Rick Shiels talks Creator Classic!

[@delhump22]

Bit of alcohol related factoidage for ya - you're subbing ice cream for booze because your body is used to the level of sugars present in the alcohol you were drinking. Alcoholics talk about this all the time, and in fact, hard candies like jolly ranchers, life savers, etc., are used to help fight that craving for alcohol, because you're not only craving that, but also the sugars. Good on ya for dropping the drinking Rick, it can only bring good things! 😊

[@freddylutz2772]

By the sounds of it, Rick fell in love with golf again on the Isle of Arran!!! We have a trip planned there for next spring, so hearing him describe things made us even more excited. As always, great content - keep it up, gents!

[@jamellen1]

Lads how can ye just pretend like that fitting video never happened? Just makes it look worse and worse if ye gave it 5 minutes at the start here or would be forgotten about

[@shakeyfly]

I missed it what happened?

[@johnrobertson3641]

Really poor

[@ajcoopa]

Why is everyone so butthurt on behalf of Titleist?

[@Melted_Butter]

I didn’t get through it all before it was taken down. But I’m shocked they haven’t addressed it given the backlash Rick received.

[@jamellen1]

@@ajcoopa AJ if you seen the video you would know it's absolutely Notting to do with any golf brand

[@AlabamaGolfer]

Congrats to Luke Kwon for winning the Creators Classic. The putts he made on 17 and 18 were clutch. It was also pretty cool to see Wes Bryan’s sportsmanship when he told Luke the line to the opposite fairway and then celebrate Luke’s winning putt. That really made me see him in a different light.

[@Swing_Twice]

If you watch him interact with Gabby, (I don't know if truly intentional) but he was intensely asking her questions on the first tee and it sure seemed like he was just trying to calm her nerves. I've come to really love Wesley, I think he's a great guy and his heart is where it should be with golf.

[@thomasblock1164]

​@Swing_Twice He is the most entertaining golfer on the tube. Even his game has personality. Into the trees, onto the green, spins back 20 ft. Barely misses 28 ft birdie putt, makes if he is on a heater. Harasses George, but the first guy to yell out, "Great shot, George!" So. Much. Fun.

[@jibba0jabba1]

Wes is an absolute competitive beast, but he’s a nice guy first and foremost.

[@stfunub646]

+15 is what Rick would've shot had been invited.

[@johno6681]

PGA tour should a host a Creators Championship with a field of 140 KZbin golfers !

[@RoughCraic]

It’s a great stride forward in the KZbin Golf space. Congrats to Luke Kwon!

[@Donquity]

Loved your discussion of the Women's Open. 😃

[@kyshapka]

I'm an OG fan, Rick. But sorry, not sure you were good enough to play.

[@davidcollier2811]

For the tour championship, let the winner going into the last week take the "order of merit" and be recognised as player of the year, but then let those top 32 (rather than 30) go into a matchplay comp where each player is seeded per their position in that top 32. Run that as a stand alone season finale and keep the bonus in place if the order of merit winner also wins the matchplay

[@chriscolon9990]

I like this, and we can have the top 4 seeds pick the course for their corresponding side of the bracket

[@jasonkidd4066]

@@chriscolon9990while a fun idea, how are you going to coordinate four courses for a PGA Tour level event in literally a day? The seeding would be complete Sunday the week before the match play. Then you’d have to have everyone travel. The players are the least of the concern. TV cameras, towers, spectator infrastructure, then there’s the course itself. Do they even want that? Can they support a tour event? Now what happens when they get bounced in the first round?

[@AManInAGreySuit]

I like Rick Shiels he has done massive things for KZbin Golf, but I think he has now peeked, like many in industry, Ricks channel was the first wave and he'll continue to make great videos but we are now moving into a new KZbin Golf phase and Shiels I don't see being at the top for much longer.

[@AlabamaGolfer]

The Tour Championship was a bit dull to me; it just didn’t bring any drama to the finale. I’d rather see something like a match play where the top players get some sort of bonus like they do in many other sports (perhaps give them a bye, or maybe some strokes vs their opponent based on seeding). Something like have the top 28 players come, give the first four a bye, match them up by seed and by day four you’ve narrowed it down to the final four. You’d risk having someone like Scottie having a bad first day and missing out and losing viewers to a lower ranked player, but perhaps give them strokes vs their opponent might minimize that impact while giving the other person a chance to chase. I don’t know if that’s the answer, but in the current format, it was kind of a snooze fest.

