RIVALS 2 IS EVERYTHING WE'VE WANTED

[@hungrybox]

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[@Xalthir]

If Rivals of Aether 2 takes off it's because this game is polished, fun to play, has functional online, and has 'indie collab' potential like the previous entry. There is no such thing as a Smash Killer, but perhaps we finally found a Smash 'Rival'.

[@philmur18]

I haven't even touched this game yet, but I can tell just by watching that it is more fun than any smash game other than melee. The speed and movement is similar to melee, but there isn't quite as much mechanical depth. Which for newer players or smash players that didn't play melee is probably good. You can be fast and do some cool stuff without having to devote a ton of time

[@toolazytobeoriginal4587]

[Game] Killer and [Game] Clone are such dumb things to label anything tbh

[@philmur18]

@@toolazytobeoriginal4587 the clone comment makes sense. They even have the stock and percentage system. Almost a straight copy. Not that it's a bad thing. With Nintendo mostly catering to casuals with the newer versions of smash, it's good to have more options

[@toolazytobeoriginal4587]

@@philmur18 but that's not really what a clone is. A clone copies every aspect of a property without adding anything and just sells it. The percentage system is just a piece of the game. It and other things that you see in a ton of other "smash clones" are things that while they may have started in one game series, became a genre staple. Plus, even smash isn't a wholely original game. Shields? Grabs? Jump lag? Hitstun? Games are a process of taking things from others and putting your own spin on them, whether that be through changing how they work, using them in places where they haven't been used before, or combining them with other mechanics. Plus, a ton of the people who use either term use it as a way to avoid saying anything of substance about it.

[@philmur18]

@toolazytobeoriginal4587 Normally that would make sense, but nobody who uses the term "clone" in gaming usually means an exact copy. Terms kinda take on their own meanings in different communities. I guess if you are a stickler for words only being used with their exact, original meaning I could see that bothering you though. A bunch of words have had their meanings tweaked throughout the years though. Just look at olde English compared to present day English.

[@FieryAnubis]

I love RoA2. I hope the game gets at least 5 years of support. Round the roster to 30. Make a lot of fun side modes. Expand the story. There's so much potential. Like, imagine if all potentially 30 characters are super unique and fun and like, it's unbelievable. Game's already very addicting (in all the right ways), and the bigger it gets, the more it'll pull me and other people in. Love seeing an original platform fighter that doesn't try to rely on being yet another crossover to succeed. I just love this franchise so much. It's awesome seeing a lot of people loving it too.

[@joesmother23]

The roster will hopefully become bigger when they add workshop

[@AJinxxedFella]

@@joesmother23 you shouldn't have said the W-word, not to this guy.

[@darklurkerirl6101]

Only 5 ?!?!!!

[@arkenn3497]

If they re-add Ori, I'm buying this game

[@joesmother23]

@@AJinxxedFella what’s going to happen?

[@ice5615]

WE LOVE RIVALS 2 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@darklurkerirl6101]

I love you Hungrybox. Thanks for all the support you give to our tiny community

[@matthewosterman9030]

They really need to launch on consoles man. This game is so crispy it really has killed smash for me atm

[@swaggyalexx]

same bro after watching rivals coinbox I cant even go back and watch smash the same its just that good. im a console player as well so I would love to be able to support it

[@pj_A]

I believe in one of their roadmap videos they said console port is around a year out

[@xtraspecialj]

Yes, they're going to iterate on it on PC until they feel like it's ready, then expand to console.

[@jamiecal11]

Wouldn't it have been better to just wait and fully release it? These incremental additions destroy hype. Better to take longer and present a complete package - as NASB.

[@xtraspecialj]

@jamiecal11 Yeah, as much as I'd like to play this with my son on our living room TV downstairs using our Switch or PS5, I'd like the game to do well. Launching a slick and fully developed game on the consoles is the most important. We'll live with playing it on our own respective computers over Discord for now.

[@coinflip100]

Everybody say THANK YOU DAN

[@xSABRET00TH]

he’s locked in now. can’t wait to see where this goes. im already trying to imagine rivals 3. i wish him NOTHING but success. giving us the game we all wanted but nintendo said NO!

