Rincon Fire Dept 6,000ft. Hose Lay using TurboDrafts

Rincon Fire Department 6,000ft. Hose Lay using dual Turbodrafts on 10-29-2014. Rincon Fire Dept. is located in Rincon ,GA in Effingham County.

[@ChuckBeefOG]

Some say that they are still packing the hose back up to this day.

[@fuck12601]

Gilbert McGillicutty I can fold his with a good puller in under three hours

[@bkgill88]

Gilbert McGillicutty we used a HOSE MULE to load it.

[@asherdie]

1_foxtrot_01 and shirley replies " yes it will"

[@ding0925]

the pumps on those trucks will push water alot farther than that..

[@jondalle1332]

1_foxtrot_01 you can get about 2 miles on only 300 psi. out of the pump

[@NeilLB7]

We've laid 1200' of 5" out at 55mph. On a 4 lane highway. We found very positive way to secure the hose end since that day. After having loaded 5" hose for 20 years....there isn't any fire I wanna put out that bad as to lay out 6000' at once. LOL. I'll use tankers and say I did the best I could. Seriously, this is amazing. Good work.

[@dionbritten]

5 minutes to deploy 12 years to wrap up pretty damn impressive

[@taofledermaus]

Dammit, 20 feet short.

[@pws3rd170]

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[@hammerlane3871]

drove through the other day, they're still packing it up.....

[@pws3rd170]

@@hammerlane3871 lol im dead

[@hammerlane3871]

that sounds like a problem, may I recommend a doctor lol

[@TwistDraw]

Just pull the slack

[@richrandall5146]

Good day to be on vacation or out of town.....

[@danieljmaguire]

Whoever had to reroll and test and repack that hose is the true hero of this video.

[@aaronshoemaker1282]

OH MY GOD IT MUST HAVE TAKEN HOURS TO RE RACK THAT

[@bkgill88]

Rincon Fire purchased a tool called a Hose Mule that mounts to the truck and picks the hose up for you. Check it out on youtube

[@hassananwaar6233]

Any link for the video u mention

[@angeloromeo8066]

Aaron Shoemaker aren't they packing it by hand at the end??

[@bradybrady3501]

Aaron Shoemaker holy s can u imagine

[@oscarmuffin4322]

I think the "Hose Mule" is just a big pulley that the hose runs over then the guy in the back has to spead it all out so it doesn't get tangled.

[@brushrescue1701]

6000 feet of hose that is just absolutely brilliant. What an awesome sight and by the looks of things quite a good working pressure to

[@brycehamilton9604]

*never mind guys we dont need it anymore *

[@aaronshoemaker1282]

bryce hamilton lmao!!

[@nathanzittle3822]

*Throws Radio Out the Window*

[@MsFiregal8]

Nathan Zittle after taking haligan and sawzall to it. "Chief it just fell..damn cheap radios

[@nathanzittle3822]

MsFiregal8 It's those new damn Motorola's that central gave us

[@ChristopherBong]

Ouh damn, that’ll be sad

[@dirtyhyena]

Holy smokes.... Seeing that much hose deployed almost made me want to cry with the thought of loading it all back up.

[@jmnj1983]

Firefighter: I got your supply line. Firefighter 2: no need we took care of it on tank water. 😬

[@lllllRBlllll]

That's pretty neat, never seen a hose truck before. In the rural area around here we're allowed to have very big water trucks that can hold 45,000 liters so usually when there's a fire, farmers will arrive with those trucks and that will supply enough water.

[@christwohill4569]

"Engine 4 from command..." "Go ahead..." "Engine 4 we needed that supply laid northbound and I have you heading southbound..." "@#$%&"

[@Dirigo207]

+chris twohill just grab the end and haul ass the other way

[@Wruff]

lol

[@scottrjmatmsncom]

chris twohill I hurt myself laughing at what you said.

[@jmnj1983]

chris twohill lol. Awesome.

[@MsFiregal8]

chris twohill Still laughing 3 years later 🔥👩

[@Grisu1805]

I'm amazed that you can lay 6000 ft without needing a "booster pump" in between. Also, I wouldn't want to be the one who has to pack it up at the end, put them back down at the station to let them dry, and back up on the rig when dry (assuming you let them dry).

[@DominiDiscord]

Thankfully we've been able to pack house wet for the last 10 years

[@monkeyoperator1360]

@@DominiDiscord still can't pack it frozen though

[@DominiDiscord]

@@monkeyoperator1360 fair point.

[@godzillawashere]

its videos like this that make me so thankful that are departments pump has two large reels on the back

[@rc4x417]

That was very therapeutic to watch. Thank you!

