He was charged for a new turbo but the fault still exists!! Range Rover Sport

Fault codes...
P2101-77 throttle actuator commanded position not reachable
P0234-77 Turbo Overboost Condition
P2463-00 DPF Diesel Particulate Filter Soot Accumulation
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[@neildean7515]

Sad how hes been treated. But, this guy will soon realise that you are a reliable & Honest mechanic and he will be back.. great job jimmy

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

Mind boggling, the level of incompetence of some auto shops. Great job, Jimmy!

[@drostly3220]

That is basically my car.. You helped me a lot.. This is an awesome car.. The 3.0 liter is so efficient and smooth.. I take people who have owned diesels their whole life and I jump o the throttle and they can't believe how quick it is.. Say it's witchcraft... The ride is smooth, its good off road, and the best snow and ice 4x4 performance I have ever had.. Leather is top quality.. The computer seems like it was programed to try and force you into the dealership as much as possible but getting a reader and subscribing to this channel has helped us navigate codes and save $1000's... Thanks

[@khalidacosta7133]

It's the Ford / PSA engine in them... surprised the throttle body costs so much!

[@drostly3220]

@@khalidacosta7133 I was under the impression it was the Peugeot... Very efficient t but the cam lobs are so close that the cam can snap under high torque.. Otherwise. efficient..

[@khalidacosta7133]

@@drostly3220 Crank* It was never designed for Range Rovers. It was designed for FWD transverse applications in a 1.8t car. Then you get a 2.5t+ RR, probably towing something and obvs RR driver mentality (floor it everywhere), placing high stress onto the crank which it wasn't designed for. I would say switch to 5W40 high quality engine oil which will help under pressure.

[@drostly3220]

@@khalidacosta7133 I switched to Rotella T6 5w40 right away..Add Bestline diamond lube... gets combined MPG of 30 with no programing.. Thanks for the input..

[@khalidacosta7133]

@@drostly3220 Really wouldn't put that snake oil in. Even in the blurb it states the nanodiamonds are 4-6nm in size. What are diamonds? Carbon - carbon links... much like the soot that darkens the engine oil.... Absolute horseshit that the oil filter should filter out anyway.

[@markknights5109]

It's bugger belief that no one has got the wisdom to listen to the people that know. I knew as soon as you put the video up, good work keep them coming

[@vwrocco17]

As a JLR technician in the states we don’t even have any training on the diesel vehicles we only really have scr faults on the 3 liter and sometimes rarely we get some egr trouble. Jimmy has been a great resource for education for me. I love watching his videos

[@tmautos-surrey-sussex]

You’re one of the best mechanics out there who really started bringing great advice and maintenance on cars / vans , to the common person on the street . And like myself another mobile mechanic , cheers mate

[@1954307]

brilliant job as normal jimmy, its really bad to see that customer so badly fleeced, but i bet you he is well pleased now with your work...keep em comming

[@billb3444]

That’s my car , 2016 RRS td6, Jimmy. Thanks to you it is a great car. Just did the throttle body change after 70,000m. A great car for gobbling up the miles. Virginia to Utah and back was just fuel and a bit of DEF. Nearest thing to flying comfort. Keep up the great work pushing back the fog of ignorance surrounding diesels and DPF. Cheers

[@ORileysAutos]

Great to hear!

[@jamiemurphy3404]

So you fixed the fault over the phone but the customer did not believe you but paid a garage thousands and did not complain about that well done jimmy

[@Kaizers11]

Great job Jimmy. You saved my life - turbo overboost error on my 3d Jag F-Pace, 2017....throttle body and MAP sensor both cleaned...so far, so good.

[@jollygreengiant]

Excellent work, as ever. Amazed that this took so long to get fixed, when the throttle body code was already evident!

[@GaryCoates-pm4yu]

You been sniffing that brake cleaner again only joking mate another good diagnostic and repair

[@belchnasty]

Got to be one of the best mechanics in the country.

