RIGGING LANYARDS

Rigging Shrouds and Lanyards on the Trinidad

[@DrGargani]

interesting, how we all arrive at our own methods of doing this...people who have never made one of these ships cannot BEGIN to imagine the incredible patience we need to do this. Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge in making a video like this showing YOUR methodology.

[@shipsofscale]

Thank you DrGargani for watching. This was the only way I knew of at the time. I have another way of approaching this. I guess as time and experience goes forward, we learn new ways.

[@DrGargani]

nothing wrong with your way, for sure, there are so many of us out there who don't really have any contact with each other, other than maybe watching a you tube video. I know there used to be local clubs for the railroad modelers to get together and compare notes. I have been running a bass fishing forum for many years where people do get to compare techniques and such. The problem I had with bass fishermen initially was that they tend to be secretive by nature, and weren't so willing to share! LOL....

[@hosscartwright5322]

I really appreciate how you make something so intricate and complicated look so simple. Just in time as I'm approaching the rigging work on my first project. Thanks Donnie!

[@shipsofscale]

Hi Ken, you are welcome. You can see more at www.shipsofscale.com/sosforums

[@shipsofscale]

I really do appreciate all the comments. I am delighted that these small videos are helping other modelers and craftsman alike. Donnie

[@paulbusman2570]

These videos are a HUGE help. I bought a Constitution cross section many years ago and got the basic hull built but I got scared away by the process of rigging shrouds and ratlines. This was pre-internet and I had no way to figure them out. I recently took up the project again as a warmup for building The Pride Of Baltimore II. I'm right at the stage where I need to do the shrouds but when I tried one last night I got all balled up. Your videos showed me things that should make it relatively easy. Thanks.

[@shipsofscale]

Thank you Paul. I am glad it helped. Donald

[@ECCL11]

Hey Donnie, your work on these ships is amazing. I like that you've added videos to show how you do things.

[@wonderwend1]

That was extremely helpful! Even though your camera let you down with poor focusing I was still able to understand it. Thank you for sharing this video

[@billsbunts]

Thankyou very much for explaining the deadeye lanyard procedure I was doing mine all wrong Now I have a better idea on how to do it thanks to your detailed tutorial

[@johnnywhite1681]

A fantastic filming of a rigging tye off. It looks great! Thank you for taking the time to film these.

[@davidberner4726]

Hey Donnie, Thank you so much for creating this very helpful video. After 20 years of putting off buying and building my first ship model(Artesania Endeavour) I finally took the plunge and have dived in. The thing I was finding most daunting was that one day in the near future I'd have to rig it but after watching your video I no longer find it a worry but am actually looking forward to it and I don't mind admitting that I have saved this video for further reference. Thanks again mate I now feel like I have a master craftsman on my side keep up the great work. Cheers

[@shipsofscale]

David Bremner thank you for the kind words. I am very glad you found this helpful to you. Consider joining my forum at www.shipsofscale.com I would like to hear more about your build. Sounds interesting.

[@SiPabloPuede]

Donnie, I have really enjoyed your videos. I hope to share much more of this beautiful hobby. Greetings from Argentina!

[@nicholasbuls3806]

That actually helps me a lot - I just finished my first sailing (Revolutionary War schooner) as a gift for my brother. Learning a lot of lessons that amounted to "working hard not smart..." It came out pretty well but the next one on the docket is the Brig NIAGARA (my brother and I had an ancestor in that battle), with much more intricate rigging. Your methods will help me work a little smarter in this one

[@2kidsnosleep]

Thank you so much for the great demonstration. It will be invaluable for my project👍🏻😎

[@my3yorkies]

Thanks for sharing your technique. I was able to follow along and the steps you showed in tying these off were easy to understand for me. I'll use this method in the 10 gun sloop HMS Mediator I am preparing to build. These look fantastic.

[@rodbuckle4167]

Absolutely wonderful!.Thank you so much for this.I've watched it a number of times and it has transformed my expertise at rigging deadeyes and lanyards.Very much appreciated

[@shipsofscale]

Rod Buckle thank you for the kind words. Well...I am not the best actor. Needed to hire someone from Hollywood to do the voice overs. Lol.

[@MrStoney61]

Superb! Many questions I had have been answered. Thanks for posting!

