RIP Eruption

[@arandoml0gan117]

Bhvr can never just nerf something to make it still good but not oppressive, they just gut it

[@JS-my4jw]

Well, I can think of one exception. One nerf where even after being gutted, it's still good in the right hands. Dead Hard.

[@bullhuss]

@@JS-my4jw HAHAHAHAHA

[@arandoml0gan117]

@@JS-my4jw Fair enough

[@xORyuuOx]

@@JS-my4jw Coincidence?? I THINK NOT!

[@DwayneTheSquidJohnson]

@@JS-my4jw Even when nerfed, DH is still the most miserable perk known to man

[@Ikai6969]

A Moment of silence for Killers who already struggle in Chases and don't get rewarded anyway.

[@Luxor-ok9hj]

They nerfed bloodlust too some patches ago XD rip for people so sucks at chases like me

[@inter9104]

@@Luxor-ok9hj Didn’t they nerf bloodlust like four years ago? Or was it a different more recent nerf?

[@liandre9035]

im just glad i reached a point where i have ALL perks aviable on ANYONE. which was my main goal. Now if i am in the mood for playing killer i just go whatever. I will bring gen regression, i will tunnel 1 out early if i can. But if it doesnt work no point in trying, just get them to throw pallets personally and farm some more points for good add ons. Most of the time though i play survivor, why play the hard mode when you can play the side that is babysitted by the devs lol. even soloQ now is a trip in the park.

[@thatfishguy4991]

They really could’ve just made it only work for basic attacks and then boom it’s useless on half the roster, has some counterplay (like hopping in a locker or intentionally slow vaulting), and still rewards killers who need something like this to win.

[@foofoo1364]

​@@Luxor-ok9hj what they did for bloodlust?

[@sirgo0se97]

Not just nerfed fakin buried in the ground truly a rest in peace moment

[@kriszna7190]

When playing killer doesn't feel like being the killer anymore.

[@scarecrowscene443]

Remember when survivor mains thought the dead hard nerf was the end of the world

[@moonshiners-cv6kd]

i miss those days not having survivors use dead hard

[@TomyFoxy2014]

And... do u think that also applies for this? bruh...

[@Soupsunday]

And now they realized its even stronger and are using it just as much.

[@TomyFoxy2014]

@@Soupsunday is only useful when you use it on pallets, in any other situation is useless

[@gayloverboy9517]

Remember when killer mains thought the eruption , dead man switch and scourge pain nerf was the end of the world. Get better

[@thewackrat8854]

Next life of a killer main video: “Life of a depressing Skull Merchant main”

[@Herbster0]

A rework is what they did to dead hard. Eruption, pop , ruin and thana were abosutelly killed off to never be used again. Big difference .

[@hudman0590]

Not true thana is still used on the killers who used it in the first place. So basically just legion and plagut

[@eliasar5051]

@@hudman0590 Only bad legions who don´t know they are scamming themselves still use this crap... Or those who like to overstack themselves on slowdowns. There are better options even on killers who CAN run thana. It is not really about on which killer thana is good, it is about which killer can potentially use it at least to some degree...

[@Herbster0]

@@hudman0590 not true , even on those it is a bad pick. One cleanse or heal and it's effect are gone again .

[@liandre9035]

lol i forgot about thana. If anything that one was the most random, out of the blue, unneccessary nerf ever.

[@eliasar5051]

@@liandre9035 Tbf I too believe that buffing thana in the first place wasn´t a good idea. However, nerfing it to be way worse than the pre-buff version was just stupid overkill.

[@ItsNorthernStar]

Exactly my issue with how BHVR decides to change perks. They don't tweak perks that are trash or overly used. They fucking GUT them or entirely change the effect and over buff them. Why can't we tweak numbers and such? Instead we make perks entirely USELESS just to not just lower its pick rate, but DECIMATE them. I wish eruption was never buffed because I actually liked the original one. Then they made it actually GOOD and when it was used they taking it out back and kill it. Their ways of nerfing and buffing bad/super good perks is shit and it's getting tiring having all my options being more and more limited to a handful of good perks compared to a bunch of good perks

[@NameIsDoc]

They Gut them if they are KILLER perks. Survivors get slap on the wrist nerfs that barely effect how the perk is used and only after a mass revolt for killers.

