RioRand 400W Brushless Motor Controller Demo

[@FeetLegal]

The best video I've seen regarding a brushless motor controller. Very thorough and covered the braking and reversing very well, some thing my project needs. I love that he used his logic analyzer to see the speed pulse output. I think where was one minor thing. I think you meant to say that there are 45 rising edges "per REVOLUTION". I thought I heard you say "per SECOND".

[@mad-ee]

Thanks Rick! Yeah I probably said that wrong, thanks for the correction.

[@jtx5868]

Hey Rick , i have problem and i think you're the right person to solve my problem , so i my problem i want to control 2 brashless motor with tow different controller but each of motor turn in reverse direction so i need help😅

[@patrickrobanske9221]

This video is a godsend. Elected to use this controller for a school project without putting much thought into it and have been unable to to find much documentation.

[@kantpredict]

This was a highly informative video and cleared up a lot of the information I needed for this board. I've been trialing a different board type that was smaller but didn't have an active brake pin and the reverse took time to happen which are terrible for robotics control. So thanks!

[@whitneydesignlabs8738]

Very cool. My initial testing with the yellow hall-less version of this board and the hoverboard motors is going well. Next I want to figure out how to use a pwm input signal. Your demonstration of the speed output signal will be helpful later, because now we could create a closed loop feedback system using motor speed monitored by microcontroller.

[@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3]

This video was very helpful. I have the zs-x11b. It also came with no paperwork. I really wish these Pn on the chips weren’t rubbed off. I never thought to use the logic analyzer to figure out my hall sensors. I was going to use trial and error. I really wish I had 2 of these. Great Video.

[@michaelpole7287]

Hi there, great videos and blog. I have 2 hoverboard motors and 2 zs-11h drivers, both working fine with 10k pots individually. My question is how can I control both drivers using a thumb throttle? or split the signal to both drivers in someway? is that where a Arduino would have to be used? I'm sure a dual pot would work but I require a thumb throttle for my trike project. Any thoughts friend 👍

[@propheteyebert7063]

You should be able to connect the center lead of the pot to both hoverboards with a splitter cable.

[@Hennesii]

Hi! So I made the wheels work with the small blue potentiometer, but I want to use a remote control. Where do I plug the 3 wires for the Remote control to work? the red/yellow/black wires. pls help

[@lilikrosecobain4272]

can it be tested using a servo tester?

[@Heron31415]

thanks for the video. Is there any limitation when connecting two or more drivers in the scheme? Do I need to put splitter diodes on the power input, ground, etc.?

[@Arne1998]

Probably a dumb question but you need two of these controllers to control two hoverboard wheels right?

[@MyLearner1]

My motor is 36 V but it started smoking smoking randomly? I followed your wiring diagram in the video. I looped 1 and 3 to get the motor to turn around. It did not work.:

[@polymexdf69]

Can a 24v battery make it work

[@automacnc86]

Hi, thanks for good work. How do we get these pulse outputs to arduino and see actual speed? and even have cruise control ??

[@nikeal1856]

Is possible ti use this circuit without the decoder pins ??

[@AaedMusa]

Very helpful video, I was wondering if it’s possible to connect the pwm pin to an arduino and control it like that?

[@mad-ee]

Yes it is possible. That is going to be one of my next videos.

[@AaedMusa]

@@mad-ee Awesome! I'm currently working on a project with the same speed controllers and was wondering if I could do that. Looking forward to future videos!

[@amoselindo]

@@mad-ee It works? Were you able to use an Arduino?

[@tomassimaro6795]

Can you change direction with PMW?

[@AaedMusa]

@@tomassimaro6795 Not exactly. PWM sets speed only. This BLDC controller has a direction terminal that goes in one direction when connected to ground and goes in another direction when not connected to ground.

[@geartech3860]

If I wanted to power a 3 phase motor or 3 phase with the common without hall sensors will this board work?

[@murraymadness4674]

Can you pulse the brake signal to slow down? From what I've seen it stops it very abruptly which is what happens if you short the phases. I have one of these but if pulsing it blows it up, I don't want to buy another one.

[@NeoFrontierTechnologies]

Useful video. Do you know if this module can also work in sensorless ( no hull sensors connected ) mode ?