[@davidpercy9926]

I am about to rig my 2nd model ship, this is a huge help. Thanks for taking the time to share.

[@shipsofscale]

Hi David, you are welcome. If you have a chance go to shipsofscale.com/sosforums/ and there are many more ship models to look at being built. Thank you for your kind comments. I am certainly not an expert. I am just like everyone else, just trying to find ways to do things.

[@Friesenmicha]

Super dieses Video. Genau da bin ich jetzt angekommen.Toll Erklärt 👍

[@davidvose2475]

I'm about to start the rigging on my first model. Really appreciate the time you've taken to show your techniques - some great hints in there, especially (for me at least) the use of the tools.

[@fucheduck]

this is my first time too. probably going to be a brain jar trying to do it with only a rough illustrated diagram on my kit's directions.

[@adrianacosta8847]

Thanks a lot for reply and for info. I bet you had a lot of fun doing it. Will check links! Thanks!

[@tezpop6480]

That sir is utterly amazing, you must have the patience of a saint to be able to grasp something so delicate. I am about to embark on my first wooden boat build from a kit, I am looking at as much as I can for tips. That ship from what I can see is beautiful. Many thanks for showing me that time is everything when it comes to creating something so wonderful. Would love to see the finished work. regards.

[@shipsofscale]

+tez pop Thank you for your comments. Much appreciated. You can see the complete build log and final model at my other site: www.shipsofscale.com/Trinidad/

[@shipsofscale]

Thank you John for your comments. I do need to make more videos and shorter ones too.

[@shipsofscale]

I really appreciate the comments. Dave, actually, I do not use any jig. As I am rigging up the Deadeye, I pull on the Shroud line and just gauge by tightness the length that I want. The Shroud line is going to give a little plus and minus in length anyway. Then when I am satisfied with the length and tightness, I will then complete the rigging of just the Deadeye only. Then I will start the process of installing the Lanyards (the line that loops through the holes of the Deadeyes.) Then I will adjust the tightness of the line to closely match the others. Accurate Deadeyes will ALL be in a single line in height and not have a bobble to them. I hope this helps. Feel free to look at the forums (shipsofscale.com/phpBB3 Donnie of SoS @ 2014

[@keithcheeseman567]

Amazingly intricate work... Looks great

[@icelandman5432]

Excellent video! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and skill!

[@shipsofscale]

You are welcome Owen. If you have a chance you can go to www.shipsofscale.com and join and be part of the community if you haven't done that already. We would love to have you.

[@dspindl1]

Beautiful work, thanks so much for showing this! Do you ever use a wire jig in the deadeye holes to keep the spacing even or do you always "eyeball" it?

[@MrStoney61]

I'm now using your method on my 1/100th Heller HMS Victory. I did have to discard the kit deadeyes (terrible) and invest in new wooden ones. Thanks again!

[@shipsofscale]

Thank you all for the kind comments. I know that I am not a movie star and certainly not an actor. It is what it is. Thanks Donnie

[@PaulKilpin]

Thank you so much, I love your work.

[@shipsofscale]

I certainly do appreciate all the positive feedback. This video was done a long time ago and I am now working on the San Felipe (Pan Art).

[@johnbrock1602]

Donnie Driskell can we the sub watch some of you working on a model.

[@jimk8592]

All this detail.... Just amazing...

[@maverick50616]

very good tutorial, I will be using this method for sure...liked and subbed

[@robertsalanon2909]

Beau travail sur les cordages !! Félicitations ...

[@guychabot5413]

I have started to build my hms and i réal y appréciâtes your vidéo

[@elharam00]

thanks a lot for the illustrated work helps a lot

[@bora54321]

Best learning video on the net. Thanks

[@modelshipbuilder9420]

Awesome tips! Watched it a few to work on mines, thank you!!

[@shipsofscale]

You are welcome. I am glad it helped.

[@robingod791]

good evening! i'm from Chechen, Russia. your works are great! are you made this ship by yourself?

[@jeanhunt]

Great stuff! Enjoyed watching you do this. I am just getting into rigging and I bought that Peterson book. Your admiral also does a great job.

[@jeremycooke5095]

Love your technique. What scale & make is this ship please.

[@florivancamachomartinez63]

It has been very helpful. thanks!

