Riot Revealed How Arcane Affects Canon Lore

[@Gemini-Kedisi]

Bro posted Arcane Act 4 for all of us.... Nothing but respect 🙌

[@bottledducky9610]

LOOOOL

[@JoeEver123]

Bro posted act 4 before gta 6…and act 3

[@scoobert4500]

@@JoeEver123act 3 has been out for 2 days though

[@viniciuslopesmodena]

All three episodes in an 2h video plus behind the scenes

[@ΚρανίΩ]

@@scoobert4500 one day

[@bigwheel9468]

Apocalyptic hextech zombies from piltover Ryze: I sleep Random ass village that has a pyromaniac kid Ryze: real shit

[@marcosrauth2234]

More like: Big Rune, one step lower than a world rune, going wild Ryze: I sleep Tamed and localized world rune causing minimal damage Ryze: Real shit!!

[@deadcandance5130]

We can't expect him doing all the job alone, let the man rest once in a while 😅

[@PabloSky_yt]

Well, that could be if Old Viktor actually warned him the only way to stop the Arcane incident was to let it happen and have Jayce figure it out.

[@marcosrauth2234]

@@deadcandance5130 in this particular case: he has centuries to rest. And he is "self employed". So no rest for him in crises that involve runes.

[@ioanamoiceanu9533]

Conspiracy Theory: Viktor will become Rise 😏

[@LuciusHill]

With Jinx being "dead". I've learned many things from my time watching media, and the one reigning rule is, "if there's no body, they aren't dead"

[@Baset_]

Jayce and Viktor in the astral plane:

[@icalculi]

doesn't matter. we don't need em on their next show.

[@Roboardo]

No body no kill

[@flegelbegel]

There was a body with vander tho

[@AngronTheRedAngel.]

⁠@@icalculithey won’t be in the next show probably. I’d assume in a few years we’ll get to see jinx in something somewhere else in the world of maybe back at Piltover and Zaun.

[@elijahbrown1437]

You can see him holding back breaking his NDA and not letting the lore nerd in him out

[@ruvkyu]

He doesn't know the lore, you can see it clear as day. He's just the bullshitter to bullshit all the fans.

[@TelepathicWeasel]

@@ruvkyu what tf u on

[@Roriipupper]

@ruvkyu Schizo much?

[@darkuit585]

​@@ruvkyu schizoposting hours already passed mate

[@tofupowda]

@@ruvkyu love to see how angry you lore obsessed weirdo's are about the ending. get over it. adaptations are subject to change and dont need to be carbon copies of their source material

[@swingandamiss47]

Necrit is going to launch a full length movie covering act 3

[@Pedley143]

im so ready

[@Iliasmadmad]

Fortiche employees playing League on the job and Christian supporting it is the essence of the show creators😭💀

[@RedDotsGB]

Its how my best mate ended up getting his current job, he was it the lan centre whilst waiting for his interview and the guy who was meant to be interviewing him was next to him Lucky shit

[@Imacoustic-pl4tb]

2 introverts meeting is insane I love how necrit is smiling most of the time like he's just happy to be there lol

[@AWren-mh2zx]

What are you talking about, Necrit is a chatterbox and cuts off Linke at the worst times! It's so frustrating!

[@bataryafakir]

​@@AWren-mh2zxyeah he doesn't listen and asks another question while Christian is talking

[@Giruga905]

Geez guys maybe he’s freaking excited to be there with a dude he admires just a thought, also how is he not listening when he continues to ask questions that are with the added context he is being provided fym

[@shmobbin6501]

Bringing in game items(Ambessa's keanic Krookren) and actually used is the sickest thing in the show.

[@KittenCritters]

Riven’s runestones have been in the lore since season 2 man what are you even on

[@theillogicalmindset]

@@KittenCritters they said being used in the show what are you on lol

[@WGasmss]

@@KittenCrittersreply ,makes no sense to the original comment

[@Ale_G1191]

@@KittenCritters what are you on?

[@d0ubleduecer941]

⁠@@KittenCritterswhat are you on

[@wyvern723]

"Hextech isn't gone" Yeah... There's no putting that genie back in the bottle.

[@xofurs9805]

Seriously, how did so many people think hextech will be gone? Imagine telling society after 30 years of using it that electricity is now forbidden because of "bad demons" or smth. As if any1 would actually stop using it.

[@Frank_Art]

Just don't mix it with living beings or shimmer, usable for mechanical things

[@kang2448]

Hextech is basically the equivalent of nuclear energy in our world. Nuclear causes some trouble, but it still doesn't stop us from continues using it. We just need to put some constrain and more safely measure on it. Same thing for Hextech, restrict the use of Hextech with any shimmer relate and put more safely measure on it.

[@irfanadhin5918]

Yeah, the merchant ain't letting Hextech gone lol

[@Jayfeather-cu1gc]

"Weapons can't be unmade, and they are always used" - Ambessa S1

[@FreedomRoseStein]

I was calling that riot would have to release something to fill in the gaps and man this is like 70% of the way there every time he said *not gonna answer that one day after release* made me so ready for when they ARE ready to answer those questions. thank you for doing this interview Necrit it means a lot

[@good1ntentions]

Hey Necrit, idk if that's actually an intended easter egg. But my head cannon is that in the alternate world of episode 7, Piltover & Zaun are more peaceful and united mostly because Heimerdingger was thrown back in time, and he could fix his mistakes while running the Council. This makes quite a lot of sense since his whole arc from season 1 act 3 + season 2 act 1 was about him seeing & experiencing the way of life of the people in Zaun.

[@ahsa3746]

I thought this when I first watched as well

[@aurumludum3695]

our heimerdinger was only there for about 3 years though, so i'm not sure how much he could have affected in that time. i definitely think he helped powder and ekko's group in particular get closer to piltover by visiting them once he showed up

[@lucasonvasynyt]

I think the implication in the better timeline was violet's death leading to vander and silco reconciling leading to no more shimmer from silco and vander's vision thriving in zaun and the possibility of the two sides working together afterwards

[@The1andonlysharpshooter]

@@aurumludum3695I’m pretty sure Ekko asked “when did you get here” and he responded with over a thousand or so years ago. And he was “starting to believe that Ekko wouldn’t show up.”

[@irfanadhin5918]

​@@The1andonlysharpshooterit's a thousand DAY. So more or less three years.

[@shanks2872]

I know why they did warwick like that, It's for the normal people that don't play League. It is way more clear that he is Vander by having his facial features instead of straight wolf.

[@andrewbost4490]

I mean, they called him Vander constantly so they didn’t need to go that far. But the characters have to be able to figure it out too before getting mauled so I don’t mind too much.

[@phantommonarch6199]

Also for thematic aspect of being able to see Vander beneath the beast

[@ziitania9939]

I understand why they did it, and it is slowly growing on me, though I do still prefer Wolf Warwick more, in my opinion. I realized that part of why I was so off put by it at first is because he reminds me a lot of a Bugbear from Dungeons and Dragons, but less Orange.

[@kabrozkabroz]

idc it was still horrible looking. 60's monster movie cringe werewolf

[@ZauniteWerewolf]

Nah. Warwick’s design at the end was ass. Act 2 was great. I loved the mid transformation. But what the actual FUCK was that in Act 3?? Disrespectful to us Warwick mains.

