7 Things That Give Riders a False Sense of Security

[@ridefitnation]

Excellent video. Safety is something that riders tend to ignore just like they ignore their health until its threatened by sickness.💪🏾

[@RidingandWrenching]

Yes sir. I can't relate to your statement. I am not a fitness junkie like you. I wish that I were. I am starting to pay more attention to my health as my doctor has told me that I don't have a choice! I love riding and I don't want my poor decisions on health to force me to retire from riding sooner that I want to.

[@Kvnhidalgo]

As a gen z, a lot of social media, specifically TikTok, heavily influences new riders to go straight to the baddest motorcycle they can get, with no experience. So yeah, you make a valid point about tounger people feeling bulletproof.

[@RidingandWrenching]

It's human nature! I'm glad I waited until I turned 50 to start riding. I wouldn't be here today. I was an extremely irresponsible driver when I was young.....I was lucky!

[@vidman3WM]

Thank you for the advice. Your videos make me think about how I can improve my riding skills.

[@RidingandWrenching]

Take classes and practice like a mad man.....you can do it!

[@helodriver20]

Went out and practiced today! 🤙🏻❤️🇺🇸

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@helodriver20 good stuff!! That's what it's all about!

[@kman-mi7su]

Good video Cue, I would've added 8. ABS. I was in a discussion with somebody who got upset over that. They were of the mindset that their bike's ABS system would save them if the crap hit the fan. That is not always the case. When I went through motor school we practiced maximum braking or as some call it, threshold braking. I still practice that. We would do this to maximize the use of the brakes without activating ABS. The goal when braking is to be in full control at all times. When your ABS kicks in for whatever reason, you've lost control and the bike has taken control of your braking for whatever time it deems necessary.

[@RidingandWrenching]

Great point. Once panic kicks in, riders tend to grab the brakes. That's something I need to work on.

[@karenshoucairmcgray4902]

Good video, and nice riding Cue! 😊

[@RidingandWrenching]

Thank you!

[@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures]

Fantastic video brother. You could’ve left the part out where I almost ran into you 😂 You nailed it on the head when you said “You can watch all the KZbin videos, but you won’t get better unless you practice”. I’m a firm believer in that! Also, you’re looking good in the cones!

[@RidingandWrenching]

Thanks bro! We have come a LOOOOONGGGG way my friend!

[@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures]

@@RidingandWrenchingno doubt!

[@s.s.goldwing9797]

Great information Que! Great job on the exercise patterns😊

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@s.s.goldwing9797 thank you sir!

[@toreanobarnes5848]

Are you doing any slow speed practice session

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@toreanobarnes5848 I practice, but I don't hold Practice Sessions. Anyone is welcome to come out. Maybe the weekend of the 24th.

[@toreanobarnes5848]

@@RidingandWrenching where and time

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@toreanobarnes5848 I normally practice in the parking lot of Arlington Middle School. I'll post the date/time a few days in advance.

[@toreanobarnes5848]

Ok thx my name is Bishop

[@mrjkjhoedog]

I know I'm taking more of a risk by wearing my half helmet 90% of the time but I just like the feel of it better. I usually only wear my full face in cold weather and long rides however I decided to not take it with me on the Run to the Hills ride and definitely had to pull over in the mountains when it started coming down because I just couldn't see. I do prefer modular though so I can hydrate and snack while riding and don't have to wait until I pull over.

[@RidingandWrenching]

This is my first riding season wearing a modular. You get use to it, but I understand the comfort of wearing a half helmet. Normally, I would only wear a full face in the rain or if it's cold. With my modular, I always ride with the visor open.....unless it's raining or cold.

[@KenGrant_LockandLean]

Another informative video, well done, sir!! On your riding, nice utilization of space in the offset weave!! I'm also noticing that your right U-turns are looking good, so good in fact that they're tighter than your lefts. Nice!! 👍👍👍

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@KenGrant_LockandLean a wise man once told me to maximize the space, maintain my speed, and attack the dead zone. The offset cone weave that I emailed to you was tighter than the one in this video.

[@CATmanATL22]

Q: I always ride with safety gear and a full face helmet. The biggest mistake I see is people wearing modular Helmets, I think that’s the biggest fault sensitive security among motorcyclist. They think because it’s a full face helmet. It’s safe, but most of the time what I see is riders riding with the front open, that defeats the purpose of full phase.

[@RidingandWrenching]

Great point! I ride with the visor open, but the chin guard down and locked in place. I will pull it open at stop lights.

