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[@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving]

💦 If you missed it, here is our well-drilling video kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4fPhHWdmaZqesU

[@ivang97997]

Martin, you need to install insulation underneath the floor to keep the house warm and prevent pipes from freezing during winter time.

[@priusrepellent]

Love the new film quality! New phones? New equipment too?

[@williamparker917]

Just FYI spammer trying to contact me on the comment I left earlier.

[@bobcole3852]

I think a spammer wanted me to do what's ap. I just wanted more info on hand pump, wasn't in well drilling video

[@PraiseTheLord817]

Your HISEA product tester link doesn't work. I had to go to their website to register and hopefully it took as it doesn't say if your signup is completed or not.

[@billyhaddock5540]

Congrats Guy's on getting ur water pipes done and working great.. Julie face after the first taste was priceless..

[@roywaite5793]

Two suggestions: 1. Install a sediment filter before the tank to avoid sediment build up in the tank. Having two sediment filters (one before & one after the tank.) 2. Glue a bushing with female threads into the LB box so you can install a romax connector for the #12 gauge romax wire going into the LB.

[@PituWillson]

I got all of my filtrations done before the tank,and in the tank i have a UV lamp ,but yes the sediment filter is the minimum

[@OvhanDevos]

I was just about to suggest something similar. On one hand, if you can clean out the tank, letting the sediment settle out means less usage on the sediment filter. But on the other hand, it just makes more sense to me to run all the filters BEFORE the tank. Run less chance of damaging anything after that. But I guess it might also depend on how things work, like the filters might not be able to handle the higher pressures on the line between the well and the tank.

[@Eggugat]

Should never put a sediment filter before the pressure tank, will effect how the pressure switch acts. Sediment on the bottom of the tank isn't an issue. Only time I will come out is if you drain the tank down or run out of water.

[@guytech7310]

Nope. issue is that some time filter get clogged, and it can burn up the pump motor. One option is to install two tanks: a small one with the pressure switch on it, and a second tank on the other side of the filter(s). The LB isn't the right electical box. It should be a box which you can install romex connector clamps (usually with threaded holes). You cab by cast alum or plastic rectangular electrical boxes that will except threaded flex conduit connections & romex wire connector clamps.

[@guytech7310]

@@PituWillson Not a good idea because of one of the filters gets clogged, it can burn up the pump motor.

[@williammcguire6678]

I think in the future you might want to bleed those lines longer before drinking it bc those filters don't get all the plastics past them and it takes a bit to get those out

[@douglaswindsor120]

Our family used to build cisterns and we put them in for holding the water from a well with low flow I've drank a lot of different tasting water but I found one I couldn't drink it had a high iron content and a high soda content with the high soda content it was smooth and soft going down but the high iron content it felt like it was going right on through it was the only well water I couldn't drink although the well we have now is a second one I can't drink it's got a high coal content and I've been afraid to try and drink it so we buy buy our drinking water but we use the well for everything else

[@MrCarl312]

Your filter system really paid off. Question is how long before you have to replace those filters.

[@douglascampbell7006]

Great video, another major project completed. Good work you two!

[@redmatrix]

Isn't better to taste the filtered water first, to have a clear pallet?

[@rachmadharahap1952]

Can you stil speaking bahasa Indonesia?

[@klokskap_]

Great video! I would suggest you put the carbon filter at the end to extend the life span! When I built our filter system, we were instructed to always put the carbon last in the chain!

[@tombrown6464]

My thought also, get the nasties out first then run it through the carbon filter.

[@danielhaapala7042]

Ten years in the water conditioning industry taught me to filter the worst elements first and then the taste (carbon filter) last. Sentiment, minerals, chemicals. Great video. Dan.

[@pepawspostings9231]

Yes I agree, same as we did

[@Rays_Bad_Decisions]

You can use large to small micron filters the same way. The problem with the carbon filter is they lose carbon in the water so it will clog your other filters also. However if you don't want random black particles in your water you can do the carbon before another 20 micron filter to stop the carbon. If you buy a white filter you will see the black carbon on it. I had to do a lot of filtration for high pressure aeroponics It's good to think of the carbon as a sponge. Over time it will take the same oh and chemicals as whatever it filters. The carbon becomes very concentrated with these elements

[@pachydermhomestead]

It is called an LB because the opening is opposite the cover, coming out the back. There are also LRs and LLs for going right and left. Hold the fitting like a pistol and the cover to the right is an LR and to the left an LL. I agree about putting a romex connector going into the LB. You wouldn't pass an inspection since the opening is not closed.