[@zeratuelt6621]

I was scared that video was long only 2h, but then I heard the intro

[@somacruz10]

I am watching 4 hours uncut version on twitch

[@josephstalin5414]

Life story of Mordekaiser would go so unbelievably hard.🙏🙏🙏

[@bigboihuenson9776]

This or Atreus Climb of Mount Targon. Maybe even his 2nd climb 👀

[@kielpogi8062]

Or rune wars

[@josephstalin5414]

​@@kielpogi8062 See Heimerdinger taking heads🥶🥶🥶

[@Volgalist]

Or Swain's story. Ionia invasion, revolution, establishment of Trifaric as the council. I can imagine Jericho Swain put Mel Medrada as the Guile in Trifaric because Mel is not a Black Rose supporter.

[@zdr4351]

@@Volgalist the only valid comment

[@NEFFEXSlowedReverb-mx5is]

Im just glad Savika survived lol

[@tbobontiyu]

Same but she should’ve gotten more than what she did. They fumbled her badly.

[@bottledducky9610]

Politician arc let's go

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

all my goats died 💀💀💀

[@NEFFEXSlowedReverb-mx5is]

@@tbobontiyu Yeah she should have had a better conclusion, they clearly didn’t have the time to explore her more but Honestly I think they did her fair by giving her a chair in the council she get now to represent Zaun which what she deserves since she worked hard to unite the people of Zaun. Just wished she had more screen time.

[@julio1148]

That was kind of a plot twist for me lol if you asked me after S1 if she’d make it to the end she wouldn’t have been on my list lol

[@tbobontiyu]

Sevika needs to be explored more! She didn’t have any dialogue after episode 4 and they made us think she was gonna have a big role in act 3 with that poster. There is so much to do with her story!

[@andrewbost4490]

Seriously, she was hardcore wasted in the second season. She was basically just Jinx’s hype lady.

[@hibilbo4755]

yeah I feel like this season really couldve used an extra 3 episodes to flesh out some more characters...

[@alex-hd9us]

I seriously hope she ends up a champ in league or has a story in the next show

[@tbobontiyu]

@@alex-hd9us I will actually spend money on LoL if she becomes a champion 😂

[@alex-hd9us]

@tbobontiyu bro her skin could one with her second arm I'd buy that instantly I'm saving my blue crystal to buy ambessa

[@ninfreak95]

I just wanna say, a a gay guy myself, I'm very glad they committed to the bromance and did not get romantic with Jayce and Viktor. Part of the problem with men in society is that they are scared to be seen as gay and avoid showing emotion or affection in any way. Letting all men be emotional or show friendly intimacy would do wonders for all men, including gay men. Thank you for representing male friendship in such a beautiful way.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

Others have called it a homophobic dog whistle. They really wanted them canonized.

[@Mia-nk1kg]

And many gay people ship them as well. I’m not saying they are canon, but the sexuality of the non/shipper should not be a reason in this case

[@raziel5835]

I like that in the final product it can be up to interpretation since is not the focus of the story, but sadly, I think making them something other than friends in the show would've been controvertial, even tho is just a fantasy world with hot made up characters. I believe another part of the problem with men is that a lot of them think being gay or bi is a bad thing or even disgusting, that it makes you abnormal or less than others, they will reject their favorite male characters if they're sexuallity is "revealed" as non-straight. Its very sad that in the League's Universe there has always been an initial negative reaction with possible or confirmed male relationships, but when it comes to the 3 canonical lesbian couples in the game, no one cries.

[@Merilirem]

@@raziel5835 They will push that aside. Don't worry. It sucks but a few more shows now that they have shown what they can do and it won't be a big deal when gay men show up.

[@maragu2379]

French hard drives hacking increased by 1000% this week

[@Gongibongi]

I would LOVE an anthology series of 40 or so minute episodes (or three episode arcs) for some of the champions that might not have enough impact for a larger show. i.e. 40min of the Freljord gods or the sealing of Lissandra, or an adventure in Ixtal with Nid or Neeko. Something like Star Wars: Visions.

[@twisted9516]

Or Black Mirror yeah

[@muhaiminhussain5843]

Would love to see rengar vs khazix The jhin storyline in 4 episodes etc.

[@AzizSketches]

I think lissandra show will be awesome for her acts affects everyone, whole freljord, nunu and willump, icathia, darkin, now even arcane. They can create a show to tie them all and move lissandra lore forward. But wont make sense for her arc is the end of the universe if they gonna do it, it will be the last project at least

[@dedosdeceniza]

​​@@AzizSketchesnunu should be the main character in the freljord show. Hes impartial and doesnt pick sides, Hes a neutral party and could, theoretically, interact with all freljord factions. Remember, he lived in a town under Frost guard rule, but they werent evil or anything, he just decided to leave

[@marianvajda785]

I think the problem with this is the cost. Like, it cost an insane amount to build a world, characters etc.. Building everything for 40 minutes is just not enough time. The reason arcane was great is that writers, animators, musicians etc. gave time to understand that universe, characters. But that wont happen for a 40 minute show.

[@FolliYt]

Christian Linke is the goat, haven't listened to the whole thing yet but I hope there was something mentioned about Bridging the Rift season 2!

[@rayinchrist1]

Seeing the entire arcane twitter fandom go off on Christian Linke calling him homophobic because he said Jayce and Viktor have a bromance relationship canonically is so insane. Never have is seen more chronically online actions, but it’s twitter so I’m not surprised.

[@ProxyDoug]

Twitter weirdos would outlaw male relationships if they could.

[@Phantomcrustacean]

Those spoiled brats got their steamy toxic yuri relationship that mended itself in the end. Can’t even appreciate the good shit that they have

[@whatever3912-h7e]

Seriously? Kinda sad that some people can't appreciate seeing close male friendships on screen. Just... why. Don't they get that I can hug my bros without being attracted to them, lol

[@we_are_bacons]

​@@whatever3912-h7e terminally online people what do you expect they all think that all the same gender friendship is gay.

[@kyla_vina9410]

​@we_are_bacons why do yall hate shipping? As long as the person isn't forcing everyone to agree with them it's just people having fun lol

[@allflash101]

I was absolutely fine with Warwicks take 4-6 & understood the reason of why they took that path, but I will never understand the final episode where they made him a emotionless metal monster instead of the full wolf… if they were just going to have the character be that robotic (emotionally) they could’ve at least had him be the full wolf. No point having a Vander/Wolfman if he was gonna be that stiff. My only real issue with the finale.

[@ZauniteWerewolf]

Same here.

[@H25Invicta]

Singed injected Vander with a serum that would destroy his humanity. At this point it would only have made sense for him to fully become Warwick. Unleash him as a weapon against the Piltovans. Cool, I like it. The direction they went with instead was incredibly questionable.

[@Omnipotentmonkey]

@@H25Invicta how? for the finale it made sense that Viktor would incorporate him into his army, now that the Hexcore influence is removed, and most traces of Vander snuffed out (candle symbolism) all that's left is Warwick,

[@LucasMalaquias]

Felt exactly the same, especially given how many great redesigns this show had, that final Warwick form felt so pointless, and as you said, it could definitely have been the full wolf version while still making sense to the storyline

[@bradleyedson8596]

@@Omnipotentmonkey I think the main problem is that now that warwick is this sort of machine beast, all of his other lore, visuals and voice lines make no sense.

[@StneviRenol]

"The world shouldn't feel small" BUT WHY DO WE HAVE TO SEE EKKO AND POWDER SUFFER 😭😭 this hurts more than a heartbreak

[@80AM.]

see the problem is you still connect jinx with who she was when she was younger. she is not powder. they're completely different personalities. reading this comment hurts more than anything that show presented.

[@StneviRenol]

@80AM. Sorry if I hurt you...?

[@StneviRenol]

​@@80AM.Sorry if I hurt you in any way..? Hope you feel better though 😅

[@jesseyNiepce]

@@80AM. She is different from the powder shown in the alternative world, but she still is the same person and isn't completely gone. Jynx is still powder, it's why she still cared for VI and Vander.

