POORLY BUILT DECK Yet Again!

[@jamese9283]

"There's no way to tighten a loose carriage bolt." You can easily grip the excess bolt past the nut with a vice-grips and tighten the nut. If the bolt is not extending past the nut, the head can be gripped with vice-grips held parallel to the bolt. If necessary, a small indention can be made on each side of the head with a screwdriver so the tips of the pliers can get a grip. The vice grip hold on the bolt does not need to be as strong as the torque to tighten it, as the bolt will stop spinning as soon as the head presses against the wood. That double beam would be good support if more blocking was placed to bind the two sides together. My state allows beams built like this.

[@bisonic1]

Very hard to do what you say if there's any rust on the bolt.

[@Stan_in_Shelton_WA]

@@bisonic1 But the bolt is galvanized.

[@poopywelder]

@@Stan_in_Shelton_WAgalvanized corrodes as well 🫡

[@hankplays4563]

IMPACT GUN WILL TIGHTEN RIGHT UP THAT CARRIAGE BOLT!! i notch my 6x6's set my beam or band board into the notch drill the set and carriage bolt all the time HAVE NEVER FAILED AN INSPECTION!!!

[@driveman6490]

Just run the ceiling fan on high 24/7. The upward lift generated will hold the deck up for the next thousand years!

[@hughezzell10000]

I think I could show calculations to disprove just about everything you're complaining about - except the deck rail posts. I don't like their attachment, use a thru-bolt (carriage type). They could have filled all the holes in the hangers as well. Easy fixes. That the rim board on the end of the ledger covers the leger, that's normal. I use double 2x's on the rim board all the time with the outside board covering the attachments for asthetics. The double rim board also stiffens the railing post attachments. The carriage bolt complaint is a non-starter, I spec carriage bolts often. I could not account for code differences between your municipality and mine, but the double board beam is perfectly acceptable to me as an engineer as long as it calculated out. What's the difference between a 4x10 and two 2x10's? Nothing. Were I the homeowner, I'd invest a little in an engineer's opinion before accepting any of these "problems" from a home inspector. I really hate "inspectors" with little training in engineering, justifying their jobs.

[@crisprtalk6963]

Do you have a video showing a properly built deck?

[@D...M...A...]

nope

[@someoneelse4811]

Yes, one of his first and most popular shorts is a good deck. He's also made some video tutorials on building a proper deck.

[@Meme-zc4cw]

Good info on the carriage bolt. I have used them before but didn't think about the wood softening. Now, KZbin experts don't start blowing me up for this. It was on my own deck and I am admittedly learning. 😂

[@evanhughes3027]

I disagree on the carriage bolt assessment. It will keep the nails from withdrawing and the nails will provide shear strength. They will need to be tightened in a year, but no biggie.

[@driveman6490]

​@@evanhughes3027 Until the wood splits, then you got a biggie.

[@WES_5150]

What you should do with these videos is document the entire process through resolution with the builder, the deck builder, the county, etc. and report what has gone on to make it right in the end.

[@garystielow232]

One of those balusters is also "end-grain" nailed (or screwed) into the end of the double rim joist. Those things can never seem to stand up to the code required 250lb lateral load requirement, but it probably doesn't stand a chance with the end-grain nailing into a 2x10. Yikes!

[@pcatful]

Yes the rim joist can twist, even when it is connected to joists or blocking perpendicularly. Nails and screws can only hold weather-beaten wood so much. Rail bracing requires hardware or design to create a strong positive resistance.

[@pcatful]

Don't agree with your analysis on the landing, but, yes it was done wrong. I don't believe that cantilevered part is sagging down. The landing posts either were pushed up by soil or it wasn't built level. They could have easily put the landing joists on the main beam instead of that sloppy attachment, and the main beam and posts would handle it fine.

[@billgateskilledmyuncle23]

Water dripping down on ceiling fans. Nice!

[@az55544]

At what point does the owner have them come back and remove the deck and get their money back? Why would they want to invest thousands in bandaids?

[@pcatful]

Up to 10 years you can bring a case against a contractor in our state. YMMV. That implies there was a proper contract. If there is any sort of mediation, you probably have to look at letting them fix it first. Don't bother getting the city involved if you didn't get a permit.

[@jimnora1705]

Bet it was the lowest bid. You get what you pay for

[@bbslabaugh]

​@@jimnora1705yeah. It doesn't look too bad to me. That Deck could last another 50 Years. But hey! Whaddo I know? I'm just a humble Carpenter.

