Yet another Incredible Cinewhoop... So Soon? Geprc Cinebot 25 Review!

[@FPVFRASHA]

I like your reviews.. there's no bullsh*t you just tell the people how it is, pros and cons and generally try to help them find the right product for them.

[@Rimzler]

Thank you so much! Yeah I try to make sense of products, and since I know manufacturers are watching, try to expose the obvious shortcomings so we can have better stuff come out in the future!

[@njikki]

i agree, simple and good

[@gimbalair]

Do you tune? Ie would you release a better tune for it?

[@matkoobad]

Yes , he is only guy who will say correct

[@AlexPortMedia]

I agree! We definitely need a sub 250g cinewhoop WITH naked GoPro. I would buy instantly!

[@Rimzler]

I feel like companies are losing focus of why we need this kind of drones ahahahah

[@westwingaero]

RedKyte Drones make the XZWEI, check it out sub 250

[@Alf-Dee]

I totally agree! These kind of heavy 2.5” cinewhoops are totally worthless for me. And because of this I was planning to take a 3” toothpick, put superlight 3”propguards, and use it with a naked vista and a naked Gopro. The result is a superlight 3”, very silent, with amazing quality footage. (I know Albert Kim did something like that 2-3 years ago). Another option is the Xdrei frame from a German company. Bardwell reviewed it a while ago, but I would love to know what you think about it!

[@Rimzler]

Man i wish I had my drone company, seems like 90% of companies out there don't fully understand the needs of the community, maybe one day when the channel is bigger ahhahahahahah

[@MADFlyFpv]

👏👏👏👏👏 excellent review as always!

[@Rimzler]

Thank you so much☺️☺️☺️☺️

[@dubsrcfpvandfamilyfuntimes913]

Pretty nice looking design. I love the camera mount design. Great review video man.

[@Rimzler]

Yeah they upped the quality, curious to see what's next! Thanks for tuning in!

[@andreazanaboni4757]

Rimzler’s reviews 🔥planning to make a long range anytime soon?

[@Rimzler]

Eventually will make it ahahah, i'm waiting for the prototype motors on my Avata LR project

[@pc2522]

Totally agree about the weight. The ideal 25 cinewhoop will be sub 150 gr with o3 and M10 gps. Waiting to see which manufacturer will come up with it.

[@Rimzler]

Exactly, whichever comes up with it first I will praise like crazy ahahah

[@tomoquads3975]

I like that we are now getting an injection molded parts instead of cheap looking 3d prints but the camera mount is just a bad idea.

[@Rimzler]

Better than most other brands that don't care about jello, but i feel like the cinelog mount is the best one I've seen so far and more protected

[@TheBilbel]

Sir what is the cheapest fpv goggle Bd fpv controller can i buy that is compatible with cinelog 25?

[@Rimzler]

Cheapest is analog, bit the experience is not amazing, I would suggest you try and buy some used DJI hd gear, much better signal and experience

[@i.am.mmehdi]

i like this one too!!! I just bought the Cinelog35 following your review which is always spot on! thank you as usual for your content and valuable information.

[@CrowbarCromar]

How is it? Looking at getting one. I've got the AVATA but looking to upgrade. I like to film extreme sports and in doors for example indoors skateparks

[@Stepanhuge]

I move from geprc to oddity, the are almost same quality build, but oddity propgards are more durable and cheap. But also it is really difficult to stay under 250gr as you say in the video. We need a lighter gopro carrier an +4fly time

[@Rimzler]

Oddity is a very solid brand as well! I just wish some company gets the tip and makes what we need: a real sub250g drone with naked GoPro too

[@Dragoon4345]

We need a comparison between the cinewhoops i cant keep up with all of them and the differances

[@Rimzler]

Ahahhaha if you have doubts ask I'll tell you which one is better so far, I want to make a comparison, but every time they send a new one😂 even now I have another coming Too many drones coming out too similar to each other lol

[@Dragoon4345]

I was wondering if there are better drones for 3/4S with the O3 than the Pavo20 or the Ikon 2.5 @@Rimzler

[@Rimzler]

What are your exact needs? You could also get a frame and components, cheaper and maybe even lighter

[@Dragoon4345]

Cinematic Could also have more power like the Ikon 2.5 but doesnt necessarily need it.Well I have never thought of building myself a drone because I have no experience in fpv@@Rimzler

[@Rimzler]

@Dragoon4345 I am planning a FPV school series! Starting by building a small acro ripper

[@Quad8ightMix]

Wow, another amazing review of the latest cinebot, but still I'm waiting for ny cinelog25 v2, 😁, hope it will be shipped soon.