[@agssilv5919]

​@@80AM. Then why show her burning everything that made her jinx in ep9 and then show how without the jinx persona to SHIELD the burden she was gonna end It all? That right there on ep9 was powder not Happy ep 7 powder but powder nonetheless

[@odstkchamp7719]

I am honestly surprised there wasnt mention of this. But there was that one powerful scene of people finally crossing the bridge to Steb. For the first time, after all the blood that had been spilled on that bridge. They were able to cross it without a single weapon raised.

[@theindexfinger3434]

Hats off to riot. They really raised the bar. Arcane awoke feelings I didnt know I had. I never cried in a movie/show ever. I’m so invested in these characters.

[@TajinQ]

Not Riot. Riot is the middleman

[@rvds2040]

@@TajinQ riot wrote it, how are they the middleman, netflix is more the middleman, riot wrote fortiche animated any streaming service would do

[@TajinQ]

@@rvds2040 Riot is the company, not the people. Arcane would have never existed if not for creatives who did everything to make it work, despite executives at Riot games wanting the project canceled. Just like KDA, Riot forge games (which did eventually get cancelled). How many cool things do you think Riot is praised for, despite the actual artists and dev who actually created it getting fired because of Riot's awful management? Because there's *a lot*.

[@FlippySuper]

1:46:33 the part a lot of people will wanna hear

[@TheSoggyOne]

W tyvm

[@noahchoi2502]

Thanks that really helps👍

[@Nata-ch2bk]

Thanks

[@RisingShadow11]

has to he sylas demacia huntin mages story line right lux is one of the most popular character right

[@OystersHome]

​@@RisingShadow11 Idk Sylas got an entire game dedicated to him and the mageseekers. I doubt riot wants to tell that story twice.

[@alangryfs6516]

Theory for the following of arcane in noxus : For me, we’ll follow Mel on the side of Noxus, where she’ll encounter Swain, who will manipulate or influence her with the rune he retrieved with his raven. For me, the rune contains Jayce and Viktor. They are not dead.

[@omega7057]

They are indeed not dead In fact the only champion 100% dead is Ambessa, everyone else can still be alive

[@gadrielvanorion9872]

Solid idea to bring Jayce and Viktor back into the story,but in a different part of the world without making it weird Also Jayce is still tied to mel

[@copypastemyname]

The key thing here is that you don't want them to pile up the references and the characters in one series and force the events of the series to happen in order to fit more from the game. Doing that will make the universe feel smaller. They did a wonderful job with arcane, including side characters, more characters, character deaths, generational changes to characters/cities etc. and rationing their existing established characters. Keep this up pls.

[@DZatheus]

Why is it wrong to reference people that live in a place? I don't get it.

[@dedosdeceniza]

Also. Since arcane was written before modern league lore, It means this was the original plan but they didnt want to spoil the plot. So they made the modern Lore so you get to know the characters first and get hyped.

[@michaelka3071]

​@@DZatheus referencing is fine but doing it too much will just make the world smaller. when making a story you always need to leave some suspense to make it interesting or else the reader/audience will know too much that the story becomes bland

[@meowietham]

​@@dedosdecenizaYeah! I think thats the reason Jinx and Vi's lore on release was... short and not really too..... like genuinely in the ingame lore we can't even say they're related lmao. I'm glad arcane wasn't afraid to do what they did in act 3.

[@snakelord2234]

i love listening to christan, he is the most human feeling exec or show runner ever i love him so much

[@FFR95]

he is an artisté, love his passion for the game and the show

[@safabaltacioglu5350]

Longer than the finale . I love this guy

[@gen1136]

No its shorter by like 15 minutes

[@cryodragon617]

@@gen1136 The finale is the last episode which was 50 minutes long

[@aadityadav5526]

Petition to get a directors cut :)

[@explodingpineapple6459]

11:30 i can already hear the sounds of thousands of hacker girls calling the squad to assemble the ultimate hacking team for this goal

[@Pandamonium626]

I thought it was already pretty intense and then he said it was originally longer and got denied for rating reasons. Now I HAVE to see it haha.

[@TBFjourney]

CaitVi Fandom will animate an entire "directors" cut just for an extra minute of sloppy style and I respect it

[@Yxung_DevRo]

This interview with Christian Linke really made some of the plot points more conclusive, I feel people are disappointed because they are misinterpreting the scenes and could benefit a lot by hearing some of the writers and animators intensions.

[@johnstajduhar9617]

True, but it also shows that some of those intentions maybe didn't come across clearly enough, or could have been paced out differently. It's a tricky thing to balance, and the show handled it very well throughout, but I think could have benefited from some more breathing room to illustrate those points more fully.

[@colossaldonut5190]

To be fair it's just hard to jam everything that the audience needed to hear without ruining the pacing of the final part. Although a lot of this definitely was needed to be given to us in a way that's better than an afterwards interview. Just knowing Hextech survives is alone a massive detail that isn't obvious at all.

[@Yxung_DevRo]

⁠@@johnstajduhar9617 The show was definitely very fast paced, but still amazing, especially those last 2 episodes. I think overall they did a really good job fitting in so many story arcs but I feel having just some filler would’ve benefit the show a lot as well, but the constraints of money and time probably made this very hard to do.

[@leetri]

@@johnstajduhar9617 That's the issue, people keep crying "show don't tell!" but then they do that and people get upset that not everything is explicitly spelt out in detail. I can't recall how many people I've seen angry that Jinx "died" when Fortiche made super obvious hints that Jinx was alive. It's not even remotely subtle, but since it wasn't explicitly spelt out people don't get it.

[@johnstajduhar9617]

@@leetri Agree on that point, I think it's most helpful to think on those questions or ambiguities (if they are) is to see it in terms of theme and direction. Jinx was self-destructive and nihilistic for so long, and that airship sailing away (the exact same model from that 1st episode she fantasized about) seems a clear refutation of her just destroying herself again (even if for a heroic cause). Otherwise it's just miserable and empty, which their ending clearly isn't going for.

[@krokodilgaming]

Christian saying that he "lost" 9 years of his life is absolutely not true. Him and everyone that worked on Arcane, created a masterpiece that is one of the best if not the best animated shows yet! If they keep going and keep making the series out of passion, then without a doubt, they will go down as the GOATs of the league Fandom, who created something that is a beautiful homage to the game and the community itself.

[@AnaGamer19]

I feel so bad because people were insulting him on twitter and calling him a nobody because he denied a ship being canon. Fandoms are the worst. Despite how executives messed their scheduling they delievered one of the greatest animated series.

[@rakarakkarakaxx]

League fandoms? Arcane was a good standalone thing but it's such a disappointment to the mega lore nerds (which I'm guilty of). They are retconning a lot of good champ's backstories going forward because of s2 ending. They were trying to flesh out the loose ends but ended up messing up the good lores. Legit have mixed feelings with this, but still a great show.

[@AnaGamer19]

I agree with the lore change, I don't like it at all. But as a stand alone they did something very especial, especially the first season bc the second was messy. The problem is Riot wanting to canonize it even when that wasn't the intial plan.

[@Es0terick]

@@AnaGamer19what ship? They confirmed Vi and Cait are canon as they confirmed Arcane is canon.

[@Neurotik51]

could argue season 1 was a masterpiece, definitely not season 2, it stumbled too hard in episodes 8 and 9 but man episode 7 was nice

[@RemixedYoshi]

Just because arcane is over that doesn't mean we wont see piltover or zaun again.

[@n1c3s43]

how do you expect us to see it again?

[@vvgr409]

True but we are not going to see them for a long time.

