Rigol MSO7000 Unboxing & First Impressions

Unboxing & first Impressions of the new Rigol MSO7000 mixed signal oscilloscope.
Note, this is NOT a review, it is a single take, unedited, unprepared unboxing and just dicking around with it. If you do not like this style of video do not watch it.
www.rigolna.com/products/digi...
Forum: www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear...

[@TheDefpom]

I think that the need to buy licences for serial decoding is a joke, years ago when it was a rare thing, sure, but these days it should be considered a required (and standard) function, just like the ability to see a waveform.

[@EEVblog2]

Siglent have standard serial decoding on their low end model.

[@danmoos3635]

Probably hackable, but do the sorts of buyers in this price point even do that?

[@jasonmhite]

It gets worse, UART and i2c/SPI are $900 *each*. Damn that's steep. I might have been willing to cut them some slack if it was like $300 for both, but that's pretty hard to swallow.

[@TheDefpom]

At those prices it would be better to buy a 2nd scope which offers those features built in (like Siglent), and not bother to upgrade the Rigol.

[@Justsquareenough]

specially considering the 7054 with digital channels is $11,299!

[@tomgeorge3726]

Logic probe adapter so you can do a quick connect/disconnect and leave your probes connected to the circuit if you need to do work on it!!!

[@EEVblog2]

Yep, that would be an advantage

[@kathyquinlan5922]

Also to protect the plug on the wiring harness back to the scope, instead of plugging and unplugging multiple times wearing out the harness plug you wear out the adapter which can be replaced cheaper than the harness ;)

[@oswaldjh]

The tilting feet at the back make a lot of sense with tall thin scopes. When you tilt the screen back it is better to have more support from the back of the case for stability when you press the upper buttons.

[@Fake_Blood]

I think the digital signal cable “adapter” thing is just there because it has the colours on it. Also, I’d wish they’d use those high refresh rate screens, 144Hz refresh would be amazing on a scope.

[@GregM]

That boot up progress bar reminded me of a Mac computer booting up pre SSD days

[@JorgeAmodio]

I just got one of those and I'm loving it, UI is much better than Tek & Keysight, The USB ports work even with a wireless mouse! There is a bundle for all the serial decode functions and extras

[@expertmax32]

I like that almost every knob is pushable. I give them that though the UI could use a little polishing.

[@Okurka.]

Even the screen is pushable.

[@Jedda73]

When Rigol prints Status: Waitting, they really mean it with that extra t

[@MeiklesAndDimes]

Can’t wait for the teardown!

[@redtails]

man what is it with oscilloscopes and poor displays? If you're spending 12k on a scope, there better be anti anti-glare mat oled display on it

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

So the main jog wheel for the UI is a tiny knob less than 10mm diameter. Chances are the user will need to use it more than most other buttons. 50mm should be minimum diameter.

[@petersage5157]

Your rant about the blue knobs reminds me of the Eiffel 65 song "Blue (Da Ba Dee)". Thanks for that!

[@regmigrant]

for $12k will they also spell SPI 'Threhold' correctly? (29:30) I know it doesn't matter in the grand scheme but if you can't run a spell checker what other QC elements are missed?

[@AttitudeGames]

Those RP3500A are also shipped with the DS4000 Scopes, I have 4 + 1 (replacement) here.

[@ales_xy]

I think 4000 series is the best bang per bucks in its class (especially if you ""buy"" the sw upgrades ;-) I have DS4024 upgraded to 500 MHz and DG4160 and both are very good pieces of equipment for the money.