[@Hog-g2z]

Good morning 🌅, that was sound advice, practising makes perfect, at least helps, I was riding in the region of Lemoge in France last week, I’ve already passed comment on this, a couple riding a bagger, T-shirt and shorts , and obviously a helmet open face, female on back, Might as well not been wearing anything, in event of accident just called the buzzards in they will clean up the mess, Some people even past comment of what I’ve put down, it’s peoples rights to wear whatever they like, but it is the people that have to go along and clean up the mess afterwards and tell the families what has happened to them, Especially riding on motorway conditions 70/80 miles an hour, they didn’t appear to be hanging around, , I’m now in my 70s. I have just recently purchased a secondhand deuce., which by the way has not been knocked after very well, And I haven’t ridden a bike for about 6 to 7 years, My location means that I have to concentrate very hard on the road surfaces, just recently been resurfaced very slippery, extremely sharp bends, and very steep hills up and down, with adverse camber, I have to ride somewhere in the region of 6 to 7 miles before I get onto the main highway into a town or village, Even in a car or a van you cannot do no more than 35 to 40 miles an hour along these these pieces road, And likewise going round the bends you are lucky to be able to do anywhere between five and 10 miles an hour as they are so sharp, I’m hoping to do a long ride in a few weeks time, down into Spain which is about 500 miles, I’m slowly rebuilding my strength, The most I’ve done so far is 250 miles in one day, I suffered the next day, especially as I do not have a female to help massage my back anymore 😂, I have more chance of going to the moon than that ever happening, a good soak in the bath, 😂 , being aware of your countryside, and our other people use or abuse the road, Ride safe ride free, please wear your protective clothing, From France.

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@Hog-g2z as always....thank you for the thorough reply. Do you have a back rest? I find that helps take alot of pressure off my back.

[@Hog-g2z]

@@RidingandWrenching Hi CUE , not really, there is a step in the seat , HD seat , on my previous deuce I had a Huntmaster I think it was seat which was a gel seat, I found that very comfortable especially riding long distances that I used to do 20 years ago, Don’t know whether I should be proud or not, but I have done what they call a butt crack ride, 1000 miles in approximately 24 hours, Seven of us riding from UK down into Portugal, not for the faint hearted seven of us, it was great fun, Specially riding at night time with no traffic on the road, And this is where you need to know what you are capable of and what your fellow riders can do, and making sure your bike is well serviced and has no problems whatsoever, Going back to the seat , depending on my funds over the winter period, I might purchase another gel seat, not all that keen on backrests, as if there is a problem I’d like to be able to get Off, I’ve always been a great believer to get away from the bike involved in an accident, I’ve had one serious accident when I was in my late teens early 20s, I was riding across what we call the Fens in the UK, it is extremely uneven service, And I was riding a Northern dominator that I’ve been chopped, I hit a bump at quite high speed for that period of time, and the bike shot me off the road whereby I came back on the road and the road difference from where I went off to where I came back on was about foot in height in different, I took off, I ended up with a broken leg, broken arm and badly damaged shoulder, Luckily, I was wearing one of the new type and then full face helmets, but there was not a lot left of it, nor my clothes, A few years later, mid 20s, I was going through roundabout going into the village where I lived, I could go through the roundabout at quite speed around about 60 to 65 miles an hour, as I whipped the left and right, The bike decided to disappear from underneath me, I remember as I was coming into the roundabout that I could smell diesel or something along them, I was going through on the bike had literally got diesel running across the road, there was no way I could’ve gone through that without losing control anyway, luckily I did not hurt myself. I just slid down the road a little bit of damage to my bike., though my poor female partner grazed her backside very badly, The best accident that I’ve ever been in , I was stationary in a junction in Barcelona in 2003, with a load of my friends and colleagues sitting on their bikes all alongside me a guy on a VR 750 Honda I believe, pull the wheelie on the other side of the road hit a pedestrian sorry two pedestrians, He obviously came off his bike. I believe he broke his ankle. , his bike was heading towards a coach by itself, all of a sudden the bike fell over on its side, and help towards me hitting my front wheel, and doing approximately 3 1/2 thousand pounds worth of damage to my bike, the bike literally flipped under me, My so-called X female partner, She was bruised, she was more interested in the paramedics and the police that were around, Giving her attention, she was laughing it up, and this is the main reason why she is now my ex, been loyal and faithful to somebody, and having that done in front of you, it is not nice, Regards from France.

