Riot's Monetization Got Worse...

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[@narcis6467]

So KDA Gragas is on the pipeline, got it.

[@taylormaughan7428]

😂😂😂 we can keep hoping

[@estevanornelas]

Spit my coffee😂

[@epicfale5397]

Shit I'm down to be in his pipeline XDD

[@goldsm1th92]

Hope real star guardian urgot is on the pipeline

[@Svikthuset]

Yeah theres no fun allowed at Riot games nowadays. Its just gonna be Ezreal.

[@garou9914]

When riot said they'll have the biggest budget this year they meant the biggest budget to spend on making the most outrageous cosmetic monetization plans ever.

[@sasapsaful]

Big budget from lol/tft players wallet.

[@corporateturtle6005]

I mean... they sold out to and are now owned by a certain com country.

[@akskajd7138]

15 dollars a roll makes genshin seem normal, that's crazy

[@rasae4597]

ikr insane

[@djbubblegum9975]

Lots of gacha are way worse, but that doesn't make it better

[@barney2120]

Makes genshin seem normal LMFAO. Genshin pulling directly affects gameplay while being purely cosmetic in tft. People complain because its riot and people complain just to complain

[@christianprevost8455]

nah@@barney2120

[@liborsysel2234]

Its way too overpriced, but that only means that ppl should stop buying this. But it doesnt matter at all, yet u can see ppl calling it Pay ro win... Dont ever compare it to games where rolls directly upgrades your strenght

[@cole_box]

Honestly I thought TFT had a tolerable monetization scheme before treasure trove. I was fine spending a little for the chibi skins when it was eggs for chibis especially since the drop rate was higher, but after the drop rate nerf it feels way more gacha/monetarily hungry than before :(

[@Shinyolo]

In a gacha is is literally power the gacha is about, this is just a different chibi that you would use maybe 10 times and then switch back to your prefered tactician you always use anyway. I mean sure it sucks, but it's not comparable.

[@faustsies1366]

then dont buy it?

[@irrelevant12]

i dont get people´s reasoning, you have a game in which money doesnt affect gameplay in any way. No one is asking you to buy anything if you want to buy them that is your prerogative and yet you have people complaining that they "cant afford them" so wtf do you do in the real world? do you go to the car dealers and tell them that you are very displeased that because you are poor they are hurting you by having high prices? I swear this is a kids nowdays issue only, Like the only thing you would never criticize riot for is their ethical monetization system and yet we have statements like this.

[@Sparkofshurima]

i think its better now since you dont have to buy it all at once. now you can take a few months and only buy the season passes and you dont lose all your progress towards the mythic one. to me it seems more friendly towards low spenders.

[@Crylz...]

Treasure trove ... i was hoping i would never hear of that cursed mechanic name outside korean mmorpgs like Blade and Soul that irreversibly ruined the game. Well, as long as it's not the only reasonable source of cosmetics or anything progress related, it sounds like it should be fine

[@omgodification]

Riot seems to be confusing prestige with exclusivity as of late. Prestige is defined as "Inspiring [of] respect and admiration; having high status." Exclusive, meanwhile, is defined as "Restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned." The only kind of admiration that buying a $200 skin will get you is for how much you're willing to splurge on a chroma. Edit: we found the whales lol Edit 2: god damn the salt!

[@ariCM13]

I mean they can go together imo

[@CalaTec]

Prestige was meant to be exclusivity from the very beginning, Riot just realised that it can be even more "exclusive". When I said Riot realised, I mean they saw there are some people willing to spend even more money than they expected at first. The only difference is that, at first, it was meant to be exclusive but somewhat obtainable for everyone and now they want to go full exclusive mode.

[@toopink4death492]

I mean the difference between Prestige and Exclusive is already blurred, so in essence they're the same, there's like a very small percentage of players that already own at least one Prestige Skin.

[@omgodification]

They can, the problem is that they're not doing so

[@queendread4427]

Problem is, while the price tag indirectly makes these items exclusive for certain groups, it isn't actually exclusive to those groups. If you're *really* dedicated you can get it anyways

[@Mediados]

For every 100k people ridiculing this, there is at least 1 person seriously contemplating this purchase. So as long as this happens it will continue.