[@AttitudeGames]

Well mine is the DS4014 (4 input 100MHz) due to that was all I required for all my projects, I did way up the prices for the features and yes the DS4014 was the best solution for me. I did buy the SPI Software Option (I know silly me) and then brought the "rest" ;) so now I have a 500MHz 4 input Digital Scope. As for the Gens or Analysers, I have still yet to got those. Also don't you mean a DG4162 i.e. (160MHz 2Ch 500MSa/s)

[@ales_xy]

I buyed 200MHz model instead of your 100MHz, because there wasn't 500MHz bw upgrade officially available for 100MHz model, so I was worried if the "unofficial" would work properly. Apparently, there's no issue, so I spent more money than I needed, too :-) There's much worse situation with arb wave gen, because they aren't calibrated above their official bw limit. It's doable, but you must calibrate the instrument after unlocking, otherwise it's useless. And I wasn't sure I will be able to do it properly with my current equipment, so I took the 160MHz model.

[@AttitudeGames]

Yeah, well where I only really needed a maximum bandwidth of 100MHz at the time I went for that model, it was to last me about 5 to 10 years (already had it for 5 years now), as for the "unofficial" bw upgrade yeah it works, I fed a ~418MHz Osc into it and I could see a very clean signal and was still able to zoom in to 1ns/div fine.

[@HeribertoNieves]

im new in this area and correct me if im wrong but at this price point i too would be looking for small details like uniform lights and lcd view angles, still im half through the video lets see

[@stevebollinger3463]

Didn’t HP used to have the blocks on the end of the digital probes? They had the termination in them. That way if you built the termination into your board you could remove the terminator and plug it right into your board for minimal signal disturbance. No added loading. Also having termination on your socket when the analyzer wasn’t attached meant less emitted EMI so you could maybe pass FCC without having to redesign the board to eliminate probe stubs.

[@johnsenchak936]

It would have been nice seeing you connect that unit to a HD monitor through the HDMI port

[@markusofficial9016]

I'm wondering, why would you buy this over a Keysight 3000T series or one of the new R&S, unless you really need the huge memory depth? Yes, they are little more expensive but it's not that much, and seem quite a bit more sophisticated.

[@alfoncejean8826]

this is 2018 vga is definitely going out.

[@daryltownsend]

Sexy scope :) However I agree that the UI could do with tidying up.

[@simontay4851]

Well its a Chinese scope. They are very bad at designing UIs.

[@ozasl]

Since you have the MSO7000 now and if you consider giving away the Rigol 1054 of yours, i am more than happy to get it! As an electronic hobbiest, i could not save enough to buy one until now and i do not want to buy an Hantek or low model Siglent even though they are affordable. I hope you consider. I am following the vlog and enjoying the content since 2014 and it helped me alot both during my career and as an hobbiest... I am happy to pay for shipping to Germany...

[@uzaiyaro]

I haven't owned a scope yet, I'm currently saving for my first one. I'm wondering if this would be a good scope I won't outgrow for a little while. Also, that first bootup time may or may not only happen once. Some devices are set up so that the OS will finish installing on the first time it boots. Might be interesting to see if it does that again or not.

[@EEVblog2]

You normally wouldn't spend this much on your first scope.

[@uzaiyaro]

EEVblog2 yeah, you're probably right. I made a little bit of a post in my other comment you replied to, the PCIe one. I simply want something to get me started, but I know I want the MSO bits too, because with what I'm interested in - embedded systems, I'll be playing with that stuff pretty much from the word go. Cheers.

[@scavengerjoe1012]

I love single takes!

[@kylejacobs1247]

Why do you need 3 USB ports on the front?

[@TheDefpom]

Very nice, I wonder if I can get them to send me one, I doubt it though, Rigol never even replied to my email a few months ago.

[@alter7979]

email me [e-mail] and we can chat about a unit

[@WillArtie]

No those G's are different - serif and san-serif. No way I'd get this with different G's! Thanks for the walk-through DJ.

[@EEVblog2]

Crazy!

[@ales_xy]

Typically Chinese. They love obscure fonts with big serifs.

[@tmilker]

I like this style video, just need a lavalier mic to let you move around freely and keep the audio quality high.

[@EEVblog2]

Lavalier mics aren't as magic as you think they are

[@jimhough6233]

Thank you, Jad!

