River Sarasvati: When Geology Weds Itihasa | Nilesh Oak |

River Sarasvati evidence is the common link among Rigveda, Ramayana, Mahabharata, and the vast ancient Indian narratives. Despite this, enormous evidence, a whole lot of biased, confused and agenda driven narratives have questioned the existence and antiquity of Sarasvati.
This talk quadrangulates evidence from hydrology, geology, geophysics, climatology, morpho-dynamics of rivers along with astronomy, oceanography, archaeology and genetics to validate River Sarasvati.
About the Speaker
Nilesh Oak is an author, researcher, speaker, and a faculty at the Instt of Advanced Sciences in Dartmouth, U.S.A. He has written on Bhishma Nirvana, Ram-Ravan yuddh, and the timeline of Mahabharat. His writings on Indian civilizational history are based on scientific research and evidence based reasoning
He has authored many books, including When did the Mahabharata War Happen? The Mystery of Arundhati, where he freshly evaluated astronomy observations of Mahabharata text. His work led to validation of 5561 BCE as the year of Mahabharata War while falsifying more than 120 alternate claims. The book was nominated for the Lakatos award; the award is given annually by London School of Economics for a contribution to the philosophy of science. In this second book- The Historic Rama, he decisively falsifies timelines proposed by Dr. P V Vartak (7300 BCE), Shri Pushkar Bhatnagar (5200 BCE), SRS ( 10000 BCE) and M R Yardi ( 1500 BCE) Nilesh researches in astronomy, archeology, anthropology, quantum mechanics, economics, ancient narratives and philosophy.
Topics Covered
0:00 Introduction
3:45 Geological evidence of Sarasvati
5:22 Around 70,000 BCE, the course of the river shifted towards north & west.
6:18 70,000-50000 BCE - Yamuna separated from Sarasvati
8:20 13000BCE : changes in Shatudri. River started drying up around 4500 BCE
9:46 What is happening with Sarasvati-Fraud, Rhetoric & Truth (Tamas, Rajas, Sattva)
12:10 Evidence from Nadi-suktam
15:00 Some of the western thinkers who constitute the Neo-Colonial/ Anti-India lobby
16:15 …their lackeys in India. e.g. Irfan Habib, Romila Thapar
19:00 The Fraudsters in popular media-RS Sharma, Devdutt Patnaik, Roopa Pai, Tony Joseph
23:16 Tamasic mind
25:40 Rajasic buddhi
31:45 Books for reference
33:50The Pro-Indian but outdated Scholarly Consensus
35:30 The Satvic narrative
37:46 The faulty narrative. Scholarly narrative vs Evidence
43:30 Nadi suktam + Rigveda description of Sarasvati
48:00 Moving of tectonic plates
49:56 1970 map of the River by Prof. Ghosh
53:52 Empirical evidence connected to Scriptural evidence
55:50 Try to match shruti and pratyaksh pramana with Anumana by Samarth Ramdas Swami
57:18 River signatures
1:00:22 13000 BCE : Shatudri separates
1:01:55 Perennial is not the same as Glacier fed?
1:03:37 Sarasvati traced in Rann of Kachh
1:07:30 Nilesh Oak’s prediction
1:09:46 Nilesh’s dating of Ramayan & Mahabharat corroborates his views on Sarasvati
1:1:11 Key takeaways
1:13:25 What role can common people play to spread this narrative?
1:15:21 What exactly is rhetoric?
1:22:00 further corroboration from Skanda Purana
1:24:35 How do we place Sarasvati at Prayagraj? - Ans: Emotional memory
1:28:27 Oak’s Dating of Dashrajna war
1:29:00 Did Mongols evolve from Orangutans?
1:31:05 A multipoint origin of human beings
1:32:27 Faulty dating of separating of Shatudri & Yamuna in scholarly studies
1:44:26 How do we know that there was a civilization on the banks of this river?
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[@shobhabalachander1927]

Even after Saraswati ceased to exist, we were a continuous civilization, who remember the river with great reverence. So that itself is proof of continous hindu civilization and antiquity.