[@yuzuhibiki]

As someone that hasn't spend a dime on league since they introduce lootbox in the system, this is the result of the consumers being willing to buy everything they spit out to "collect" every skin of their favorite champion. It's not really an issue since at the end of the day, the people spending hundreds just to get a outfit for a digital char are the only one suffering.

[@maxenite]

Spending on just your favorite is okay. Imagine you're Ornn main. You can buy 3 skin. Or Kayn main. You can buy 5 and you'll get a new skin every 2 or 3 years. Problem is some people have mental problems like they feel like they have to buy every new skin.

[@maxenite]

I had so many friends that they can't even play League good. They suck so hard and all of them have 400-500 skins on their accounts.

[@ADoomain]

​@@maxenitegatekeeping someones wallet because they arent good. Truly a league player moment

[@andreamarques8328]

I think spending some money on your fav champs after idk thousand of ours of free gameplay is pretty okay, lootboxes tho, never okay specially in a game that children can access

[@octaviansimu2596]

lux mains :)))@@maxenite

[@biggsmike9526]

Remember when Hextech Annie was the most expensive and gacha skin? Anyone remember how much that used to cost on average?

[@nicolasarroyo1746]

and the worst mythic skin

[@VLikaru]

It was luck, but around 100 to 200 bucks

[@shino4019]

people were screaming when i played that skin back in the days, now mythic skins are literally just epic skins behind a battle pass

[@tmmste]

mythic skins were good since they are "exclusive" but riot just relased the thing called mythic shop which ruins the whole exclusive content behind the prestige skins even holiday skins are more exclusive than prestiges skins at this point even riot know that so they have to make something really "exclusive" with the gacha system on tft no one complained about that because tft players are actually have brain but when they bring the gacha on league which is litearly an COSMETIC autistic league comminity will obv blame on it. im sure those peoples are not even buying the skins on your shop and still complain about gacha jhin skin litearly an league moment. and yeah its devs fault to bring a system called mythic shop which you can buy "exclusive" skins that people pay for years ago with mythic essence which is easy to get actually. i hope they just remove prestiges from mythic shop those hextech or other mythic skins can stay in the mythic shop@@shino4019

[@Tacet137]

I remember people's reaction when I had it back then, now no one cares about your "prestige" skin

[@dunkmate9136]

I feel like we're slowly going in the direction of how Garena used to be and that is very scary to think about...

[@Vernardo]

Well since SG/MY finally got their server from the hand of RIOT, that could be happened.

[@dudendr777]

As a Garena immigrant myself, I do feel a lot of de javu from the current action of Riot. Riot did LEARN A LOT from Garena...

[@kawaiiVietCong]

I really dont give a shit even if Riot sell skin with the price of a real mountain. More money for them more content for me

[@barney2120]

​@@kawaiiVietCongPeople bitchin for pure cosmetics because its riot while playing genshin and being happy spending for power

[@silco5343]

@@dudendr777 I prefer garena. at least the skins are affordable not 200 frigin dollars

[@PixeletDan]

everyday I'm bummed that LoR is so free to play. I truly wish the game could generate more revenue so we could get more guardians and boards and skins on a more rapid cadence. I love the game to death and the team is incredible. But man, sometimes it makes me sad that we're "too f2p for our own good." It stops people from even playing the game, for some reason

[@ronlanders7354]

If it's extremely popular maybe, but it's just one of the many card games.

[@PixeletDan]

@@ronlanders7354 but it's a card game for riot's universe, you'd expect that to help carry its own. people LOVE the universe of Runeterra

[@AzureRoxe]

@@PixeletDan They do, they just won't pay money to Riot.

[@ShadowPhoenix82]

​@@PixeletDanit's not making people stop paying, and it is a popular game, but other than battle pass, what is there to buy? Only streamers are going to buy EVERY skin and board. If you like it, get it but no gamers are pressured to buy what they don't want and they shouldn't be. I don't have solutions, but we just need new reasons to invest consistently. The game is loved, though. That's not the problem.