[@emorychamberlain7142]

As an explorer myself I can confirm that this would be our job. Welcome to the brotherhood.

[@Dozer355]

Feel bad bad for whoever has to pack that back up..

[@Blastable]

i i feel feel bad bad too too..

[@KyleSoldani]

Whew! I get pissy when it takes half an hour to load our couple thousand feet of LDH, I don't want to imagine 6.

[@scottrjmatmsncom]

This was way more entertaining than it should have been.

[@lancebickle4042]

*gets to the end* Oh wait guys..theres a hydrant right here

[@LeSedici]

"Alright, hose is stretched, flow water" 5 minutes later.....drip drip drip lol

[@ki4nge4]

How did you Dry it all ?? Or just put it up wet ? (that what she said)

[@shutemdwn]

Wow, I thought this video was going to be boring and was wondering why it was "recommended". That was interesting though. Damn that's a lot of hose. Also impressive that they can pump that much water with sufficient pressure all that distance.

[@metalhead6788]

Welcome to hell probie

[@kevinjohnson85]

i know right

[@Jacob-gq7id]

All I could think about was the poor bastard they were gonna make repack that bed.

[@jamesbomb1741]

Haven't seen anyone mention it but it's funny to see how little a large portions of the LDH is not used noting the dust because there so much hose.

[@mr.moostache6740]

Not a firefighter, got a question though. The line is obviously laid more than a mile; my understanding is that friction loss increases with distance. Wouldn't the pump on the receiving end have inadequate pressure?

[@ChristopherBong]

Wonder how much water pressure it takes to push water thru that hose?

[@matthewprioli-baader8451]

What flow (gpm) were you flowing, and how much residual pressure did you have? The friction loss on 6,000 feet of 5" hose, regardless of elevation changes, is quite significant.

[@padseven]

The maximum they could flow would be roughly 550 GPM. 550 GPM would create a friction loss of 150 psi over the 6000 ft lay!

[@DudefromVT]

Not to play youtube armchair firegod, but at that speed don't you have issues with stress on the couplings? A department I was on had an engine that lost a load of LDH (2400ft) on a highway at 50ish mph and we had to toss or cut down quite a few lengths of hose that were either stretched and compromised or had couplings that were compromised. Also, the thought of repacking 6000 ft of LDH makes me nauseous. I hope you guys have a lot of probies.

[@WilliamSeibertwillis923]

i was thinking that myself. seems like they were laying that way too fast. faster than i would have anyway.

[@bkgill88]

No, the department had a letter from American Hose Co. stating that it was safe and approved by the manufacturer to be laid at no faster that 35mph.

[@geralddeus9840]

Zack Borst

[@bbgun061]

I calculated the speed at about 30mph.

[@williamuskoski1385]

Benjamin Brooks how? by counting hay bales?

[@bkgill88]

35mph

[@ceedaddy]

Hey Great job and We Thank You for your service and Saving Lives......BE SAFE.....!!!!

[@goutvols103]

By my calculations, that is about right but it sure seems longer.

[@bkgill88]

Jenny Chapman 6k

[@ffmedcbk1]

what was the GPM during the ops? what was the total gallons pumped. Do you have a link for the details?

[@higherperspectivephotography]

Do the recruits get to flake the hose again?

[@MegaBigdaddy1998]

Curious question, would the pumper create enough pressure to push the water all the way through 6000 feet of hose and still maintain 100+ psi of pressure at the other end?

[@zachshouse3214]

Yep. That would be a "one-time use" disposable hose lol. Strong work fellas

[@biggie2591]

Commander : Dang boys,the mule hose break down. Time to pack and roll the hose manually. Boys : .....

[@bkgill88]

Biggie the hose mule was purchased after the first two test runs. It did suck loading 6k manually

[@TexasFire_Cross]

In this 2-pumper relay operation, they could theoretically lay 9,200 ft of 5 in between the water source pumper and the fire attack pumper ... and still get 185 psi operating pressure while maintaining 500 gpm (from a hydrant, according to Fire Apparatus Magazine) www.fireapparatusmagazine.com/articles/print/volume-19/issue-7/features/comparing-four-and-five-inch-large-diameter-hose.html

[@wifighostcruiser9665]

HOLY COW! WHY? How many years does it take somebody to put all that hose back in the truck?

[@Doc_Rainbow]

how can you hold the pressure with one engine? here in Germany we got SW2000 its a Engine with 2000 meters Horse lines onbord but we need to put a pump like every 500 meters to get the Pressure steady?!