[@guytech7310]

LB is for conduit PVC pipe, not romex connector clamps. They should have used the right electrical box.

[@billwheawill6544]

Pressure gauges on filter assembly are a good way to keep track of filters. If pressure across filter is different by much time to change them.

[@naturallyblonderockingred]

New drinking game : take a shot every time Martin says Pipe dope 😆😆 id be 10 sheets to the wind now. Lol great video guys 💕 its great how you do step by steps and explainations. Helps us DIY novices for sure to understand it all x

[@waynegrant158]

Good afternoon Amy

[@juliejohnson9531]

So excited to be hooked up directly to the well! 💦

[@waynegrant158]

Good afternoon

[@michaelhadley696]

You guys are awesome, I had been racking my brain in my water adventures on my property. I have been following your videos from the beginning, I also have the battle born batteries, and the victron inverters, thanks to your videos. After seeing this, I ripped everything out and installed the 86 gallons tank from home depot. Best purchase ever!!! Also, I installed a Girard tankless rv water heater in our trailer, so we can take endless showers. I need to upgrade my filtration, as our water tastes metallic and is yellowish. Is there a part number or website where you got your filter unit? Thank you!!!

[@howardkendrick3525]

HISEA signup link does not work...Love your content!

[@mikerogers9711]

OOPS never use Rector Seal on any plastic. If you do not like teflon tape, use a Teflon based paste. just an fyi. also put a check valve between the tank tee and the filter, so you do not draw water back from the house. filter placement. sediment, iron manganese then carbon. never use the wrench to tighten the can, it is an o'ring seal. the wrench is to remove them

[@glenlevenhagen8967]

Have the water tested? Nice job M&J Johnson!

[@roberto.peterson9917]

I would of thought carbon filter be the last one on as carbon be taste the first 2 particulates and minerals

[@andrewtheologo1268]

I think it would have been better to put the 3 filters before the tank. I found that the carbon filter kills the flow to the point where you cant shower properly. If you put the filter first, the tank wont rust from the iron coming in and the tank will keep the pressure up.

[@guytech7310]

No, because if the filter becomes clogged it can burn up the pump.

[@andrewtheologo1268]

@@guytech7310 the pump should have a pressure switch, if the filter gets clogged, the switch turns off the pump. The filters can still get clogged where they are...

[@guytech7310]

@@andrewtheologo1268 Pumps do not have built in pressure switches. issue is that the pump does not know the depth of the well. The deeper the well the more pressure is required to pump the water out of the well. The pressure which needs to be install at least at the top of the well.

[@jeffdopp4470]

It's been an electrician for 20 years. That's an lb I'm sure you're going to get a million comments. . But you need a box not an lb. Glue a threaded ta PVC connector onto the end of your pipe so you can put it in a four square box or if the basement damp to Warrant an FS box that would be better yet. Then use a connector for your Romex

[@chriswest6090]

After a couple of years building RO systems in arctic communities I would suggest an RO membrane . You should also look at a UV light phase on the post filtration side , you might also want to consider a 300-500 gallon tank in the basement post filtration to store clean water an ozone aeration unit will help keep it fresh and having a stock of clean water in a heatable space may save you in an extreme winter season . It also seems better for pump longevity to pressurize your inlet water with one pump and distribute it with another located after the filtration and before the P Tank . This splits the draw load and the distribution pressurization load . We were building fill your own jug systems for the town stores in these tiny villages and when you are 2 or 3 airplane flights and at least as many days from any replacement parts or a service tech you learn pretty quick how to adapt these systems for absolute minimum hands on maintenance , after all who wants to pay 10-12 thousand dollars for someone to fly in and replace a 100 dollar pump ?

[@kevinproulx7787]

LB - LOAD BARING? I DONT KNOW WHY THEY CAL IT A LB

[@frankbradleyjr]

That's funny I'm watching you in this video an noticed I'm wearing the same shirt.

[@dougtodd5793]

the link doesn't work

[@DeanJohnson67]

having put in hundreds of wells in the past as well as servicing hundreds more add something like a iSpring WSP100ARB Spin Down Sediment Water Filter before the pressure tank! you can see the sediment so you know when to open the trap to empty heavy particulates as well as when to remove the filter to clean it.

