The Best Sub 250g Cinewhoop just got upgraded! GEPRC Cinelog 25 V2

[@TR-sj9fp]

Really enjoy your videos, and am always just sitting here going "god that property is gorgeous", so cool man

[@creativesymon]

I wish I could speak Italian as well as you speak English. Phenomenal (I couldn't even spell that without help) 😆

[@Rimzler]

Ahahhahaahah thanks, it's a skill I am growing in tandem with my channel, if you look at my first videos I was super bad, but making videos and talking for hours in front of the camera really helps with fluency, I need to improve the accent tho😂😂😂😂

[@Yartin]

@@Rimzlerlove to see it, man! Keep it up 🔥

[@fox5136]

Fantastic flyin, lovely home.

[@Rimzler]

Thank you so much!☺️☺️

[@mharvinmariano5353]

Thank you for the review.

[@Rimzler]

Thank you for watching!

[@Yartin]

Trying to decide between this, Darkstar20, Pavo Pico, and Pavo20. This one is the most expensive though. Any tips?

[@HamdiR]

Love your work Rimzler, your videos are better than most of the FPV celebs on KZbin! You provide all the needed information in a quick simple form, like the content in the box, flight time, jello, weight and most importantly, the loudness of the drone. I am currently flying the Pavo Pico V2 (which actually fixes the jello if you know what you're doing), I also need a faster sub-250 quad. My question after this review is why would I get the Cinelog 25 instead of the smaller and lighter Cinelog20 or Cineon20? What is the main advantage? I am also disappointed that GEPRC did not change propeller guards which are a problem if you break them just like the Cinelog 20, I am still leaning toward the Cineon20 simply because of the easier guard replacement and less loudness. Your Cineon20 video is one of the best. The only problem is that not many vendors are selling the Cineon.

[@Rimzler]

Thank you so much! Any advice you have I'm super curious! Well it depends what you need, if you want to carry naked gopro the c25 is the most versatile and powerful! Yes they could have changed prop guards, but also I found you can change them with other brands one for very cheap, I am using the kopis ones on the v1

[@HamdiR]

@@Rimzler The new v2 batch of the pavo pico was revised. The mount screws are longer, the USB port is better and it's more user-friendly. The ESC is 20A and 3S able. I'm flying in the winter winds (it's not fun) and no jello whatsoever. The mount screws should be tightened just enough so they no longer wiggle and lock into the rubber bands but not over-tightened, the rubber bands should not compress. the camera cable should be arranged away from the camera so it does not touch it (using zip ties or squeezing it behind the plastic frame). Finally, you should use the o3 screws for the camera and not the ones supplied by Betafpv, use the bottom holes and add O-rings and tighten to the max. I need to order a 4S sub 250 soon for the winter. Can't we carry a naked gopro on the c20 and cineon 20? I'm still leaning toward the smaller 20-inch. Any idea which one the least loud?

[@CarlosRodriguez-vg2ob]

Okay, I'm about to buy another drone, and you have the most honest reviews around. So, what are your thoughts on this one vs. the Pavo25 v2? and which one is louder

[@jacekkaczmarczyk_drones]

Amazing, been waiting for this drone for a while. Thanks for another great review 🐔🐔🐔🐔

[@Rimzler]

Hahahahah had to sneak in a bit of 🐔🐔🐔

[@jacekkaczmarczyk_drones]

@@Rimzler excellent 👌🏻

[@Stevieboyfpv]

Built 3 versions of the 25 i love them! My favorite most used minicini i converted one for the 03 already but no good access to the memory card. I will be getting the new frame for my 03 one for sure when it comes out. Great review as always man!

[@Rimzler]

Thank you for watching! For sure one of the best sub250g platforms!

[@floridadrones]

What option di I choose when buying it I want to use Dji controller

[@mot1thom]

Awesome flights! Looking at this for my first fpv drone - does the o3 unit only pair with DJI goggles?

[@droneq8]

The good thing propeller guard edges not shown in the camera Thanks for review

[@Mathew-A]

Amazing video and I took your advice last time to use 4 x 3 aspect ratio 😊

[@Rimzler]

Thank you! Is it better in 4:3?