[@PixeletDan]

@@ShadowPhoenix82 The game could be loved by Riot moreso, is the issue. they've downsize the team while not really reinvesting or putting proper resources into it. The game receives almost 0 advertising which sucks. I agree that I think the best value is the battle pass and even then, as a huge fan of the game, those aren't even fantastic anymore. But yeah, more stuff to spend money on would be best. Emporium is a nice step in the right direction. Otherwise, Riot needs to help support the game just as much as we fans are

[@colossaldonut5190]

To be fair this has been happening with TFT all the time. We get these chibis all the time.

[@wolhaiiik5387]

but that's like double the price of a chibi skin, plus isn't it just a recolor too..

[@KittenCritters]

What 500€ cosmetic has Been previously in TFT?

[@mariapaz6379]

i honestly think people who pay for the chibis are morons, regardless of the price. the animation is the best part, but it does get tiresome and you miss out time to plan your next board, a pay to lose situation.

[@Schmaeil]

if people want it/can afford it and it keeps the game alive i see nothing wrong with them buying and it being in game@@mariapaz6379

[@heromedley]

you said all the time twice

[@TheJamieellis]

I'm already not a fan of the gacha/lootbox aspect of TFT considering League just lets you buy skins normally, but the fact we're getting over-priced prestige skins for chibis when we haven't even gotten a majority of the actual cast as Chibis, is wild. We could be appealing to more players of various champs... not just giving Yasuo more cosmetics like normal league...

[@ConZedtration]

I swear if Necrit said, "but hey, it's just a theory, A NECRIT THEORY" I wouldn't be alive typing this.

[@apunnojustice7475]

Admittedly, I may be the target audience for the jhin chroma. I have perhaps spent An Amount of money on league skins in the past, and I pride myself on having every single jhin skin and chroma possible. But I didnt even try to get the skin. Somehow i, a disgustingly dedicated jhin main didnt even want it. thats a little sad, riot.

[@ronlanders7354]

Is okay to whale to have some fun but sometimes games take it too far.

[@NN-en5kl]

i liked it and bought it as a non jhin player bc it is so rare

[@apunnojustice7475]

@@NN-en5kl so you spent how much on a chroma for a character you dont main because riot told you that those are the special pixels that the poor people dont have?

[@GoodMrFe]

The thing is that while money is certainly important in game development it is also very slippery slope once you start to do these kind of things. It can go very very wrong. I think the best way to cash in on the whales I've seen over the years is done by Jagex where they have completely different version of the same game (Runescape 3) where you can buy progress and MTX is a more common thing. RS3 plays that ''devil's advocate'' for RS community. Reason why I react to this case with Riot negatively is because the formula of ''big company'' + ''heavy monetization'' + ''F2P'' seems like that slippery slope in full action. You start with a loot box, you add a battle pass, you add insanely expensive chroma, you add another, another... And right here we can also see they are not afraid of doing it for each game they own and run under the Riot name. I guess runeterra is most untouched when it comes to MTX? I don't play it or follow it. But the fact they add these things, at least to me seems like a recipe for disaster. I've seen it many times where greed of company completely and utterly destroyes the game integrity (Nexon, all the korean MMOs, etc).

[@saintlarfleeze3551]

My only issue is that I am a HUGE League whale and even I didn't spend anything on the Jhin skin. I just couldn't rationalise it at all. It was so low effort.

[@thanhao5500]

same

[@ebox147]

This is what normalisation of 50, 100, 200 bucks for a cosmetic leads to, and no one should fall for their explanations of needing to fund the games; riot is one of the most lucrative game companies out there, even without these schemez

[@elitacoelho5672]

i unlocked all the champions this year, i love how it feels like an acomplishment

[@etiennebarre6226]

time to invest in riot games or Tencent or something. i see a massive increase of revenue in the future, dont ask me why.

[@andreamarques8328]

The substantial increase in revenue will happen when the MMO is out prolly

[@aliwi3476]

Chinese people huge whale's $$$ especially if it's Chinese theme

[@telkaivokalma]

Reading through the reddit comments I'm gonna tear my hair out. This just existing is insane. "Devs need to eat". Delusional.