[@mskippi]

It looks great, hope you have windows in and house totally weathered in. Winter is on the way 😊

[@blackIce504]

Hi mate have you thought about reverse Osmosis filters, they can even filter out salt it could be overkill or it could just not needed but anyway i thought i would mention it and for the water Snob check out Kangan water they have a machine that changes the ph of water and has its extra filter steps but they are expensive from what i understand they do some electrolysis on the water to get X PH that you can set. Keep making the Videos and we will keep watching.

[@jameshancock]

Wells should always be on 10 gauge (at least) wire. If you’re over 500 feet to the pump head you should be using 8 gauge

[@ModernMountainLiving]

In all things: Be The Wall. BTW the thumbnail looks like the movie Cacoon. Be Blessed

[@jcrackcorn]

L “B” = exits from back, L “R” exits on right, L “L” exits on left

[@JimfromIndy]

Removing the sharp nineties is completely negated by the myriad fittings you put in the longer runs, each of which causes friction.

[@robertmashburn5321]

Don’t ever put a filter before your pressure tank. If it plugs completely your pump and pressure switch cannot communicate with each other causing the pump not to turn on or worst case not turn off. If your bubbles do not go away you could have some methane in your water and a previous comment about check valve at the tank and outside hydrant not working when pump is off is spot on

[@herbostenkamp8982]

You guys do excellent work. You can build a house for me anytime.

[@3hwoodworks]

Best thing I have heard today….” I am not looking for gross!!”😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Great video folks! 😉

[@juliejohnson9531]

😂

[@haroldnewcomer3032]

Hello Marty and jewel’s from. Windber, Pa

[@briankappel9995]

Hey bud that no. 5 pipe dope is no good for abs plastic. That filter housing looked like it might be abs.

[@tombrown6464]

Did I miss the part where you mentioned what filter system you are using?

[@kevinclark4349]

What kind of water filter are you using , I would like to try them on my well system to get the iron and sediment out of the house water. If you can send me the info it help very much thank you. Kevin Clark

[@guytech7310]

Try contacting your local plumbing supply store, They probably know which filters work best for your area.

[@mikemmikem2758]

As another filter maybe one right at the faucet from under the sink? Just a thought.

[@dannyshort1413]

It’s called an LB because the connector comes out the BACK of the box. They also make LR and LL with the connection on the right and left. 🎃

[@dsmith9456]

Well may I sugest you use 2 UV lights, and not the small ones, the long ones. Your filtration seems adequate though you may want to add a further fine between the 2 UV's.

[@bubby3366]

you're outside hydrant next to the well isn't going to work with the check valve in the basement only if the pump is running at the time you turned it on👍

[@JamesCouch777]

Very good observation 👍

[@TomBlack91]

I was waiting for somebody else to catch this lol, I would install the check valve under the pitless for the hydrant to work

[@hubertwebb9869]

There is a whole bunch of dust floating around in your crawl space you should wear a mask while inside.❤❤❤❤

[@josephyourk3584]

Great job you guys. Love the kittens. My two cats are twins and 11 years old now. Martin and Julie, doing a super job. Keep up the great work.

[@donaldharen]

When I lived in Hawaii I had a similar system but suggest a couple changes for yours. My system had a sediment filter before the pressure tank and that helps keep the inside of that tank clean and the rubber bladder inside it will last longer. Also, I had 3 filters mounted in this order : first was sediment, second was charcoal/carbon, last was a UV filter which contained a UV light that kills 99.9% of bacteria. We didn't really need an iron filter but since you have a deep well I can understand the need for one in your situation. I had my water tested for bacteria to be sure it was a safe source of drinking water. It's a learning experience that is so important! God bless you all! I love watching your progress!

[@Eggugat]

The sediment will have no effect on the life of the tank, nor will dirty water. It more comes down to how often and how much water you use. The more the bladder expands and contracts, it gets pinched where a metal ring is crimped into the tank to hold it into place. I have never seen a filter before a tank besides and automatic sand separator. Putting filters before a tank can cause a pump to short cycle from the pressure switch not properly sensing tank pressure. Minerals in the water all come down to where the well is drilled not how deep. I have replaced pumps in 100 ft wells there are iron mines and I have also replaced pumps in 1300 ft well that are spotless. Just luck of the draw and local terrain really. Hopefully that helps some :)

[@guytech7310]

Bad idea, since if the filter gets clogged, the pump will burn up.