[@stalinsampras]

Sister can Please explain what an Hindu is? You seem to know what it means

[@srikantanm6357]

@@stalinsampras Hindu means according to etymological definition 'Hinan dunodi iti Hindu' means to separate out the unrighteous. It also never told of prosecuting the unrighteous. Just keep them away. Reference :- Nirukta by Yaska

[@stalinsampras]

@Altaf Hussain There are many people in india who talk manusmriti seriously (Tam Brahms) maybe you are too ignorant to know that Lmao Casteism has nothing to with Christianity and has everything to do with brahmanism

[@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388]

@Altaf Hussain you make Allah a liar when you called the Bible names, as he approves Torah and injeel which was between moahmmed hands

[@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388]

@Altaf Hussain they didn’t want to walk the narrow path unto salvation. Hence they chose the broad road that leads to destruction.

[@srividhyavs3685]

The sloka “imame gange Yamune Saraswate….” Is chanted every day when we our water on ourselves while bathing. Great to see the geo significance in your talk. Thanks for your video

[@frankmaninde3989]

This mantra chanted during Ganga pooja or Kalash pooja.

[@rage8673]

@@frankmaninde3989 maybe it's a family tradition of his to speak during bath.

[@Somd55]

Even when we do pooja, the water is purified invoking the waters from different rivers of Bharata.

[@gauharvatsyayan]

Best part, i reside in Ludhiana between shatadri and Saraswati plain and also have gone to TOBA island multiple times, he mentioned.....😄

[@satyam1529]

The impact of TOBA is found in village near Guntur Andhra Pradesh where Archeologist while digging found that 6ft Ash layers and below that there was some evidence of Civilization. When they did analysis of Ash, they found that it belongs to TOBA island. The explosion was a huge that it almost covered areas in heap of ash from TOBA to till India.

[@uniqguy111]

@@satyam1529 it is Kurnool not Guntur. Always talking Abt coastal Andhra. Rayalaseema and Telangana have archaeological evidences of human population from 25k to 65k years. There was nothing in Guntur at that time.

[@maheshsunderaraman7043]

Fantastic Nileshji. Original. Looks like we are indeed the Saraswati Civilization. Powerful insights into Indian ancestry

[@bhaskardutta1654]

This is tremendous work by mr. Nilesh Oak. He is doing a great service for India and its people. He is absolutely right in whatever he is saying or whatever arguement he is putting forward in support of our great ancient Vedic civilization. His works prove that we were much more developed and rich than our contemporary civilizations at that point of time around the world and specially the Europeans and western people. When we were discovering something phenomenal which were critical for humanity at that time the westerners were roaming living in caves and roaming around in without any purpose in life. This is just humongous discovery by Nilesh ji. The Problem is that today's so called developed nations try to reject all these findings.

[@khtsh]

No Doubt in my mind About maa River Saraswati Never had one Now cleared in a fine way

[@saiecorp5646]

It is always pleasure to listen to you, Nilesh ji. Every time you learn something new. Your lectures take us into antiquity of India. Thanx. 🙏🙏

[@NileshOak]

🙏🙏

[@dhanpaulramkissoon9342]

The Saraswati river was mentioned many times in our scriptures. This alone indicates that our Sanatan Dharma is not 5000, 10,000, 20,000 years old etc, but hundred thousand or million of years old.

[@sdbaral7721]

🙏🙏🙏to Nilesh Oak for the dedicated research and logic on the Saraswati River.

[@vasudhanaidu7949]

Sir I am a big fan of yours and starting taking interest in our history after watching your vedios on KZbin. . It's surprising to know that how old our Hindu civilisation is and how advanced we were during that period itself. Please keep publishing amd making vedios of your work so that the present and the next generation knoe the true greatness of our civilization. I have one suggestion. Why is our government not approach scholars like you to make a good book on our history and culture for the schools so that the children have right foundation. All our present books on history are misleading. Please put pressure or give suggestion to the government to atleast make the correction now.