[@brianjirish]

Please tell me someone doesnt have to hand pack that hose back in the truck? LOL I would think some fire department would have a machine for that by now? Man that was an awesome video!!!!!! Keep up the good work and BE SAFE!!!!!!!!

[@bkgill88]

If you watch until the end of the video it shows how the department picks the hose up. They use a tool called the Hose Mule

[@TheTwitterpatedlove]

is the hose mule 7 guys and a truck?

[@banditdog1162]

What was the compound pressure at the receiving apparatus? Thanks

[@southronjr1570]

I will never complain about hose testing days ever again after seeing what those guys have to load back up now. I do hope they at least tested it then while they had it off the truck

[@SuperJuiceman11]

can the on board pump push that much hose?

[@billywood895]

My question is unless you have tandem engines picking up, how in the hell can you flow water that far with one truck?

[@bkgill88]

Billy just think of it as an underground water main, We as firefighters are so engrained that their is no new way to do things. The probability of people saying you need a engine in line to boost pressure have probably never practiced or even tried it. This practice does work in the geographical area for this department. Should it be standardized, no but it does work and should be considered for departments as a new and alternative and cheaper way to lower ISO.

[@NeilLB7]

5" hose has very little friction loss for fire flow rates. Even compared to 4" hose...the LDH 5" is far, far superior. I've also recently seen 10" LDH at FDIC 2016. Now that's something to see. The truck was specially designed to winch it back on.

[@davekauffmanjr2069]

NeilLB7 very little friction loss? Wow,I'd have thought it would be a ton,what is this LDH hose? I've been retired from fire fighting for more than 20 years,hell I've been disabled for 25 this year,,,,got I just realized I am old,and 10" ? Jesus....we had just gotten 4" for out telesquirt when I left,and we all thought that was huge lol

[@MsFiregal8]

Dave Kauffman Jr getting old and off the line sucks, doesn't it! Hope you can still have an active life with your disability Tjanks for your yeats of service .what dept? Been disabled for 10yeats myself..from CFD

[@eligebrown8998]

Billy Wood pumps

[@ponchola]

Those breaks are going to give every crew member tinnitus if they have to hear that for the entire time they creep along at 3mph picking up a mile of hose.

[@vladen14]

Excuse me for asking, I don't really know much about fire hoses but I work in job where I have to do with pipes and pressures and stuff like that. So I'm guessing this was like a 5" hose...how on earth can one truck create such an enomous pressure to come up for all these friction losses of a 6000ft hose?!

[@seriousdopamine4404]

Did they source water directly from that lake?

[@mechcntr7185]

Is the pump powerful enough to push water through over a mile of hose? The firetruck seemed to be going too fast during the lay process, if there had been a snag or other issue with the hose, people could have been injured or equipment damaged.

[@Mark-sp4wo]

That was cool... How are they going to put it back?

[@dcentral]

Driving that fast doesn't damage the hose when it drops, especially the metal connection points that hit the asphalt hard?

[@bkgill88]

No, the department had a letter from American Hose Co. stating that it was safe and approved by the manufacturer to be laid at no faster that 35mph.

[@evanmarcisz712]

bkgill88 ever heard of friction loss? Do the math on this and then you'll start to realize why tandem pumping would probably be necessary for this operation.... I haven't done the math yet but with most hoses rated to 300psi, I'm sure the pressure would have to be increased somewhere along the hose lay to prevent blowing lines and to get the proper pressure to the end of the hose

[@bkgill88]

I assure you it's only 6,000ft. I was driving the firetruck.

[@bkgill88]

Yes, we know the "friction loss' formulas and calculations do not add up for this operation. tandem pumping was needed for the operation. Read some of the other comments, especially from long4400 and I think some of your questions have already been answered in the comments.

[@g.r7255]

I was thinking that that has to be one hellva a pumper back there at the start. No place along the lay was another booster.

[@jiveturkey9993]

How long does it take to pack that thing?

[@georgemessler3345]

Back 0n June 30th 2022 we laid 6000 feet of ldh to the Norwich transfer statiion fire after using a tanker shuttle in the beginning but we had an engine tied into the hydrant so it was being pushed up the hill. No idea who did the pick up because we were released a little earlier. "Water came from 10 different tanker trucks, Eyeburse said. Firefighters had changed their strategy by Thursday evening. Firefighters had established a relay with 6,000 feet of 5-inch hose stretched from a hydrant on Otrobando Avenue to the fire, with several pumper trucks helping to move the water. The move replaced the need for a tanker relay."