[@muhachil7684]

Don't have UV filters in that set?? Should have, for the germs..

[@TecraTube]

those filters are huge. my RO system was similar but a 1/10 of the size. during my installation, I was instructed to not drink the initial water passing through the filters but instead after 6-12 hours of the system and filters in use

[@ryankuhn]

What brand pump and model do you have? What psi do you end up with? Do you have a pressure tank? What depth did you put the pump?

[@williamparker917]

LB it's an L and the back opens. You can also get them where either to right or left side open

[@briankoch6937]

We are having a problem at our church we can't get a pastor I don't know why the reason is we always have a temporary one every week so far

[@jeffz1terry]

Do you have any way to bleed the pressure off of the filters after closing the valve? I suggest adding a bleeder. If not, it'll be difficult to unscrew the filters. Pressure guage on each side will show you your differential pressure also.

[@rienlamberts6661]

A pressure gauge,before and after the filterset will indicate,your filter polution.

[@johnmurphy3141]

Just a question would it be better to filter before the pressure tank? For a clean inside no buildup or sediment in tank?

[@guytech7310]

No, because a clogged filter can burn up the pump.

[@bobcole3852]

awesome! water is life and now you got the good stuff. personally, I'd put the carbon filter last. Tux and Watts...all the supervision you need!

[@bobcole3852]

Martin, went to your website. Found Simple Pump in water section. Their site says static depth 325 but you are much deeper How you do dat?

[@mid_south_schluter_rep]

Best Video Yet, really enjoyed how you showed the entire process. What’s the plan for the big black water tank? Water Catchment for the garden maybe?

[@goodluckchuck9311]

Would recommend adding a water softener before the filter, (I have a kinetico) I did what you did prior and spent two years of spending a ton on filters, the up front of a water softener is more but if you plan on the long haul it’s a saver and plus you can actually get 8 months on the filters. Side note, would add a uv filter system too, bulb change yearly and it’s cheap. Love the videos and good luck with off grip living

[@lizregan1949]

I live in a small town we have the worst hard water and what it does to water heaters and pipes is horrible. I don't drink it, I drink bottled water I know wrong on every level but I am looking at other ways like having water delivered. Good job as always guys.

[@garysaunders342]

LB is a term for condulets . L means 90* turn.B stands for the opening which is the back. You can get LLs and LRs. L is left R is right.

[@wallaceloper637]

Like I said 20 years of fighting iron in water finely got county water PS still got it just in case just paying

[@Zack-ib1lf]

Great video, as usual. “LB” = opening on the “Back”. LR and LL, opening on the left or right holding the short end in your hand and long end pointing away from you.

[@michaelbegley7256]

Great video. Can you provide a link to the filter you used?

[@billymckenzie369]

Down here in Mississippi we avoid those brass fittings, because they will eventually corrode from minerals in the water. Hope you don’t have that problem with your water.

[@ineverhadthemoney7857]

you have to run 5 gallons or more water through new filters to set taste .

[@joebeecher3919]

If you do not sell the tank, keep it for a fire department tank

[@artursmihelsons415]

Excellent video and great job! Best thing, that water will be provided by well from now! 👍 Will be emergency pump removed for winter, as usually, or will it be boxed in? 😏

[@briankoch6937]

That movie where that guy is riding the missile and she looks like that

[@Derjyn]

Typically with multi-stage filtration systems, you'd want to put your carbon filter at the last stage. Having iron and such filtered out before it hits that stage will greatly extend it's life!

[@keithkenny4576]

We call them big blue filters in South Africa, we still have dirty water coming through the filters so we do not drink tap water

[@ilonakatalindako-tolman5545]

Pretty cool, god water💫

[@akdisney]

conduit LB L= is left side Back cover there is LLB left side left back cover and can be same for Right

[@grandn8646]

Where did you get the filter system?

[@marksmith-ew7ir]

Great water fitting hope it saves on frozen pipes.

[@edstone2376]

Don’t forget to properly support the pec piping.