[@betanick14]

Ty Dan 🙏

[@rage_tv4493]

GOTY

[@xSABRET00TH]

@@rage_tv4493 he gotta do something about crouch canceling tho. i don’t like getting a hit and they immediately CC and now im getting hit for hitting them?

[@mikelpelaez]

I love the original rivals, it's my most played game in steam. I should buy this one.

[@affluenzashot]

You won't regret it. Gameplay feels buttery smooth, character buffs feel great, graphics look cleaner that I could've imagined, and rollback netcode feels smooth as always, all $20 with free DLC along the way.

[@meep7605]

It really depends if you like what they have added, it is very much a change in the gameplay style, I would say its not so much a sequel as a step in a different direction. Nevertheless, the game is very good, I wouldn't have expected anything less from the Rivals team.

[@jonasz294]

online is way better in this one but honestly i love the og way more than this, the addition of shield makes the game feel slow and generic doesn’t feel as much about movement and spacing.

[@Marthyboy88]

As another rivals 1 guy, this game is great. I have a few gripes, but the game is awesome.

[@skillernu4487]

Did you buy it yet? Its 100% worth. Im new to the Rivals stuff but knew about and watched rivals 1 content and im loving rivals 2. Super addicting. Can't wait for more champs to come to the game.

[@MarcelE80]

This game is fun to watch! The movement. The speed. So hype

[@beardalaxy]

I love it when Orcane goes "ding"

[@calebrobinson6406]

this game deserves to be big!

[@PKsLabYT]

literally peak gaming

[@chxrish72]

have i not been keeping up with hbox lately? i’ve never noticed the flower boy poster. never knew he was a tyler fan.

[@SkyTheStarhero]

12:50 Kragg is an okay character

[@mezerian]

liking, commenting, subscribing, etc. Y'know, engagement metrics. Gimme more rivals 2.

[@paradigm_sh1ft]

That combo to end grand finals! GOD DAMN!

[@ANGRYYYYYYYYY]

5:50 i love that top 3 rivals 1 player is playing against the top 1 rivals 2 player, the story of generations

[@karlhnedkovsky5214]

12:46 that was like a beautiful dance! 30:38 And that, was the scariest Hbox face I've ever seen!

[@Maxel53]

This game is the most fun I've had with a platform fighter in a whiiile. Love the fact that online feels nice to play compared to nintendo :)

[@KP_Uravity]

really happy to see the love for rivals 2, but i wish this same love had been given to rivals 1. it had most of the same tech and was just as hype. heres hoping rivals 2 keeps its foothold this time. its well balanced, fast paced, and polished. something mvs and nsb cant say

[@toolazytobeoriginal4587]

I think the artstyle probably helped rivals 2 alot. Rivals 1s pixel art is good, but pixel art as a whole tends to be treated as "indie" and thereby making the game easier to write off. Plus rivals 2 just released with quite good timing.

[@billable1861]

Right now I still prefer 1 just for the amount of characters and it feels more polished. Hope this gets on par with it soon.

[@ravensoott]

glad we’re starting to see more of forsburn, people were not giving him the respect he deserves in the early tier lists

[@tashi321]

8:21 RANNO CAN SHINO STALL????? HUGE

[@broor]

Only 3 times, but thats sick

[@jon630]

what does Naruto bug boy have to do with ledge invulnerability resets? Honest question

[@tashi321]

@@jon630 nah there was a japanese melee player named shino who came up with the ledge stall for sheik so they called it the shino stall

[@simonanderson4858]

Cake Rivals 2 Forsburn feels like Leo returning to Joker post Covid.

[@BlackMMP.]

banger video as always. really like how rivals is so far!

[@GREG_WHEREISTHEMAYO]

I’ve been having sooo much fun with this game, I need to play it more

[@GetOffMyLog]

I'm 14 hours in and having a blast!

[@LyndanTylor]

MAN Rivals of Aether is just so interesting

[@middyjohn]

22:11 schmove like lightning

[@neptuneart551]

I love this game- Thank you Dan and everybody at Aether studio!