[@evanhughes3027]

Deck screws in joist hangers....they make structural screws for that. Also, you look a little like Alexander Volcanovski.

[@nathangardner772]

I always put a beam on top of a post with some kind of Simpson piece. Don’t do the notch.

[@alb2620]

Wow, what a piece of junk. What is typical when a deck is this bad? Does the homeowner hire a different company to come fix? Obviously the guys they originally contracted with aren't up to the job of making this right.

[@robertmeredith3940]

BS on the carriage bolt complaint and the ability of cantilevers to carry more load (lag screw & strap them together so they can not pull apart). Any carriage bolt with protruding threads can be gripped by vice grips for tightening, but why would it loosen anyhow. But joist hangers should certainly be filled with approved nails

[@rigidinspections]

You ever heard of DCA6?

[@BooktownBoy]

The people in the comments complaining about the inspector probably need to get back on their horses and head to camp, coz Tonto has some Bacon and Beans waiting for um..

[@jvillain9946]

Whats the problem?

[@7779-c3m]

Go back to sleep

[@jvillain9946]

@7779-c3m what's my sleep habits have to do with this finely crafted deck?

[@leggysoft]

For that cantilever it'd require reverse hangers but nope that'd be way too clever. That "beam" style looks like an AI confused a wood pergola.

[@billgateskilledmyuncle23]

It's like a good looking deck that is put together wrong. Just another reason never to own one.

[@rudolphguarnacci197]

It's like a horror movie. I can't look.

[@MostlyPosative-nj5ex]

It would be nice if you explained the proper way to do things in more detail when you’re showing the improper techniques.

[@nick56677]

This is what happens whennu hire the local drunk, and facebook carpenters.

[@WES_5150]

Forget decks.... if you buy new construction for years now, you're crazy. Good luck with that.

[@chrisperrien7055]

You could prolly buy some drugs from those builders.

[@bbslabaugh]

As a Carpenter myself, I have TWO responses to this Video. EVERY Inspector should work Two Years as a Carpenter's Apprentice. Secondly, if you lay this Bull Shit on me on my job I'll file Lawsuit on you.

[@paultrauzzi5360]

Is this guy a comedian? Carriage bolts are a requirement. The stairs are very fine attached to the cantilever. Yes there are many other issues. NO old decks had strapping.

[@reichpanzer2418]

I agree with you. Many of the "defects" he points out are perfectly fine including the way the stair landing is attached to the cantilever portion of the deck. The beam boards being separated and carriage bolts are fine as well.

[@paultrauzzi5360]

@@reichpanzer2418 I have a feeling many new products for "safety" or improvements have been created by manufacturers not engineers. There are definitely better building practices but all of a sudden everything our grandfathers did, that is still in use, is bad.

[@Duetmaster2]

I agree with you on the carriage bolts. I have sen tons of pole barns with roofs supported exactly that way and it's never a problem and I believe that roof is way more load than you're ever going to see on that deck. I would have to disagree on the landing/stairs, however. That seems to have been added later because why on earth would it be built that way if it wasn't? I would think a better method would be to have removed the original rim joist and run the joists for the landing back onto the beam and sister them to the original joists with through-bolts. The new rim joist at the edge of the stairs should have been doubled. This would completely eliminate the misalignment between the original deck and the new landing.

[@williameason1194]

There's no roof over the deck. It's just going to rot and fall down.

[@pcatful]

Not if made with the proper wood species. Decks are made all over the country. In wet humid rainy areas, and places with snow there's more of a challenge. Decks require maintenance and, yes, replacing over time. It's not going to "just rot and fall down" if it has no roof. It might if it is built wrong.

[@fred1690]

there's nothing wrong with that deck. what are you talking about.

[@michaelstramm2366]

Well, i dont know, but to my taste those Decks are shitty not only in construction but allready at the planing Level. Those Decks steal the light from the underlaying Etages. It looks to me like , those owners just have the idea of having a deck weather it fits to the house or the suroundings or absolutely not. Next Point is, if you want Quality ,well it comes at a price and if you cant afford this price you are better without any Deck then with one that darkens the lower Portion of the house nor the danger of having incidents while the thing was technically just unsafe. My two cents in this.

[@pcatful]

I think the shading of the lower portion is not so important. Maybe the design of the house could have had it both ways. Full enjoyment of the main story is more important. Most decks are too big. Once you have a space for a dining table and few chairs in a sitting area, you shouldn't waste your space and money with endless deck (unless it is some vacation home with lakeside views for the extended family). Look how big this deck is and it's empty (could be because it's off season or the deck is too dangerous?).