[@kathylane5934]

Glad you got good clean water. Alot of people that live near river here has iron water. They use some kind filter system with salt

[@ManieVerster]

I love you guys. You are the best. I always look forward to your next video. Let me tell you I am a city boy and know nothing of homesteading or anything you do. I just love watching you. Keep up the good work! Love from South Africa!!

[@ThierryC2373]

You should add an inline UV sterilizer after filtration for even better quality water.

[@wadeprior5203]

Hey you guys know what this evening just checking up on you guys I just got a new tablet today so this tablet's working I still learning how to use it all right have a great day guys need a good evening to me

[@charlieb9502]

You really need a silt filter before the pressure tank. Also you don't need a bypass on the filters. With that you are just allowing contaminated water into your system. What you really need is a service flush valve when you change the filters. When you put a new carbon filter you will have carbon dust in the water big time.

[@randypyatt5649]

That looks really nice awesome job guys

[@nathana8023]

Hello Marty, another awesome video. Thanks for sharing it with us. Also do you get to keep the items that you test out for that company?

[@markholmes1346]

What a great job you guys did on the water system! I’m also impressed with your knowledge and skill in getting a job done! Happy Halloween 🎃👻

[@alysiachristensen5475]

OMGosh…. I remember the previous disappointment! I’m so so happy for you guys!!! May God continue to bless all of you!!!

[@joecool9124]

LB + Elbow

[@danfitzpatrick4112]

Awesome as always guys! Cheers to the hardest working family I've seen 🙂. I look forward to your video's. You guys are such an asset to humanity! Thank you!!

[@garyobrien5090]

hopefully no smell too,waterwise

[@donovanharrison3516]

"Tell me if you see anything gross" ... "not looking for gross" ... (13:35) made me chuckle 😋Good vlog ...always smiling😎

[@juliejohnson9531]

😂

[@BrianCzapiga]

A suggestion, I wouldn’t put the filters and pressure tank in the crawl space, not for any other reason than it’s a pain to change and if the tank ever fails, it’s a huge pain to get it out of there. Usually you would want all of that stuff at ground level or at least where you can get it out of there on a flight of stairs instead of a step ladder. In the case of a catastrophic failure, it’s nice when these systems are located in the garage, in those cases they typically drain out of the garage bay.

[@mikemmikem2758]

Be careful how you're holding that horizontal pvc pipe as it's not a handle and could cause a leak if you stress the connection. Another great video. Thanks.

[@wkmac2]

Good video. Thanks for bringing us along.

[@elizabethbetsyschneider1647]

🎃🎃🎃

[@Assassin1959]

I just subscribed and I found your videos very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[@OPORTO1968]

Great job you guys,regards from Spain.

[@zombiefan852]

2x4 holding filters you should put some kind of barrier on that so it ain't touching wood to concrete just saying

[@edbarcombjr5731]

Great work. I really do suggest that you use the special silicone grease on the filter O rings. When you go to change the filters, you have a great chance of being real glad you did.

[@jaycahow4667]

I was going to suggest that as well, wait till he tries to change filters and finds them stuck.................

[@pepawspostings9231]

Omg you must have been watching me last month changing ours!

[@vonheise]

Great video, I love working with PEX, fewer if any freeze problems, and every leak we have had in our 40 years in our house has been in a brass elbow. I believe it stops water hammer also.

[@craigs5212]

Nice job, bet your are glad to have fully plumbed water now. One suggestion move the iron filter before the tank and a second sediment filter between the iron filter and the well. This will keep the sediment and iron out of the tank. You are likely going to need a larger iron filter. They are available in a larger tank like a water softener, with these there, is no filter to purchase and replace they do need to be back flushed and recharged every so often, good ones have fully automatic back flush and salt brine regeneration. The activated carbon filters are usually coconut charcoal in a block or granular (GAC) form. When replacing these filters you need to flush them to the drain for a couple minutes to wash out all the charcoal dust. Just run the water until it runs clear. Factoid: 1 gram of activated carbon has the surface area of an acre of land.

[@guytech7310]

No, becuase a clogged filter can burn up the pump.

[@randy2283]

Great video good to see y'all

[@paulmonk7820]

Cable/wire/pex or anything spooled would be much easier to handle/work with if you unroll it instead of pulling it off the side of the spool/coil.

[@Azmihidayaat]

yay new vid!

[@66bigbuds]

If you filter too much, you won't get the minerals you need.