[@Mathew-A]

@@Rimzler yes very good in 4:3 before I was doing fpv in 16:9 and it’s better flying as well

[@SpirusFilms]

this is gonna be my first fpv drone :)) do you live in Sicily? So beautiful

[@Rimzler]

That's a solid choice! I live in the north of Rome! 😍

[@ones_flow5652]

I ordered one as my first FPV copter. Let's see, what happens. 🙂 Btw.: You have a beautiful place to fly there! - And good video too, of course! ;-)

[@samuela775]

How is it? I’m going to get it as my first to?

[@ones_flow5652]

@@samuela775 Honestly, I wouldn't recommend it, but it is my first and only FPV copter, so I don't have own comparison. What I dislike: About 2-3 minutes flighttime at the higher range. If you push throttle, it's less. It doesn't have much power. Maybe, if you remove the prop guards and do some pid tuning, but I don't know. It's ok, but it is nowhere comparable to a freestyle one. Well, it's a cinewhoop with the possibility to do some minor and slow tricks. What I like: The GEPRC support is really really great and helpful! The overall quality seems to be ok and with the right files you can really bnf. I messed up with the config, but if you aren't as dumb as me, nearly everything works fine. I just still have problems to use my osd for the o3 unit. Has been working, but I messed up again. 🙂 For learning and for some really nice footage with the o3 unit, it's a great copter. If you want to learn freestyle, like I wanted to do, this one seems to be a bad idea, but as mentioned, it isn't meant for that. ;-)

[@jdleschw]

Raise the aperture on your lens!

[@Rimzler]

I need to invest in some F0.9 lenses ahahahahhaha

[@fox5136]

Great video, looks like i need another drone now. lol All the best.

[@leonardothillet6423]

Nice video, I am between this quad and the V1, probably going with the v1 since I need to use a naked gopro with it, plus the v2 is impossible to find right now, but man that quad is sweeeeet.

[@Hoby_Drones]

give me a choice and include the reasons. pavo25 v2 or cinelog25 v2

[@jitenhirani7710]

Are you able to share your rates

[@BeautyBeastRC]

Great video! Does geprc use stock betaflight tune on their drones?

[@Rimzler]

No they come pidded from factory!

[@JeRiMarAV]

Great video! I am looking to buy this drone. One question: how do you get the telemetry data in the DJI googles? I read everywhere that itnisna pain to get all data yoh want in DJI goggles

[@Rimzler]

If you get the version already set up for DJI the data is there, just go in the osd settings and add what data you need!

[@JeRiMarAV]

@@Rimzler thanks for your fast answer. I go for the Crosfire nano version. I guess that will be another store for the OSD telemetry data?

[@nabilalhusail4731]

Is it possible to use li-ion battery instead of LiPo? If so how long would the battery last? (Still a beginner here)

[@user-bg8kz9zn8e]

Hello what it is the best controller for cinelog25 v2 o3 ? Thenk you

[@le_ti_lik]

Can't wait til you try the oddity xi25 👀

[@Rimzler]

I have to try it for sure!😍

[@crookers2135]

looks bloody amazing.

[@Network_UA]

Amazing watched all your reviews. Can i ask what drone up to 4 inch would you say is the quietest and has both worlds of cine stabitity and agility?

[@JosephDeksnys]

I think you charged your 660mAh battery to 4.2, it's LiHv and it should be charged to 4.35, hence flight time wasn't as long as it could have been.

[@Rimzler]

I am sure to have charged to 17.4 using the lihv setting on my charger, maybe the o3 absorbs enough that voltage dropped?

[@SmasherFPV23]

You put Your heart to It. Subscribed 👊 Does it come with gps? Doest it work good? Changing antenna will make the o3 range better?

[@AltoDronesUK]

Ciao mio amico, darkstar 20 or this? Jello I understand but ultimately I have 2S batteries already! Great review as always

[@jeffersonkoerich6315]

Thanks for the nice review! Since you already flew with cinelog20. Can you tell me if is there much difference about the 2 inches cinelog20? In you opinion with one is better to fly without a gopro, just the o3.

[@Rimzler]

Thank you! The c25 V2 is the choice for 4s imho, the cinelog 20 is very good but the 25 will fly better, and no concern going over 250g for you, since you will not be using a GoPro!

[@dronefilmsgermany]

Is this better than Pavo 20?