[@riding2nowhere]

Speaking of safety, what's up with the half helmet? I thought full face helmets was safer. 🏍

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@riding2nowhere great question. I wear a full face 95% of the time I ride. When I am training in a parking lot, I wear a half helmet. All of my helmets are DOT. I do not wear novelty helmets.

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@riding2nowhere just be clear. I don't profess to be perfect. My view of full face helmets has evolved. Prior to this year. I wore half helmets at all times unless it was cold or raining. I was nearly hit in the face with a football on an interstate. Since then, I wear a full face at all times unless I'm in a parking lot practicing.

[@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures]

It’s a controlled environment. I wear a half helmet as well while training. Full face on the street. It gets hot out there!

[@Old-n-slo-locked-n-leaned]

Full face helmets DEFINITELY offer more protection; however, there’s a debate with some motor officer training schools whether they are actually “safer”. Truth is gear is your third priority level of safety. #1 is your riding approach , #2 is your skill in controlling your motorcycle, especially in emergency situations and #3 is protective gear. An easy way to remember this is the saying “Develop exceptional skills and ride in a manner where you will never have to use them.” As far as the debate on full face helmets, they DEFINITELY can negatively affect your situational awareness, i.e. field of vision, hearing, etc. Spend as much effort as possible developing the higher priority levels of safety vice having that false sense of security with gear that Que pointed out. I had a motor officer instructor tell me that if you ride like an idiot the full face helmets just keep your face pretty for your Momma to see when your in the coffin. He also pointed out that most Sport Bike riders have full face helmets……complimented with shorts/tennis shoes and t shirts, etc. His comment to that is wearing a full face helmet and crashing with shorts and tennis shoes would just make you wish you were dead. Now. These seem like outrageous comments but they make you think.

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@Old-n-slo-locked-n-leaned outstanding feedback! My opinion on safety gear has evolved. I make a conscientious effort to wear more safety gear. I also make a concerted effort to practice....ALOT! Riding is much more fun when you know how to handle the motorcycle. Those who are too afraid to take lessons are missing out.

[@Jim_Berry]

A few years ago I read somewhere that it only takes an impact to the head at 13 mph to be deadly (MSF or maybe in “Staying Safe” by Lawrence Grodsky). You could literally be at a complete stop, fall over to the side, hit your head on the curb and it could be fatal because the motion could reach 13mph. So, I wear a helmet anytime I’m riding. Good video Cue! BTW, Staying Safe is a good book you should check out.

[@RidingandWrenching]

I'll check it out! People have died tripping and falling into a coffee table. It doesn't take much!

[@KrakensGarageandAdventures]

Some solid points. My advice is to take classes and become a good rider 1 mile at a time.

[@RidingandWrenching]

Exactly!

[@FletcherFord1]

Still love the end of your videos. Especially the Biggest little KZbin channel on the interweb!

[@RidingandWrenching]

I have some doozies planned for future videos! Stand by!

[@HDVIBE]

Great points. I especially agree with the I have been riding for 30 years and they can't make a 20 foot uturn or stay in the lane when making a 90 degree right turn.

[@RidingandWrenching]

Agreed. Sadly, experienced riders are the hardest to convince that they need to train. They think they already know everything.

[@richc767]

I moved to a state with a helmet law 30 years ago. Prior to that I never wore a helmet in the state where there was no helmet law. Now I must say I always wear a helmet. I think I have grown to the point where I no longer think of myself as immortal. I do need to do more low speed practice.

[@RidingandWrenching]

Me too! My position on helmets has evolved. I have always worn a helmet, but my primary helmet use to be a half helmet. Now I normally wear full face (unless I'm in the parking lot practicing or riding to my local fav restaurant)

[@robrodriguez7649]

Hi Que no a full face does not give you a false since of security . It only saves your teeth from bugs and rocks flying into your face lol . The thing that would give you a false sense of security would be an air bag vest and protective pants and boots .

[@ricotime9264]

Cue the 1st 5 steps ✊🏽

[@RidingandWrenching]

Thank you!

[@road_king_dude]

No. 8: Having a CVO

[@DNiddy]

LOL - Exactly!!

[@RidingandWrenching]

Type of bike means nothing more than a personal choice.