[@Frate84]

I think they need to do a creator series at all the signature events to win the creator cup at the end of the year

[@facial26]

Surely the whole concept of a golf handicap should allow creators like Bob to be able to play in such an event.

[@Hatori64]

rick needs to be a host, not be a player - don't need anything shattering any ego this guy has left :P (Some people are saying he was invited and ducked it aggressively)

[@pintailpoint8634]

I loved watching popular creators play a tour level course from the tips in tour level conditions. Having said that, Rick and Grant Horvat should have been there to make it even better. Mic the players as watching the follow up videos and their commentary make their videos so entertaining. Not surprised that Luke and Wesley were favorites as they’ve played competition already at high levels. I’m guessing next year’s prize will be more than a vacation and grill, not that anyone is unhappy with winning those. Looking forward to next year’s event and the improvements sure to come 👏🥃

[@joemarshall3769]

53:32 The one critique I have of the Creator Classic is that they did not show the whole leaderboard. You were left wondering what position your favorite Creator was in if they weren't top 5. They didn't get as much air time understandably, but a scrolling leaderboard would have been nice.

[@joeymurray7806]

Agreed. It wasn't really easy to find online either. They have to remember that this isn't a regular event where only the top players are drawing interest in their performance

[@gabbygolfgirl]

Would anyone like to see @rickshiels vs GabbyGolfGirl on YT????

[@genotone]

No

[@HuggaTeeRex]

Absolutely!!!!

[@StomperGolf]

I’d like to see a Rick Gabby and stomper golf collab 😉

[@BOYDY84]

Yeah bring it on gabby

[@SigmaJAD]

Sitting on a beach listening yo this. Not missing my homeland Scottish weather. Enjoyed this. Thx lads

[@joeyjoejoeshabadoo]

Where's the Titleist fitting gone, Rick?

[@SlicersGolf]

Happy to have you back, Rick! Cheers to a great video with bones.

[@Smiththebat]

Also Guys point here 26:51 definitely comes through in Photography when you go back to using Film cameras.. its so refreshing to just have a finite amount of shots and you can’t check on them until you develop the whole roll of film!

[@craigmedeck6454]

I think it’s worth noting that Scottie lost the two stroke lead on literally the first hole of the tournament when he bogeyed and Xander birdied. It was tied on the second hole but he brought it back that day and shot the round of the day.

[@EnzoMinaldo]

Listened to it while practicing my putting on the putting green at my local course ! Really funny to realize I was putting with a Noodle + ball !

[@janoelfke1004]

Rick should just do his own creator tournament with more europeans in it. Peter Finch, matt fryer, james robinson, gaz, iona, average golfer and so on.

[@malcolmbell5266]

Yeah but he won't because he really doesn't like loosing.

[@BIIIKES]

Won't show up to these types of events, but wonders why he stopped getting invited.

[@berniedaley3358]

Thought it was disgusting how you never mentioned how well Peter Finch did. Not of the green eyed monster there Rik?

[@craigsmith2030]

Agree @berniedaley3358 it would have been a nice touch to give peter a shout out,

[@rossankers6771]

😊

[@jakhaughton1800]

Women’s golf is more attainable to the lower handicap men. At my old course we used to have ladies playing in four balls. They were on the ladies tour and were brilliant. The tour player we played with out drove our best man. Fantastic.

[@kavanpyle1352]

I'm a master fitter in the us. We have just started seeing counterfeit stealth 2 drivers also

[@andyr5389]

The titleist video coming down just means his reviews are bias. Or at the least can be "managed" by manufacturers

[@A1BASE]

Have you never produced a piece of work that wasn’t your best, and wished you could take it back? Everyone has an off day sometimes.

[@andyr5389]

@A1BASE I get that. But... 1. It was recorded, edited, approved, and uploaded. It should never have been published then. How did it get through the entire process? No one would know it was even shot. 2. He says on lots of break 70 videos, he is having an off day and still publishes them. With both above and not addressing it, it "appears," titleist pressured him, which he says never happens.

[@Michael-bi9ll]

@@andyr5389could you summarise what happened?