[@spinutto]

Killer perks get gutted. Survivor perks get a sidegrade at worse, and a small buff at best. Even DS, which was the worst nerf to survivor's perks, is still usable. Iron Will still works at almost 100% when crouching. Self-Care still works with Botany. I don't even need to mention Dead Hard and Circle of Healing.

[@transcendtient]

LOL what is the "nerf not gut" middle ground? 10 seconds incapacitated? 20? Incapacitated is literally the worst status effect in the game.

[@spinutto]

@@transcendtient They nerfed blocked gens regressing in the same patch, so 10-15sec of gen block would be enough and on theme of the original effect.

[@liandre9035]

@@transcendtient they couldve had just get rid of incapacitated and block the gen instead for x seconds. But why on earth give the Pop goes the weasel treatment (which was btw my number 1 favorite perk pre nerf) and make it CURRENT regression. BHVR is survivor biased, it will never change. Meta perk rework proofed that where DH was still strong -> knight as a whole proofed it and the new killer even says to knight hold my beer, i can do it even worse.

[@misterwolf3817]

Nerf would be if they made incapicated 10 seconds. This is just "lmao Nemmy now has 1 perk" moment

[@Splonton]

They could've just removed the incapacitated and bumped it up to 15% or something but nooooo, they had to delete the whole thing 💀

[@JS-my4jw]

I think SpookyLoopz put it best. Whatever the current slowdown meta is, people complain about it and BHVR eventually nerf it into oblivion. It feels as though we're reaching a point, where as a killer, you can't run slowdown perks period. Either because you'll be cancelled on twitter or because BHVR will just make the perks obsolete.

[@pharaohthutmosis7803]

terminally online twitter survivor mains are not healthy people sound of mind

[@Hyphen372]

Survivor mains on twitterbshits on a killer for being p100 when they p100 a skin and think they're god tier for dcing against knight

[@sayturn8510]

Tbf I’d rather have ruin undying pop than eruption alone

[@mattiacicchetti4728]

@@sayturn8510 Same, but ruin has been ruined, so...

[@FinestFantasyVI]

So true. Later they gutted Pain Res and they give survs Scavenger

[@pharaohthutmosis7803]

Survivors:"why BVHR gotta kill my dead hard like that?! this is completely uncalled for and clear proof that all devs are killer mains" Killers: "Oh another super nerf on a perk and synergy that gives me more time to actually play the game, just another tuesday"

[@freddo_mason]

if u think eruption isnt busted af or that dh is busted then ur mentally disfigured

[@Hyphen372]

Bhvr has a fetish for gutting literally every killer perk lmao

[@spinutto]

I'll go on to add that every regression perk WILL get the "% of current progress" treatment, and Call of Brine, even though it's not that powerful when not paired with Eruption, WILL get nerfed, along with new Overcharge. Next victims will be Deadlock, Gift of Pain and Dead Man's Switch(again). They always nerf these perks, but the will NEVER ask themselves why are they needed in the first place. Toolboxes and survivor generator perks still give a lot more value than the Killer can handle.

[@scarlettpsychopath]

I'm a survivor main, but even I say this is uncalled for. Eruption was powerful but never detrimental to my games or how much fun I sometimes had. RIP Eruption

[@cyr2097]

It definitely needed a nerf but this was too much and in the wrong direction.

[@scarlettpsychopath]

@@cyr2097 I can agree with the needed nerf, but not the butchering of it completely

[@miketzartzalis906]

@@scarlettpsychopath who the fuck needs aura reading after so much work first u need to kick the gens then go and down someone and there is no quarntee that u hit someone with incapasitated but now there is no point to run it only for some spefic killers or builts

[@fredward_3713]

If they would have reduced the time from 25 to 10 seconds it would be fine tbh

[@Las_croquetoak_de_Txapote]

Oh yes, another perk that got Hillbillied. Then there's Dead hard, a perk that got "nerfed" but I still see it everywhere

[@Retalak]

Bhvr when "nerfing" deadhard: You can't deadhard for distance anymore but if you get hit you get a massive speed boost as if you had been hit and make even more distance than before Bhvr nerfing Eruption: 🗿💣💥💥💥💩

[@thornykettle112]

It's not a massive speed boost stop exaggerating. Dead Hard actually takes timing now so nine times out of ten you can bait it out. The only counter to Eruption was to have line of sight on the survivor about to go down or be in a swf and tell each other whenever someone was going to go down

[@jerknee]

@@thornykettle112 its literally getting a free health state, speed boost and all, so yea. its massive, specially with so many pallets nearby its stupid easy to dead hard at a pallet, get distance than reach another pallet without wasting one.