[@alexandrul.9910]

they do i always find it stupid when people are complaining about skin prices, in a free to play game... If you dont have the money dont buy the skin is that simple. It gives you 0 advantage in game, why should you care?

[@telkaivokalma]

@alexandrul.9910 Because it's about the industry as a whole. It's about standards being set. It's about principles, of which you apparently have none. "Free to play game, they need the money." Meanwhile, they are making hand over fist dollars with half the features over any regular priced game. "If you don't have the money, then sit down, poor person." This is the defense of garbage business practices? This is insane. If these prices are there for whales, then why not set the price at 500 dollars? Who benefits from the rng system? Who is it for? It's to make money off people with problems and obfuscate the price to people not paying attention. This is the problem. Set the price at 500 and ef off with the gambling garbo.

[@michaeltaylor788]

@@telkaivokalmait fine they need to make money for the game to continue.

[@3ΘΕΌΣ6]

Its the new CEO i tell you

[@xavierarial24]

The current CEO still won't be stepping down until the end of 2023. Plus these type of things are way way below CEO levels.

[@iTzMeLaur]

Or you could simply say tft had an advantage because it was integrated in the League of Legends Client, when Legends Of Runeterra wasn't.

[@Defi4nc3s1]

They can still integrate it, but it will limit the whole game (you don't need a 10+ year client).

[@keptfinding]

completely and totally unrelated and super late but i was chilling in que and reading champion lore (new to this whole lore thing) and when necrit started speaking he scared me, my eyes watered

[@viiy9429]

On the "update on skins" side where riot published a list of upcoming prestige skins, the two champiosn left are Camille, and.... Yone. So i guess boyband yone is sure already

[@Vantasiaz0ckt]

I dont get why people are mad about this stuff. You think its to much than don’t buy it and be happy that people pay that much for it because it keeps the game alive. You are willing to pay that much for a skin go for it and thank you for keeping my fav online game alive.

[@Vantasiaz0ckt]

People srsly beeing mad about this but still play Genthin, SW etc. are the worst kind. These Games are basicly pay to play in a free to play game.

[@MrRobin1997]

honestly who cares what they charge for skins? it's just cosmetics, as long as they don't give any advantage for gameplay they could charge 1k for a skin and i honestly wouldn't care in the slightest

[@teo2809]

i have a genuine question to people who dont like/get mad at this type of monatization ¿why does a high prize of a thing that doesnt impact the game in a free to play game is bad? like for me doesn't make any sense to hate that, if you think it costs to much money just dont buy it, what about not buying a thing you dont want to buy makes it a bad addition to the game? i would really like to have a response beacouse i would like to know how yall think. *btw sorry if i wrote like sht, im not english native and have dislexia so its kinda hard for me xd.

[@spectrophobia4042]

my biggest problem with tft's monetization is the scaling back of free rewards. you used to get eggs with the free battle pass but now you only get the tokens for the gatcha, forcing people to interact with that system, and you dont even get enough tokens to roll until a bit into the battle pass.

[@laurenttelmosse3375]

Honestly im fine with whales buying those prestige if it keeps the game alive. What i dont like is the fact that the last time an arena was release without a gatcha system was like 2 years ago.

[@tomasbrombergzelaya6366]

I am 20 seconds into the video but I NEED to know where you got that sans shirt man, it has to be the coolest undertale merch Ive ever seen.

[@Crusader3454]

im gonna stand by what i said, they should sell the end goal of the gacha systems as a 200$ pack with the gacha capsules, to avoid controversy just dont promise anything unique behind gacha, and probably never directly sell gacha

[@Aquilla842]

14:44 ‘s Oh thank god has everyone in this dead silent restaurant looking at me choking on ice cream from laughter, thanks Necrit

[@thoby123]

I love how this video already needs a sequel for Redeemed Star Guardian 😊

[@creativname7599]

is comparing tft to genshin really valid, yes both have gacha but in Genshin you can unlock different playable characters that alter how you play, where as in tft you can only unlock cosmetics

[@aliwi3476]

You save primos to unlock character , but you never get those chibis without spending money

[@WhatWillYouFind]

We need regulations, full stop.