[@Rimzler]

Let me know if you like it😍😍😍😍

[@califpv]

Diggin' that cam housing 👌🏻

[@Rimzler]

I just wished it could softmount GoPro too, would have been perfect that wY

[@califpv]

@@Rimzler very true

[@SM-cg5ny]

Cinelog 25 or cinebot 25 for cinewhoop content? (GoPro can be added later)

[@Rimzler]

They are similar, the cinebot is a little better flyer and more crash resistant, the cinelog is better for naked GoPro as it has softmounts

[@SM-cg5ny]

@@Rimzler you’re the best. Thank you!

[@pointblank1292]

You are like the italian Joshua Bardwell :D

[@Rimzler]

Ahhaahahahha I am thinking about making a FPV school series😂😂

[@RezaEvol]

So what's the difference between the conelog 25 and this one's? It's kind of annoying how many options they have that seem to be like the same thing.

[@Rimzler]

This one slightly better flying and more resistant, but heavier and doesn't have the GoPro softmount

[@jenskarel5077]

Hello Rimzler, I believe you're from Italy, right? I'm curious, where do you usually purchase your drones? I'm asking because I'm from Belgium and I've attempted to buy drones from Banggood twice, only to encounter issues with lost packages on both occasions. While I received full refunds, it appears to be quite challenging to acquire these drones if you live in europe.

[@Rimzler]

Yessir I'm from Italy, I buy regularly from Banggood and especially AliExpress and have no issues, also get stuff directly from manufacturers with express shipping, most times have to pay customs tho but stuff arrives in a few days

[@cristianjosadec]

Hello great review , which you think it's better between this 1505 version vs the Pavo 25 V2 ?

[@Rimzler]

Hands down this one, is much better designed, doesn't have jello and you have full access to o3 SD card and stuff, also will be a tiny bit lighter Shame they forgot to include the motors, I am very curious to try

[@cristianjosadec]

@@Rimzler Thanks you for the quick response , yeas I want to see this drone with the 1505 because that was that I like of Pavo25 V2 the power and how fast it is .

[@jaayfpv13]

Hey Rimzler! Great video. I definetely agree with you here! There is no need for two basically exact replica drones. I prefer the Cinelog 25 over the Cinebot25, dont know why yet, but i like it more probably of the soft mount for Gopro I would like to see a comparison of those two! The Problem you mentioned is my Problem right now. I want the best price as well as the best quality i can get but it should have a O3 and be able to carry a naked go pro and still be sub250 I dont have the problem to build it myself, already build 5" and so on. Would you suggest to like buy the parts seperatly and look to manage to stay under 250g also it would be cheaper to do so right? To clarify it: i would buy the parts of the cinelog 25 or 20 (Frame, O3, ...) and built it myself maybe change the FC to a better one or the Motors like on Cinebot25, but still it would be super hard to stay below 250grams, but i would be cheaper in that case Do you think that is a good idea and will work out? and if not some other opportunities? Greetings from Germany!

[@Rimzler]

The issue is that at the moment I have not seen a 2.5 doing both o3 good and being sub250 with a GoPro... Even if you build yourself is going to be incredibly hard But like the old cinelog25 has no problem with caddx vista and naked GoPro, don't know why they are raising the weight so much... Well I know many brands watch this videos so hope some picks up the message and delivers what we all need ahahah Otherwise I need to start my own brand to make stuff happen ahahahah

[@jaayfpv13]

@@Rimzler And the Cinelog 20 could do both right?

[@jaayfpv13]

or does lack in Power, don’t think so 🤷‍♂️

[@Royfinix]

I'd love to see you rippin the Cinelog25 like this and also a comparison with the motors upgrade, I actually bought the Cinelog based on your review, love your videos bro. Keep it up!

[@Rimzler]

Guess I have to make a comparison then ahahahah Thanks for tuning in!

[@TheCivildecay]

Will there also be a non O3 version that can hold a action cam?

[@Rimzler]

Yes on the website there are different setups you can choose!