[@Hope4NewDay1]

Lets hope Rivals 2 has a long shelf life and can escape the notorious *Platform Fighter Lifecycle* > New Platform Fighter releases > Community farms content on it for 2 - 4 months ("This is the Smash Bros. Killer", "Is this the Smash Bros. Killer?", "Is this better than Melee?") > Game slowly bleeds players > Game gets 2 good Major Tournament appearances > *DLC Releases* resurgence of players and content > Players go back to their respective games > The YT videos: "Why Rivals 2 failed.", "What Went wrong with Rivals 2", "Why Rivals 2 is declining." are uploaded

[@lll1Neva1lll]

I have barely played melee since I purchased ROA2. Rivals 2 is amazing.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

I really love Rivals 2. Honestly the second best platform fighter behind melee. It destroys ultimate in too many categories. The only thing ultimate has over rivals is roster size. Melee will forever be king but I am super happy to have an actually good alternative to melee. Plus if you want to play melee but the tech scares you, start with rivals 2. It wont be exact but it will help with the fundamentals.

[@tashi321]

game wise true, but ult does have the bigger community and ease of using consoles for IRL tournies. i could run rivals 2 brackets right now at my local if it was on Switch but im gonna be building a few small PCs to run SteamOS to have rivals locals :/ i really do love everything else about this game more than smash ult completely though

[@Jollofmuncher2000]

@@tashi321 pretty much any pc with at least 16 gb of ram can run this game. but do invest in a pc if you want to play this game becomes console release is coming in a year or 2 so not really that soon

[@Kwacker_]

@@Jollofmuncher2000 It's even running well on my 8gb ram PC - they've killed it with the optimisation :)

[@SALTYTOAD00]

I'd also argue Ultimate beats this game in single-player content, but I know more will be added later on.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

@@SALTYTOAD00 Oh true. I wasn't really thinking about that aspect of the game.

[@mikael100100]

things i get from this, frog is greninja level stuff, crag is your good old donkey kong ( YEET ) , and that tournaments are gonna be some SICK STUFF

[@pegeta]

I love how this game is just like smash but at the same time it isn't and that is a very good thing.

[@MonoFlax]

Luck and Leo are my faves to watch in Rivals 2. Marss ranno is also really good tho

[@DylanMatthewTurner]

The Project Plus killer

[@GoozyGang]

When can we see Hbox play? 🙏🏽

[@BurnettGaming]

Never played RoA1 but good god is RoA2 so much fun. I've been having a blast watching and playing.

[@Plastic_Kong]

This the one man 🙏🏼

[@Fatalfury1391]

Can't wait for the console release

[@hitmax2472]

The zeebee vs stang0 was MADNESS

[@unclespamuel]

YOOOO THAT KRAG FLEET SET WAS NUTS

[@MrGameguyC]

All this goodwill towards Rivals 2 makes me optimistic for the future of Platform Fighters.

[@saymehname]

i gave watching this video a try and wow, I like it a lot. I should get it on steam and join in

[@lordtraxroy]

Stop calling rivals as a smash killer and a rival instead treat rivals of aether as a good game as a whole for both casuals and compatitive but casual comes first always

[@jakck1769]

Throwing some Rivals support into the algorithm. THIS GAME IS PEAK

[@lysanderxx1664]

Marlon's profile pic shows he is a man of good taste.

[@broor]

Where is the vod?

[@iliya1933]

Are you going to keep doing Coinboxes with Rivals 2? I don't want this game to get ignored by content creators who have the means like NASB2 did. We got our two Slimeboxes, but then it was just kind of gone after that. And Rivals 2 seems like a much more consistent game that it's worth keeping around in the long run, imo.

[@SkeebusMcDreeber-de9mq]

hbox play the game challenge

[@M1ntyFr3sh103]

RIVALS 2 GAMING LETS GOO

[@YourCasualPunk]

I really was hoping for cake to get the dub but Marlon wrastor and oracane is just a different breed

[@simonanderson4858]

Cake Forsburn vs Marlon Wrastor - THIS is what I've wanted 🙌

[@EliTheGleason]

It's legit so much fun, nothings felt this good since ult

[@philmur18]

This game is good for people who found ult disappointing too. It has the speed and some of the mechanics of melee that smash has strayed away from with brawl and onwards. This game doesn't require as much tech skill to be good like melee does though. It is like a good middle ground

[@FirstLastname604]

It’s gonna be over when they release mollo like imagine if they implement z dropping and glide tossing with his bombs

[@isaiahsedlacek7854]

Hey Hbox can you cover the newest update that prevents players using 3rd party wired GameCube adapters on their switch.