[@andyr5389]

@Michael-bi9ll Rick went to a really expensive in-depth fitting at Titleist. (Others have to. Search, and you can see how in depth). He couldn't hit a ball anywhere close to his ping or other drivers on his HIT channel (distance, shape, dispersion) It was up for a couple days. Taken down. It is now an assumption he was pressured/paid to remove it. Which could be true, because if it's making him money being up, he could address it on the show, then maybe more could watch it.

[@Michael-bi9ll]

@@andyr5389 ahh thank you :), didn’t see the video so wondered what people were on about

[@snegreid]

When I was a teenager me and my best pal went on a golfing holiday to Arran and camped with our clubs. Lamlash is one of my favourite courses in Scotland. Lovely wee course.

[@ianstoddart8587]

If I got paid by the shot I'd be loaded 🤣

[@tomcrowe9146]

Ha Ha! I'd be a gazillionaire!

[@stuartmitchell713]

Welcome back Rick. Great episode

[@nowyouseeme88]

Love it!

[@juanpineda-montoya]

I think the youtubers that normally play as a scramble team because they are not good enough, could bring a lot of laughs and their personality shines, like you, guy and Matt and a guest would have been really funny

[@stuartpitcher9873]

Early to mid seventies, Peter Oosterhuis won the order of merit 4 consecutive years. One of the writers worked out that he earned about £3.38 per shot. How times change.

[@imCurveee]

I don't understand the issue with the Tour Championship... the most consistent golfer for the entire year is given an earned advantage at the start of the week. Its not like they randomly pick names out of a hat to see who will start at -10, players have to earn their spot. Besides, starting at -10 doesn't guarantee a win. Any player could choke it away. "It wasn't an exciting finish", yeah, sometimes that happens in golf. Any player on any day could shoot a 60 and start to run away with it.

[@dannymahon6929]

It certainly far better than the old system with expected points. That was impossible to follow. Funnily enough if you look at the scores if everyone started at level par, the finishing positions would have been almost identical (Morokawa would have won, just). It's probably the best solution. A matchplay would be class

[@peter11612]

Ice cream is worse than alcohol from a caloric point of view.

[@blue24563]

We all know why you didn’t get an invitation to the creator classic.

[@benlaforce2915]

I assume you think its because of his game? He's better than the dude perfect guy and a few others that were towards the bottom.

[@basementpool]

@@benlaforce2915that’s valid ya

[@CamMacMastermusic]

Ben and Jerry’s is a slippery slope my friend. Like literally a 99 slope rating. Be careful…..Trust me 😅

[@EliteDLM]

You not getting invited is an absolute travesty, but I respect you not bashing it simply for not getting an invite. There should be no doubt that you get an invite to the next one. Also I agree, the event was very fun to watch and they smashed it!

[@Antech91]

39:32 I see what you're saying , and I'd say that it depends on how you look at it as a sport. In one way, it makes perfect sense that he would have won the season prior to these last three competitions, just based on how many points he has earned. Like for example Premier League football style, no playoffs etc. Most points acquired at the end of a pre-determined amount of games/competitions wins season. Or you look at it like for example Ice hockey (NHL, SHL etc). As long as you make it to the playoffs, you have a chance of winning the entire season, but based on how good you've played during regular season you gain some advantages (sometimes pick first round to play against, better seeding, home ice advantage etc.) It all depends on how "fair" you want it to be, or just simply that you have to be the very best when it means the most, to be ultimate clutch in your play. Yes, injuries happen, but that's all part of the game. Personally, i see no problem with either - however I always prefer playoff system, underdogs given the chance etc. Also, it's to me absolutely WILD that you were not invited to the Creator Classic. For me you are the OG-golf content channel out there. Big fan of you guys, keep doing what you do!

[@mskid1166]

I think a big part of the creator that’s being missed, was it was a chance to see how these players who we watch on KZbin, even if they are low handicap (not sure if the tour wanted anyone having a real rough time out there and it wouldn’t have helped time wise) would play on a tour championship course with greens and rough like that. They obviously wanted some sort of competition so they did what they did, but I think the “winner” and best KZbinr talk wasn’t as much of the goal as it’s being made out to be IMO

[@shoffy01]

I live in Texas, where we can golf 12 months a year & 90% of the days are 90 degrees (F)

[@johno6681]

golfing under 90 F is not acceptable. It's gonna ruin the body

[@azdbuk]

Phx just hit 100+ days of 100 degrees....not sure which is worse. TX has bugs and humidity. Both are hideous. I grew up playing summers in Phx.