[@fede_fpv]

In all honesty, does it make sense to switch from Cinelog 20 (which I love) to Cinebot25?

[@Alf-Dee]

Not worth it imho. If you want to be sub250 with just the O3, they do the same thing 🤔

[@fede_fpv]

Of course, since I already have the Cinelog 20 which I feel great with, I just wanted to get an additional opinion. Thank you 😉

[@Rimzler]

I agree, they do the same thing with o3 only, you are pretty good already with the cinelog20

[@fede_fpv]

I was about to place an order but then thanks to you I thought better!!! Thank you 🙏🏻

[@DimmyV]

It looks like it fly really nice and smooth

[@Rimzler]

Yes one of the Best flying 2.5 so far

[@cbcooper5848]

Cinelog over Cinebot (25) if you are using a naked goPro? Looks like Cinebot is stronger, but if using do you think the mount on the Cinelog is better for the naked goPro?

[@Photonees]

what do you do with all those drones, you can almost start a GepRC store with all the ones they send you😅

[@Rimzler]

😂😂😂😂😂 so far I have kept them laying around for reference, some old ones get dismantled for parts, this cinematic ones I keep so I have redundancy on jobs! But yeah eventually I am planning to put them on a wall behind me😂

[@Scav1988]

I always enjoy your videos. Currently learning fpv hard with Simulator and my freaking old Skyzone V1 Analog Goggles with BetaFPV Meteor 75 Pro in my backyard. Currently saving for DJI Goggles and a First O3 Drone, do you have a recommendation with which model to continue my journey? I don't need a 5 inch or more drone.

[@Rimzler]

Thank you so much! What are your needs and plans? Do you need more outdoor freestyle, a cinewhoop, maybe something stealthy?

[@Scav1988]

@@Rimzler hey! Thanks for your kind response! Actually, I would like to fly with an cinewhoop capable to fly both indoor and outdoor. I currently enjoy to fly gaps with the meteor in my garden, like through small holes, under handrails etc. I guess the geprc cinebot 25 could be the right one, or the betaFPV pavo25 v2, because I really like the rigid carbon frame. I‘m not completely new to this hobby, but didn’t continue after 2016, before I was flying several own build 250/270 FPV drones, with pretty (now) old fcs like CC3D and naze32 with DSM2 receivers. It’s awesome how much everything improved in the meantime, having so much fun with even this little meteor75 pro.

[@Porculus]

Good review! The way I see it, between the Cinelog 25 and this new Cinebot 25, this one has a completely new design and construction philosophy. Just like the GepRC Darkstar 20, it uses the least amount of injection molded parts for rock-steady flying, light weight and most importantly, durability. Darkstar 20 has zero carbon in it... it's just an injection molded plastic frame and it's tough as nails. This new Cinebot 25 will be infinitely more durable than the Cinelog series. The Cinelog 20, Cinelog 25, and Cinelog 25 V2 all suffer from a somewhat weak duct design, due to the material used and the inability to dissipate energy to the entire frame, like in this new Cinebot 25 and the existing Darkstar 20. I have the Darkstar 20 and it just bounces off the wall or the ground like a tennis ball. It's so durable, it's ridiculous! Of course, being as light as it is, it has a huge advantage in lack of mass as well, which also helps the durablity. But back to the Cinebot 25. It would seem that GepRC have embraced injection molding since the Darkstar 20 and they are using that same advantage in this Cinebot 25 as well, wth the addition of a carbon top plate. They've strealined their design and construction process and I expect we'll see more and more injection molded models from them replacing the older models one by one.

[@Rimzler]

Yes ahahaha they probably bought some injection molding machinery and are having fun with it! I'm all for lighter and more resistant drones! This cinebot is very fine The darkstar has a tiny bit of jello in my tests, something I didn't expect from Geprc as they always are on point with their drones! Hope they release a lighter 2.5 inch at some point, but with no jello😂

[@cristian_c]

I can buy a drone each month, with so many releases :))

[@Rimzler]

Ahahhahah it's ridiculous lol, and all so similar

[@sethu.uumez-eronini7339]

With the DJI controller and multiple drones, will the binding process need to be done each time I want to fly a different drone?

[@DimmyV]

Checking the specs the Cinelog 25 is lighter by 10g +-

[@Rimzler]

Yes 5/10g lighter, I wish it was the opposite really, weight is always going up😭

[@DimmyV]

@@Rimzler I think they need make a lite version of the O3 to shed some weight because whole point of this unit is not an external camera. It can record good video in good lighting.