[@patrickchung7850]

here to boost the Algo! loving rivals 2.

[@s1nnergy]

YO i dreamt time-traveled two years into the past and met hbox on an In The Groove machine at an old mall arcade last night, gave him a fist bump. WEIRD BUT SICK LET’S GO!

[@bstnicky]

beauty at its finest

[@readyplayerthree3]

Zeebee keeping the games VERY entertaining, doesn't matter if it's Rivals 1 or 2!

[@Velereonics]

Kragg plays more like Marth than Cleiren does lol

[@texasred8424]

you guys remember that period in the 90's when every single fps game that came out was a called a "doom clone"? this is completely unrelated to the video, the topic of the video, and melee players' opinions on the topic of the video btw. just asking, for no particular reason.

[@Bombetina_Again]

Rivals 2? Yeah! I love it!

[@Beastmd]

When can we see your gameplay hbox

[@ethanscurlock515]

Hbox haircut looking kinda fresh tho

[@Xexolth]

Is that E on commentary?? If so awesome. He's my favorite along with TK and HBOX ❤

[@BattleRapperDay]

This game feels amazing

[@werglob3230]

they be commentating like this game hasn't been out for 1 week

[@GravyIzSicK]

im on the fence about buying rivals 2. is it just a nasb reskin or is it fun for more than 2 days

[@freshmintmelee4392]

Well, it depends on what you're looking for. Way less gimmicky, already established franchise, high counterplay to 0 to death combos if you know what you're doing, so no, nothing like NASB. I should preface that the game mechanics might be hard to master but it is very satisfying to play and watch at all levels IMO

[@drdepression4605]

This game is nothing like nasb. Also nasb is a blast. Meter in a plat fighter is peak af

[@dominichara9645]

It’s definitely a lot more thought out than nasb 2 even. A lot of the truly degen stuff you saw in nasb is designed out of the game. But it’s the kind of game where you have to enjoy the combat rather than the characters being presented. They’re all original designs after all

[@YEP2X]

The disrespect of this comment lol

[@tormint5294]

nasb reskin 😨😨😨?

[@edtroeder4549]

More rivals

[@Ganksy_]

I personally hope the entire smash community leaves smash for rivals. The game and the devs and owners deserve it

[@Mr.L9]

Why?

[@Allen-jj7vv]

That would bring lots of toxic people to Rivals.

[@philmur18]

It's already the same player base anyways tbh ​@@Allen-jj7vv

[@philmur18]

I don't think this game could replace melee. It's as fast, but not as mechanically deep. I would happily watch this over any smash game besides melee though

[@Ganksy_]

@philmur18 i agree it's not as mechanically deep, but it's worth mentioning any mechanical depth in smash is accidental, and rivals more than makes up for that with how rich the secondary gameplan style for each character is. Not to mention the smash scene gets less than zero support from Nintendo. This game understands fighting games, it's made for the competitive plat fighter scene, and every new character that comes out will be healthy for the game, and if it isn't it WILL be changed. The roster is balanced enough that it would never need a change ever, but it'll probably get some tweaks anyway because the devs care THAT much. All that and more is way more valuable than simple mechanics

[@_Gemkas_]

rivals 🔥🔥🔥🔥🤙

[@fastee]

krag is so hype

[@unclespamuel]

Omfgggg Orcane match was comppp

[@jordib.p.9407]

The game is nice and solid the online es so good BUT as a mid skill player is so hard find a player that I don't win esaly or get stomped... This game needs more pool of players they need advertise more the game..

[@xaius4348]

I still miss Dolphinbrick...

[@omaraguero]

i love this game

[@orionmarcellus752]

Melee fans are eating (not me)

[@charlesmitchell7864]

This is schmovement. We're here.

[@hahahalala-i1x]

toon's comms are goated shit

[@soramercury7074]

does this game have a character that plays like jigglypuff?