[@RemixedYoshi]

@@n1c3s43 well it goes the same for the characters . also hex gates for travel if they ever get used again.

[@omega7057]

@@RemixedYoshi they might since hextech is staying, only thing idk is who will be in charge of it since most of the characters that could do that are elsewhere now

[@michaelka3071]

​@@n1c3s43 same as how they criss cross information in league lore, by champions referencing other places in the world. a character in future series could go and say "pilt over is developing rapidly last i heard" or a champion directly calling out another champion's current situation

[@rice_frying_shrimp]

You have no idea how happy I am to have Christian now be one of the more famous people internationally to hail from the general area where I was born (north-northern Germany, like properly up north) and seeing him be this successful and knowing he'll be involving in many more upcoming projects is making me so fucking happy you have no idea.

[@BEETSSOLO]

I'm glad that the way they seem to want to create the lore now, is more focused on the idea that not every champion exist at the same point in time.

[@JoeEver123]

Its whats like that before too. Like jinx and Vi wasnt supose to be sisters since they were from different epoque

[@cherno8336]

@@JoeEver123 no

[@BEETSSOLO]

@@JoeEver123 Not quite, a lot of the lore for Zaun took place circa the same time for a lot of champions Urgot, mundo, Zeri, glasc, Ekko, warwick, Camille and so on had stories where the interacted or were mentioned. The point i wanted to make is that history is being created by people and it will keep being made by different people. And that history is what in the end is gonna make them legends.

[@kitnal4143]

honestly I kinda hate it ngl you just have characters who's stories are... done

[@yahirmolina8488]

@@kitnal4143 but isn't that better to just have a lot of character that doesn't have and end story

[@chillch4659]

hello mr. necrit, im aware this isn't in a professional interview and a lot of it is affected by the twitch chat. but, it wouldve be a pleasure to hear a real conversation and not just bombard mr. linke with question after question. for instance, he was about to dive into singed's psyche and character but was interrupted by a zeri question into a timebomb question out of nowhere. i understand that passion often overtakes us but it would be better next time to take time and really listen to mr. linke and take in what he has to say so us the audience can take it in too.

[@red2someru]

yeah cant really fault necrit for not being used to handling chat going 50x speed that he’s used to and also feeling responsible for getting people answers while everyone is an emotional mess…but it’s clear that singed and everything around that part of the show was meticulously crafted, i really wanted to hear more on the question about the science behind the life sustaining formula, orianna’s body material in our new arcane canon, etc. would have been good to have mods used to dealing w/ 20k+ viewer channels to filter stuff over so they could have a relaxed conversation…but like everything else riot does at least they did it even if not perfect.

[@chillch4659]

@@red2someru yeah this isnt faulting mr. necrit or anything, twitch chat getting crazy and as a host per se in this case, mr. necrit is also kind of pressured by chat and he wanted to get a lot of ansewrs for us. so these suggestions are for the next time he has a guest of sorts in his streams.

[@HapPawhere]

There is NDA. So they cannot do anything about it

[@francofouche8639]

god i hope riven is next mc for the follow up show, coz her invading iona with noxus realizing all the things wrong with noxus and having swains pov of fusing with rom and maybe irelias side , god all of it pleaseeee

[@Krutonkreatura]

As a riven main i would be very happy lol

[@dev.kochevnik]

one of the main characters should be riven definitely. So much emotional background

[@maltep9659]

but that cant really happen because riven left the army after singed bombed them he cant bomb them because he was always in zaun

[@M_i_z_a_r_y]

as long as shes in atleast 1-2episodes id be happy af , always been the biggest fan of her design since her release :D

[@TheJamieellis]

Swain already has Raum so the Ionian conflict has already happened.

[@lekelci]

Viktor was talking about humanity at the end of episode 6, and in episode 9, he talked about emotion clashing with reason. The very things that makes us human are the reasons of this chaos, sadly that's why the cycle of violence never stops. The thoughts of "what could have been" from the episode 7 was astonishing, also knowing that it was temporary was tragic and sad. I would've loved more episodes to take all the experiences in, we didn't get to see all the conclusions we wanted for the characters like Ekko and Powder, i give it that it was because of the budget limit, still, Arcane was an amazing experience that i will never forget.

[@austinsc2]

Thanks for the live Q&A, it was awesome. Got some of my questions answered including the freaky ww mention ;)

[@JustBlaisYT]

Truly an unreal interview with a lot of good reveals - thank you for doing this and big thanks to Riot as well!

[@redstonemonster5769]

I thought i could bring an end to world suffering. But when every equation is solved all that remained are fields of dreamless solitude. There is no price to perfection only a end to pursuit. In all timelines, in all possibilities only you can show me this.""

[@andrewli8900]

*prize

[@boomchiki3245]

Hold up, his writing is this fire??

[@Merilirem]

His issue was that he did it wrong. Not that he reached perfection. He was far from perfect.

[@sergioq94]

@@Meriliremyeah, the result was not something he expected, he fucked up, that was not perfection. A lot of the finale didn’t make sense at all.

[@frosthammer917]

@@sergioq94 Its not about the semantics of the word "perfection". He reached the perfection he defined for himself. The kind of perfection he could and wanted to reach: a world without the emotional and physical faults of humans. But he failed to see the downside of that.

[@nikolasg5520]

I think season 2 should have had 12 episodes. I understand animation is expensive, but Arcane could have been beyond legendary with those extra episodes.

[@VaMage]

No

[@AppleBaron]

I mean, any amount of extra episodes would be great, but they had to work with what they've got. Maybe they went a little overboard with the amount of storylines they could've cover in just two seasons, but it is what it is. Hopefully they will take this learning experience into the future shows.

[@fukkenPavlo]

Tbh, despite the fact that they're saying it's the most expensive animated show ever, it really feels like the decision to fit all those events in a single season was a cost saving measure. I can imagine that two $125-150kk season would still be more expensive than one for $250kk

[@tbobontiyu]

Even one more episode would’ve been better, it’s not like they don’t have the money :/

[@Bumbaclart]

@@tbobontiyu Literally, just one more episode set a year later to show us what happened to everyone. Like did Ekko find Jinx and make up, how is Sevika holding up in the council, what is the relationship between Zaun and Piltover etc. Such a missed opportunity to really seal the deal

[@cecantu6533]

Just watched the whole interview pretty good

[@Littleladbiglad]

HOW TF DID YOU WATCH AN HOUR IN 2 MINUTES?

[@Zeloge69]

@@Littleladbiglad MAYBE ON LIVE Xdddd . or on 2x COPIUM

[@leoblob]

@@Littleladbiglad Hextech

[@xtalpax902]

​@@LittleladbigladTime skip

[@loz______8154]

bro is ekko

[@LuckyArrOwO]

The reason behind the costs makes me very happy as someone from the animation industry.

[@lizfeelsfunny9949]

31:40 about if jinx is dead, Christian says “figure is out” looks to the side and smiles - I mean come on! She gotta be alive

[@oldpharaoh]

Caitlin in the final scenes finds the blueprints for the area Jinx "died in", revealing a couple chambers she could've escaped through. Plus, the golden rule of thumb is that if you don't see a dead body, they're not dead.

[@jedna25]

Theres so many hint that shes alive😊

[@erenandisha]

so shes alive lets gooo

[@georgex231]

ABSOLUTELY ALIVE

[@georgex231]

We figured it out Cristian.. Jinx survived.. is so OBVIOUS

[@andrewbost4490]

The next show I want is Shen and Zed, that would be a great show. Alternatively, Draven and Darius two brothers that don’t seem to like each other but still genuinely love and support each other in a social Darwinist society would be a good contrast to this show.