[@faroukkhan6777]

Hi there Jimmy excellent you the best on that problem's,,But what People don't realize is All your time u spend Learning about the system and problem's,,top notch Tech,,👌💯

[@eddieMurphy11111]

the more i read about these the more it puts me off buying one so i will stick to my old freelander, thanks for the video

[@duggy788]

hard to believe that the garages don't know about this fault my cat even knows about it 🤣.

[@SabretoothBarnacle]

Same problem used to exist with the 48mm k-series throttle bodies from years ago. Everyone swapped them out for the metal version instead and all the problems disappeared.

[@lint8391]

Seems like there's scope for someone to make an up-engineered throttle body for those Range Rovers...

[@paulnolan1352]

Cheers jimmy, if I was that Customer I would be out for a refund. That’s pure incompetence. When I was in Plant we had very few problems with Vehicles which allowed us to get on with making money with the Machines. All the best.

[@du7ch384]

When you've been hit in the wallet on lots of pointless and expensive parts that doesn't fix your car you cant blame the guy for being sceptical, but we all know you nailed it. 👍

[@trickyfocus]

If Jimmy told me to bring a part with me, it would be in the front foot well

[@G4RY1159]

Thanks again fella

[@Gneeznow]

I've had all kinds of EGR related codes show up because of both a stuck throttle body and a dirty mass airflow sensor

[@tardeliesmagic]

Very helpful video, thanks for the effort in making this.

[@shaunblakemore7150]

Great job as usual 👍

[@davidmehlhorn726]

The point is the guy spent tens of thousands on this car and it has the same fault with the throttle body that has been found multiple times. Range Rover should either bring out a new improved part or fix these issues for free as it’s obviously a design fault

[@Duxieking69]

if you get new throttle body from range rover, they improved the design and it doesn't happen - so they know it was faulty but they never made a recall on it to replace it for free

[@s.wilson5675]

It's a FORD engine.

[@diablorojo914]

The TOpix diag and testing section has a picture of the date stamp for those plastic throttles. It’s been a known issue since 2016 and is published. The pinpoint test for P0234-77 also may lead you to that date stamp check.

[@ariantaria2065]

Whoever buys this JLR I am sure they have the money to maintenen them, they just play you saying don't have the money to put new parts,,JLR in my opinion they are unreliable cars,,,you know your job well .. well done Jimmy

[@soggybottom3463]

Geezer. Great video, God bless 🤗🤗

[@jamesward5721]

The free repair to the sticking throttle body isn't filing down the butterfly, it's banging a self-tapper in from underneath - Tbody off - so that it protrudes in just enough to stop the butterfly from knee-locking into the stuck position. Make it so it just barely closes but can't kick-over into the locked position. It's only when it kicks past that last 1 or 2mm that the "stuck" condition arises. Bang it back on, run a position re-learn & save 500 quid. Or 6k in this case. :-) Won't work? Wanna bet? Oh yes it will. I file the tip of the screw flat once it's in, then adjust it so it acts as a physical stop. Bosh - issue resolved. Costs 10p - or 100 quid if you pay me to. Because.

[@FromMetayou]

Practical solution love it

[@t5jerry]

NO substitute for experience..........

[@tomsurrey2252]

Well done, Jimmy!!

[@PTRsTransport]

Great job Jimmy

[@danascully-x2t]

Did the previous garage charge for a turbo, but just file down the throttle body badly?

[@RogerM88]

A plastic throttle body...what could possibly go wrong? I wouldn't mind it, if the parts were significantly cheaper for the customers... which doesn't happen.

[@SimonCoates]

I've just replaced a snapped clutch master cylinder on a Citroen Relay van and that's made from plastic. You'd think they'd at least make the plunger rod out of metal but it's all plastic. Even the clutch pedal is plastic 🤔

[@RogerM88]

@@SimonCoates When Accountants start to draw cars. If you wrench on a 90's car, and then in something more recent, you soon find the drastic switch in parts quality.

[@TheDaf95xf]

What a great video matey 👍🏻

[@rodneymaynard3834]

Alot of these garages just see pound signs and rip people off.

