells all about it. His life and the life of two of his children and some others that were with them were cut short that afternoon. God took them home. Praise Jesus that we will meet him if we wish later on when we graduate to the Real Life!

[@SandcastlingGuy]

Knew about the crash, but not Michael's involvement. Makes me like him even more.

[@dalewier9735]

Rick, nobody does what you do. As a lover and student of music with years of playing and producing, you ask the questions that very few can even know to ask. Sting, Peter, Perdy, Chris, Michael, Jimmy, George, Joe, Brad, Seal, and dozens of others, and now Omar talking about one of my ALL time favorite albums. Thank you, Rick, your channel is like a Clubhouse where all the best musicians hang out. Blessings

[@genemontoya4028]

The blessing was shared by all of us. 🙏Thank you both!

[@hookandpan]

Such a humble, authentic, kind hearted, and talented man! So great to hear all the amazing stories behind these iconic recordings! Thank you Rick!!! You are a treasure to the music community!

[@TheOrlandoGuy]

Holy cow! This deserves a part two. So many artists he’s worked with. There has to be more stories to uncover!

[@beejjackson]

I first encountered Mr Omartian on the "Sittin' In" sessions, then again with 2nd Chapter of Acts, then Steely Dan, Billy Joel, Chris Cross and eventually everybody else who mattered. I have been fascinated by his skill (duh!) but also his amazing ear! My God! What a priceless gift!

[@dwightpitman4608]

I’ve said this before, but Rick is a brilliant interviewer of musicians. He understands how they think and can speak their language. But his greatest skill is asking intelligent questions and then just letting them talk. Another great interview, Rick!

[@rudiferrarin9991]

Amazing how Rick keeps an appreciation smile throughout every single word of Mr Omartian...unbelievable interview Rick. Thank you Mr Omartian for sharing so much value

[@davido4425]

Yes, Great interview !!!!

[@studentsmusic]

that's the music I lived for those days. Makes my heart sing to watch him explaining Aja in its incredible complexity. Mr. Omartian is such a genius, gentle man and great storyteller. Enjoyed every minute.

[@user-cv2nr9jy4z]

Michael's playing makes my heart sing. Thank you Rick for another amazing guest.

[@paulaadams7094]

I love Michael and thrilled to have learned so much in this interview! God bless you Michael !

[@kimjoyner9649]

I’ve been a fan of Omartian since the 70s. He had a number of his own albums that are great and still stand the test of time (White Horse, Adam Again, etc.) - I have original copies but I’m sure they can be found somewhere - worth a listen to really see his own musicality

[@stcmattb]

White Horse is epic!

[@cacantrope]

Sn musicisti di 1certo vibro@..non stsnvano mai ...di ascoltarli!..anzi,non smetteresti mai di sentirli a suonare ecc.

[@ambreewilliams6585]

Adam Again is one of my favorites!

[@billsherrington5996]

Got them on my iPhone as we speak👍🏽

[@ivanisrael4442]

As a kid I say Michael Omartian’s name on sooooo many album credits and I often wondered about his background. The man’s a genius and so humble. Thank you for this interview Rick.

[@davefry2323]

I have sooooo much been hoping and waiting for this interview!! I worked for Michael back in the late 90's as a studio tech, and I have always cherished those times hanging out with him in his studio. He is every bit as gracious and cool of a dude ('Dude!') as he appears here. I was working on his console one day when he comes by and says "Dude, you want a slice of pie?" -- referring the Lou Malnati's pizza he'd just had shipped from Chicago. So he and I sat in his kitchen enjoying some of our favorite Chicago food. Great memories! As I go back and listen to my favorite music from my youth (70's and 80's), I am constantly amazed how much of it that he either played on or produced -- or both. Thanks Rick, for being such a great interviewer and for bringing the musical genius of Michael to more folks' attention!

[@jaypharmon]

Fantastic interview. I just wish they had talked about Omartian’s fusion jazz Christian albums, like White Horse

[@sometotalofallthings]

Dang this is a good interview. The first I'd ever heard of this guy was he is listed as the writer for several songs on one of Debby Boone's gospel albums from the 80's and I kep thinking how good those songs are. No idea that Michael was this big in the industry.

[@MrCherryJuice]

Thank you. Mr. Omartian's work has been part of the lives of everyone watching this, but for many of us this is the first time we've seen him or heard him speak.

[@seeburg10]

I have loved this man’s playing and arrangements for fifty years and never knew what he looked like.

[@techcommander661]

It's a joy to see how much more polished and professional Rick has become with these remarkable interviews. The lighting, audio quality, camera angles, and Rick's relaxed yet energetic and enthusiastic engagement with and appreciation for these talented individuals is top notch. Great job.

[@PaulMikna]

I agree.... he's getting better with each one.... getting more comfortable with the format.

[@jaytrolan1602]

Rick Beato is riding like the wind on this channel right now. Wow. This channel is just so informative and enjoyable to listen to and watch. Congratulations on your larger reach of viewers and the fabulous guests that are participating now. Ricks joy doing thus channel is so palpable and makes watching like riding the wind on a boat, light and easy. 💕🥳

[@GtrZenRobertKuhlmann]

Gentleman - thank you thank you thank you. What a fantastic time I had watching this episode. Like spending a lovely evening with good friends.