[@ashokdeshpande8695]

Vivekanand centre is running several schools in North - Eastern part of India. Poorvanchal. They have introduced a book for extra - reading for eight th standard students "Invasion That Never Was" by Michel Danino. The author took efforts to publish the book in very lucid language and in abridged form.. a special school edition. The same is now translated into Marathi language by Suhasini Deshpande, published by the Vivekanand center and efforts are being made to introduce the same for schools in maharashtra. Even interested laymen also should read it to erase their past sanskaras made by their school education.. it's interesting.

[@justforknowledge6367]

Brilliant, Shri Nileshji, this is a talk that is sure to wipe off the 'woke'. Awesome! Please have at least an ebook published with all the research details and references.

[@sowjanyar628]

Appreciate your knowledge and kind of facts you show to world. Great work Sir

[@NileshOak]

🙏 🙏

[@shraddhagupta7145]

Thank you for sharing your research and knowledge of the great Indian river maa #Sarasvati 🇮🇳 🙏 We are very grateful to your service towards enlightening us.

[@NileshOak]

Thank you.

[@yogesh97ys]

I like videos a lot sir I have seen many of them like, Mahabharat, ramayan, Bhishma nirvana, surya Siddhanta, and many others on your channel, on Sangham talks, and on sattology

[@NileshOak]

🙏 🙏

[@despob6874]

Please Put the all your lectures in Hindi on KZbin again. So lot many Indians can understand the same. Very good effort for educating the very educated Indians. Keep it UP.

[@Sumon-bj2rq]

Greatful

[@galenbindewald775]

Thank you for your fine work. I traveled in India 2008, I told everyone, I lived here when the Sarasvati was a river...nobody understood. when I was 12 i saw a globe in the library (1st), i walked up to it and and stuck my nose right on it and there it was in that fancy writing the words Rann of Kutch, i was stunned (to this day 60 years on) i could not, believe i had found it. i did not know what it was but i had found it and i was thrilled.

[@gayatri555]

What are u saying?

[@gayatri555]

So u lived here 7k years ago

[@galenbindewald775]

@@gayatri555 I have very strong feelings about the time and place. Sarasvati is a key to me.

[@anonymous-ui8xw]

Are you high?

[@Anjul2828]

@@galenbindewald775 come to india you are time traveler we need you to find truth.. you dont worry about anything about material things like money and future just pack a bag and come… Indians will look to you..

[@Ak-cw8yy]

Rishi Nilesh Oak ji is a phenomenon. My danda Namaskaram to him. I have a lot of reading to do before I begin understanding his works.

[@aishakatayysha]

Intense research...a real eye opener...thank you young scholar

[@aghildyal]

Absolutely amazing!! Nilesh on the front foot!! Taking names and calling out faces!!!

[@NileshOak]

🙏 🙏

[@satyam1529]

I think the Thar Desert is created when Saraswati river dried up during that period time and small tributaries which were there at time not mentioned in our books, due to their smaller stream something like that.

[@sharadavidyarthi1173]

Very much amasing at the research made on Saraswathi river .A great awakening of our thinking and accepting . Definitely True facts should prevail

[@siddharthsingh5742]

Thanks a lot Sangam talks for providing us with such great info

[@hariharansankaran9012]

Thank you Nilesh. May God bless you

[@aartimav7743]

Deep understanding and clear concepts 👌👌👍👍🙏🙏🙏

[@NileshOak]

🙏 🙏

[@mytube12]

Saraswati will flow again, to mark the beginning of satya yuga

[@kuroao4269]

@El Malakh Feo maybe we can see it in another reincarnation

[@swatigawade5577]

Yes... definitely.

[@cvreddy3893]

Indepth analysis with facts

[@musickartik]

Mind blowing discussion. Opened up lot of literature for me

[@sarajmanas12]

Dear Nilesh Sir ... Waiting for this session

[@nimma007]

@Nilesh oak ji ...you are a gift of God to reclaim dharmic civilization.....also Bala sanskurathri works with you thanks for all your contributions you have fulfilled essence of your janma..

[@NileshOak]

🙏🙏

[@anilprasad7294]

Thanks for this research and knowledge sharing with us.