[@rownadoherty]

Why use sans-serif font for everything on the scope front panel, and then use dicky looking serifed "G1" and "G2" next to the generator outputs? It's inconsistencies like that which give it a "budget look".

[@jonalice1]

According to Rigol, DS700-BND: "7000 Series Function and application bundle option including PWR, AWG, and all Serial Decode options. AWG option only works on MSO models." So the Serial Decode should function on a DS7k, you don't need the MSO7k.

[@joopterwijn]

License: 2132min .... is it time bound?

[@Tool-Meister]

Rigol seems to have free updates nearly all the time. Free Protocol analysis, Waveform Generator and Power Analysis are included at this writing. Then there’s always the hacking route as Dave mentioned. I went for the MSO5074 and hacked to max everything available. Everything including 350 MHz, max memory, all features, LA probes, etc. for under a $1000 USD!

[@za_ozero]

Yeah, to pay for a signal gen unlock only to know it cant go above 2.5v of positive voltage. Like most common logic voltage is 3.3 and 5 and it can even do enough high square. I am not paying.

[@xtrariceplease]

It's only a matter of time until we see a scope with 4K OLED display

[@spacejaga]

Jad and curved!!! It's shit if it's not curved! Also has to run on Android and support games, GPS, g sensor, compass and selfie camera no less than 5 megs with beauty filters!!!! Girl engineers matter!!!

[@sugarbooty]

Space JAGA, you should make a kickstarter

[@rodolfomaduro8157]

We need one with glasses to see 3d signals.

[@tuttocrafting]

Guys does you know a good cheap scope with serial deciding? I'm a hobbyist so I don't need lot's of stuff. I mostly work with digital stuff. Right now I have a cheap DSO kit from China but the single channel is a huge problem!

[@EEVblog]

Siglent have free serial decoders. But best to get a cheap USB logic analyser for that.

[@tuttocrafting]

EEVblog Thanks Dave. My idea was to buy a rigol DS1054Z but I'm not sure if that gear is obsolete and for the price of 420 EUR I can find something better! I have a cheap clone of the logic 8 from saleae. But it tricky to use! I'm working on a quite big project and what I learned is thanks to your videos! hackaday.io/project/159654-fcthermostat-another-overengeneered-iot-device

[@printxii]

Vertical lettering would would drive me up the wall, 2 grand for a scope and looks like a 10 grader did the labeling. It's all over the place.

[@simontay4851]

More like 12+ grand.

[@EEVblog2]

Yep, it's a mess. The actual layout is ok. I think even I could better, and I suck at such things

[@Okurka.]

What drives me up the wall is that you edited your post and still left "would would" in your sentence.

[@printxii]

Okurka , Ok Snowflake

[@OmarMekkawy]

Rigol has a real problem with the rotary encoders in its scopes. I suffered from them and I will not try buying anything from them again. I sent them a mail but no responses !!

[@slap_my_hand]

I really don't get why low end scopes can't have a sample memory this big. 16 bit DDR3 is really cheap and more than fast enough for 1Gsa/s.

[@frankhovis]

Development time, DDR3 is still a "new" thing as far as scope development goes.

[@slap_my_hand]

Even low end FPGAs have DDR3 controllers these days, and both altera and xilinx have tools that do most of the development work automatically. All the engineers have to do is to enter the timing information and hook up the generated interface to the rest of their design.

[@Afterbytes]

"Don't turn it on, take it apaaaht" dropped for this second EEVblog channel?

[@alfoncejean8826]

I'm not into the professional licence system, are those licence barely valid for 48h of use? what king of crap is that?

[@ales_xy]

they are demo licenses (btw. it's possible to get "unofficial" licences for some Rigol devices)

[@mikesradiorepair]

And only $11,299 for the 500MHz version you have there. Gulp....

[@simontay4851]

Yeah _"only"_ 12,299. That's not much. NOT!