[@Rimzler]

Well depends what you need, this one can carry a naked GoPro, if you don't need it then Pavo 20 is lighter

[@Quad8ightMix]

Thanks for sharing your amazing video review on this cinelog25 v2, i just want to ask if this cinelog25 v2 have the same size of propeller guard on the first cinelog25. Thanks for your future response

[@Rimzler]

Yes I'm 95% sure they are the exact same ones!

[@Quad8ightMix]

@@Rimzler thanks for confirming, as i saw a modified(same design in avata) 3d print cl25 prop guard that is more stronger than the stack ones & is made of PETG material..

[@ClareFPV]

Wicked good

[@Rimzler]

Yep it's crazy! Now I wanna try full GoPro lol

[@gior12_]

this or cinelog20?

[@creativcluster]

Nice review and thank you I’m sold on this as my first cinewhoop quad. Do you use ND’s on your 03 if so which brand ? Also what camera do you fly at @rimzler

[@jares1390]

Thank you for review! That do you think, what difference between Defender 25 and Cinelog25 V2? What would you choose between this?

[@Rimzler]

Cinelog25 V2 is the most versatile, has the best softmount in the game, flies great, can put whatever battery Defender is nice for o3 but gotta buy into the ecosystem and buy iflight batteries, it's looks better😂 My pick as a suggestion is cinelog25, just does more

[@jares1390]

@@Rimzler, Thank you for answer! I like the defender for its simplicity. You don't have to choose batteries. Preparing for flight in 10 seconds (this is important for me because I plan to photograph snowboarders in winter). There are no protruding wires or antennas. But it seems that Cinelog can fly better. This will be a hard choice for me))

[@Rimzler]

@jares1390 cinelog maybe flies a tiny better but also it's not carrying a 900mah lipo that's why, so with the same batts they will be similar, if you don't plan a naked GoPro go with defender, I flew in snow and was super fun

[@jares1390]

@@Rimzler I going to use only o3, without GoPro. So, I ordered Defender 25 just now)) Thank you for help!

[@Eisenheim32]

Ciao! First of all, thanks for your videos, great work!! I don’t know if you can help me decide, but I try it anyways. I have an Avata and I’m willing to buy something smaller for interior shots. Which drone do you suggest? (Darkstar, Cinelog 25v2, something else) Or the Avata is already enough smaller that I won’t notice any difference? Thank you in advance for your answer!!

[@Rimzler]

If you are fine with o3( same quality as avatar camera) then darkstar is nice, small light and doesn't make a ton of noise, can have a lot of fun indoors! Cinelog25 V2 is more powerful, versatile and can carry a naked GoPro if you need to work and is in the middle size weight and noise

[@bigodiz_]

Would you help me? I have a cinelog 25 v2, and I use goggles 2, but I can't see the osd, do you know why?

[@botchitong]

nice.. i think i'd like this better than the darkstar20 as a daily flyer.. few questions. did you need to setup the drone in betaflight after binding? how easy is it to access the o3 usbc port? did you need to solder the supply cable for the naked gopro?

[@Rimzler]

Yes this has all the bells and whistles and is much more refined, darkstar is better only if you really value weight and quietness 😂 I just bound and had to select my modes switches, nothing else, super fast and painless! O3 usbc port and SD card are below the ducts, easily Accessible and there is a rubber cap on USBC! It's in the part I forgot to record🙃 The naked GoPro power is supplied by the lipo balance plug adapter, you can see it in the unboxing! You can of course open the drone and solder it there for permanent use!

[@Original_Waterboy]

I want the 25 V2 03 and planned to use it with the DJI goggles 2 and possibly the dji controller 2 as I could use it with the avata, also. The other option is crossfire. Also wondering if gps is necessary when 03 had GPS, also. Honestly not of fan of dji and all the damn permissions. Looking for opinions.

[@szabolcsszeverenyi7003]

what do you think? if i want a drone for makeing videoes of dancers, festivals, weddings, but i want to do some indoor flying for realestates, should i buy the cinelog25, or the cinebot30? cause i would prefer the plus half inch and power but if its not good for indoors or people are scared of it, than i would stuck with the 2.5

[@Rimzler]

Well if you have to fly around people and carry a naked gooro the 25 seems like the best option to me, I flew the old one in a school full of kids ahahahah still feels safe enough, once you go into the cinebot30 territory you add a ton of weight, size and noise into the equation I lately fly the 2s ones around people when is possible, much less noise and distraction

[@cristian_c]

Which drone do you think is the best for indoor use? Cinewoop. I feel darkstar20 quite hard to control in acro inside.. very sensitive.