[@debabratabanerjee7461]

There has been a lot of discussions on evidence-based authentication of actual Indian history. But if an institution wants to teach this, there doesn’t seen to be any systematic teaching material, nor teachers. We cannot wait for the government to take the initiative. Is it possible to generate such teaching material suitable for school level introduction of this subject all the way till advanced university level? Otherwise, we will perpetually need to convert the stream of wrongly taught students for ever. A comprehensive plan be chocked out by like minded committee. The work can be distributed, monitored & managed.

[@anonymous-ui8xw]

A break through can come if we look at it from global point of view, like Greenland crater......

[@komalach5780]

Revival of ancient sanatan hindu civilizational strength 👍🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@krishnanunni9034]

excellent

[@iguyblr]

In India such research is never carried out we are busy aiding conversion to islam and evangelist, probably we are hell bound to keep gods in museums than temples

[@vijaysainath9691]

populistic methods wholesale conversion tactics ,-not there in hinduism. Even slightly rearing its head now and whole lot of awareness about hinduism (essence of sanatana dharma)is immediately dubbed as "hindutva" ,RSS .. or anything political!!!Generations of Hindus of some /many familes during british era slowly stopped believing their own customs ,rituals, culture, started calling themselves atheists,and such people were easily drawn into other faiths.-leave alone forceful conversions during mughal rule and later portugese down south. In such scenario whither Hinduism?

[@anonymous-ui8xw]

@@vijaysainath9691 honestly speaking,it would die out from subcontinent and people who are adopting to it in foreign will keep it alive after a century or so.

[@grandcanyon1000]

Is it possible to have our own institues teaching Indology, so that people do not have to think of which university out of India is good for these studies.

[@pranjalvats46]

Yaar how strange it seems that we Indians could not build such an institution in these 70 years? And then we diss these foreign universities about how they portray our ancient civilizational facts and thoughts in a malefic manner in front of the world, to the student and more importantly to the average Indians so that they keep feeling low about their own past which is so RICH. As u suggested we must put in a lot of effort into researches without any propaganda and bring all that in the open through journals and establishing institutes while obviously growing and becoming more and more powerful in every possible way!

[@vidya9587]

We need such badly. Indian education needs reforms

[@duttjinerdeb8760]

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[@ShriShivay_Official]

Fantastic Seminar Session... Great Q and A. Thanks to All Scientists, Researchers, Historians, and Writers making a great contribution in correcting Indian History. Govt. of India should acknowledge their hard work and should bring their marvellous contribution to Mainstream Textbooks and Academia. sincere request to @PMOIndia

[@rajivranjankumar3316]

Wonderful research and truthful statement by Nilesh.sir

[@Kashi-jz4ew]

There are Saraswat Bramhins in Maharashtra who used to live near Saraswati river.

[@siddharthsingh5742]

Nilesh Oak is the best of all

[@rhetabrata]

The Swaraswati River had always been my core interest post I read Michelle Danio on it. Thanks for this lecture Sir. My Humble warm regards.

[@NileshOak]

🙏 🙏

[@venkatreddy8829]

Amazing intelligence, discerning power, ability to communicate effectively. Keep up your very valuable work in demystifying facts and wealth of historical and very significant events in Indian subcontinent of such significance

[@rajivranjankumar3316]

Jai shree Ram

[@FirstLast-vr5gh]

Nilesh Oak ji, Pranam and dhanyavad. Powerful insights into our ancestry. Its a pleasure to listen to you. Thank you for opening our eyes by imparting right ( satvik) knowledge. We chant Saraswati shloka. Both Goddess Saraswati as well as river Saraswati are close to my heart.😊 Regards 🙏🏵️🙏

[@NileshOak]

🙏 🙏

[@vidyakulkarni6899]

खूप खूप कौतुकास्पद 🙏🙏🙏

[@RajaThakur-mz9wu]

Salute. Koti koti naman. Humanity will be under debt forever like it is to the sages of ancient india. Thank you

[@goelglobal7175]

You are doing great work, all Indians are with you

[@geetanjalideka5419]

Thank you so much Nilesh ji!