[@tommy2051]

Agreed!! I'm excited for Noxus too but i really want to see more interactions between shen and zed (and kayn too 🙏 if it's not too much to ask for)

[@Es0terick]

Bilgewater and Blessed/shadow isles✋🏽

[@avisdunrandom]

I really hope Noxus will be next since they already introduced it whit Ambessa. Is link to various regions such as Valoran (Freljord, Demacia Piltover/Zaun), Sumeru and Ionia. Wich will be a great "hub" to introduce future story start with/in Noxus "arc" but will finish in the respective regions. Like Ionia wars with Yasuo runaway, Zed and Shen split - >Singed creating his weapons - > Riven breakdown, Yi grief,...

[@Senjukoten]

It’s hum Shurima not Sumeru 😅

[@kevin55442]

@@Senjukoten maybe it also links to Fontaine and Natlan

[@yahwiiin]

in another universe, Jinx probably went to Nahida

[@SkullM]

I don't think we're going to get it, but I'd love a Game of Thrones-esque character-centric drama about ancient Shurima with Azir/Xerath, and Nasus/Renekton as the main dynamics being followed.

[@smolfucca6929]

0:29 So you’re telling me that sesbian lex was supposed to be longer? Damn

[@scott8934]

Felt like an eternity as it is 😂

[@nflhd8678]

20:09 So my guess here is the demon was originally working with Mordekaiser if I'm not mistaken. After his downfall it started working with Leblanc and she was the one that sent it to Swain when he was on the verge of death for some sort of a big plan.

[@kilroy203]

Canonically, Raum is just sealed in the Immortal Bastion, not working for Mordekaiser or Leblanc. He got interested in Jericho Swain after he denounced a Black Rose plot to overthrow Boram Darkwill (the then Noxus Emperor) and contacted him years later when the Ionian invasion fucked up and Swain got crippled. There, he showed him all of Noxus' secrets (including Leblanc still being alive, to Swain's anger), and made a deal with him (a tiny bit later when Swain got back to Noxus). It's supposed to be a faustian deal, but swain being a tactician actually got one over Raum. Leblanc never sent Raum to Swain, actually I think she did not like that very much considering Raum's powers are supposed to be very desired for those knowing of his existence.

[@Azrael79a]

Jinx in Bilgewater would be cool lol. The Ionian/Noxian War would also be pretty wild.

[@HighlandHellboy]

42:00 I’m a gay man, and don’t get me wrong I love the idea of Jayce x Viktor and love fan art of it, but their relationship has just never felt romantic to me. Instead it has always felt like true brotherhood to me, they love each other deeply and have been there for each other in their darkest moment, they both matter so deeply to each other in a way that transcends romance. Its very much a Bucky + Steve, Kirk + Spock, etc. type relationship, they will never not be there for each other, and Jayce in the end realises how he pushed Viktor away and refused to do that again to him. Simplifying it to romantic robs the relationship of its weight and detracts from especially Jayce and Mel as characters. Mel means the world to Jayce, and there’s nothing wrong with that, especially when Mel is so awesome as a character (seriously, she better become a champion), but Viktor and Jayce are each other’s foundations, and Mel’s not thick, she gets that and is clearly comfortable with that, because it is a different kind of relationship. Viktor and Mel just strongly disagreed with each other on the future of hextech. Ultimately all forms of consensual love is valid and not worth more than another. On a different note, god I ship Scar (the chirean firelight) and Steb (the fish folk enforcer), different sides, similar position, both mysterious and hot.

[@threadbreaker5851]

Scar and STEB??????

[@Snowy-u1c]

𝑻𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒌 𝒖!!!❤

[@poisonsiren]

That’s the thing though, AroAce people exist and can have deep non-platonic relationships and partnerships that don’t involve romance or sex. And even if they were going for “just platonic friends” they’ve ended up creating something much deeper since jayce and viktor are literally soulmates and life partners. And sure there’s no romance since it seems like Viktor is aroace but it’s so reductive for people to insist and get angry that it’s “just platonic friends” when their bond is so much deeper than that and can be interpreted differently. It’s honestly such a beautiful example of an aroace relationship and partnership, even if that was never the intention. And I don’t think it’s wrong for people to read into it since there was so much ambiguity and complexity and that shows great writing.

[@80AM.]

@@poisonsiren you don't think it's wrong for them to read into that yet they sit there and call Chris a homophobic bigot. That's the result.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

​@@80AM.Those people will never not be happy.

[@unnaturalpri]

I honestly loved that they did that to Caitlyn, since Ambessa told her about a 4th principle that was Sacrifice. She sacrificied her eye for what was the greater good at the moment. And I think that was an awesome redemption.

[@vansserafim]

Christian’s fav champ is heimerdinger who hasn’t fought in the series anyhow

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

Heimer isn't a fighter

[@gama6508]

I mean fortiche just making masterclass after masterclass, Get jinxed, Warriors, Rise and then Arcane. The fact that their animation made the authors rewriting the scipt is pretty insane too

[@jaedenhillesheim7930]

Dang! That was some awesome content. Really sad I missed the stream live. Would've loved to hear more about how the studio approached the vastaya that were present. When the fish guy blinked on the bridge scene before the big battle at the end, my animal nerd side was very happy about the nictitating membranes. Cool details.

[@captironsight]

The biggest question is "Is there a common vision for what the future of the franchise holds?" Riot has a chance to replicate the magic of Marvel as long as they have one creative vision that guides their direction. If they scatter the plots then they will replicate phase 5. If they have a deliberate story, then they might become a Billion dollar studio in my humble opinion.

[@voidrius]

I'm pretty sure they put out a statement earlier on about specifically trying to steer away from the formulaic marvel crossover movie franchise formula, they want it to be special

[@captironsight]

​@@voidrius A centralized road map is key. They won't share it for NDA reasons but a planned future will result in a version of Marvel 1-3 rather than a Rise of skywalker. If You can't understand that then you're cooked already.

[@Weirdletter]

@@voidriusthey can have multiple branching stories as long as they don’t have multiple shows running at once. Then it becomes difficult and tedious for the viewer to keep up with

[@oldpharaoh]

The dream, for me at least, is that the very last show to be produced is about The League of Legends, where summoners finally come back into lore.

[@dedosdeceniza]

​@@voidriushonestly. Factions dont interact too much aside from trade and war, noxus being the prime example. Demacia is closed off, Shurima is basically free for the taking until azir wakes up, the freljord sucks and no one wants it, Ionia isnt worth the trouble, the shadow/blessed isles are a myth/too dangerous, the other continent may as well not exist. Targon is territorial and religious, same as Ixtal, the void sucks ass and Bilgewater is the crossover paradise already so i dont think anyone will be mad about that.

[@unicornpet2225]

I’m soo glad you posted it here bc I had to watch like 5 ads every 10-15 minutes 😭

[@catalinedward]

Jinx did not die... you can see a thin pink line that shoots from the explosion... i didn't see it, but i saw a video earlier that pointed that out

[@LucasGabriel-rv9lf]

1st stage of grief: denial

[@yigitdnr7260]

​@@LucasGabriel-rv9lfthe pink dash into the explsion, you can see it in 2 frames, after that scene cait looking into the hexgates with a jinx granade, looking into the air vents, and once she sees one, she smiles. Later on we see an air ship that is going on its own. From the season 1 ep 1, same one that powder said "one day, im gonna ride in one of these" and she leaves with that one.

[@Merilirem]

@@LucasGabriel-rv9lf Its not. I saw it myself and double checked later at 0.25 speed. She escaped.

[@lilli9698]

I would actually DIE for a show or movie about Jhin. He's so well written already and such an underrated Ionian character! Exploring him more would be such a treat.