[@Creepy___]

Honestly this is the first time I heard that the original Dragonmancer Yasuo was expensive like that... I literally got him from the first egg you got from the pass during that time and used him. Everyone probably thought I was a dumb whale instead of just a lucky mfer, man

[@shmwck]

I am almost completely fine with Riot introducing $200 chromas, etc. If I see someone using one of them in one of my games, I might even think, "thank you, random citizen, for paying for this game so that I can play." Riot has even done a very good job of not making things pay-to-win. I don't even mind them releasing cosmetics marketed towards whales, as long as it doesn't significantly interrupt the release of features for normal players (why should I care if they released a $200 chroma, it probably took them like an hour to make and most of that was for the splash art. It doesn't keep me from getting new things, and I'm not buying it, so it doesn't really affect me. That chroma probably pays for itself if even one gets sold, if you think about it it's a really efficient way for them to raise funds for new features and stuff). There are only 2 things that concern me about their monetization, but they concern me a lot: 1) It's a gacha system, with an in-game premium currency. In-game premium currencies are specifically intended to keep people from really understanding how much money they're spending on something, while gacha systems are intended to be addictive. The combination of the two will probably draw in people who really can't afford to be spending the money on the game, and points towards an increasing likelihood of scummy monetization methods in the future. 2) I'm hesitantly looking forwards to the Riot MMO set to come out in a few years, but if I compare Riot's progress in monetization to Blizzard's, the Riot MMO will come out looking like Diablo IV or Diablo Immortals (in terms of monetization). I think an MMO would be great for League's lore and League's popularity, and I think an MMO set in League's universe could be amazing. However, if they gutted the game and made you pay extra to get individual features that should really be part of the base game, or if they made it pay to win, it would be ruined for me. If they did that to League, I would leave.

[@nino3753]

You can buy cards in Legends of Runeterra.

[@Geraf25]

"Biggest budget ever"

[@dark_demon2522]

,,Calm down,, we got a ,,new gamemode,, (for a few weeks)

[@egirlTyrande]

@@dark_demon2522 and they even constructed the mode between the normal goals they needed to reach

[@dummyburner7781]

"different tech foundation" they said... surely that's the main reason, and not the fact that china will eat these cosmetics like cookies on a jar.

[@AverageHeavyMann]

Wanna know what RIOT does with the revenue money? Pay their lawyers.

[@HaunterV]

Why? Are they up to no good?

[@nightclubkrow]

@@HaunterV ask the female employees lol

[@huntersuper98]

@@nightclubkrow Ah yes the lawsuit that was handled 2 years ago at this point lol. Unless there is a new one that no one is talking about that court case was settled a long time ago.

[@AverageHeavyMann]

My brother in Karl,@@HaunterV , RIOT is *always* up to no good.

[@AverageHeavyMann]

I'll bet my favorite pair of boots that there's something happening as we speak,@@huntersuper98

[@brainfreeze7549]

I got a mythic pengu instead of Chibi Star Guardian Lux because there was a bug at launch and the support team said oops our mistake heres ur eggs back so u can try again and buy more eggs to get her AND SUPRISINGLY NO OTHER MYTHIC WAS DROPPED

[@jormundo7765]

If they keep the monetaization on cosmetics I will never have a problem with it. Love their games, if they offer people things to spend on I just dont see a problem with it. There is 0 real reason to spend on skins so there is little to no coercive action here. If someone wants to spend 100k on a limited edition pair of shoes no one cares (dont come at me with "but they have a use" because no they dont, less than 1% of the money spent went to the "use" so if selling exclusive of premium skins gets them more founds and some of them are re invested into the game its a pluss for all.