[@rocketman221projects]

Plus another $1,999 for the serial decode and waveform generator and $1,399 to unlock the full memory. Somebody need to figure out how to hack all of the software options.

[@EEVblog2]

What are comparable 500MHz scopes?

[@mikesradiorepair]

EEVblog2 I'm not trying to say it's not a good scope for the price. It's just high for the average person. I would love to be able to afford it for use on my bench. I could really use a higher frequency scope on my bench when working on VHF transceivers. Going to be a while. I have a few years to save up for a new Rohde & Schwartz communications test set ($40K). After that I'll be looking for something like this.

[@Mtaalas]

If you're a professional, it's a tool that you use to make money so it'll pay itself back in time. And even smaller company with even a bit of revenue will be able to purchase this without worrying. So it's not expensive unless you're a hobbyist that doesn't make money from electronics... and then you don't really even need it most probably.

[@metaluna72]

"It would be nice to have the date for documentation" - It got it on the taken screenshots.

[@waterup380]

why do people get mad if this product only has four channels. i dom't get it or understand that

Almost as good as my DSO NANO v2 :D :D

[@JAKOB1977]

I likely missed it, but did you check the update rate? is it 500K peak in native clothinh As its becomming more and more a problem, these specs on scopes waveform update rate. and specially Rigol, they will push inflated specs, that simply are not the case, unless your in some special handicapped mode where 90% of the feaures are removed.. Like we see on their latest gens.. 500K on DHO800&900, 1million on DHO1000 series and 1.5mio on DHO4000 series, but in reality the peak in ideal timebase are more like 25 to 30k for DHOxxx and around 50k for DHO1000 and perhaps the same around 50k on DHO4000.. and they will not inform you in the sale specs.. its all tainted with these inflated numbers..

[@rwils6333]

Now I want one.

[@scottwolf9914]

Ext trigger located in the back and there's NO 10 MHZ external reference input? Seriously? No 10 MHZ input? That doesn't make sense. Even my DS4000 has ext ref in.

[@avejst]

Wow Thanks for sharing :-)

[@CornishMiner]

Great features, but that front panel looks like a toy compared to the Tek you put up in front of it.

[@ales_xy]

or gaming keyboard - cluttered with supposedly-cool graphics.

[@electronicsandradio3945]

Has anyone actually bought one of these or the 5000?

[@felenov]

I think the RTB2004 is quite a bit bigger than this thing

[@ItslennyDe]

The options are only licensed for 30h?

[@alter7979]

they are trials that come with the unit

[@xtasy2k7]

Yay! First comment ! Hi Dave !

[@AnthonyShuker]

The more inches, the better!

[@uzaiyaro]

I noticed that the MSO output is a PCI Express slot. Nice! Might have some hacabilkty there.

[@EEVblog2]

Oh, I missed that.

[@uzaiyaro]

EEVblog2 it's easy to miss, I just notice crap like this for some reason. It'll be interesting if it actually talks PCI Express or if they just borrowed the socket. You should be able to find this out upon teardown - you can poke around for power or maybe more definitively, a clock signal, while looking at the pinout (this'll be PCIe x1 by the looks?), or just see if there are any PCIe controllers or some form of traffic warden like there tends to be. Even ARM chips nowadays are being given PCI Express lanes. Useful for high speed storage ala SATA Express or NVM Express for flash, useful for camera interfaces, everything really. Its just a super easy, super cheap way to do very high speed general IO and data shuffling. Embedded devices are getting progressively more integrated like this. The iPhone uses an embedded form of displayport for its LCD, and usws NVM Express for storage, as an example. While I've got your attention, I've never owned a scope, just getting into electronics. I know I want to save for a good scope, and I want MSO functionality as well. I'd like something I won't outgrow for a little while. I really like the look of the Rhode & Schwarz (sp?), I just like the finish on them. The UI looks super polished. I just notice and appreciate that stuff. But I won't ignore these Chinese guys like rigol siglent etc if there's value to be had. As you can see I'm a bit of an embedded geek. So itd make sense for me to have a scope that will let me poke about with this sort of stuff. I'm also a big car guy so having g CANBUS, LIN, flexray (which is a higher speed bus Germans use), and ALDL (General motors. Used on commodores and it's basically RS-232 with different signalling voltages, that's it. You can plug into most commodores with an entirely passive cable if you have a serial socket on your computer). But I'll stop rambling, sorry! I know you probably get this question all the goddamn time but what would you recommend? I might say hi on the forum too, been meaning to do that for a while. Cheers, from Brissy!