[@s-k-i-t-e4388]

@@thornykettle112 survivor main spotted

[@thornykettle112]

@@jerknee It's not free though. More often than not, survivors fumble the Dead Hard and go down. But please, tell me more about how you always get DH'd on, completely forgetting the times you had a good chuckle over survivors failing. And going from one pallet to another is just called looping in 2023, where killers get bloodlust fast enough that it doesn't matter how many pallets are on a map, survivors are going to go down eventually. Dead Hard just gives survivors a chance when some thoughtless teammate dropped all of them early on in the match.

[@xlucifer6956]

@@thornykettle112 you mean running through a pallet and a killer swings thinking he has the down but no he gets pallet stunned or eats the DH meaning the survivor makes free distance for pressing a button, basically a lose lose whatever the killer does

[@vinnie4609]

well, time to run pain res, deadlock and fearmonger.

[@albertwesker404]

They are going for those perks next and you know it

[@kingmanny6619]

As a survivor main who plays killer a lot this kinda sucks

[@cheezelog3889]

Made me smile to see AVGN. Did not expect that. lol

[@vbbrothers]

Insert death wistsle here

[@deresfer1525]

God, imagine those pure souls who are gonna try to get Nemesis adept after this...

[@LiquidOcelot1459]

I'm still salty about the Thanatophobia nerf a few patches back. This is just salt in the wound.

[@Josh651Pro]

"Any perk that affects a survivor's chances of winning will always be complaint nonstop until the developers nerf it to nonexistent..." something that us killer mains will always have to deal with unfortunately

[@GrimGatsby]

Maybe instead of nerfing perks that see too much use, they could buff perks that see barely any use. That's my hot take.

[@kumatetsu915]

They have done that before examples vigil,any means the killer version of windows Hex:blood favor hex:Retribution,Mind breaker claustrophobia,Fixated, diversion and the infamous boil over and DMS etc etc but people still opted for DS DH IW UB BT or pop ruin undying Pain Res Tinker because these were still the most powerful perks which is why they did the meta shake up

[@transcendtient]

That's called power creep and it's worse. Might as well ask for base kit perks.

[@kumatetsu915]

@@transcendtient Eruption was a problem it punished soloq very heavily I will admit I hated the perk but I don’t think they should have nuked it the just needed to adjust the numbers IMO

[@transcendtient]

@@kumatetsu915 Incapacitated shouldn't be in the game at all.

[@fredward_3713]

But that is exactly what they did with Eruption in the first place, tons of perks got nerfed and this one got buffed and became too broken

[@Icole-cv4px]

Also BHVR when annoying survivor perks: *silence* *Dead Hard rework after 6 years* *silence*

[@trathanstargazer6421]

As I never ran it, I was not affected. Rip to those who used it.

[@Apathy293]

So glad I stopped playing DBD last month. This update would have given me a fucking stroke. It's not enough to take the Incapacitated away from Eruption, they slashed the damage to gen progress as well. Plus the new survivor perks punish killers for not tunneling. Goddamn.

[@nessybite]

Lucky bastard got out the fog

[@albertwesker404]

You made the right choice to leave this sinking ship

[@nessybite]

@@albertwesker404 I dont think the game is dying... the players are inside though

[@albertwesker404]

@@nessybite Its getting boring

[@nessybite]

@@albertwesker404 eh I enjoy it still use perks you wouldn't usually Id say

[@black-jack-2rich]

I think nefering eruption is making dbd so survivor sided is just pains me to play killer now

[@kakugowaii5854]

We have been in the most Killer sided meta this game has ever seen in it's entire life span, if you're losing matches and saying that Survivors are stronger, you are bad at the game

[@KinoKyojin]

@@kakugowaii5854 thats just plain wrong

[@Trakengs]

@@kakugowaii5854 state your source pls, I'm very curious to know.

[@xedusk]

@@kakugowaii5854 I mean, just because this is the best killer side has ever been, that doesn’t mean it’s good. Just because you didn’t burn the dish, that doesn’t automatically mean that it tastes good.