[@ghostshrimp5006]

It always starts there, it’s just cosmetic, it’s just one character it’s for a special event anyway, it’s just this one banner the giant company needs to get their money somehow, it’s just $50 you might find something interesting in the loot box this time, dude just give them your money it’s only four characters a location and 12 weapons you don’t wanna be a loser do you? Never trust massive companies

[@Bunnyblaster12]

@@ghostshrimp5006 while caution is very fair and Riot may eventually turn to the darker side of monetization (I fear slightly for the mmo), nothing Riot has as of yet is paying for power and until they break that nearly 15 year streak I will tentatively trust them. I am not buying any of these cosmetics anyways so I'll just play till the gameplay becomes p2w

[@ghostshrimp5006]

@@Bunnyblaster12 It’s hard to trust him with how they treat their art and writer team

[@朱仔-e8l]

I don't know why people are upset, I have a thought like: just don't buy it?💩, I mean like all companies need to make money, even though you think it is too expensive, then just don't buy it then, where is the anger coming and going

[@朱仔-e8l]

p.s. I am a free to play😂

[@markos50100]

I thought the alternate skin already had a unique finisher. Now I'll need to be tempted by a prestige star guardian ahri tactician...

[@Momogamer9]

ez just swipe 500

[@dadness]

Wasn't prepared to be reminded that Lineage 2 still exists at the end like that.

[@FeralCreaturrr]

i've already forked over $500 for tft cosmetics so i'll wait until prestige teemo to give them 500 more

[@elementalwaterangel5451]

I thought i was delusional, and then Riot walked in… damn

[@Vernafveik]

Very brave of Riot to add a £500 bookmark to let people know to avoid talking to you

[@winpik237]

Free to play games are literally becoming the definition of “give them a hand and they'll take an arm”, but they also take all of your organs too.

[@alexandrul.9910]

someone needs to pay for the MMO i guess

[@abadyr_]

In LoR, you can still pay for individual cards (wildcards). And if you want the complete collection without spending a year playing the game daily, you need to. It much fairer than buying random cards in pack, but it should be enough to sustain the game really... I don't get why it isn't, it takes a lot of time to craft a handful of competitive decks, and it's better to have different ones lest the game become too repetitive. If LoR can attract new players and retain them for a couple of rotations, they should be reasonably tempted to spend a bit to craft new decks, because it's not easy to get new champions and epic cards and because the battle pass provide enough value to be attractive Imo... I wonder if making the crafting of numerous cards quickly less tedious would help.

[@stelvi0]

"u will get less amazing content" Funny how despite the price of prestige skins and all the other cosmetics we still have such an amazing way to consume Lore Or amazing events like Ruination (and Soul Fighter despite being a cool mode isn't an event in my honest opinion) Or the many many reworks we have choose whit a community poll 😊

[@a_crate]

i hate chibi champions with passion, what i hate more than them are their finishers tho

[@PykeTheRipper]

The Boy band is called "One Shot", Yone is getting the prestige in league 5 or more champs in the band i dont remember correctly

[@loubalto5956]

I hate getting hit with their finisher! It’s so tilting can’t riot make it so only the person with the chibi sees it. I don’t want chibis for myself and i don’t dont want a screen spasm when i lose to a certain person. 😓

[@egilzroshi9737]

Honestly, as tft player, i am absolutely fine with them releasing a 500$ skin or even 1000$ skin. Why not? Unlike LoL, where skins may affect gameplay (skill visibility, sound diff), in tft, there is absolutely no impact. I will never touch anything above 15$, as my budget is already strained as is, but if thanks to them releasing expensive skins, the game gets more funding and gets more fun, then don't we all win? Isn't it great?

[@KindredDoomBot]

They are replacing FOMO with FOHTW. Fear of having to wait for it to appear in the rotating shop xD

[@Yuuki-SJ]

I still find it bullshit that Riot is saying that they arent making money aside from the whales when they have millions upon millions of players and I have met like 4 out of 200 ppl who dont buy skins. I used that as an example bc of how rare it is to find someone who doesnt. Ive been playing since 2012 and that number still stands.

[@Vulpcana]

Played with a dude who bought the Jhin chroma skin and we spammed whale calls in the chat well deserved

[@snowpegasi]

Good, bully these "people" every purchase of BS like that tells Riot they can push even further.

[@Eloi_Hernandez]

@@pimpin3603Fr. And I appreciate whales because they pay for the game for the rest of us 😭

[@PincKen]

so like you bullied someone who makes more than you?

[@vincenth.8709]

This guy's the parasite that doesn't realize once he kills the host he dies too💀.