[@ncblock87]

jhin is anything but underrated, eh??

[@janah6473]

Not everything you like is underrated. You aren't that special.

[@Levixne]

they better give his original voice actor his job back, allegations turned out false

[@Zero-zr6xx]

The Zed/Shen/Jhin comic would make a great thriller/drama movie. Although they should rewrite a lot of things from it cause of it's subpar writing. Also Jhin is one of the most popular champs, he is far from underrated.

[@rega5888]

Overated af

[@averyyeen]

You can just tell he wants to say more but he cant XD

[@noice1224]

Okay so if I understand how the lore behind Champs works, they aren’t all alive simultaneously in Runeterra. They have backstories, lives and deaths and as we see them in game is how they are at SOME POINT in the universe ?

[@80AM.]

precisely. wouldn't make sense for all of them to be living at the same time when it comes to creating a show. you'd never hear any back story. it would be no different than your annual league cinematic.

[@happypepper9326]

So, all the canon is going to be rewritten. Heimerdinger can return. Hextech is still working. Renata, Camille, Seraphine are "next generation". Arcane is the natural magic of the planet. Singed worked with Heimerdinger.

[@rega5888]

We knew that Singed worked with Heimerdinger since season 1

[@MGViolent]

…Jinx is ALIVE and kicking as a lone wanderer! (please be true)

[@boomchiki3245]

@@MGViolent Its true and that's where she will meet ziggs

[@Merilirem]

I would say fleshed out and lined up for most of that.

[@christiancolasito8266]

It's already stablished that when a yordle die, their essence/spirit returns to bandle city to "respawn"/reborn.

[@GK-dc2oe]

I'm just glad they were pretty clear on Jinx still being alive. I didn't want an open ending for her, and her going off to another region could be great for future cameos etc. It also wouldn't have fit thematically imo, with forgiveness and moving on, breaking the cycle as it were, being such a central theme of the show.

[@vansserafim]

arcane being connected to the void is one of the most interesting hints here

[@ninfreak95]

It's really obvious to anyone who knows the lore, but nice to hear him say anyway. The insectoid visuals give it away.

[@Merilirem]

@@ninfreak95 Can you believe people still think they changed the lore and the void doesn't exist anymore? I ran into too many of those fools this season. Just taking words to mean things they don't.

[@TheHugav]

At around 20 minutes - he speaks about "are we past the point of darkwill" etc. I believe we are, as Swain was the one to introduce the trifarix (I BELIEVE) which would mean swain has made his pact already - but this still means it could be before the second invasion.

[@MSusername69]

Or they could say it was someone else with the power before swain got it.

[@claudionosotti8812]

Reading comments here and on social media, what's the big deal with Blitzcrank, it seems like the entire fandom is going crazy over it, yeah right now Blitz lore is that it was created by Viktor but obviously this can be easily solved with a small update to Blitz lore ?? Does Blitzcrank's origin seriously matter so much to everyone ??? Blitz design-wise isn't even near the aesthetic of Hextech as presented in Arcane so either they give it an asu or there's no way Arcane's Viktor could've created it at any point after he met Jayce, and if he did create Blitz before then its existence is still canon so it's not that big of a deal. Champion dying didn't even really matter that much before Arcane, canonically Pantheon is dead and the one appearing in one of the cinematic fighting Leona is just his former human host, but you still play Pantheon in League. Ambessa is dead and so she won't appear in future stories, but we still have Mel going forward. Jinx isn't dead, there is no way a team so dedicated to every single little detail put into the show crafted the entire final scene with Caitlyn looking at the hexgate's escape routes just to give her something to do, it's clearly implied Jinx used those to get away and let Vi live the life she deserves without worrying about her anymore. Warwick is probably alive too, it's literally been shown during act 2 how fast he can regenerate after sustaining fatal injuries; his head gets literally disintegrated by Vi's punch and immediately regrows, he survived the point blank explosion caused by Isha, so I really don't think Jinx's grenade would be enough to destroy him completely, most likely he lost the Viktor-ified pieces and either regrew himself as a full wolf since Vander's mind was erased or Singed found him somehow and completed the transformation into the WW we see in game. Heimerdinger is a Yordle and Yordles canonically don't really die, so he's probably back to Bandle City chilling lol. Jayce and Viktor stories are straight up being reworked by Arcane so, like Ambessa, they can be dead and done with and still being in League bc the game itself isn't canon to the lore. Camille, Zeri, Renata and Urgot can still be canon with some tweaks and adjustments to their stories. Swain can be tricky, but imho Arcane s2 could be happening alongside Noxus invading Ionia; Swain loses his arm to Irelia and finds Raum a year before Singed weapons are used against Ionia, so it's possible the crow we see in Arcane is sent by Swain, now back in Noxus after being discharged, collecting informations while plotting his coup, while Singed still has time to develop a chemical weapons for noxians to use. I don't get why people are freaking out so much about Arcane "destroying" the entire League universe because literally everything can be adjusted to match the new lore without rewriting it from scratch. Also, one thing I wish Necrit would've asked because it's a thing I've been thinking about since her backstory was expanded, but is it possible that Mel is an Aspect? Her magic seems to be way stronger than a regular mage and even stronger than LeBlanc's, which is way more powerful than a regular mage, and in some way kinda divine-looking. I do wonder if the Black Rose was searching for her because of that.

[@Riderampas]

Phanteon already die but atreus still alive, And he the only phanteon we've played from the start and only atreus that have bigger story than other phanteon.

[@samski2185]

Thank you for speaking sense. I trust the writers to be able to tie this all in, especially with the MMO far on the horizon.

[@Es0terick]

Beyond that , do people just overlook the fact that in a league game you are able to have a team of Zeri, Aurelian, Velkoz, Jhin… they are canonically not from the same time period. Unless everyone is canonically immortal that alone doesn’t make sense

[@firelight8565]

41:33 This is such excellent news to hear! I loved seeing the friendship between Jayce and Viktor, and part of what makes their relationship so powerful to me is just that: that it is a friendship, that it does not have to be romantic for them to love each other. I want to see more character relationships with the level of depth that they share! It was genuinely beautiful, and made me cry so hard during the final episode.

[@ianmorr222]

I believe every future show Riot makes will lead to Mordekaiser. I have no doubt in my mind. Noxus seems to be the big bad of all of these stories, slowly brewing up in the background. We now know Swain knows just about everything that has taken place thus far. I won’t be surprised if the next series takes place in an unrelated region like Freljord or Bilgewater but with hints of Noxus in the story, just like how Arcane was set up to be a Piltover-Zaun story only to contain large influences of Noxus throughout. Mordekaiser WILL be the big bad of Runeterra eventually. Ambessa was a villain to Piltover, Zaun, Mel, and the Black Rose all at once. This arc with Viktor, Jayce, and the Arcane felt like a warm-up. Viktor’s glorious evolution was a world-ending event and he could be reasoned with because of Jayce and Ekko’s actions, but Mordekaiser is a force that must be stopped at all times, no matter what. There is a reason Riot hasn’t revealed Leblanc as a character yet. Subtitles still call her ‘sorceress.’ She and the Black Rose will have many more future appearances, I am sure. Riot truly are gearing up for massive worldbuilding; many, many pieces are moving all at once and they know this. Arcane is gonna appear so small in the future once we have a catalog of League of Legends shows that connect all of those pieces. I am so very excited for what all of this means for the League canon!!