[@The1NdNly]

I wonder how much water it takes to fill the hose, its gotta be alot!

[@ffjsb]

I think that was a bit too fast to deploy that hose. I think you're putting serious stress on the coupling connections, and there's quite an impact when they hit the pavement. Nice exercise, but I'd slow the hose wagon down.

[@christufts5286]

+ffjsb I believe for the certification, they needed to have a certain flow within a certain time frame. Slowing down over that distance could cause a significant delay in having a supply established

[@ffjsb]

+Chris 131 Yeah, but if you trash all your hose, it kinda defeats the purpose. Adding a couple of tankers would help, as well as establishing certified water sources such as ponds with dry hydrants. Part of the ISO is also testing hose every year, and that's a LOT of hose to test.

[@BoBo-tn5wp]

ffjsb I bet if your life was in danger you'd want them to not give a damn about a hose!

[@ffjsb]

Hey dumbass, if my life was in danger, a 6,000" supply line is not going to save it. You clearly don't know shit about firefighting or hose lays. If you don't have anything intelligent to say, run along.

[@BoBo-tn5wp]

Hey Bitch Ass, I have plenty of fire fighting experience and I hope u burn in hell

[@stephengrant8078]

Did this include the ponylengths of ldh?

[@robertsilva1016]

Is there a forest fire somewhere that's why they're pulling out all the hose it is so big and so thick

[@jamesleedy658]

Laying 6000' of hose is no problem using it is no big deal the problem comes when it is packed back on the rigs, our department had a 1948 Maxim pumper that carried over 2500' of 2 1/2" with room for more, this truck stayed in service untill the late 70's one hell of a truck

[@smokechecktim7430]

How long to dry all that hose

[@casperxmapop5853]

What kind of situation would demand such a long hose outside of training?

[@brianballa3086]

wow never seen that before .... thank's for sharing that cool

[@jackstultz3531]

our engine carries 1500' and it squats pretty bad as is i can only imagine the suspention is loving that... also ive experienced 3000' lays with a bad hydrant and needless to say 6000' would be really really bad if you dont have enough engines to progressivly boost your pressure... just wow im watching this knowing id hate to be the one to clean it up, good video!

[@attiladavalovsky4232]

whats the frictions loss rate for 6000ft?

[@christopherfisher6293]

The kit to the left of the picture needs a stronger support to prevent movement and metal fatigue.

[@Jcool2018]

Fuck that. Just set up a few dump tanks and have everyone and their twin brother dumping water from a few water points.

[@bkgill88]

Jcool2018 Jim Briggs This is a drill for ISO to 1. prove that the lay works without using relay pumping, and 2. To lower the rating for the homeowner outside the distance of a certified water source. The department isn’t stating this should be standard, but it’s a new way of operating and it works for this particular district. The thought is with budgets in mind is a used engine that carries 6k ft of hose is far cheaper than buying several tenders, equipment and 24 hour coverage to man them. This operation is only 3 personnel when setting up and 2 once complete leaving more personnel for suppression.

[@shades9721]

this might be a dumb question, but what if you don’t need exactly 6000 feet? What if the fire is, say, 4500 feet away from the source? Do you take some of the lengths of hose out of the truck before setting off, or take a longer, wriggly path, or find the closest connection point along the line and disconnect it there?

[@jayffemt]

You drive to the scene laying out hose, and then disconnect where needed, leaving the other 1500' on the truck.

[@jacobsmith6355]

How long did it take to wrap up

[@mruppity64]

What are the yellow/white barrel type objects at the side of the road? That's some hose laying

[@Cruzrss]

Those are bales of cotton

[@PedroMartinezinlaquesh]

i wonder, how much weight on the hoses only🤨

[@railman2015]

gosh damn, how fast was he going when he was ripping hose off that truck?

[@bkgill88]

The department had a letter from American Hose Co. stating that it was safe and approved by the manufacturer to be laid at no faster that 35mph.

[@erikjohnson7221]

Is that strictly a hose truck?

[@thisnthat5406]

8 years later and I heard the crew is still out there packing it up

[@jimbriggs1163]

What is the point? How many fire department would have to go that far to hook up a hydrant?

[@bkgill88]

Jim Briggs This is a drill for ISO to 1. prove that the lay works without using relay pumping, and 2. To lower the rating for the homeowner outside the distance of a certified water source. The department isn’t stating this should be standard, but it’s a new way of operating and it works for this particular district. The thought is with budgets in mind is a used engine that carries 6k ft of hose is far cheaper than buying several tenders, equipment and 24 hour coverage to man them. This operation is only 3 personnel when setting up and 2 once complete leaving more personnel for suppression.