[@DrFrantic77]

Hi my friend, just bought the S version... if you put heatsink off an use 450mah lipo... u got a sub250.. but 450mah is not a long flight time 😅

[@pointblank1292]

LOL the cat

[@Rimzler]

That's one of my favs😂😂

[@tokke4]

that exists in 2,5 inch

[@Rimzler]

What do you mean?

[@tokke4]

sorry I think I mean that you have 2,5inch cinewhoop under 250g(naked GoPro included,nameless rc kit). Anyway did you tested with a naked GoPro on top? how is the yellow because its not soft mounted? thx and keep up the nice reviews! @@Rimzler

[@DoktorSkill]

Makes no sense that they release a new 2.5 inch cinewhoop haha. 2 Weeks ago i ordered the parts for my selfbuild cinelog 25 v2, i have a spare 40A AIO here (not from geprc) and because i can safe some money if i buy the o3 air unit myself i will build that drone myself. Will be my first 100% self build drone haha

[@andrewmedia3568]

Great review! I like that you really push the drones and fly them hard, not just cruising along. Most people will be doing some cruising type flights and acro so thats nice to see. I just bought the cinebot 2.5 s with the 15mm motors and some 4s GnB 720 Mah lipos. cant wait to fly this thing. 👍

[@popeye7833]

you have the S version ?

[@anas_almajed]

No, the non S version, you can see the motors are 1404

[@popeye7833]

@@anas_almajedso need the S version right ?

[@anas_almajed]

@@popeye7833 Not sure what you're asking, the S version is faster and more powerful, most likely you don't need that much power. but you can get the S version and reduce its power in betaflight. And whenever you feel the need to get more power you have that option

[@Rimzler]

No they didn't send the bigger motors, but be warned it's hardly gonna be sub250 with those

[@nabstman3548]

I've just discovered the world of FPV with the avata 2. I really like your channel and I'm becoming passionate about FPV. Your channel helps me a lot to have information, you gained a subscriber. I'm already getting tired of the Avata 2, I can't wait and I hope that the googles 3 with the remote controller 3 will be compatible with the O3. I'm already thinking of buying cinebot 25 and cinelog 35.

[@SpirusFilms]

how does this compare to the cinelog 25?

[@rfly-fpv]

Exactly my question :) Seems like it's not possible to have GPS on it :/ Cinelog25 v2 seems to be better to me

[@outboxfpv4360]

Hi sir is 03 connected via conectors or we have to solder it?

[@can5projects563]

Nice video buddy

[@Rimzler]

Thank you so much😍😍✈️

[@surreal_multimedia]

Would you compare this to the flylens85?

[@Rimzler]

Well if you are fine with o3, the flylens is so much smaller, silent and light compared to it, flies a little worse tho

[@surreal_multimedia]

@Rimzler thanks brother

[@kris-kb4vf]

bruttino, pero' e sembra molto simile al BetaFPV Pavo25 prima versione ... sempre bravo Rimzler e grazie per ver condiviso la tua esperienza 😊

[@Rimzler]

Ahahahhaha è questo grigio topo che non convince, un altro colore forse sarebbe stato più figo, grazie mille!☺️☺️

[@GetRoKd]

Do you think the Cinebot 25 s version would be able to fly a full size gopro or the DJI Osmo action 4 with a larger lipo like an 850mah?

[@Rimzler]

Yes, for sure, the pavo25 V2 can totally carry one! Just maybe a 3.5" I feel like would be a better choice, much more versatile

[@GetRoKd]

@@Rimzler love your reviews man! Keep it up and if you run out of space for your quads I have plenty of space on my wall 😂

[@GetRoKd]

@@Rimzler I would only use a full size action cam for indoor cinematic footage. A 3.5" quad would be too big for indoor use.