[@bagel_doug5093]

Play both sides, it's not fun to play any side hahahhahahahahhaa

[@gouda2353]

It’s so wild seeing this video and in the time since I have seen like a 0% drop in Eruption users

[@StandBySky]

Gut every killer perk while buffing every survivor perk

[@Hyphen372]

This is facts, but the clown survivor mains think every killer is op and the game is killer sided

[@warfamegaming]

As a killer main I am now depressed and my day is ruined

[@smokinxeno]

well now you have a chance to get good at the game, silver linings.

[@nessybite]

@@smokinxeno ? what

[@deathknight1239]

@@smokinxeno cringe

[@moonshiners-cv6kd]

i mean silver lining more room for perke like noed or thanta or some other slowdown

[@warfamegaming]

@@nessybite Classic survivor main I'm guessing is what he is

[@nnamggiFellauQrD]

they nerf every killer perk into the ground, ruin, Pop, Eruption but dead hard is still meta and arguably better than before

[@Pipopowitz]

And then they wonder why killers quit the game.

[@transcendtient]

LOL what is the middle ground? 10 seconds incapacitated? 20? Incapacitated is literally the worst status effect in the game.

[@the_odd_raccjr895]

@@transcendtientsir calm down you sound like a entitled survivor by copying and pasting your response to everyone

[@transcendtient]

@@the_odd_raccjr895 Same response is all I need. No entitlement.

[@BStar870]

Solo Que won't even be grateful, that's the sad part. They'll still complain about the tunneling and camping issue. Now games will fly by even faster, Killers will abuse three gen setups more; as the pendulum swings. BHVR tries to appease one side by slapping the other in the face.

[@spooky4460]

Eruption definetly needed a nerf (as the hold 3 gen/40 minutes match meta is boring for almost everyone) however it definetly got over nerfed, just like other changes to perks such as pop, ruin, bbq, WGLF, MOM (only for a breif period), and so on and so on

[@moonshiners-cv6kd]

i get weakening perks but it shouldn't just be the fucking murder of a perk

[@spooky4460]

@@moonshiners-cv6kd yeah

[@irishh8942]

I think so too, most of the killers in my Asian server abuse it. 90% of the matches the killers used Eruption, Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance and Call of Brine, it's really boring when play DBD, and Eruption is very strong at the end when only have 3 generators with 2-3 survivors left. The killer simply kicked the generators and knocks out a survivor as soon as possible, the remaining survivors will scream and can't do anything next. On my server most killers will tunnelling the first hanged survivor, so the case is still full of 4 people with 3 generators left is really rarely happens. The Killers usually win this way

[@adabong]

i know it’s not healthy to demolish a perk but this one was satisfying to watch burn

[@exeomnia]

It actually needed a nerf, but now it's like they just deleted it

[@carlosdavid8279]

No, it don't needed a nerf.

[@exeomnia]

@@carlosdavid8279 25s doing absolutely nothing :/ if it was me on balancing, i would make that you cant repair the gen but still heal, bless or use items...

[@carlosdavid8279]

@@exeomnia Bro, waiting 10 seconds for a deadhard whether they have it or not is much worse because the killer doesn't have time like the survivors, and worse with those generator boosting perks, and worse against premades it's useless.

[@alexbarallat5324]

Fuck survivors now im going to use no may out + noed

[@moonshiners-cv6kd]

not good enough basement bubba is the way or thanta legion or plauge

[@albertwesker404]

Don't forget insidious

[@JooJoo-uz2wc]

*Me Running Ruin still*

[@CreditR01]

Ruin is fine at low to mid-MMR with some other good stuff. If you're putting decent pressure on a team, by the time you kill someone, you should have a proper snowball going anyway by the time it poofs out.

[@atmosdwagon4656]

@@CreditR01 Naw, Ruin isn't even usable at mid-MMR because Boon: Circle of Infinte-Medkits basically encourages gopher-brains to home in on all totems ASAP. Only maps that aren't completely survivor-sided (of which there are like, 3 now) that have decent totem hiding-spots will work at the mid-card, and even those are on borrowed time. Totem builds are trash-tier outside of maybe two very specific exceptions. (Skillcheck Forever-Doc, and MAYBE Hexmaster Blight)

[@PrestoUrDead_YT]

bhvr - "how do we balance erupton?" "just nerf it. plain and simple" .....