[@andrewhagerstrom332]

what was ur out put pressure vs in take at the other end 2 stage pump? in volume or pressure?

[@hamiltonharper]

I can't even be arsed to coil my garden hose. Can't imagine how long it would take to repack that.

[@stronzer59]

would there even be enough water in that lake to fill that hose?

[@SanSimonFireDistrict]

What was the gpm at the end of the lay?

[@pascalhumphrey]

is that much hose really needed?

[@NotfallsRene]

6.000ft? Without any supporting pumps on the way?

[@bkgill88]

just think of it as an underground water main, We as firefighters are so engrained that their is no new way to do things. The probability of people saying you need a engine in line to boost pressure have probably never practiced or even tried it. This practice does work in the geographical area for this department. Should it be standardized, no but it does work and should be considered for departments as a new and alternative and cheaper way to lower ISO.

[@cullinmcgraw7834]

if you look closly you can see the dust fly off the hose as it goes

[@WindseekerWX]

Hats off to whoever repacked that hose. I’d say screw it and call for tankers before I lay all that hose

[@davee6406]

Chief: “Time to repack the hose bed rookie!" Rookie: "Get fucked chief"

[@franksauvageot9381]

What is that like 56 hoses into one

[@bouchee2007]

How does that not break a coupler when it lands

[@EightiesTV]

1:24 original Star Trek red alert But more seriously, that hose is going to take 6,000 gallons to fill up and charge. If you can tap 1,000gpm from that hydrant, that's 6 minutes to wait for the water to get there.

[@penguin4587]

A mile length of hose with no engine in the middle of it, pretty impressed

[@jamesmorton8431]

How long does it take to pick 6000 ft of hose back up?

[@burienite]

Holy crap! You'd actually have to factor in some friction loss in that amount of LDH!

[@nemo227]

The important question: did they put out the fire and minimize damage? Or did the fire burn itself out?

[@bkgill88]

nemo227 I completely understand your view, and it's a valid point since it does take some time to set up the hose lay but the point of the hose lay is to 1. Establish a continuous water supply in non-hydrant areas when needed, 2. This test lowered ISO ratings from a 9 to a 3 in this district, and let's not forget that the fire attack engines and crews are initially putting water on the fire while this is being set up.

[@nemo227]

Yes, indeed, I saw at the beginning that they were working on the fire and laying the hose was like bringing in reinforcements. It's frustrating to have to go so far for water and a tanker truck has such a limited supply. I'm not a fire fighter but I have put out a house fire, a truck fire, and a printing shop fire. I was fortunate to catch them while they were small. The three things I learned in my many years: 1. it's easier to extinguish small fires, 2. move fast because fires don't wait for you, 3. small fires grow into big fires. God bless the fire fighters. They save us from injury, death, property loss, and terrible misery every day.

[@mtaylor017]

So please tell me how long it took to re rack that!!!

[@AoSRejects]

There has to be almost to pressure in that hose when it reaches the other truck.

[@wolfgang548]

After this, the chief was like, " Okay. Can I have a volunteer to repack the hose?"

[@imautuber]

how the hell did they get those engines the exact hose length distance apart ?

[@imautuber]

someone needs to invent water over WiFi !

[@bkgill88]

imautuber444 it was measured out with a roller wheel

[@kaylor87]

imautuber444 Lol, I was wondering the same thing.... Even properly measured out, you'd think there's gotta be a pretty large margin of error with how uneven that hose is laying down... Guess not?

[@Helix_22]

kaylor87 engine was in front up ahead at a rally point. They talk over CB guy in the hose truck is over watching hose length and can radio back roughly how much is left...good knowledge and communication.

[@lennytompkins9767]

Tape measure.

[@CaptainLee]

When you thought a 1000ft on FDNY satellites were long.

[@josephfriedrich9792]

You hit record right?

[@tracynshea1333]

I can’t imagine the friction loss in a 6000 ft lay!

[@stevepotthast4911]

Assuming a flow of 500 GPM the friction loss would be 120 psi.

[@luisurrutia9785]

120 psi a 500gpm en 6000ft??

[@Jammog123]

1.1 miles of line. my god. How can you even pump that?

[@brandonhanna2784]

what's the pump on the engine pumping water through hose

[@bkgill88]

Brandon Hanna All the trucks are 2,000 GPM

[@RedRacconKing]

when did like long hoses become a thing?

[@291xMac]

We only laid 1800 2 nights ago out our engine and it sucked picking that up.

[@MATT_96]

How far is the water man?!