[@matkoobad]

thanks for review

[@Rimzler]

Thank you for tuning in☺️☺️☺️

[@hiyabughebresslasie5975]

Taking into consideration durability and stable flying indoors. Which one would you recommend, cinebot 25 or cinelog 25

[@thegadgetman2011]

What brand battery makes this a sub 250

[@Rimzler]

Drone is around 178g, if you looks in battery specs online you will find the weight of the battery listed, so you can know! 720mah 4s hv seems to be the limit

[@gofpv79]

pavo25도 좋은데 cinebot 25 매력적으로 보입니다. 소음은 pavo25보다 작은 느낌이에요~

[@Rimzler]

Pavo 25 is heavier and hardly sub250 that's why makes more noise, but the direct comparison has to be made with the bigger motor version of the cinebot25, which will be similar weight! I believe the cinebot is better as it has no jello and the o3 camera is fully accessible, so you can remove SD card

[@TateDK]

this one fly VERY GOOD

[@Rimzler]

Yessir ahahah pretty good one😍

[@JensEser]

@rimzler which one would you choose to fly with a naked GoPro, the Cinelog25 or this Cinebot25?

[@gluino]

Does either of CB25 or CL25 include GPS and BARO? How about DarkStar20?

[@rokiesinclair]

Whenever i see your channel, i do always love waiting for chasing video of chicken, cats, or dog hahahah. Thanks for the great video

[@pginaeemidris2069]

Boom💥

[@dimasoktova1724]

Amazing

[@Rimzler]

Thank you!☺️☺️

[@chunkit78]

Cinebot25 or DarkStar20? I have been flying in liftoff for more than 50 hours with radiomaster boxer, and mobula 6 in acro mode for 2 months plus. The reason I am getting cinewhoop is because I will be flying indoor and for safety purpose since it comes with prop guards, and not ready for extreme stunts moves at the moment. 1. Do u guys think I should get the cinebot25 S or DarkStar20? Or any better choice for beginner? 2. Is the Integra Goggles still a good choice for now? Since Goggles 3 dont support O3 air unit and Integra's price has reduced. Thanks in advance!

[@KevFPV]

Chickens 🐓🐓🐓

[@lcprod]

Carino

[@Rimzler]

Molto ahahah, mi fa ridere che sia uscito a due mesi dal cinelog lol

[@lcprod]

@@Rimzlerha per caso la marcatura di categoria ?

[@SananeKardesim-e3y]

hi there , thanks for the review. it's very helpful. i intend to buy a sub250 gr. (strickly sub 250gr with gps module and nd filter) drone but i can't choose. i'm planning to fly mainly outdoor , so 2.5inch would be better i guess. do you have any recommendations ? Thank you

[@dronetecbrasil]

Ragazzo...CineBot 25 or Cinelog 25 v.2?

[@Juanpg2705]

Hey man thanks for the video. Such great content!!! - Could you please recommend me a O3 cinewhoop for beginners? I have put around 15 hours on a sim and I feel ready to get my first FPV drone. I want a cinewhoop that works with the DJI O3 unit. I been looking into the Pavo pico, the darkstar 20, Mobula8. They are all around the same price and are so similar, I dont know which one to choose. I want to do mainly what you do in your test videos: cinematic fly around the backyard/park, with occasional tricks, but nothing crazy. I appreciate it!

[@Rimzler]

Go with the Flywoo flylens if you want 2s, for a little more power get the Pavo 20, so far this are the only drones that don't have jello in my tests

[@Juanpg2705]

@@Rimzler thanks a lot for your answer brother! I really appreciate it. I also saw your video on the Pavo20 and I am deciding between the two. If you don’t mind answering: is there any advantage to buying the already assembled Flylens 85 kit (with O3 installed) vs buying the drone and the O3 separate? The price difference is considerable ($460 already installed VS $385 separate). Thanks again for your time

[@Cinoo90]

Goggles are not fogging?

[@Rimzler]

Every now and then I smear a tiny bit of shaving cream and then wipe it off, works wonders!

[@Cinoo90]

@@Rimzler must be fans not working hard enough 😂 v2 no problem at all

[@semadragun]

Would have been nice to see you actually fly it the way it's supposed to be flown. Every content creator keeps thrashing these things freestyle i just don't get it, it's a Cinewhoop amigo. Still appreciate your review though thanks..just that erratic flying kills me.

[@stefaniealtenkirch167]

Promo*SM

[@thegadgetman2011]

How do they make the antenna reach all the way from the 03 unit to where it sits? I'm trying to put one together now and mine isnt long enough. Many thanks, love your channel

[@Rimzler]

I just opened it and they made an extension inside so you are right, it's a couple of ufl connector male to female, maybe you can find them on AliExpress