[@joaoteodororeis2051]

Why shame the peopl who pay so that the rest of the community can enjoy a free to play game? Like, do you just get off on being edgy? Or just genuinely envious of other peoples money?

[@gytis321s2]

I don't see why people are mad for whales paying for Art. They support your game. Be happy

[@1Henrink]

The argument of "targeting the whales" doesn't go very far, when people that shouldn't spend on these, fill pressured to by. This is all very predatory

[@jedinad6593]

I hope the new music band is a return of true damage. KDA had a comeback, and so did penta-kill. Then again, the only reason I want true damage to come back is so Ekko can get a new skin lol.

[@Sasorislovery]

True I’m kinda upset Kda and pentakill got a comeback but not true damage. I love all 3 of them.

[@Jeff55369]

As long as they're only cosmetic, I don't care of riot wants to sell them for 10k USD. Obviously they'll have to price them so people will feel like there's value there, but people who complain about cosmetics they can't afford need a reality check. I kind of think it would be funny if a company released a line of cosmetics, that increased in price with the number of people who bought them. I suppose that sounds a bit predatory / scummy sales tactic... but we're still talking about cosmetics here. It's not like it's food or a drug someone needs to live.

[@christofferandersen1906]

I think the issue with LOR being selling only customisation is that the customisation is bad/lacking. no animated cards, almost no unique VFX etc. I feel that some physical tcg has better customisation.

[@kbenameashna5473]

the bald goblin will attack soon

[@ItThatStares]

8:42 smh shouldve said BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY - A GAME THEORY

[@CynicalReprobate]

After a decade of relationship with Riot Games and League of Legends, moving over to Dota2 has been an amazing fresh experience, especially with cosmetics and microtransactions in general, both are incredibly cheaper compare to League, aside from the cheap pricing of skin sets, you can buy individual pieces and make your own sets which may even be cheaper compare to the hero's currently available sets while still giving you a satisfactory cosmetic change. Dota2 also has gacha boxes but they show you predetermined sets you would get and not a giant pool of ever growing cosmetics, and after getting a set, depending on the Treasure, it's either a guaranteed on a different set until it rolls the set you want or if it's a dupe, you can convert them to points in which you can buy other cosmetics. The best part out of all this is that some cosmetics are resellable which you can use that money for something else not just in Dota2, making the game inherently very wallet friendly.

[@mummifiedwanderer]

"And now presenting the uber super double ultra supreme prestige skin for this character. It only costs you 1 million dollars."

[@captainkuro123]

This is just flat out messed up how much work was put into making this compared to any other legendary or even an ultimate scan That's always been my problem with monetization just let me buy the damn thing for what it's actually worth if you did a good enough job you don't make enough money and yes I know everyone has their own taste and their own thoughts on how much something's worth but if you have a base that's easy to figure out

[@Chaoslordx13]

*heavy breathing and sweating* "Man the harpoons Fellow riot team members!" *labored breathing and struggling to rise from gold encrusted Mobility scooters* "We will feast on.. *que snorting and wheezing as raising bloated arm holding gold harpoon* the whales!"

[@chez-bubulle]

Anybody who thinks all this is expensive should check summoner's war's pricing

[@aptq9116]

I cant help by wonder what if instead of giving Jhin Chroma they would introduce at 200 dolars map skins? that could work no?

[@raniellelopez5653]

How would map cosmetics work tho?? What if you bought 1 and someone in your team also bought 1 and someone from the enemy team bought 1.. how would that work?? Which map would be the one you guys use??

[@phoenixflamegames1]

At least that would be something new

[@aptq9116]

@@raniellelopez5653 perhaps only you could see it, while in game one can be chosen at random?

[@yorickvlt1021]

Don't know if it's possible with how old the client is, but since it's a skin and doesn't change gameplay, you could just display it differently for every player. Removes the "flex" element though.

[@raniellelopez5653]

@@aptq9116 well that's pretty useless then the reason cosmetics exist is so you can show it off.. if you want a map skin that only you can see might aswell just use modskins.. completely free and pretty safe to use

[@thekilla1234]

It's like CoD prestige but IRL. You spend time building up $500 and then reset back to $0 to get some different pixels on your screen.