[@alikijones9314]

Thanks, perhaps I could get some advice. 😢

[@jameshalligan1933]

Nice one Jimmy I’ve got a lady with a 2012 sport who just contacted me here in France her local garage don’t know what’s wrong and Range Rover don’t want to look at it as it’s a uk vehicle 😮 po488 code so wish me luck 🍀

[@rhkavli]

Take off the pipe running between the air filter and the engine. There is an electrically operated butterfly valve there. Check for soot that prevent its operation.

[@DarrenUren7]

Great job

[@davidgrover2665]

Just changed Throttle Body in my car and after few trouble free weeks the Overboost code is back! Any ideas where I can ask my Mechanic to look next please. Love this car when it’s running smoothly but it’s been very frustrating this year!

[@tam1381]

Land Rover better than a Toyota.. I need to lie down and call the Doctor.

[@G4RY1159]

Good luck reaching that Doctor, unless you are a migrant ?

[@Cheepchipsable]

On one particular issue. Toyota had a lot of DPF problem a while back but It seems they have sorted it. Expensive mechanical problems might seem like "not a big deal" if you are a mechanic, but seeing how so many seem to misdiagnose diesel issues, that is a problem for us regular plods who don't have access to a lot of equipment.

[@leedavies6690]

Hi, if there is a problem with the throttle body , map manifold sensor , tp sensor will it send a code for these failure parts ?

[@lint8391]

They spent more trying to fix their Range Rover than I will spend on my next car. I know which I'd rather have out of a 12 year old executive Euro 5 diesel and a load of parts that didn't fix a car. Seems like I'm working on a totally different financial level when it comes to cars than some people. For sure a 2017 Range Rover is a lovely car to be in and to drive. But so are certain BMW, Mercedes, Volvo, Audi etc etc etc Euro 5 diesels...

[@MikeOxaflopin]

Just glazing over the 3.0 crank issue?

[@BH-tp3pm]

The moment I hear Range Rover / dpf in the same sentence. I’m at the throttle body 😜

[@johnmcquay82]

Not sure why people seem to hate on them either. If you need a vehicle with some balls for towing, they're a great car. There aren't many vehicles out there where you can tow a 3500Kg trailer with relative ease. A friend on mine recently had a 3.0L Discovery; he used it for towing a trailer stage. Other than the split inlet manifold (which he knew about when he bought it) it's not given him any bother. He only moved it on as he had 4 vehicles, and of the vehicles he had, it was the least practical.

[@simonsackett]

In the future we'll be able to upload our knowledge and experience to an AI system that'll be able to solve any problem known to man. Until then we rely on good people like you.

[@davelock3166]

It just shows, that these days it pays to gain as much knowledge as you can with vehicles.

[@roberthampton6438]

Nice motor,pity they are such a money pit.

[@zoranzekanovic8716]

Great job from you as always. What the price of you diagnostic tool X-431 euro tab III? Thanks.

[@ORileysAutos]

£5995 from www.launchtech.co.uk

[@falestini1000]

I have the Same Problem but i dont have any Check lamp nothing

[@filipandjelkovic5666]

Hey i have problem with mine RR sport2012 sdv6.I change turbo on on both sides, and again it shows me the same error P2263-22-turbo superchage system performance. I WILL PUT ME IN RESTRICTION POWER MODE, can you help me with some advice on what to look at next? thank you

[@simonfowler7561]

Land Rover quality these days seems to be in the toilet. They used to try, now perhaps given up? Horrible cars, very sad.

[@michaelbaker6723]

Landrover dealers are thick as fuck when it comes to there own cars on diagnostics. And still can’t fix it and people put trust in them. We have a car at work that comes up with dpf fault but probably says other faults and limp mode. Landrover changed the turbo and a few weeks later same fault came back. Car has done 150000m discovery sport 2.0l 2015. I wounder if that has the same problem as that

[@hughmarcus1]

He wants to get rid of that pronto. It says Gen2 on the pipe. What they've done with the gen2 TDV6 is utter madness. There's an electronic control on the oil pump that reduces oil pressure at idle to 'reduce emissions' for Euro 6. This on an engine where they've pushed the limit of the crankshaft. This owner has had multiple DPF problems, so you can guarantee oil dilution. It's a ticking time bomb. There's such a demand for rebuilt/replacement gen2 engines that they're making £8-10k on the black market. JLR can't even a delivery date for a short motor. BTW I've owned multiple LR models down the years.