[@uzaiyaro]

Pardon the lyttany of typos. Evil, evil, evil android keyboards.

[@Okurka.]

10/10 they just borrowed the socket out of cheapness.

[@AndreyK415]

That thing you're playing with costs $11,000, the starting 100MHz version non-MSO costs $2700.

[@EEVblog]

That's what I said.

[@davidporowski9512]

Like & Subscribe Awesome Intro / Sweet acquisition assumes with the price that it has good memory depth & multicolor, too Thanx for sharing; looking forward to a thorough review, at your pleasure. Peace.

[@davidporowski9512]

Wonder if it came with HPIB interface? Thanx USB stick probably needs to be formatted (FS type?)

[@radarmusen]

Rigol likes fonts!. :-)

[@TheDigitalAura]

UI looks a bit busy to me.

[@EEVblog]

I don't mind the on-screen layout, or the control layout.

[@ZylonFPV]

That’s not an unboxing, it started out of the box 🙂

[@JustinDavidow]

@2:09: "DO NOT EAT" The quotes mean you should clearly eat it.

[@proluxelectronics7419]

What the Hell is a lifespan of a scope these days....???,,, The same as a mobile phone !!!!

[@EEVblog2]

Not at Keysight, their current mainstream scope architecture came out in 2009.

[@proluxelectronics7419]

Ah, So like an iPhone (2007), need one every couple of years.

[@frankbuss]

No, it is different than a smartphone. If you have a 10 year old smartphone, modern apps you want might not work on it, or even the installed apps might stop working. But if you have a 10 year old oscilloscope, it might be all you need for your daily work, so no reason to buy a new one. I bought an Agilent DSO-X 3012A, 7 years ago, and I don't miss anything, so I guess I will still use it for the next 7 years.

[@firasgh871]

I have now leader 20MHZ It serves me .Maybe he is over 25 years old

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

firas gh But will they cut off the ability to buy license keys, spare parts etc. in 24 months like consumer companies, that's the question, not if old school scopes were built to last.

[@killymxi]

Those G's are in the genuine Chinglish font.

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

HDMI out ! Nice. Good for the visually impaired electronics hobbyist !

[@DarkFire515]

Nothing wrong with the boot up speed. Gives you time to prod all the on buttons in the lab then go & grab a coffee. Once the go juice is ready everything is booted up & good to go! Obviously nobody should be drinking coffee in a lab... Ehm.

[@illustriouschin]

They sent one of these with all of the optional addons to me in the mail but I had to send it to my favorite Twitch streamer as I'm not a reviewer.

[@spacejaga]

Licenses in minutes :DDDD and people complain about EA games..... Here you buy time use of hardware which you already bought :DDDDDDD what a joke.......

[@mikesradiorepair]

Space JAGA The timer is the "trial time" timer. You get to test drive advanced features on Rigol equipment with the trial license.

[@spacejaga]

MikesRadioRepair BUT THE HARDWARE IS THERE?!?!?! Like you buy a car and get to test it at double the power and half the fuel consumption but if you don't pay for license it cuts back on power and rises fuel consumption. Totally makes sense.....

[@mikesradiorepair]

Space JAGA That's the way most test equipment from most manufacturers is. License enabled options.