[@omegax9053]

i got the normal dragonmancer yasuo on the free egg , they stoped the free egs for a new gacha sistem :)

[@rogancalypso5041]

remember, the skins are cosmetic......so far!

[@Xaviinn]

As someone who owns a special chibi and the 100$ board (I was very depressed when I got both of these) I’m completely fine not ever owning a prestige chibi.

[@Kwispian]

Its super random question but from where you got that tshirt? Its awesome!

[@sike024]

I literally don't understand what the fuss is all about. The game is free, there is no advantage that you can buy within the games. If you don't want to buy it then just ignore it.

[@bucket3924]

While 500$ for a skin is insanity, we must remember that the skins with the lower price tags are still insanely cool. The base chibi gwen is both affordable and incredibly looking so i don't really care whether they push the boundaries even more so long as they won't forget about the low to mid range price cosmetics.

[@Tremulant887]

Glad to see Riot getting some heat with a sprinkle of understanding. I played LoL from beta until they went back on their promise to never release event/holiday skins again.

[@hmmm.324]

In Game Development, it shall always be a battle between: Passion Or Money Incorporating both would be ideal, but such a game takes a lot of time, effort, and talent, and it usually isnt free to play.

[@faselfasel2864]

i actually couldnt care less if they introduce stuff for 500$, 1000$ or 10k. If there are idiots buying this stuff to feel special, more power to them. As long as there is absolutely no pay2win element attached to it, i won't care at all.

[@yengoooo]

Right! People are so entitled and it shows from the reactions. You get a free game and free in game items as well. It doesn't affect your probability of winning.

[@eloaba57]

For that amount of dollar i get it tattooed full color on my arm lol

[@tuckerbeauchamp8192]

I had no idea Dragonmancer Yasuo was $200. I bought a single capsule and got it. I thought it was a guaranteed drop...

[@dark_demon2522]

Nice Undertale-Shirt

[@itsalluck]

Tie this up neatly with a trade system between players knot and we're balling guys

[@Raiko01]

to be fair, its just a skin. If it allows the game to be funded while keeping it f2p, fantastic.

[@paulflemister4737]

This will not affect TFT that much honestly, Necrit! I agree that the price is questionable but it's a F2P game and once it comes to cosmetics... yeah I would not care...

[@michaelangello1327]

14:42 I cracked up and spit coffee after man

[@Megumi646]

I used to be a whale due to undiagnosed and unmedicated ADHD until 4 years ago. No joke. I spent my first paycheck on mobile games and League skins while I was in a homeless shelter. TFT got too pricey like last year, but this is ridiculous. Uninstalled and stopped playing as soon as the Barons came out. Thank god for psychiatrists. I'm actually getting my debt down. Otherwise, I would probably be in such a huge hole, but at least I would have this and that $200 Jhin chroma skin XD Obviously, no thank you.

[@Girroty001]

RIOT will never give us our Hillbilly BlueGrass music group Ft Gragas Ivern Malphite and Neeko

[@galdorg4996]

guys did riot hire Bobby Kotick?

[@dimitris2709]

I believe there is a connection between. Lunar Eclipse Nilah and coven

[@KingKaboose2000]

I was beyond happy to get the Mecha Malphite arena in 2 rolls

[@Synosss]

When he said another music band i was hoping True Damage but i was disappointed

[@nicovado]

The contrast between LoR team and others is insane honestly. With everything they do you can tell they poured their heart and skills out. Its kinda funny the same company uses game models from 2009 in League.

[@texasallstar6969]

Lol tft did so well that they got rid of giving us a free legendary little legend egg.

[@muzunomi]

Im betting the new band is yordle themed

[@EarlHare]

I love how you make a stab in the dark about a Kpop boyband and immediately Riot releases info to prove you wrong.

[@ElFritatta]

The thing with this kind of marketing is that it will always, -always- hit a few unfortunate people with latent gambling problems. I assume a lot of them will be people with money out the ears but there will be some people that spend way more than they should. Just sucks that this is an issue that will never ever be addressed by devs that have these systems in their games.