[@markclason2272]

It was my fantasy when I was growing up to be Omar's apprentice. The man is a legend! AND he loves Jesus!

[@marshac1479]

I only started to listen to Steely Dan because I watch this channel. Cheers Rick.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Lucky you, its fabulous 😊

[@chrisw1953]

Better late than never!

[@phnigra111]

You’ve got good taste..

[@badcornflakes6374]

Steely Dan

[@briancase6180]

For those of us who grew up with Steely Dan, we sometimes take it for granted. But, it was pretty special even then. I remember getting this feeling that I was hearing something special, something that was far above the regular pop music the radio played to hook us into listening to the advertisements.

[@ssorge]

A wonderful interview with a spectacular musician. I live Omartian's solo projects too, some superb music making. And he still is as sharp as ever!

[@GodOfDetailing]

Fantastic interview. The song Rikki Don't Lose That Number was one of the favorite songs of my childhood. It was years later before I truly understand the greatness that was Steely Dan. This interview is just icing on the cake. Thanks, Rick Beato!

[@markbratton111]

Rick, this is by far one of my favorite interviews. You guys nailed it. You ask the questions that some interviewers wouldn't even go near. But there is a comfort level that musicians have with you, like speaking to a brother. Well done.

[@squeeks40]

I like the fact that there don't seem to be "gotcha" questions in the interviews. The guests know that they can trust Rick, and are relaxed, and tell such great stories!

[@todddale7041]

Michael Omartian & Phil Keaggy: two of the greatest musical genius’, wonderful Christian men 😊

[@mikemullen1413]

Agree 100%. Although most people would say Phil who???

[@todddale7041]

@@mikemullen1413 Sadly, yes but He, Michael, and how can I forget my favorite band ever and their genius Kerry Livgren, are my absolute favorites of all time 😉🙏🏻❤️

[@brianwilson4404]

I got to meet Phil at a conference we played in AZ a few years ago. He is such a kind and talented man.

[@CharlesRBiggs]

Praise the Lord! Musical excellence for the beauty and glory of God!!

[@andymelendez9757]

Absolutely!

[@_creighton]

To have the curtain drawn back and peer inside of some of the most iconic happenings in music, the music of my life is an astounding treat. Thank you Sirs for sharing and having the impetus to want to share.

[@JohnMandersonBM]

Dude, that was seriously one of the best. I had no idea how much Mike had done.

[@arthurnied5500]

I believe what we have here is a standing ovation!

[@johnnyrenfield]

Every one of your interviews is like a master class

[@stephengeyer2519]

Omar is genuinely one of the kindest people you will ever meet and Stormie is even more so. Great family. ❤️

[@007gunlogo]

Wow..SUCH a fun an interesting interview! Thank you so much, Rick, for taking the time to document the pillars of the music industry. Really great stuff!

[@scotthutchens1556]

This was a dynamite interview! I first heard of Michael Omartian from his work with 2nd Chapter Of Acts and other Christian artists plus was very impressed by his solo albums “White Horse” and “Adam Again” in the mid 70’s.

[@runwillrobinson]

I heard a Christian album by Michael and Stormy before I became a Christian and have not heard it in decades. I still think back to that album and a song about Jonah when I try to remember the names of the cities mentioned in the Bible. I will go try and find it now....

[@BB-iw4qd]

Could you be thinking of Jeremiah from the White Horse album?

[@TPBass1224]

What a wonderful man. Incredibly talented, humble and graceful. Thank you, Rick.

[@imjustsomeguy72]

I'm not a Christian, but an album I remember from my childhood is The Light Inside by Gary Chapman. Very CCM, but Michael produced it and played all the keys. It is a very beautifully produced record with actual writing craft by Garry and some lovely arrangements. I still spin it from time to time today. It blows so many current top 40 songs out of the water for craft and writing ability, and I think it owes a lot to Michael. A real giant.

[@victor_herzam]

This is pure gold!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you

[@emmetband4931]

Glad to hear the recognition of Horace Silver's Song For My Father. Silver was a master.

[@erniesinger8768]

At the risk of someone else mentioning it, there's also "Watermelon Man" and other Herbie Hancock tunes with similar sounds.

[@jeffreystaley5266]

Hearing from Michael was amazing. Steely Dan is one of my favs and "Ricki Don't Lose My Number" really grabbed me even as a teenager. "It doesn't sound good if you hit all the notes at once, I can tell you that." Brought tears to my eyes with laughter about that iconic transition.

[@christophermitchum6829]

Class act. All the notes, and theory, and attitude, and...🤔. Grace notes have more weight than we realize...,😎🎶✌️

[@howiecampbellmusic]

Okay, Rick, you've got me. After this interview with Michael Omartian, which was exquisite by the way, I need to do a regular feeding on your interviews. Great job! You guys worked seamlessly to present an excellent view of the Steely Dan process.

[@rayherman9713]

Fantastic job, Rick! I can never watch a non-musician interview an artist ever again. Your questions are spot on!!! So refreshing!