[@road_king_dude]

@@RidingandWrenching False. It's a known fact. 90-something% of CVO riders were too busy making six-figure incomes to make the time to develop the skills to be proficient riders. In fact, according to the National Association of CVO Riders of America, the CVO models appeal to the most unskilled riders that use their CVOS as diversions so that most riders won't notice that they can only ride in a straight. And that's a straight up shoot.

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@road_king_dude sounds like you hate CVOs. Why worry about how much money someone else makes? What does that have to do with motorcycle riding? I'd comment on the rest but I'm stuck on the wealth envy part.

[@road_king_dude]

@@RidingandWrenching I comment in jest. CVOS are awesome!! So is your video! Shiny side up my homie

[@JustGKue]

You know my stance lol. FF or. Nuthing!

[@RidingandWrenching]

I'm hard headed bro. It took a near death experience with a football to change my mind! I ride FF at all times unless I'm practicing in a parking lot

[@jessieholt9238]

Great video. I think I would have liked you to include speed as a factor also

[@RidingandWrenching]

I mentioned speed. Definitely a killer in the wrong hands

[@Butcho108]

Thank you Commander Cue. Great reminder what this material world is about. The ancient Vedic scriptures remind us there is "danger at every step". Lotsa' denial sometimes found with moto riders.

[@RidingandWrenching]

Yep. I don't think mentioned it in the video, but the worst are the riders who think they know everything. All of us can learn.

[@GeemailMailboxx]

I love safety tips from a guy in thin jeans, t shirt and half helmet. 😅 Keep it up que. 😉👍

[@RidingandWrenching]

Checking out my jeans eh? My position on safety gear is well documented. I don't need full gear to do circles in a parking lot.....but you are free to do what you like

[@GeemailMailboxx]

@@RidingandWrenching That's where you are wrong my friend. Practicing slow speed skills is where you are certainly going to be falling and possibly hitting your little coconut on the blacktop. Way more likely than when you ride down the Road. PS, tighten those jeans up in the crotch area, seems to be a lot of empty space there. 🤭🏍️💨

[@RidingandWrenching]

😂you are full of jokes today! I always wear a helmet when I practice. I have considered practicing in a full face helmet....because that is how I normally ride. My half helmet is a DOT helmet. I don't wear novelty helmets. I can relate to falling off the bike slow speed training....I have fallen ALOT....now I don't fall as much.

[@CWheelz]

Leave us millennials alone. I'm middle-aged 41 with a pepperd beard. We lost the invisible feeling years ago. I think it's the gen z we pick on now 😊.

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@CWheelz 😂😂I call anyone younger than myself a millennial! My children are millennials....I pick on them too!

[@CWheelz]

@@RidingandWrenching 😆 It's all love. I appreciate the great content!

[@4940markhutchins]

The safety of a helmet while you’re wearing a beanie? Might as well wear some tin foil on your head

[@RidingandWrenching]

good grief. Congrats on missing the point

[@dugbucky3298]

Group riding gives others a false sense of security, (if they can do it, I can too). I believe in a small group you should put the least experienced rider in front and, don't push them from behind. give them the room they need to make adjustments. Thanks Cue,

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@dugbucky3298 that's a good one!

[@dugbucky3298]

BTW, headed to Colorado springs this weekend for a class with Robert. Like you I have have attended, IDK, 8-10 classes in the last 4 years. they are money and time well spent. I'll tell him Hi for you.

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@dugbucky3298 awesome! I love taking classes. It makes riding more so much more fun! Tell everyone I said hello!

[@bigg2768]

Gotta disagree with OP of this comment. Have tried it with my friends, 4 of us. Unless ur gonna give that most inexperienced rider A LOT of distance, it’s dangerous. Even with distance, ur always catching up and then dropping back. BORING as hell. Uncertainty, lack of skill, is no place for a lead. And, the friend with the least experience who did lead, once, hated it. Felt more like he needed to push his skills than if tail gunner. It’s human nature.

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@bigg2768 I do a lot of group riding with my club. We focus on safety. As you said, less experienced riders go in the back.

[@ricotime9264]

Great video …. I’m curious I’m trying to find a parking lot in my town …. What parking lot do you use …. Thanks ✊🏽

[@RidingandWrenching]

@@ricotime9264 I use a middle school parking lot. I normally practice on Saturday or Sunday morning. There have only been a couple times where I laid down a bunch of cones only to discover they were having an event. Anyone who practices with me, I ask them to keep their radios off and no "hot dogging" in the parking lot.

[@ricotime9264]

@@RidingandWrenching Thank you yea I take practice seriously ✊🏽