[@shipsofscale]

Thank you Sophie for the comments. This was my first large project and it was a challenge to be sure. I will try to remember to use your technique next time. Donnie

[@bobandrews705]

Donnie Driskell Informative, clear, easy to understand and very much appreciated. Thank you for taking the time. Great job!

[@shipsofscale]

Thank you Bob. I am glad that it helped you. Have you considered joining my Forum? You can go to www.shipsofscale.com/sosforums and register. I can activate your account and join the fun. Donnie

[@peaveawwii1]

Wow. What can I say. This is awesome.

[@shipsofscale]

This was my first major ship build and yes, there were and are some mistakes from lack of knowledge and experience.

[@hayleyanderson6290]

Very useful - thanks for sharing

[@VNNZTC]

Excellent video...thank you...

[@johnbrock1602]

Make some more videos just short, no editing that take too much time. Just like this one. Very enjoyable Thank You.

[@FlamingoPat]

Donnie Thank You. Needed info on doing the small detail workings of ship building and you explained perfect. Quick Question, Did you ever make a Video on planking? I have watched several and have a nice way shown how to by a British guy, but I noticed your ships sides looked perfect.

[@shipsofscale]

Hi pat and thanks for the comments. No, I never did or have made a video on planking. I wish I knew more about the subject. I guess each ship is unique in its own way, but I guess the main planking techniques are about the same. I have to struggle with this part too. If you are interested, you can follow my build log on the San Felipe - I am getting ready to plank the bottom part of the hull on this one and you can follow the steps. You can find this Build Log in two places. One being my main SOS site: shipsofscale.com/SanFelipe/SFBL01.html and the other on my forums www.shipsofscale.com/sosforums/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1020 Thanks for watching. Donnie

[@allencummins7453]

Hi Donnie were did u buy the clamp holding the stern I have been looking everywhere for them thanks for your help Allen

[@shipsofscale]

+Allen Cummins Hi Allen, thanks for viewing this tutorial. I cannot remember where I bought those clamps (if I remember) they were from Model Expo and the link is www.modelexpo-online.com/product.asp?ITEMNO=SN326SC they are sold as a 6 piece mini spring clamp set. It has been a very long time ago, but I am sure that this is where they came from. Also Micromark has them too. Their link is: www.micromark.com/2-inch-long-spring-clamps-set-of-8,7845.html I hope this helps. I also invite you to join the SoS forums at www.shipsofscale.com/phpBB3/ and register if you haven't already. If this info is not what you had in mind, let me know donnie(at)shipsofscale.com Thank you for your interest ! Donnie Driskell Owner Ships of Scale @ 2015

[@user-yn8jr4gr2m]

El modelo de conjunto? Model of a set?

[@ruthasis3168]

Me da apuro decirlo, pero las fijaciones de los aparejos de la arboladura que hace este Sr. no son marineras. Son las de un buen aficionado al modelismo, pero no las precisas de un buen marino y que son imprescindibles en un buque a vela.

[@johndouglas7344]

Hi Donnie, Thanks for these videos on fitting shrouds and lanyards i found them very usefully. I have a question though, i’m rigging HMS Victory 1/84 scale and I’m using beeswax on my shrouds. Trouble is the wax is leaving a white residue on black 0.8mm rigging line. Just wondering if i’m doing something wrong or way of stopping this happening?

[@shipsofscale]

John Douglas you are correct. It seems the beeswax doesn’t work too well w black line. I found that out working on my San Felipe. One way around this is to use polyester type thread. I know that most craft stores like hobby lobby carry a fairly broad selection. Also try amazon or google search for .8 polyester cord. The polyester will not be fuzzy. My San Felipe came with all polyester cordage. The down side is that it is hard to work with.

[@johndouglas7344]

Hi Donnie, thanks for getting back to me. I found some black beeswax on EBay and have been using it for a few days it seems a whole lot better...

[@shipsofscale]

John Douglas you are kidding. Never heard of black beeswax. I have to check that out as my San Felipe has most all black rigging. Thanks for mentioning that.

[@Astmaticherteufel]

Dankeschön 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@EastBoston]

Good job. Made it look easy. (smiles)

[@sophieswannick2193]

Very impressive. If you use a tiny drop of super glue on the end and snip it of in the middle it makes the ropes to go through the dead eyes

[@justinp.johnson3525]

Donnie, what is the maroon colored book in the background with the clear Title "Ships" Thanks in advance.