[@AmonTheWitch]

well mel did point out that Leblanc was scared, considering why the black rose was made it makes sense

[@Volgalist]

Or maybe, the story of Swain taking over Noxus. The timeline is kinda weird rn because with Singed not (yet) affiliated with Ionian massacre, it is apparently that Swain still not a grand general and Trifaric isn't established as the government. Problem is, Swain have Raum which means he is ready to taking over of Noxus.

[@brian0057]

I'm not sure. I dont remember if it was Christian or Alex who said it, but one of them said that they're not interested in doing "MCU stuff", or something along those lines. They don't wanna make a cinematic unverse that leads to a team up event. I dont know how wiil that play out in the future.

[@antharesmontoya368]

​@@Volgalist or maybe the raven is raum only, probably Swain hasn't lost his arm yet

[@Elenea__21]

I don’t know much about LoL lore but could Jinx potentially wind up in Bilgewater? I feel like she would fit in pretty well..

[@coedeed]

I feel like I'm the only person that is worried about the implications of the finale and what it means for the MMO they are making. Since all lore in arcane is THE source now and canon, the finale really messed up for me. There isn't a timeline following this show to be lore accurate and have all these beloved characters in the game at the same time. Everything pre S2E6 could have been used for origins stories which was fine, but the final moments of act 3 really screwed with it. In a live service MMO you can't have characters that are dead in lore in the game unless you do some stupid time travel stuff for a quest or little area, or ghosts idk. The show showed us there was never a moment where Warwick and Viktor existed in the same time as they appear in league. I don't know, I think them saying arcane was canon and everything being based off of it the worst thing that could have happened regarding the MMO. Especially with Ghostcrawler leaving and them starting over from scratch.

[@dedosdeceniza]

Dead people serve mordekaiser, specially strong people. They can still appear as a part of mordekaisers army.

[@coedeed]

​@@dedosdeceniza think it would be a huge L for the certain partner team to be just lowly pawns in mordes realm

[@IoniaZero]

@@dedosdeceniza No, Dead people killed by mordekaiser's magic serves him, any other don't go to his realm and got stuck in it, they vanish, or just go to other layer of death realm. So no, they could not be within Mordekaiser's grasp

[@fynn4180]

Would be nice to listen to this on Spotify or something, like a podcast

[@mizuno6337]

Man, I really appreciate all your videos but I've just noticed you look so much healthier now, physically, and I'm so happy for it :) Btw, I do think the Black Rose was already aware Mel wasn't to be trusted and there might be some shenanigans regarding Ambessa's supposed death and the ability to create ilusions by LeBlanc, in order to make everyone believe Ambessa's dead because I do think Ambessa is still of great value to the Black Rose and Noxus.

[@bthsr7113]

Well Mageseeker killed Demacia's most interesting plot thread as it was wrapping up warm ups, so maybe the reboot to make Arcane canon can at least help Demacia, if no other region.

[@Stoj4n]

What plot thread specifically, if you don't mind me asking?

[@Gellaini]

@@Stoj4n Sylas and mage rebelion

[@avisdunrandom]

Well the story is more in a stalemate since syllas seek an alliance with Sejuani so Demacia "arc" is still not "dead" especially with the Noxus threat. Also Ryze seal the world rune near Demacia since petricite tree should be near Demacia.

[@aceofsalts0246]

My favorite part of Mageseeker is where Jarvan's crush tells him that the thing he's doing is wrong and so he goes through a massive crisis of conscience before deciding that she was right. Then Lux and Garen are just totally willing to forgive him because he feels remorse. It's important to note that "that thing he did" was *signing off on Runeterra's version of the holocaust.* The constant mental gymnastics Riot goes through to act like Jarvan's actions don't render him an unforgivable monster are a joke.

[@Phantomcrustacean]

Well, mageseekers isn’t canon anymore because of arcane so there’s still always the chance

[@captainavatar0]

The danger of trying to 1 to 1 the game world with the fiction is canon breaks way too easy and/or railroads you into a version of the story. Unlike a book that is a static story, the game world is Live Service and evolving. Had Riot had a canon story from day 1 this process would be smoother, but we are too far down the road now.

[@vansserafim]

wish you asked what is the celestial realm that viktor is floating in

[@e2victor613]

Hopefully, it ties into aurelion sol that would be absolutely insane

[@opportunity3278]

@@e2victor613 hopefully NOT that sounds stupid

[@garymcjerry]

Imo, bard. Look at bard’s abilities, look at that golden light, tell me it’s not him.

[@e2victor613]

@garymcjerry that would be cool to, but as a sol main, I just wanna see my champion in a highly acclaimed show, I'm sorry if it's a stupid fan-fic

[@garymcjerry]

@@e2victor613 I can’t imagine sol won’t come to screen one day, he’s pretty important. You might get the Janna treatment tho… so, be prepared lol.

[@Javano_]

18:37 - I'm not sure if he just *really* misunderstood the question, or if it was a purposeful dodge to avoid addressing it -- but the fact that they don't have a clear answer for why Swain exists in a time period where he shouldn't worries me...

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

He cannot reveal too much because of NDA

[@Merilirem]

He knows. He can't say. Also Swain probably doesn't exist as you know him yet. We didn't see him. We saw Raum.

[@nick5049]

I cannot wait to see the environment and animals of Ionia in these animations

[@donatszabo8300]

The same rune that jayce got in this time line was the same, that ekko used for time travel, and jayce and Viktor used many of this rune in the last scene. They time traveled i think

[@shaichang9363]

Just 2 hours??? You are getting weak Necrit :/

[@roses_n_ink]

Damn 🤣

[@necrogon22]

Hes not weak he just reached level 18

[@MagnusArchitectOfFate]

His power fades away… or he wants us to believe so…

[@guccipucci3941]

Mans getting old 😢

[@seifedin3833]

he needs to make a 24 hour long video speaking about the full lore of runtera with every single detail and character

[@Fsecret]

Honestly The Third act Could Have Used 3 more Episodes, The themes and Topics needed more Breathing Room, and Fate of Characters were ... All right, i dont Think Anyone Expected a Full Happy Ever After but Too many Characters were Left Open Ended and Some Were Not used Properly , And The Epilogue Was Too Short. Over All a Very Good Tv Show a 9.5/10 But with A bit more Time It could Have Been an 11/10

[@sooskes1525]

it's a 10/10 for me still i didn't have the problem that many had cause i kinda liked getting overwhelmed by character developments and story progressions. it felt so intense that i literally cried for 30 minutes straight. my body was literally shaking

[@sousat.]

​@@sooskes1525 yeah, me too. I think all the criticism to the season is valid, but it all applies to S1 too. S1's ending was rushed too, the conclusion to all the story lines happened fast and abruptly with everyone's kidnapping and Silco's death. And, I mean, it all happened in the same episode they broke a peace treaty. So, my point is, the show did not drop in quality, it simply could not right its wrong bc of budget and time (not going to defend Riot but the show indeed almost sank the company :D)

[@Merilirem]

I think it was fine because it wasn't supposed to be a full ending that tied up everything. It was telling a story and it did that. All the leftover stuff is part of different stories we might tell later.

[@vincentsolus9227]

08:30 even the end kind hint that Jinx maybe still alive, well, that Caitlyn has at least 1% of hope on that, and will not stop looking so soon

[@Yo0264]

Next Setting i'd love, Noxus colony on Ionia. First episode could be a Funeral for Ambessa with flashbacks

[@jpanan4225]

I always wanted to see Zed, Shen, and Jhin story in action

[@tommy2051]

Me too!!

[@Aurol_Sol]

There's a longer scene. Good. ... Hackers, you know what to do.

[@sortilien2099]

Don't, don't delay future project.

[@szalyn8849]

@@sortilien2099 Lowkey worth??