[@station240]

2133m = 35.5 hours Hahaha some trial period, I'd almost bet money no one could actually do an in depth review of all the features with that short of a trial.

[@alfoncejean8826]

station240 probably. On the bright side I gess someone is going to come out with a "workaround" or already has.

[@jimhough6233]

Price point since point!

[@movax20h]

Seriously. UART/RSxxx/SPI/I2C/I2S should come standard. Even CAN should be standard. Other stuff I can understand if stuff like 10TEthernet, LIN, and some other esoteric industry specific protocols as addons (

[@metaluna72]

Nowadays it´s have been a "Standard" to pay extra for things your scope have already on board, LeCroy, R&S, Tektronix, Keysight….everyone does it. It feels like you have to pay ransom money… Very annoying : You bought your scope, perhaps with extra Bucks to get ONE Option - And a few times later your Dealer starts a "Buy it and get ALL the Options for FREE" Campaign.... :-( Thats the reason why I don´t have any Problems using hacks….

[@p_mouse8676]

Glossy screen 😥😫😫👎 Especially with touch screen = fingerprints fest.

[@FesixGermany]

Glossy screen is a no-go for me.

[@BradAckerman]

A matte screen protector would noticeably reduce the glare; I had one on a 2013 rMBP and it made the screen usable. (Pity about Apple's keyboards, though.)

[@jimhough6233]

License for a standard protocol after I've paid 12000? FAIL FAIL FAIL...

[@sparkdoctor5773]

UK pricing for those that are interested www.rigol-uk.co.uk/Rigol-MSO7054-Mixed-Signal-Oscilloscope-p/mso7054.htm

[@xjet]

Shiny screen -- ugh!

[@EEVblog]

Yeah, was a bit ugh

[@samchan5251]

Way out of my scope.

[@willynebula6193]

Why don't they make the bloody key pad bigger like seriously all that screen and they make the keypad tiny!

[@EEVblog2]

I thought it was a good size. I've seen much smaller

[@willynebula6193]

Fair enough dave it looked small, but i am looking at a video of a display on a display :/ my thought was if the pad was a bit bigger then you could probably use it a lot quicker. Thanks for replying

[@jfrede1976]

don't turn it on take it apart

[@oOMonkeyMagicOo]

The hardware and memory etc is already built and the cost of such including development is included in the initial purchase price. But you cant access these features without purchasing additional licenses. This gouging really needs to stop. When you purchase the hardware the full features of that hardware should be available. I could understand if there was a limited memory and you had to buy an additional card. Or you had to buy a physical card or plug in module for the IC2 etc; Paying extra to use the hardware you have already purchased is a scam and about time that this scam was shunned. I wonder if they have a license to quick boot it.

[@Antiath]

We should be happy that those features are still not a subscription thing with monthly or yearly fees.

[@slap_my_hand]

Scope manufacturers probably don't make any profit from the scope itself. They get their money from big companies buying the whole license package.

[@oOMonkeyMagicOo]

They would like you to believe this, but of course they make profit from the scope price point. The Licenses are just gravy.

[@jimhough6233]

Shiny ads display is a FAIL! That is a deal breaker right out of the box!

[@kefler187]