[@MadAntz970]

Its also a problem that I'm starting to see on VAG group current gen v6 tdi's as well. They use the same stunt to get through Euro 6 and what happens with them is massive premature valve train wear to the extent thathe cams, chains, sprockets and variable timing gear becomes junk at relatively low miles.

[@hughmarcus1]

@@MadAntz970Crazy stuff. That VAG V6 diesel was once a good robust unit.

[@1maico1]

Who actually makes the throttle body shown in the video?

[@FromMetayou]

So im getting from this too is as well as buy the car buy a diagnostic machine your gonna need it

[@giannidedyn5449]

Wish tool do you use?

[@ORileysAutos]

LAUNCH UK EURO TAB 3

[@danielseibert4082]

Is that a full plastic thottle body? never seen that before... 😂

[@rxy2580]

If you can afford a Range Rover, you can afford the repair bills lol

[@DerekObrien-tk7we]

The ultimate solution fot that peugeot is to turn off add blue and block off dpf ,fundamentally the peugeot diesel is a good engine remember ,the 309, 504, diesel from the 80s ,

[@nia79nia]

Hi, Hope someone can help me. I have a RR Sport 2017 with same code P0234-77. When this code is on, DPf will not regenerate. I have now changed the intake manifold on top of the engine to a new one but I still get the same fault code P0234-77 ”intermittent”. Any ideas what els can be wrong? The car works fine as long as I clear the faultcode using my CarSoft. But is there any other hardware malfunction that can set this code?

[@kamikazekaos]

Nothing wrong with my jag 2.0 R.sport well until the adblue fuel quality light came on , so i looked at the injector is clean , so i regen the dpf now its ok or is it temporary?

[@stevezodiac491]

Could a turbo fault in the history like was on this range rover, with the actual fault being a faulty throttle body and sensor, occur on a 70 reg Fiat talento van ?

[@danthecarman8440]

All new cars are rubbish and not built to last more then the warranty given. Everything is plastic so how can they last with the heat cycles etc ? It's the emissions that's killing them.

[@islandhopperstuart]

Well done Jimmy: great job...and shame on the monkeys who couldn't diagnose the true nature of the fault but ripped-off the owner. Another damning indictment of the general level of competence of your common or garden parts swappers.

[@Altair885]

Those jag/land rover vehicles are just utter shite now. My favourite is probably the Ingenium engine in the discovery sport. Prone to timing chain failure, but to change the chain you have to pretty much take the car apart as it lives on the flywheel end of the engine! Of course if you're already in there you might as well do a clutch. Even if you're doing it for yourself it soon becomes an expensive undertaking!! Designed to fail for sure.

[@hughmarcus1]

a bit like the 2.0 BMW engine

[@RideBikes_Walkplaces]

Why on earth wouldn't you look at the least intrusive thing first. Took 2 seconds to remove the clip and inspect. If it sticks shut, boost is high! Carbon clean or replace with new. Tbh the turbo was probably leaking oil and mixed with the egr carbon and caused this to stick. Its makes a right mess. Vws are bad for the throttle sticking due to carbon. No idea why you would try file that throttle, that's just odd.

[@johnmitchell2741]

its made out of plastic what could go wrong

[@abuubaydullah1]

Way to many so called mechanic's out there that don't know how to work on hi-tec motors even though they have bought diagnostic tools but think they can just muggle their way through it all but they can't

[@DaleSteel]

Your kidding me. That 3.0L have cranks snapping and are very bad for it

[@mattmckie6967]

They spin a bearing and cut the oil supply off.. you'd never guess what the cause is!!.