[@lalo2513]

Who is Hungrybox maining in this game?

[@poobs2]

Like to bring back Etalus

[@randomguyh8u]

W content

[@JLawL]

Ban Orcane.

[@iceytaste9155]

I wish cake won against marlon soooo bad when i was watching this live, i also wished zeebee got further

[@c0ld389]

24 seconds ago is hungry

[@iscariot5077]

I cant even watch or play ultinate anymire. Feels so clunky and slow now in comparison.

[@jayylmaossbm]

lets goooooo!

[@jaydenvaporwave1772]

Bro Marlon right tho, I’ve only seen smash players say forsburn is bad, which always made me confused because he actually looks better in this game and Cake was already smoking people with him in the last one

[@jamiecal11]

Had to turn it off when EE started talking

[@broor]

Cake fors

[@pete9700]

idk man edge hogging just feels lame to do and to have done to you

[@tani6245]

We? I just wanted more Rivals 1--but that's an outrageous ask I spose.

[@tyg-zw7nn]

Rivals 2 is the next big hit. Algorithm

[@thegam3rcube686]

The game is awesome but there’s one missing feature, WORKSHOP!!!!

[@MrComet101]

They're gonna work on it I believe!

[@skytroopr6189]

Finally, a true smash clone

[@sonicbhoc]

The reason it's good is that it isn't a clone

[@readyplayerthree3]

It and several others have deserved the genre name "Platform Fighter," definitely not a clone

[@P1X3LAB]

Everything you wanted huh? Let's see how long before you start bashing and trashing like u end up doing with all platform fighters. I've heard this from you before, dirtbox

[@callmechili]

What's different about this one compared to the first game?

[@workingwater0909]

2nd has shields, ledges, grabs, and special variants of getup, ledge, and pummels. It’s also a tad slower but that’s to be expected when shields are introduced.

[@callmechili]

@@workingwater0909 thanks!

[@darklurkerirl6101]

Its modern mellee with updates.

[@matthewosterman9030]

This is way more like melee unlike rivals 1 which felt only a little like melee and more like 64. It pretty much is the speed if not faster/slower depending on what you do than melee

[@shw3ATay]

can someone explain the hype for this game?

[@ohlookameme9917]

It feels great to play

[@drbatt5141]

Smash games have a bunch of bad decisions that competitive players sort of just have to deal with, and for every game since Melee, it's felt very underwhelming to do your best to improve, only to be met with dissappointment that only a narrow range of strategies and playstyles actually work in practice when people are playing to win. Melee exists and it has a ton of good aspects to it, but the game is janky as hell, and it feels very bad to get into if you aren't willing to put many, many hours into it. Add to that how poorly Nintendo treats the idea of playing Smash at a high or even mid level, and you have a recipe for disappointment. There have been other platform fighters that have come out, but they have all been pretty bad in one way or another. NASB and NASB2 were shovelware games that were never going to get enough dev time or care to make them work out in practice, and Multiversus is a joke of a platform fighter made by devs who are constantly adding mechanics from Smash because their design for the game is fundamentally broken. The closest we've had is Rivals of Aether. It's a game that works and is fun. It's managed to keep a competitive scene alive for the past decade, despite its relatively small playerbase, and the devs have a track record that shows a deep understanding of the genre. The only issue was that the style of game that R1's gameplay style didn't really appeal to Smash players very much, since it was hyper-aggressive with few defensive options. Now, with Rivals of Aether 2, they've made a platform fighter in a style that Smash players are genuinely having a ton of fun playing, and it feels very modern, unlike Melee. Basically, people are hoping that this can be their new main platform fighter, instead of Super Smash Bros.

[@writersfantasy5064]

​@@drbatt5141 this comment hits it on the mark ☝

[@writersfantasy5064]

It's competitive Smash Ult and Melee together but without any problems and restrictions you get on playing both of the games. With updates, upcoming variety, workshop, has rollback, competitive support and lastly a new fresh breathe of air in platform fighters.

[@xSABRET00TH]

this is all i wanted from smash ultimate….i wanted melee like mechanics. i just didn’t want all the tech to be hand breaking hard to execute