[@NextFairwayNorm]

Abit shocked you didn’t get an invite to Creator event at Tour Champs. Scottie’s year one of the best ever. Can relate to your round with random clubs. I’m trying find the clubs I really wanted as a kid to occasionally use on social rounds

[@Sentio9999]

for the creators classic: one nice thing from a scratch golfers perspective. you had a spattering of low handicap, scratch, and + handicappers. so you could kind of see the difficulty from a more realistic point of view compared to the pros.

[@Smiththebat]

Finally, the Tour Championship format still needs to be tuned, imo. I’m not sure what’s a better way to do it but… I dislike how players get a head start. It just ISN’T equivalent of earning home field advantage or whatever in other sports.

[@gamebaggolf]

I think given Rick is more of a break 75 guy its unlikely he would have contended.

[@paulsilverston5188]

I dunno he has beat Grant and peter. I was sad he didn't kaddie for pete

[@inb4230]

​@@paulsilverston5188yeah,when they had a stinker 8 over round and Rick shot 79 on his hand picked 6000 yards course. Course was playing 8600 yards, shiels would've scored 100+ in 8 holes. Grant and pete shoot 72 or better constantly, shiels..yeah he "beat grant " playing a small links course in the rain the day after horvat arrived..without his clubs, or clothes,I'll bet my life savings horvat wipes the floor with Rick 99/100 times, and the time Rick gets him he shoots 5 or 6 over..as usual when he's playing well

[@stabilis8895]

​@@inb4230Thanks for saying that so I didn't! 👍🏻

[@blanketwolf9498]

Look at Rick's eyebrows. never see him the same again!! lol

[@leospaceman2976]

He gets them trimmed at the same place as grant horvat

[@5IveNDlme]

Rick- if you say Adidas like that, please tell me you say Porsche with two syllables! 😂

[@morkusmorkus6040]

For the Creator Classic, I'd like to see something like 'Top 8 Get Automatic Invite to Next Years Event'. It would be good as it would be something to play for for those lower down the rankings.

[@bigjmal]

I am 100% onboard with eating a tub of ice cream when I’m trying it to drink.

[@Smiththebat]

Noodles are some of MOST popular balls where I live here in Ontario. Probably because you usually can buy 32 balls for like 40$CAD.

[@utube4stevie]

Hey Rick you are normally upfront with your comments so why no mention of why you took down the Titleist fitting video?

[@mcunha81]

Looking forward to that Qi10 clone video. I just watched a video when someone bought a fake fujikora driver shaft for 20 dollars ,38 shipping ,and it actually out performed the real shaft. It was better for ball speed,distance, and even dispersion,but it had more flex and he didn't think it would last very long,but was so interesting to watch.

[@glenj.taylor2938]

Mr. Shiels 100% should have been invited and of course there's the Great Grant Horvat. There's also a few more influencers that could have been there but overall, I think it went fairly well. Congrats to Luke!

[@cwugrad396]

apparently grant was not available to play

[@kjellatrondsen7877]

@@cwugrad396 too busy playing golf with Don Jr s daughter. He need to suck up to some Trumps since Bryson did it.

[@malcolmbell5266]

I actually think even had he not been on holiday he would not have gone anyway. Rick doesn't like loosing. Peter puts himself out there and went to the one hosted by GoodGood as well. Rick just does his own thing and doesn't do anywhere near as much content with other KZbinrs as Peter does

[@lvond555]

It should go to seeded match play based on the points for the final 30 so it would match playoffs like other sports

[@seanfffails2423]

It's interesting what you are saying about womens golf tournaments and the atmosphere around it, it's the same in football we take our 2 youngest daughters to watch the ladies team as it's more family friendly. Maybe something that is across all sports.

[@tommy-dylanmartinez3921]

Pga playoffs should be match play between seeds (1 vs lowest e.g.) and then the tour championship at the end should just be a normal stroke play event. Maybe even top seeds get a first round bye. It would make the playoffs more interesting

[@bronda57]

Hey guys. They were miked up for their own channels. All of them put up their own rounds on their channels. I also reckon they need to be able to play. Watching Luke's & Taco's channel, you see what good golf is with personality too.