[@Hotsauce_58]

Killers can’t have anything good these days

[@васяпупкин-х2з7о]

waiting for not being able to kill survivors

[@Hyphen372]

"We fixed a 7 year bug where survivor could get injured, downed, hooked, moried, or sacrificed. Sorry for the inconvenience and enter the code "BHVRISTHEBESTCOMPANYEVER" for 1bp!"

[@thatfishguy4991]

Nerfing eruption was a good idea but they killed it. Imo they could’ve just made the incapacitated 16 seconds and had it only activate on basic attacks. Then there’s good counterplay. Survivors can enter a locker and get grabbed out of it so it doesn’t activate. Or if a strong killer like Huntress, nurse, etc is running it they won’t get much value so it only benefits killers who absolutely need it.

[@gdjolly4115]

next is call of brine, then what?

[@Apathy293]

Then they remove the ability to kick gens.

[@sub-zero5283]

@@Apathy293 then hooks

[@GrimGatsby]

Then killers wont be able to press W.

[@gdjolly4115]

@@GrimGatsby just being able to move around by rotating the camera and pressing A and D

[@GCoffee2006]

@@GrimGatsby any thoughts about Life As A Skull Merchant main

[@xxtmntxxrae4544]

The same survivors that say “just wait out Dead Hard” are the equivalent of killers who say “just wait out Eruption”. Eruption had counters though, you could run any aura perk to see if a teammate was going to go down (Bond, Empathy, Kindred etc.)

[@fredward_3713]

Thing is, waiting out dead hard takes like 5 seconds, which is still a lot if you do it for every survivor, with eruption we talk about minutes for each survivor and it synergizes extremely well with other perks, so that is a completely different story

[@christianprice1563]

To be honest I never really used it, I’ve always seemed to get by with other perks and make red one regularly. Now the day they fuck yo relentless and iron grip is the day I get scared.

[@thelastpayphone8463]

eventually we will reach a time where Oppression is nerfed to have an even LONGER cooldown because its the most run regression perk by statistic. But it is only because it actually does SOMETHING.

[@bigbizon6416]

they could reduce the incapacitaded status to like 10 seconds or not let it spread to more than 1 or 2 gens. but nope lets kill it right away. they could buff another killer perks instead but nope, this is faster.

[@PepperIsErnie]

Yet no nerf for most used survivor perks? Odd

[@RobbohRobb]

"the game is killer side"

[@Hyphen372]

"Every killer perk is op and survivors only have trash perks"

[@fredward_3713]

I mean, official statistics still prove it, but the perk really got butchered to death

[@thejunkfoodjunky7533]

Eruption should have applied a incap effect for 10-15 seconds but keep current the loss of 10% current progress

[@moonshiners-cv6kd]

that was the original effect

[@thejunkfoodjunky7533]

@@moonshiners-cv6kd my bad i ment to say it like keep it as 10% loss progress but reduce incap effect to 10-15 seconds

[@blinkaHyTbIu]

the next behaviour will be given weapons to the survivors)))

[@Kenny_ATMOZ]

Hmm almost like being forced to do nothing for half a minute was never a good gameplay mechanic in the first place

[@transcendtient]

Thank you killer mains for filling my cup with your tears. I am sated.

[@invadernik]

soyvivors be like- good now nerf call of brine. and jolt. and overcharge. and oppression. actually just get rid of all gen regression/blocking perks.

[@vincentwygers220]

Can they just stop destroying perks like omg, just make it a little weaker not fucking put it into the damn ground.

[@stolen_light3751]

While I completely agree the nerf was way too hard, I'm not gonna mourn Eruption at all

[@albertwesker404]

They either nerf the perk to the ground or make it a broken perk there is no grey area with bhvr

[@JustAMountain]

I'm a survivor main, and I think eruption doesn't deserve the nerf. I think the reason is because it started to get used more and more after it got buffed. Personally, I think it's just ridiculous that they're nerfing strong perks because they're strong and everyones gonna use them. You're going to choose DH over This Is Not Happening. You're going to choose STBFL over Deerstalker. You're going to choose the strong perks over the weak ones because they're powerful and useful. Nerfing strong perks doesn't help you'll be pissing off more people than those who'll congratulate you. If they just gave buffs to every perk no one is using, then everyone can start using them, and maybe they'll get comfortable with them and will be encouraged to use them more and more. To every killer main here, I'm sorry for your loss

[@albertwesker404]

Fax and thank you

[@Cira512]

I'm fine with BHVR getting rid of the unfun incapacitation part of eruption just wish that they didn't nerf the already abysmal gen regression that's on top of it. Like making the perk more fun to play against makes sense but making it only useful for nurse or blight just made this shit worse than pop.