[@joannah4587]

10:53 the caitvi scene was dialed back??? 😭😭

[@UnDefinedLegacy]

We need the NC-17 cut

[@collecter343]

Jesus Christ, what was the initial one supposed to be!?!

[@blackice8634]

Eh, I was happy that they finally got back together but the timing was seriously so dumb. Vi is pretty much thinking at that moment her sister is committing suicide and she goes down on Cait. Needed to be workshopped a bit to not be so terrible with the timing part of it

[@SahilP2648]

@@collecter343 he said it was more mature so most likely full frontal upper body

[@ProxyDoug]

I'm sure the scene will be expanded... unofficially

[@boricuadereck9382]

I find it hard to believe that Viktor never had any projects/inventions of his own in his own lab. Don’t think he would only work on Heimerdingers projects while his assistant. Would be nice to think that Blitzcrank was a project he never finished because he couldn’t make the final step of powering him up like he wished. This could be done with hextech but he threw all of his own projects aside to focus on hextech, and later, his own life. Would be nice if this was the case and someone in the future finds it and finishes it for him using hextech so there is somewhat a connection to Viktor. Alternatively I wouldn’t mind Blitzcrank being an Ekko invention in the future as well. So many ways to revive stories of future characters and not neglect them, yes they will change but some things were going to have to change. My only fear is, how long until they revisit Piltover and Zaun to see these characters and new stories come to fruition?

[@sassuskrassus3166]

49:15 for all the WW mains out here

[@brommel_]

I hope he'll be the Wolf in some time

[@BlackScisir]

Damage control. Sorry to say it.

[@ZauniteWerewolf]

“Who knows”. Ok. Thanks.

[@vvgr409]

@@BlackScisir It could be worse, he could say that his game appearance is no longer canon.

[@moremoneyplease6838]

@@vvgr409 wouldn't that OBVIOUSLY lead to an massive backlash ? because I think now we can say for sure most people are massively disappointed with his depiction in arcane.. and a backlash on that topic would kind of mean ruining arcane season 2 for a lot of people especially people who actually play the game / played since way before arcane?

[@sweggieboi4928]

Ok I am respectfully asking for whoever it is in Fortiche with Vi and Caitlyn's uncut scene to release it

[@colossaldonut5190]

We got Necrit in his pajamas and a ton of new lore? A blessed upload indeed.

[@reneerinnovasi2353]

I never played league.. but I love arcane. I think when you can draw fandom from everywhere and appeal to everyone thro story. That’s so special and powerful..I know so many people who now love the show now… And now I’m invested in learning more of the lore and these characters. But story telling is so powerful… honestly this is one of the best thing I’ve seen, and the way it has impacted a lot of people. So thank you

[@AmericanReject1]

@necrit i have my theory that the invasion of ionia is over: In the scene when Ambessa is training Caitlyn on her ship she teaches her about the 3 principles of noxus. Those 3 principles are the 3 pillars that swain founded after taking over l

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

I always got the impression that the three principles were already part of nox culture and swain just made use of them

[@80AM.]

so? they don't have to follow this timeline for their next project.

[@sergioq94]

The three principles already existed, and swain created the triad inspired by them, the triad is not created yet, as Leblanc would be the leader.

[@notsure9301]

I really think that arcane season 2 was cool, but it was obviously too rushed narrative wise. They could have made 3 seasons with the amount of story they crammed into one season. Vi joining the enforcers and hunting jinx, vi/jinx hunting down warwick and warwick finding his humanity, viktor turning evil and trying to turn the whole world into his kingdom. Could have been all their own season and ham fisting them into one made for fun moments and cool little things but it really felt like LOOK AT THIS COOL THING, LOOK AT THIS OTHER UNRELATED COOL THING NOW THIS OTHER COOL THING. without a moment to sit in any of it and actually experience it in the same way we got to sit with season one. And the parts of the whole really suffered and i felt rushed through the season.

[@cwilliams7630]

Riot and Fortiche are effectively babies when it comes to crafting and developing movies and television. As time goes on and they develop their muscles, future projects will only be better.

[@Krutonkreatura]

True

[@janah6473]

Which is odd, because Season 1 was SO MUCH BETTER than season 2.

[@cwilliams7630]

@@janah6473 tha varies depending who you're asking. Beyond that, both seasons were developed simultaneously. I have faith that they'll learn from certain criticisms & mistakes and come back stronger in the future.

[@DespairBear]

@@janah6473 No. Season 2 is better than Season 1

[@Merilirem]

@@janah6473 It wasn't. You just liked it more. I find a lot of peoples complains are actually just them not liking the direction rather than actual mistakes Riot made.

[@TheCoolcaspar]

There should honestly just have been 3 seasons, there was just no freaking way of wrapping it all up in the time that they gave. After season 2 episode 6, i became extremely worried because it was setting so many fantastic plotpoints up, that could weave in so many insane directions, but simultaneous left no room in what the series had left to fully explore it. Like if they had like one more arc in the season, 3 extra episodes, i think it could have worked, or again another season, this series could have reached insane places. But with what we got it unfortunally just became extremely rushed in the finale arc. And credit where it is due, they did manage somehow tk wrap it up kinda, but with no room to breathe, no room to really have the impact that this amazing story deserves, it really makes me quite sad, and wonder, what could have been...

[@Top_Knite]

I feel like 3 seasons would be too long for the story they wanted to tell, but I definitely think they could've done an extra arc for season 2 just to flesh out some things and give more time to breath like you said for some of the characters and events

[@molsy1768]

Was it just me that felt unsatisfied with the shows ending? Dozens of questions left unanswered, with the faint hope that we get answers in a new show, which means ill need to wait for a decade(s) to just get confirmation and a satisfying conclusion. Its a real shame, season 1 was exceptional, but season 2 just didnt resolve anywhere near enough questions to be a finale.

[@janah6473]

Its odd. The zeitgeist right now seems to favor a never ending stream of cliffhangers. Like shows just don't end properly anymore. There is always a need for "the unknown" to exist. Its kind of lame.

[@molsy1768]

@janah6473 I would be ok with one or two questions, and open ended situations like Jinx, but they basically resolved nothing. It also leaves me wondering about alot of the zaun and piltover LoL champs, but I guess that is only an issue for league players

[@kokoronatsuki694]

well because it's not meant to resolve anything because most of the stories are still ongoing. we are not at the endgame of the story. arcane is just the introduction to the current state of the lore. that's why it feels like it's not an ending at all the goals is to connect to the current lore not to end them.

[@molsy1768]

@kokoronatsuki694 so now we just wait a decade to find out what should have just been in a season 3? The existence of other shows does not excuse this show from not wrapping up its arcs. If there was a show every year, then sure, I could buy it, but at this rate, you're asking me to literally wait a decade just to get closure on characters that only requires 1 episode. That's bad writing. No author does that with their interconnected universes, it's ridiculous to even suggest that is acceptable. Timing matters. I won't give a shit in a decade.

[@pizzaguy4669]

@@molsy1768I agree with that. My main issue isn’t really with how the story ended it’s knowing how long I’m going to have to wait for whatever it is they have next.

[@Pedley143]

You dont understand how much i was anticipating a video from you after watching Act 3. I WAS SHOOK

[@vansserafim]

pretty much confirmed that mel is the new madarda leader

[@maxgehtdnixan4913]

She's better than Ambessa, but somehow, I can't bring myself to care about We Wuz Kangz conquering Noxus instead of Swain. So sick of crap like that.

[@Merilirem]

Pretty much? She's the only one left to lead lol. What more confirmation do you need?

[@RemixedYoshi]

As a wannabe voice actor i think it would be amazing to get to work with riot animation teams it seems fun.