[@rohan3_official]

Amazing, very nice... can I control this wirelessly with a wireless remote!!?

[@vinodkumar.p7800]

Hello sir, Am using raspibery pi to control the BLDC motor using same driver. One thing is it's works fine using potentiometer provided in motor driver circuit. But if i use code to control through Raspberry pi it's not working. Code has no error.

[@rohan3_official]

Can we connect the board with arduino

[@davidandrews8566]

Hi I am a bit late to the party but this great content. I noticed there is an unconnected white wire coming from the axle what is its fuction?

[@tasken92]

do you happen to know why motor goes 100% speed in forward but not 100% when changing direction pin? seems like motor only goes 50% when dir pin is high much thanks!

[@propheteyebert7063]

Fwd and rev speed is the same, when everything is wired correctly.

[@raymondhardman7286]

I have the same problem

[@propheteyebert7063]

@@raymondhardman7286 The solution is to try all 6 coil wiring sequences. The correct one will run smoothly in both directions.

[@ivanarakistainmarkina385]

Is it compatible with 3.3V PWM signal from Raspberry GPIO?

[@vinodkumar.p7800]

Am using raspibery pi to fed input to Rio rand motor controller to run hub motor. But it's not running

[@srnunan4783]

What limits the lowest running speed? Can it be turned down so it is not turning but still delivering some small current?

[@lewisirvine8065]

Does anyone know if i can get forwards and reverse over the pwm? Wanting yo connect to RC receiver.

[@alain8955]

Hi guy. Thanks. I don't understand how to analyse the signal. It would be easier to count the hall effect sensor impulses by round....

[@mad-ee]

I have added some information on analyzing the signal on my blog. You can check it out here: mad-ee.com/easy-inexpensive-hoverboard-motor-controller/#speedpulseoutput

[@replicante1214]

Can this controller work with a 24VDC brushless motor? For example, 57BLR70-24-02?

[@charleyboy74]

can you plug Rc kit into this ?

[@paveldrobny7219]

Hi can for me make remote hover bord ?

[@josaxtvc]

I'm trying to read that speed pin with an Arduino but the smallest interval I can get is 1ms. Any ideas on how I would get better precision?

[@josaxtvc]

Ha, never mind. I forgot to use pulseIn().

[@zenvent]

Hello, is there a need for the hall sensors for the motor to function? I was going to try RioRand 380W 5-50V PWM DC Brushless Electric Motor Speed Controller with Hall-Less

[@mad-ee]

I think if you get the hall-less version of the board it should still be able to run the motor. I have not tested this so I can not verify if it works.

[@ajhnubia]

How are you going to control the other wheel, use the direction switch or re wire the motor ?

[@mad-ee]

I'm using a 2nd brushless motor controller and just using the direction switch so it turns the opposite direction.

[@andrewkennett940]

Any idea what would make the motor noisy? Its working but Im getting a sound that sounds like gear teeth meshing. I have tried it with multiple motors and still sounds the same.

[@propheteyebert7063]

The Hall sensors are not connected in the proper sequence. It will waste a lot of power.

[@nextday9033]

Hi. Thank you for the very helpful video.

[@mad-ee]

Thanks, I have a new version of the video that reviews the new version of the board. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaO1n5KrdrWUrZo

[@overbuiltautomotive1299]

thank you 200 amp range is what i am looking fer 8s-12s range i guess.no on to watching rest of video thanks ansd be blessed . i would love to find a person close to knoxville tn to learn a bit from thats into cool stuff in this area of expertise

[@mak3321]

It would still run without the hall effect sensor connected right?

[@tomassimaro6795]

Mine doesn't work without de sensor. I've the same model...

[@mad-ee]

They do make a version of the board that is hall-less. I have not tested it so I don't know how well it works. Here is a link to the hall-less version: amzn.to/3kMJovL

[@williammuff5485]

Do you know the name of the connectors for the 3 phase motor wires?

[@mad-ee]

I believe they are called Bullet Connectors: amzn.to/3nIeKWr

[@nuggetczsk]

Hello what value should be the external potenciometr?

[@MrClosetmonkey2011]

10k

[@nuggetczsk]

@@MrClosetmonkey2011 thanx

[@mad-ee]

10K is a good value but any value between 1K and 100K should work.