[@deadpoolwrestler7179]

I might as well play killer with no perks then.

[@moonshiners-cv6kd]

do you only have eruption?

[@eliasar5051]

Just use Overcharge with Jolt (universal combo) or Overcharging with Brine if you want to be extra nasty and enjoy it ntil both of those perks get gutted and burried under the ground too.

[@patchesgaming9139]

I never thought eruption was that crazy of a perk tbh, It seems that whenever a portion of the community cries about something the devs have a kneejerk reaction and make it basically unusable like thanatophobia.. lame

[@smexyarkeyan3858]

where is the original video of spooky loops

[@Kaitri]

i think the main problem was just HOW FUCKING BORING it is when you cant do anything for 25 seconds. like damn... eruption could have just been like a scourge hook pain ress, just a big explosion on the gen

[@NameIsDoc]

Survivors can do a gen in 25 seconds with the right build. That slowdown was nessisary.

[@CreditR01]

@@NameIsDoc Survivor mechanics need to be nerfed too. But Eruption as it was needed to go. It made solo queue a living nightmare.

[@inter9104]

Eruption could have blown generators and then blocked ones that were being repaired, forcing Survivors to move on to find another one. It would have been massively better than being unable to play the game for half a damn minute.

[@NameIsDoc]

@@CreditR01 I mostly solo and had little issue with it because I used empathy and windows. That's all it took to counter it. Windows is already an amazing perk that can tell you a shit ton of information at all times throughout the entire map. empathy is a great perk shows you injured survivors. With both before the uber information on ui perk I could see every single time when players were running into bad situations and get off the Gen or repress it if I so inclined or had the perk. This with stake out and hyperfocus means I cranked out 45 second gens while having full knowledge of my teammates. Only exposed killers were a problem and they are generally weak ass killers anyway. Literally If you played off meta you'd find you had the counter all along. Also we balance around for solo q morons for survivors but balance around top tear killers for killers. That isn't fair.

[@Danu689]

A perk that was shit versus people using discord... i honestly cant believe it was nerfed.

[@TheSpartan451]

Thank God, honestly.

[@foofoo1364]

Hello everyone i bought nemesis for eruption before 3 weeks and that happened to me. F this game it was always survivor sided. We don't even have 1 OP perk after eruption

[@mr.bomber4381]

Then, what is the point of using something good if they are gonna cry anyway till is broken and bad?

[@WeskintimeASVAL679-89]

Tru3 can't go 4 seconds without making it Us Vs Them, can he? What a manchild.

[@Josh651Pro]

I wonder who were the ones crying in the mid chapter 6.1.0 when it wasn't even a big deal

[@WeskintimeASVAL679-89]

@@Josh651Pro everyone who takes this game too seriously, regardless of side; theres always complainers

[@bloodkl622]

I agree this is bullshit

[@thedutywarlord264]

Bhvr and survivors main since 2016: 👨‍👩‍👦🤓🤡

[@yandaihh]

can't have shit in detroit

[@liamwelch6485]

So is incapacitated just gone from the game now eruption was the only thing I think that does that

[@shenelljohnson74]

As decent survivor main Idc 😑🤦‍♂️ I just hate the sweaty killers that uses it, but I'm find with it tbh 🤷‍♂️ I grow numb it now

[@purple_1884]

> Is used in 8 out of 10 games > Is slightly useful How to tell that you are a killer main without telling that you are a killer main

[@jerknee]

guess we gotta gut dead hard then. too overused

[@Arianime]

People used that perk??? 😦

[@albertwesker404]

I did🥲

[@yes3802]

I mean 12 seconds of aura reading isn't bad right?.......Right?

[@rats703]

Wait, why did everyone use eruption alot

[@moonshiners-cv6kd]

kicked survivors off gen for long time

[@rats703]

@moonshiners1888 2 oh, but if the dbd Comunity knows that it's meta, why use it a lot? Like, don't say it's amazing. Just don't say anything about it. Maybe I'll get nerfed like later

[@fredward_3713]

@@rats703 One problem were the videos that showed 60 minute matches, basically setting up a 3 gen right at the start and then defending the gens with it was extremely easy

[@moonshiners-cv6kd]

@@rats703 first off you hit the wrong person second people in this game find enjoyment in victory so will use what makes the most dubs.