[@Rimzler]

Indoor use o3 only go with Flylens85, is the lightest and most versatile

[@VikSim_VS]

Would you recon this or the Cinelog30 for mostly indoor flying, when the budget is right, with a naked GoPro ? Thx

[@Rimzler]

I would go with this for naked GoPro and indoor, super versatile

[@evil.hamster-fpv]

What about best props for cinelog25 On cinelog20 gemfan 2023 works good Do we have any gemfan alternatives for cinelog 25?

[@Rimzler]

Cinelog25 propellers are some of my favs, cinelog 20 get the gemfan hurricane, or the hqprops from the darkstar 20 are great as well

[@PorriFPV]

Ciao, ho provato a farci un po' di freestyle come hai fatto tu nel video ma il mio cinelog 25 fa troppi propwash e wash out, come mai? che PID utilizzi?

[@Rimzler]

Uso i pid stock che erano nel drone, e andava molto bene, scrivimi su insta in caso ti mando il mio diff, stai usando una GoPro naked o batterie diverse?

[@DoktorSkill]

which PWM frequenzy does it use? 96khz for more flight time?

[@Rimzler]

Usually 48khz, 96 improves on much smaller like 60mm

[@lukasneug]

Darkstar20 or Cinelog 25 V2 which one do you like better?

[@Rimzler]

Well it's hard to choose To me the cinelog25 V2 is hands down the better drone, flies better and never has jello, can also carry a camera if needed But when traveling I value a super stealthy drone that I can fly in urban environment and go unnoticed, so I will experiment carrying the darkstar and see how it goes, it's way lighter and quieter, just wish had a better damping system for the camera

[@lukasneug]

@@Rimzler thanks for the response! i'd most likely use the drone while traveling too, will look more into the darkstar then :) Have you tested the range of both of them? if yes what were the results?

[@Rimzler]

The range should be similar having both the same o3 unit, probably darkstar could be a little worse having the pigtail antennas, but in my testing I didn't see too much difference! Also in wind conditions the c25 should be better cause had more mass and power! I usually travel with an Avata (now I'm developing a stealth 4 inch Avata) a freestyle and a little drone for urban work, the darkstar is the best one I found so far! People are not intimidated by it and that gives me a ton of peace of mind

[@ofirattia]

How about taking action 2 camera?

[@Rimzler]

It will take it, will be a little on the heavier side

[@FPVPulse]

Hei! What batterys you recommend for this one?:D

[@rclxmg]

Cineon c20, cinelog 20 o cinelog 25 v1? Per volare con o3 come primo drone sub 250g? 🙏 la qualità di o3 mi basta, ma avere la possibilità di montare una naked in futuro vorrei averla ugualmente 😊

[@Rimzler]

Il c25 V2 è sicuramente il più versatile, va bene in ogni situazione e porta una cam senza problemi tranne che molto difficilmente sarà sotto 250 con naked GoPro! Gli altri 2 inch vanno comunque bene anche all'esterno, ma il 25 regge meglio

[@BaksteRollFPV]

Hello, could you tell me which drone is better in its category, cinelog25 v2 or pavo 25 v2?

[@Rimzler]

Cinelog can be under 250, Pavo cannot, also Pavo is not designed as good as the cinelog25 and has some striking flaws if you use o3

[@BaksteRollFPV]

Thank you for the quick answer, what disadvantages do you have in mind when using o3 because this is the version I would like to buy?

[@BaksteRollFPV]

@@Rimzler I need cinewhoop for indoor flights to present real estate and companies, could you recommend me the best option in your opinion?

[@weslisahum]

I think I need all the geprc's

[@typicalflame865]

does it work with liHv batteries???

[@Rimzler]

Yes, it's the battery they even recommend!

[@typicalflame865]

@@Rimzler awsome thanks

[@Stepanhuge]

Nice review! Do you know if it is compatible with oddity props guards?