[@joshramirez7]

It's a playoff. We need match play. It doesn't matter how good the players season was, the playoffs are a new thing all together that need more weight and interest for anything to happen. Thats how most sports in America are like anyway. Its way too gimmicky right now.

[@davidhickey8613]

the creator classic needs to be handicapped imo. its super casual, invite some personalities out, have a field of 40 or so and mic everyone. I think the event serves to answer the question of what would a normal person shoot on a tour setup vs what the pros shoot the following days. Have some prize money for charity, closest too's, long drives, and just have it be normal players having a go at a really changing course. once a year would be perfect.

[@Chris54321]

I think most people would agree with you but I liked the fact that it was not casual. Seeing people who make a living from golf entertainment competing in serious golf I found interesting. I would really like to see a competition between the top KZbin Golf coaches but I don't think we will ever see that.

[@pudwellion]

As good as Scheffer was this year.. would he have won so much if the LIV guys were there.

[@leospaceman2976]

Yes

[@Thetruth3434]

No question

[@getfitwithswitch]

Guy "Wom... FEMALE" - Nice save 😂👌

[@robd7126]

When will you be responding to the Legends Tour video. I think when you accused them of cheating, that's a big deal in golf. We need some response pretty quickly, it's really bad form mate!

[@ThePositive88]

How can Rick not be invited to creators challenge baffles me. He is the biggest one on youtube by subscribers and has done great for popularity of golf.

[@jaadmaan8156]

He probably was invited

[@robCaB]

Maybe real life Rick is more like Titleist Rick.

[@p4fizzle]

​@@robCaB😂

[@thomasblock1164]

Well, didn't Rick just say he got back from a 2 week family vacation? Might that be a conflict? Plus, Rick is so inconsistent that he might do damage to his brand if he goes out and shoots 5 strokes behind the field. No shade intended. Just a couple possibilities.

[@k0pite1989]

is this a serious question? if you clearly watch his videos, u will see that even the PGA understand he aint good enough to play. and his attitude at time it atrocious, (thinks hes alot better than he is) it wat happen wen the co-host blows smoke up his a$$ every round

[@mj8711]

need a photo of RS with his 2 diamond earrings pls ...

[@OllieW501]

Why on earth would you not go abroad, Rick? Madness sir, madness!

[@vonnyrotten]

Scottie did exactly what he needed to do to win(good on him!), but he absolutely didn't dominate. He would've only come in 3rd in that tourney if he didn't have the head start.

[@MichaelHaggerty-c6i]

When I first stopped drinking I was eating candy bars and drinking loads of Coca-Cola. Crazy how you substitute the sugar. 🤷‍♂️

[@terryhierlihy4111]

Ah, holiday in the UK...if you like the weather, you will love the food.

[@kenhilker2507]

Congrats on the three-month milestone! What motivated the change?

[@ersgutertilman]

Just my personal opinion, as someone that just started golf mainly because of youtube content. I think a creator Classic should include bryson dechambeau either as commentator or in scramble play and rick... It has to be miced up so you can have the interactions of the players. Scramble play i think would have made a better viewing experience and a more fun time. This mainly looked like a pro golf tournament, you only saw some creators like once or twice and you had 0 content created by the creators. They were just treated like pros. Maybe the creators wanted that but i think a creator event should center fun over performance.

[@peterdray9921]

What happened to the event Rick was talking about organising months back, we’re all waiting for it.

[@davidcole2337]

Very Surprised Rich Shiels didn't play? You were one of the creator of the Golf themed Channels.

[@craigmeikle7634]

Why have they not addressed the elephant in the room? Should have come out and told the truth behind the fitting video being taken down

[@patrickbeach3070]

2 flights. One scratch event, one handicapped.

[@AndersonMolter]

nice

[@IverKnackerov]

Two weeks in Scotland ? Awful weather is par for the course I’m afraid

[@argunaut]

Lighting is so harsh and cold. What happened?