[@rats703]

@moonshiners1888 2 yeah, but why not use the perks that people find fun

[@RASHIDOOOOO]

BHVR taking something that is justifiably complained about and then removing an annoying element of it but also ruining it completely seems to be a running theme. Hillbilly instasaw is too strong? Eh, remove it and then also giganerf him with overheat. Eruption's incapacitation? Eh, remove it, but also make it so nobody will run it on top of that.

[@S4m4_]

Just changed the game looks at least make survivors running away from cute teddy bears who can't catch up because every nerf bhvr makes, make killers being a joke more than usual no scares potential no pressure if you play low tiers killers that's how it is... Thanks we'll get more nurse blight games until they nerf them more..

[@Cyb3rSpctr]

Such a shame that genrushers and eruption abusers forced the perk to be buried into the ground

[@Impalingthorn]

Behavior's entire balance strategy, not just for singular perks but the ENTIRETY of them is awful. There are way too many Perks that do basically the same thing in basically the same way that give minor bonuses that are meant to stack up which creates an entire awful pipeline of hard to balance situations. They should honestly just simplify and make every Perk strong, but limit you to ONE Passive and ONE Active Perk; basically you can take a Perk that allows you to Heal... Or you can take Dead Hard. It'e one or the other, you can't just stack offensive Active Perk on top ot offensive Active Perk, or the same ordeal but with Passives. You have to pick and choose. This would not only help with balance but would allow Behavior to just make STRONG Perks with niche but impactful uses. Like yeah, Dead Hard can be a life saver in the right hands, but using it means giving up, say, an instant Revive Perk or being able to toss pallets back up or a Spring Burst. And once again, this goes even harder for Killer Perks.; You could basically give them secondary abilities to cover their weak spots or bolster their strengths. Like imagine being able to go into a Rage Mode with any Killer where their miss animations, Pallet Stun and all of that are dramatically reduced and you force Survivors into a position where they have to play REALLY well or get bent... But this would also mean not taking some matter of Instant Down Perk. I could go on, but most of these issues boil down to how Behavior DELIBERATELY keeps a good 90% of the Perks overbearingly weak and inaffectual just to make that last 10% too good on their own or absolutely busted with mixed with any one or more of the player's other 3 Perks. Sometimes less is more.

[@Amilia4Anime]

Nah dont worry eruptions still good just depends if its a gen rush squad or if you know... your playing the new killer Kris Jenner

[@jamesvega6813]

they couldnt just reduce the amount of time being incapacitated?? like really??? why completely gut it?

[@albertwesker404]

Because BHVR sucks at nerfing and buffing perks

[@jamesvega6813]

@@albertwesker404 ...... ur really not wrong

[@Gravelordnito934]

But gen rush perks are fine

[@slendermansmoom]

why was eruption good? i haven't played since halloween

[@CreditR01]

Major game-stalling coupled with other busted gen regression perks like Call of Brine.

[@inter9104]

When you kick a generator, it becomes marked by Eruption. Then when you down a Survivor, the generator would explode and lose a chunk of progress and begin regressing. Also, any Survivors who were actively working on an exploded generator would be unable to do most M1 actions (repairing, healing, totems, etc) for 25 seconds. Eruption could be applied to all generators at once. It was too powerful in the way that you can't 'dodge' Eruption happening like you can dodge Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance + Dead Man's Switch, where in that example you watch for a Survivor aura going on the hook and let go, let the generator explode, and get back on it so it doesn't get Entity blocked. Eruption couldn't be 'dodged' because you can never exactly tell when a Survivor is going to go down, and ANY down would cause Eruption to blow the generators up and cause affected Survivors to be basically unable to play the game for half a minute. Sure it was powerful. They could have just removed Incapacitated and made it block generators that were being repaired or something. Instead they made it so it loses *current* progress, like a percentage of how much the generator has been repaired rather than a percentage of its total time needed to be repaired, like Pop Goes The Weasel used to and now does, and reveals Survivor auras which is basically useless even if you intend to slug. It doesn't slow the game down for Killers anymore.