[@DaleSteel]

@mattmckie6967 I think alot of it is long service intervals and oil degredation exasperated by poor functioning dpf that cause back pressure thus causing oil to thicken even more so

[@Karl-Benny]

Nothing wrong with SH Parts

[@grantscott2605]

Toyota s are geart but they have there own problems to landrover

[@jjimmyrjagger]

Just guessing beforehand throttle body sticking , can't wait to see if I'm right or wrong.

[@stuart6973]

I find LR RR have to be worked hard and not just doing town driving.

[@hughmarcus1]

True of anything that's got a DPF, to be fair.

[@careyautorepairs]

Hey Jimmy, can you please put a list of the Range Rovers you like and list you don't like below with the engine sizes you like most and years. This list would be fanatic to know to pass on to others so they don't get stuck with a problem. Thank you brother. P.S. Please be nice with the list because my mate is the manager and I sold him my pet monkey so we need to keep them in business and we can all as a team force them to improve next models and discontinue the crap engines like the 3L for people that don't pull with them and just want them for show giving people honest advice. Also I don't see many range rover evoque in your videos, can we also have a rundown on them as many young people want them, and I can see why as I like them myself. Ha ha ha.

[@philiparmbruster2396]

What about crankshaft failure? Just look at LRtime or more recently Barum Engines to see what a disaster this engine is.

[@nigelsears7191]

Amazing if the customer only looks at some of your previous videos he would see your going to be right on the issue, I guess your not a main steeler so not trustworthy lol

[@peterparsons3297]

But surly Landover main dealers know of this fault.... who the hell is working on these vehicles

[@MummaBear]

It's this also a Renault engine 😝

[@OH2023-cj9if]

Didn't your tester show you the sensor was blocked? Was the throttle body really broken? I can see why the customer didn't want to buy a new one. There is no way all the people spending £6K to £12K on this repair went to a main dealership. They have been going to backstreet garages who think a fault code reader tells them what to change. You still need to know how the engines work as a fault code shows a condition. It just gives a clue.

[@Duxieking69]

tools won't tell you sensor is blocked as the car computers can't check that lol, they can tell you if its underboosting or overboosting or expected pressure hasn't been met but that's about it - which is exactly what the fault would be in that Range Rover, with the throttle body blocked you would get overboosting codes

[@jeffk4223]

So this one spent £6000 for no real reason but wasn't willing to spend £500 to solve the problem. He/she/they/them deserve to get ripped off then.

[@tonyford7987]

Hope you charged him for the throttle body, tight git not believing you 🤡

[@RKGxxy]

It there anybody here with RR/Jaguar 3.0D V6 engine and knows what is normal milage between active DPF regens? Regardless of driving style (city driving or highway only) I get from 100km to 200km max between regens. Is that normal with this engines? Or should it be more liked 500-800km?

[@nia79nia]

It depends of how you drive. When the engine is cool the DPF loads up fast. So if you are only doing shorter trips you can gain 1-2 grams in 10 km. But when all temperatures are up and you are driving on highway you can get 1-2 grams in 60 km. So it really depends on how you drive these cars.

[@montecristo8624]

I am a Honda CR-V, type R and S2000 guy. I'm not a Toyota guy. But the moment you compared Range Rover and Toyota on reliability and in fact you placed the RR above the Toyota...Sir, with all due respect to you as a mechanic, which is not much after that statement, you have lost some (being charitable) credibility in the automotive industry. Please bear in mind that I love Range Rovers, and I want to have one but only because i love being under the car and on the engines a lot. The Range Rover is a very stylish car, but by God, it's a problematic car like no other.

[@80s90sGuy]

They're essentially a Ford engine. Which well, Fords are junk imo.

[@DiscoGruffaloRTFM]

That MAP sensor has never been cleaned. Never. Nothing wrong with the car except the owner who doesn't look after it.

[@OH2023-cj9if]

Don't keep saying "I believe". It sounds like you have lied about something. Get the information or check facts first. If you are not sure or haven't checked something, say so, no one is bothered!!!

[@richardsheil5289]

Give it a rest. It's just his turn of phrase.