[@shipsofscale]

+Justin P. Johnson Justin, the book is The Encyclopedia of Ships by Tony Gibbons and Roger Ford ISBN: 1-57145-296-6 It is a pretty good reference to have around. It covers small snippets of info on a lot of ships (almost from the dawn of time of the Egyptians, to tall ships, steam, and up to WWI and II, and modern). Also, if you go to my page www.shipsofscale.com/start/start02.html you will see the collection of other books I own that have become helpful. Of all the books I own, Historic Ship Models by Wolfram Zu Mondfeld ISBN: 1-4027-2186-2 is far the best for a reference in building the models. thank you for your interest. Donnie [e-mail] Ships of Scale @ 2015

[@macleadg]

Thanks so much for this. What is the book you mentioned? Also, what kinds of knots are best to learn for rigging up these ships? Finally, I’d love to know how to secure the shroud lines to the mast, and how to measure out the lines so as to give enough line to work with, but without wasting any. (Sorry if I have too many questions!)

[@shipsofscale]

Hello macleadg, I apologize for the long delay. Yes, there is a lot of cover here in this topic. The book might be "Historic Ship Models" by Wolfram zu Mondfeld. I can help you further if you would contact me at [e-mail] and also register at www.shipsofscale.com - just emial me and I can help you further with your rigging questions. Donald

[@macleadg]

Donnie Driskell Your reply is a courtesy to me, no matter the time scale, and I appreciate it. I have many questions about rigging, and have read some books on the subject, but they tend to focus on the big picture, and on historical accuracy. I’m completely in line with such matters, but as a novice, I’m more stymied by the mechanics - getting lines to right tension, making exact duplicates of items that should look the same, tying/hiding knots, what type of knot to use in various situations, getting lines to be parallel & straight, how to use wax, how to tie multiple lines to the top of a mast neatly, the sequence of activities to follow when rigging, etc. I’ll get to the historical accuracy later, when I’ve acquired a few basic skills. Does the book you recommend teach such basic, concrete beginner-level skills?

[@fucheduck]

going to do some detail rigging on a Revell ship. the 400 year anniversery Mayflower. but the directions are multi-lingual and minimalist. they illustrate but make it unclear on what and where to cut the rigging line. they do give you a good supply of brown and black line. to rig a foreward mast do you cut it off when you tie it to the eyelet?(or what you call a "deadeye") or do you weave it up and back over the next one in the top(of the mast and ajacent) and go down without cutting anything. the information on my directions is unclear.

[@shipsofscale]

I will try to get more info for you. Donald

[@shipsofscale]

You can go to this site and look at post #1 shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/lanyards.8631/ as this might be an example of what you might be looking for.

[@lawrencemay8671]

What scale of ship is that and the size of the dead eyes. I have a Revell 1/96 plastic that I’m try to make more realistic

[@zygmuntjakson1247]

Korzystam z tego filmu przy budowie.Bardzo dobry.

[@adrianacosta8847]

Hello, I have a quick question. I'm looking to start building model ships and I was wondering if you can tell me where did you get this ship? I've been looking around the web looking for this ship and can't find it. Please let me know if no problem. Thanks!

[@shipsofscale]

Hello Adrian, This ship took me about 5 1/5 years to build as it is an advanced model. here are some links to where to buy the Santisima Trinidad: www.agesofsail.com www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk www.alwayshobbies.com/brands/occre-model-kits www.frontlinehobbies.com.au/ (call or email them about it) www.historicships.com/TALLSHIPS/OcCre/OcCreMenu.htm I hope this info helps. You may also write email to [e-mail]

[@timdennis2193]

Also try premier models who are based in the UK...huge choice from beginner to seriously scary advanced

[@rlabiche]

excellent video thanks your ship looks almost like the Victory

[@shipsofscale]

Thank you Ronald for the comments. Yep, sometimes they all do look very similar. Please join my Ships of Scale Forums for more info just like this from other builders at www.shipsofscale.com/sosforums/ Donnie

[@sachinagarwal7180]

dear donnie , do you make these pieces for sale ? or just as your hobby!!

[@shipsofscale]

Hello Sachin, are you referring to the individual parts and pieces or the whole ship? I usually do not sale or make any of the individual parts. However, if someone wants to buy the ship, then that would be some challenges depending on where the customer lives. This ship is large about 120 cm long and about 120 cm tall. Do you need parts and pieces made for a project?