I preface everything said in this post with IN MY OPINION. All oscilloscopes are extremely under powered for what they do. Let's say you buy an xxMHz 2GSa/s scope, the SoC that's running the sampling needs enough horsepower to process 2 billion samples per second which means you would need an SoC running around 2GHz(maybe half depending on the SoC instruction set layout?) to process all that data and only that data. You would then need head room to to deposit the relevant information into ram or vram somewhere for another SoC to display on the screen. You would also need additional headroom on the same SoC that handles sampling for all the ISR's that would be required to handle the different inputs in a fast enough manner that you don't get the crappy 3-15fps display like you see in the video because the sampling SoC can't deposit the information often enough for it to be displayed on screen This problem only gets worse as you move up to faster and faster scopes. Also, that scope claims 10GSa/s on a single channel which I highly doubt it can actually do correctly. I'm assuming it has 4x 2.5GSa/s ADC's which are fed phase shifted clocks to achieve the interleaving required to get 10GSa/s effective. I'd be curious to see if they actually phase shifted all the clock signals so that all 4 ADC's are sampling the input at completely different times; I suspect they aren't. The 100,000 waveforms/sec is a total gimmick. A wave form is just plotted point over time of a set of measurements. This means wave forms are constructed from a data set of points. You only need to generate and display 60 wave forms every second because of screen refresh, and you only need ONE wave form once triggered to display on screen. Generating 100,000 wave forms on the fly is meaningless and is a waste of computing power that could be used to do something else *cough* something higher than 3-15fps on the display would be nice :P Someone please correct me if I'm working on the wrong assumption/s

[@TheDefpom]

Oooh

[@ElectroMac74]

Rigol Performance and FFT are Garbage, i sold my dz1054z for that, Keysight is the way to go

[@alter7979]

not on this unit.. its got amazong fft performance

[@danmoos3635]

Love all the inevitable "I wish I could afford a scope" thinly veiled attempts at a freebie. Everytime...

[@greenvm]

For this much money they could have thrown in an ssd

[@6Diego1Diego9]

awww yeah flippy feet

[@iamdarkyoshi]

Fucks sake, gimme IPS screens on stuff like this! Ban TN!

[@strangersound]

What clown signed off on that glossy screen? Probably the same clown that signed off on the goofy bordering around the controls. This is a work tool, not a fashion show, you clowns. :)

[@ghydda]

@7:34 offended. I like Hello Kitty. Unsubscribed! (gonna re-subscribe in 5 minutes)

[@jimhough6233]

Shmice

[@danielaustin7643]

a silly scope

[@micaiaskauss]

Dave, I love your videos, but PLEASE stop making snappy mouth sounds all the time, I literally had to stop watching your videos for years because of it. I'm really not trying to be a jerk, please.

[@jimhough6233]

If Rigol sent me a free one, I'd sell it just because of the display. You'd have to look at it at all angles just to see anything.

[@AlainHubert]

$12K for that (500MHz) sluggish, ugly, toy-like appearance, too reflective touch screen, sillyscope ? No thanks. I'll keep my unlocked (100MHz) DS1054Z for now.

[@Spector_NS5_RD]

Thank you, Dave. I will send you my address so you can send me this scope.

[@fjb5894]

I made it to 16 minutes and couldn’t take any more negativity...you sure complain a lot!

[@jimhough6233]

Agree with smh. Just put a $10 ddr3 chip in the drugging board and charge me $10 more!

[@WacKEDmaN]

the hdmi out has to be a bit of wankery! if you cant read that huge 10in screen youre in the wrong profession!...that said..that screen is a bit too reflective..wack a sceen protector on it..might take a bit of reflection out of it ...and save the screen being damaged edit: that 10in screen should be able to do 720p no problems..i have a cheap (pendo) 10in tablet with res of 1280x800..and the mini hdmi can pump out full HD 1080p..the hdmi out on the rigol is a bit lame...they probably want a licence to do 1080p! LOL edit2: is that blue shading on the panel blue blacklight? or is it actual shading on the panel?

[@EEVblog2]

WacKEDmaN - Not at all wankery. I've used external screen many times over the years, handy if you have to view the screen from across the lab, put in a more convenient location, or screen capture it.

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

EEVblog2 Also many video recording systems now take HDMI input, so you can record the screen for documentation (or KZbin in Dave's case).

[@AnatoFIN]

I don’t get it! Over $2k and you get worse display and less memory than in $200 tablet. Why not 4-8GB and full HD. Would cost less than $200 more.

[@veegee24]

Rigol has the ugliest industrial design I have ever seen in my life. I couldn't come up with something like that if I tried...