[@Rimzler]

Not really know, but often ducts for this quads are intercompatible, the space is the same

[@Stepanhuge]

Thanks@@Rimzler , I fly analog and there is a big question with 2.5 inch choose. cinelog25, pavo 25 v2, oddity... for me the top 3. Regarding to be under 250g with naked go pro. Any advice? I am quite loose

[@angeladavid100]

Hello, happy new year, I would like to know which is the best of these two drones betapavo 20 or GEPRC Darkstar 20,Which one has the least vibration in the video?which is the smallest? Which is the best overall, thank you

[@Rimzler]

Happy new year! They are the same size, Pavo has more power,more weight, more noise, flies better, and in my testing has no vibration, also the flylens 85 has no vibration but is as light and silent as darkstar

[@angeladavid100]

@@Rimzler What do you advise me? I'm torn

[@Rimzler]

@angeladavid100 if you want more power Pavo, more light and silent Flylens85 Also the Pavo is a little more resistant to crashes, flylens with naked o3 is a little more exposed, but the softmount is the best and will never have jello!

[@angeladavid100]

@@Rimzler Thank you I just bought the pavo20 thank you very much

[@evil.hamster-fpv]

Omg i cannot choose between cinelog20 and cinelog25 Help me please

[@Rimzler]

If you plan to carry a naked GoPro get a cinelog25, but be careful it will be heavier than 250g, with the cinelog20 you will be sub250g but will not fly amazing with naked gopro

Thanks for the video! This is PNP version? If I order elrs version the signal will be better? 🤔

[@Rimzler]

I am using DJI radio, has pretty much the same range as DJI video, ELRS will be better but once you lose video is game over anyway most times, you can still try and recover it with elrs

[@lopesdev]

Can you still be precise flying this indoor with the dji rc2 remote?​@@Rimzler

[@Rimzler]

It's not the best radio out there and gimbals are small, but I use thumbs anyway and adapted to it, I don't feel particular issues, can be precise for indoor Cinewhooping which I do regularly for work

[@olacfpv]

If only GEPRC make a Walksnail version...

[@aeronthecoolest]

Hi mate, fcc mod working on rc pro now?

[@sWetPlays]

Watched a lot of cinewhoop videos and none of them could match dji avata´s flight time. I am looking for avata alternative, cuz I don´t like having only their RC and etc. Does something like that exist or I am wrong about the flight time performanec of other drones ? thanks

[@Rimzler]

Well you can add a really big battery on a Cinewhoop and get a similar experience, usually we are running smaller batteries for better agility

[@sWetPlays]

@@Rimzler Well you did 4 minutes with 660mah. So you would need 1320mah for 8 minutes is this even possible ? I get the point but even the avata seems pretty agile with that flight time. Just curious, cuz I don´t really want to buy avata, but seems pretty good :D

[@Rimzler]

Yeah something like that ahahha, the bigger the drone the better the efficiency, like on a 3 inch you can put a much bigger battery and get longer flight times DJI batteries are top notch and hold a ton of power in a tiny package, that's why they have the advantage

[@Rimzler]

Like the avata is running about 2500 mAh 4s on a 3 inch, but the battery is as big as a typical 1500 4s

[@sWetPlays]

So something like cinebot30 could compete with avata ?@@Rimzler

[@DanilMinardi]

Ottimo video , posso chiederti se gia non lo ho fatto se si paga la dogana tramite geprc?

[@Rimzler]

Con le spedizioni tramite corriere si paga il 90% delle volte

[@DanilMinardi]

@@Rimzler c’è un modo per non pagarla?

[@Rimzler]

Con la spedizione lenta ci sta molta possibilità di non pagarla

[@cnw-jd9tt]

Nicceee i want one bad.

[@damianwyczakowski2491]

Hello there !

[@ziggyaiefpv]

Hello, I'm writing to you from France. Can you share the PIDs with me? Diff all

[@Rimzler]

Send me a dm on Instagram with your mail😉

[@sicco6213]

lol the darkstar flew better than this :D

[@tokke4]

Zero improvement. Flighttime sucks. They could make it way lighter.

[@Rimzler]

It is the O3 version of the v1, not totally a V2, but it flies better than the old one! A little lighter would have been better for sure!