[@shipsofscale]

If anyone wants to see the entire build log in progress, they can also go to: shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/santisima-trinidad-occre-build-log-completed-w-pics.47/ In about a few more weeks, the ship will be completed.

[@antonisantoniou8088]

Hello Donnie, the link is not working , how can I see the entire build?

[@shipsofscale]

@@antonisantoniou8088 try this link shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/santisima-trinidad-occre-build-log-completed-w-pics.47/ This is from my Ships of Scale forum. If you register, then the thumbnails will be full size images.

[@cliffedward]

Very hard to follow with both threads being dark. Get the idea though. HD would help too. Thanks for the tip.

[@shipsofscale]

You are correct. It was a little difficult to do this video under the circumstances of not too good of lighting and the color of rigging line. I am glad that you were able to get a little help from it though. Donnie You can see the full build log here: shipsofscale.com/Trinidad/index.html

[@cliffedward]

Thank you.

[@lawrencemay8671]

What size are those dead eyes

[@shipsofscale]

All of the main Lanyard Dead Eyes are 5mm. There are also a few 4mm used on the rear stays. You can view the entire Build Log on this site shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/santisima-trinidad-occre-build-log-completed-build.47/

[@wikiprananda7965]

For sale?

[@shipsofscale]

You are all welcome. Consider joining my forum at shipsofscale.com/phpBB3 and register.

[@berndlottes9940]

100-110 Guns, 2290-2164 Tons, Deadeyes lower ones: Foremast:17 ins dia // Mainmast: 17 ins dia // Mizzenmast:11 ins dia.....Deadeyes Topmast: Foremast 11ins // Mainm : 11 ins// Mizzenmast: 8 ins dia, are you sure with such fat deadeyes at your mizzenmast, the lower ones look so big they touch each other..?? hope it helps..(Data is from british Royal Navy side its not the spanish side!!!)

[@Florescence1783]

Hi

[@alancottingham564]

Why have you got odd windows?

[@shipsofscale]

I assume you are talking about the Gallery at the Stern ? Other than that, I am not sure what windows you are referring to. If so, this was a Kit by OcCre, and these are the parts that I had to work with. Thank you for your interest and comments. At the time, I did not have any other reference material to do otherwise. Kindly, Donald

[@alancottingham564]

@@shipsofscale hi Donnie,I’ve recently completed De Agostini s Victory. I say completed but I am constantly altering bits and pieces which are incorrect.l would have thought the designers of these kits would have got it right seeing as the ship is sitting there in front of the world, and be the most photographed. Keep up the good work.Regards Alan.

[@shipsofscale]

@@alancottingham564 Yes, Alan, there are a lot of problems with the kit world. I agree that you would think by now corrections would be made. I invite you to join my forum at www.shipsofscale.com You will find it a great place to make a build log and join our community.

[@spasoft]

Unfocused

[@jonathansimmonds5784]

As a rigger of tall ships who has done this for real can I suggest you do some research into rigging or 'turning in' deadeyes? Sadly you aren't doing it correctly and would find the whole process much more easy and quicker with a more professional finish if you were to do it as per the real thing. It is painful to watch you supergluing those 'flat seizings' when there's no need to use glue at all, just do a proper flat seizing! Having your knots 'on the back' or inboard as a sailor would say means you now have shrouds with the short ends all on the forward side of the shroud which isn't correct, look at a real ship or a professionally made model and you will see the shrounds all go the same way around a deadeye, anti-clock for right hand lay or clockwise for left hand laid rope/wire. This means that the short end will be up different sides on opposite sides of the vessel, an immediate indicator as to the knowledge of the maker... Get rid of the glue!

[@shipsofscale]

thank you jonathan for your input and advice. this was my first rigging attempt and was using “Historic Model Ships” book from Mondel as a guide. that was many years ago. just like anything, learning curves are here.Now, that a little more experience has passed over the years, I go back and I see there were many errors that I noticed I did not do correctly like the stays and shroud pairs.

[@shipsofscale]

I really do appreciate all the comments. I am delighted that these small videos are helping other modelers and craftsman alike. Donnie

[@williamfloyd1677]

Donnie Driskell Donnie how did you do the Rope coils on the cannons