[@warfamegaming]

@@CreditR01 which was needed considering how fast gens get done

[@fredward_3713]

Basically, you were able to stall survivors for several minutes, because they were not able to do anything (healing, repairing, booning etc.) while the gens were regressing in the meantime and it had synergie with other gen kick perks, so you had matches that took 60 minutes, because you were not able to break through it, it was extremely boring to go against, because sometimes you were just able to stand around doing nothing

[@miketzartzalis906]

guys stop using deadlock and call of brine for a month maybe they will not get nerfed next patch🤣

[@albertwesker404]

Are you going to stop using dh no? still we endure.

[@miketzartzalis906]

@@albertwesker404 im saying that as killer main so we might not get another nerf

[@albertwesker404]

@@miketzartzalis906 Oh sorry my bad now I get what you mean and I agree

[@miketzartzalis906]

@@albertwesker404 ahahahaha its the sad reality the survivors get perks and toolboxes to do fast gens and our only counterplay perks keep getting nerfed the only killer perk that helps our objective for faster kills its monstrous shrine and that perk is mostly shit😮‍💨

[@albertwesker404]

@@miketzartzalis906 fax BHVR is a bunch of survivor mains

[@gewaldroge9949]

As dead as Eruption is now, I'm glad it's not that oppresive anymore. Plus I always felt like the Gen-Kick-Meta is boring

[@NameIsDoc]

You know what also is boring only getting a single chase in before 3 gens pop. Or having to wait 15 seconds for a derp hard to derp so you can down them. Or waiting 45 seconds for desisive strike to fade after you downed and hooked everyone else. It stinks that OTR is multiplictive and appies after Strider making it so they have no sound profile. Survivor rush meta and second chance meta results in boring additudes and There were two counters to Eruption that no survivor ever used because heaven forbid you use something off meta and adapt to the killers.

[@gewaldroge9949]

@@NameIsDoc Hey, I get that, I'm a Killer main lol. I just hate kicking gens since I wanna get into chases quicker. BHVR will probably look into the meta next Mid-Chapter and change a bunch of things

[@inter9104]

@@NameIsDoc Honest question, what were the 'counters' to Eruption?

[@Kasparth]

@@inter9104 i assume he means blast mine and repressed alliance

[@NameIsDoc]

@@inter9104 windows and empathy or bond was great. See a wounded teammate in a bad loop let go or use repressed. The Felix perk that suppresses fails (can't remember the name) also worked when two people were on the same Gen which I thought was a bug and vigil for some reason did effect incompasitated time despite not being listed but I think that had to do with the general bugs of the last patch where mangled was effecting mend and snap out of it and such. Ether case it was a weapon like survivors abusing the deadhard while deepwound glitch last patch

[@ghostyboy4239]

Finally!!! Wooooooooooooo😌😌😁👀

[@BigDoof2]

I don't see what the big deal is, now they get to see survivor's aura which is OP! - Survivor main

[@enzodluk9715]

lol

[@nonvous6633]

lol fair change

[@Frredster]

"We had to move to this stuff" There's a difference between gen defense and gens being slowed down to a fucking slog, Tru.

[@BreadAccountant]

Im glad, this perk made the most boring players and play styles good

[@WeaselArlington]

Well if survivors can have eruptions nerfed. Let's nerf survivor perks so they can feel the pain like us

[@TrueCarthaginian]

1:00 LMAO. What a drama queen. Spookyloopz is such a ridiculous person.

[@staticstormbird5439]

Crazy thing is......I don't even use it so I don't care lol.

[@tedobg4778]

BRO I WANT EVERYONE TO STFU. THIS IS NOT THE END OF KILLER. JUST TRY AND GET BETTER AT CHASES AND STOP COMPLAINING

[@sergeychistov8162]

Why everyone is so upset by this nerf? I personally like these changes. The Eruption is now a kick version of the old Pain Resonance. Isn't that a thing everyone wanted?

[@albertwesker404]

No I liked the incapacitated statues effect they could have brought it to 15 seconds but they completely removed that.

[@CreditR01]

Glad it got buried to be honest. It was a bullshit carry perk. Don't get me wrong, Survivor mechanics need some kind of nerf too, but Eruption was total ass. Call of Brine on its own is cracked. Stack with Nowhere to Hide and some other solid stuff and you're good. People who ran Eruption with Overcharge and COB were shit Killers to begin with.

[@MrDementedninja]

And survivors who ran toolboxes, medkits and dead hard are shit survivors by that logic.