[@thewaygokid3135]

As soon as you create a playoff at the end of a season, there is no guarantee the player with the best season wins. Just like other sports that have playoffs. Otherwise, they can run it like F1 and Scheffler would have won the season well before the last event and could have faked a season ending injury

[@alexterry9483]

Rick, you had two diamond earrings! 😃

[@huddwah]

Rick, your kids might like the idea of having their own golf podcast with you focusing on junior golf ? How better to grow the game for young boys and girls ! Have they seen the "The Short Game" documentary? Would love to know all about global junior golf... Your kids could review that on the podcast, other movies, content or anime, golf video games etc etc or even interview juniors...? I'd love this for my daughter and son who are into golf at ages 8 and 6... They saw and loved happy Gilmore (too young admittedly) and are now watching "Rising Impact" anime wirh English dub on Netflix and they have been begging me to take them to play golf every day after school... Help all us golfing Dad's out please Rick.. i want to play with my kids til I'm 90+ !! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@ashleyknightley6008]

Was hoping you would mention the football more than once.

[@simoncottam8707]

Guy, or Rick, what happened to the Walk150 documentary??

[@robertrenekerjr6819]

I get Scottie looks like a normal guy, but no way could he walk around a golf training center without being recognized.

[@Mum3nR1d3r19]

Hes been over the top harsh recently in his "reviews" I'll be surprised if brands dont start skipping him on sending new stuff. Ping, Titleist, overall negativity during most videos.

[@kevinconnolly754]

.maybe your just wanting to believe all the marketing hype. No brands are knocking down the door with ground breaking stuff.

[@caleballen8862]

If you’re nervous I got you at +7

[@richgarey6079]

On the Tour Championship - does anyone really think Scotty played the same being 5 ahead as he would have if he was 1 or 2 behind? Just look at what he did when it got down to 2 ahead - he put it in a different gear and roared back to 5 ahead. So saying Colin actually won is very disingenuous.

[@korizen]

Scottie Scheffler is the best right now, but the PGA Tour has a horrible issue with a high majority of top LIV players would challenge him with out doubt. Rahm, Bryson and others would definitly put pressure on him and to me you would see that in the results. I am torn as I think he is that good, but with a large number of top 50 players would make the percentages tougher to win. I hope that something gets done soon and these players can play each other again in tournaments other than the majors.

[@mikerichardson60]

you're kidding right? Rahm is now an exhibition golfer as shown by his performances in the majors this season. BDC played well in the majors but the rest of the LIV crew were frankly a joke

[@robmurray6676]

I enjoy watching women’s golf but they have to fix slow play, however because they are all slow nothing is done. I couldn’t quite believe what I was hearing when on the Thursday when Charlie Hull’s group putted out on the 18th, Laura Davies on Sky sports mentioned that they teed off 6hrs 20 mins earlier😮. The weather was an issue which had some impact but that’s just ridiculous

[@duncanbush453]

Mix the KZbinrs with PGA players and play 2 man scramble. Mic them all up. Would be true KZbin.

[@paulsilverston5188]

Pete and Rck would be an amazing team.

[@brentjewell9641]

Ya, that makes no sense that you were not invited Rick

[@johno6681]

It's a shame that PGA TOUR did not invite Rick Shiels to Creater Classic

[@beachfraser3747]

Sorry its difficult to believe you didnt get invited, why didnt you play mate??

[@samandglove]

Rick should have been invited, not only for his play, but out of respect. Guy, I’m not questioning Scottie’s year (it’s been incredible), but doesn’t the fact that many of his accomplished peers (DJ, Bryson, Koepke, Cam Smith, etc…) have been playing on another tour bring down the significance of his year. When Tiger (or even Vijay Singh and David Duval) had his monster years, he played against everyone. It’s not his fault, but Scottie’s year can’t be ranked historically high without including these omissions.

[@simonstratman299]

Sorry a bit random. Have you or your kids watched Rising Impact , they may enjoy it.

[@ianb1813]

Why not use the handicap system for the fedex points but not for the actual tournament because Scotty has been the best player but won the event without actually winning it

[@Pud56]

In the 1920’s Woman’s golf was as big as Men’s game. The Opening of Pasatiempo golf club is on the historic Pathe news channel, Bobby Jones and Glenna Collet from the US played Cyril JH Tolley and Joyce Wethered from the UK, all amateurs, the crowds are 6 deep. Joyce Wethered challenged men off the same tees in money games and rarely lost. The two wars changed golf, and woman’s golf went into decline. It’s on its way back, which is great news.

[@Boags]

Up The Reds!!! YNWA :)