[@Elberto71]

When I use an external twist potentiometer, the motor won't stop, it always runs at very low rpm and goes really fast when you rev it.

[@alain8955]

Hi. I'm searching how to write on arduino a code to have rpm from this output pin

[@mad-ee]

I'm working on a new video about this. I just found out that there is a new version of the board and I'm waiting to receive it before finishing the video.

[@alain8955]

I'm asking if it's necessary to connect grounds between PWM signal, RPM signal and brake, allow, reverse pins.

[@mad-ee]

@@alain8955 You will need at least one ground connection between the PWM controller board and the Arduino.

[@mad-ee]

@@alain8955 I just published a blog post with some Arduino code to control the PWM and read the speed. Check it out here: mad-ee.com/controlling-a-hoverboard-motor-with-a-simple-arduino/

[@williammuff5485]

thanks for this video! Do you think the 5v rail on the speed controller could power and Arduino?

[@mad-ee]

I've seen two versions of the board shown in the video. The old version, which is in the video, has a large on board 5V regulator. It should be plenty big to supply power to an Arduino, and I have done this on one of my projects. They have reduced the size of the 5V regulator on the newer version of the board. It should still be able to power an Arduino but you will have less head room. I have tested this on the new version on my bench and it does work.

[@Billy18bm]

@@mad-ee waiting til Jan for some to come from over seas :-(

[@mad-ee]

@@Billy18bm Yeah the electronic supply chain is really messed up right now. Long lead times everywhere.

[@williammuff5485]

@@mad-ee i just got mine in. It's funny the 5v rail your hooking into with your switches is labeled "STOP" (there is also brake/dir next to that). Also i don't see any jumper and the "PWM" pinout is labeled 0-5v. I'm not clear how to turn off the POT and also not clear if it can take PWM even though it's not labeled as such.

[@mad-ee]

@@williammuff5485 They changed the design of the board. I have information on the new design on my blog: mad-ee.com/easy-inexpensive-hoverboard-motor-controller/

[@djmrozinski]

Did you have any problem with the board going to sleep after about 5 seconds when using PWM?

[@mad-ee]

I have not seen this behavior. Are you saying the motor spun for 5 seconds and then stopped? Could be a power issue.

[@djmrozinski]

Didn’t stop during operation. Running it with PWM, when I would stop the PWM signal after about 5 seconds the controller would stop. Would need to lift the PWM signal and reconnect to get to be active again.

[@williammuff5485]

@@djmrozinski ever figure this out?

[@RizHassan]

In your application, I see no use for an encoder. What I was hoping to see, if you can achieve positional control with PWM input.

[@mad-ee]

The hoverboard motors I use don't have any built in encoders, so it would be difficult to do position control with them. Although it may be possible to do a sudo position control by monitoring the hall sensors and counting their transitions. You would need a way to home it and I'm not sure how accurate the positioning would be. The PWM control doesn't act like a servo control where the position can be controlled by the pulse width. On this controller the duty cycle of the PWM signal only controls the speed of the motor where 0% duty cycle (railed low) stops the motor and 100% duty cycle (railed high) would be full speed. A 50% duty cycle should drive the motor at half speed.

[@dieutownsmith1668]

Are these ON/ON switches Or ON/Off..?

[@dieutownsmith1668]

The Toggle switches?

[@nachumtwersky7206]

Hey I’m not sure if you’re still responding to comments, but I was wondering you you can attach an absolute encoder to this board, to get positioning. If you attach this board to an arduino would it be possible to attain some position control?

[@RixtronixLAB]

Creative video, thanks :)

[@adesouza9352]

can i control with pwm?

[@mad-ee]

Yes the board can be controlled with a PWM signal. I have some information about this on my blog here: mad-ee.com/easy-inexpensive-hoverboard-motor-controller/#pwmcontrol

[@adesouza9352]

@@mad-ee okay tanks kg friend

[@grahamnichols1416]

VERY useful video and website article. Many thanks for sharing this. Take my like and subscription. :)

[@ampas30]

Mine doesnt work

[@redrighthandarts]

I tried one like this and just ended up getting a flipsky