[@snehaambekar9737]

It was great, thanks Nileshji 😊🙏

[@disn2173]

VERY VERY INTERESTING AND AUTHENTIC HISTORIC AND ALSO GEOGRAPHIC NARRATEVES OF ANCIENT BHARAT .

[@praveenrai6965]

Koti koti praNAms to Nilesh ji for putting this gargantuan effort to release Indian narrative (based on ItihAsic and physical evidence) from the clutches of agenda-driven Western Indologists and their Indian counterparts. Why I feel he will be a huge success is that, he is full of shraddha and isn't doing it for money or awards. This is about having skin in the game, to use another one of Nassim Taleb's famous phrases. When an author does his writing purely to satisfy his passion for the subject, and not for his livelihood, it shows that he has skin in the game. Nilesh ji and many more younger intellectual kshatriyas that are emerging on the Indology horizon may not have PHDs in humanities or may not be part of the academic "scholars" cartel, but they sure possess brilliant intellect, deep sAdhana to do good research and shraddha towards Indic cause. When we reach critical mass in the number of these researchers with skin in the game, our Indian narrative will be in the hands of our people. Satya will triumph in the end.

[@NileshOak]

🙏🙏

[@thetechtuber11]

Namaskar Guruji.

[@mukundbondale3774]

Great work sir, Greetings 🙏🙏

[@sashapillai7430]

Thank you Nilesh Ji .💕

[@jayaryavart4425]

हमारे वेदों और पुराणों और उपनिषदों और रामायण और महाभारत को काल्पनिक बताकर हमें अपने इतिहास से दूर रखा गया है ताकि हम आर्य है वह कभी भी जान ना सके। लेकिन आज हम आप जैसे ज्ञान के उपासकों की वजह से हमारे पूर्वजों के सच के करीब पहुंच रहे हैं। सनातन धर्म की जय 🙏🙏। हर हर महादेव 🙏🙏

[@swatigawade5577]

Yes...and stolen our valuable ancient books.

[@shrikantmnit]

Thank you making us informed. This is indeed a new beginning to understand our culture more scientifically. ❤

[@nageshkamath4740]

Please keep this meaningful discussions going ahead. Let many of the serious bring in interested & the nuetrals & take on the fake narators & finally the truth will prevail by proving the fake narators with their contradictions in their own positions & with real & ligically perceived proofs/dialogoues.👌👌👏👏🙏

[@yuvarajkamath7104]

We r saraswatas

[@Uschigitana]

A wonderful presentation , Nilesh !

[@ganesanponnusamy6812]

good talk by a learned person.

[@piyush2298]

Well said Nilesh ji.

[@navinharia1243]

Ours is continuous civilization and it's good that we have platforms to learn and get knowledge from our non European centric sources. Let's move up and catch up and learn from past histories to get more United against enemies in many guises within and foreign as well

[@jitendrasaverker]

This is so Wonderful for me that ,I don't want it to share it.

[@arup1968]

I like this

[@maheshjshah48]

You are a great presenter with excellent communication skills.

[@NileshOak]

🙏 🙏

[@moebius2217]

Indians need to give a damn about Western Approval and have confidence in their interpretation;after all the Indians gave the world the number system,conceived zero,forged ahead in metallurgy ,architecture,created fabulous languages,scripted Epics,introduced Yoga,Ayurveda and virtually were ahead of rest of the world in every conceivable field!Anyways absolutely fascinating lecture on Saraswati!

[@ranvijaymehta]

Great Job Sir .. Thanks

[@pankajmittal9457]

Nileshji your work is tremendous.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@s.k.mukgly2833]

HAR HAR MAHADEV

[@dr.niluferrahman8524]

Very informative

[@bprmel]

"Cut a Diamond with a Diamond" and use Desi names to rubbish India- 18 min .. you are "frank" and "bold" 😀, river signature at 59 min 🤗. Your stamina, your linking of complex information from practical point of view and substantiating with logic and research.. best👌

[@NileshOak]

🙏🙏

[@rajivranjankumar3316]

Wonderful initiative and beautiful statement by you sir

[@NileshOak]

@@rajivranjankumar3316 🙏 🙏

[@zkykmxgj7490]

Mr Oak says as it is; i like it!

[@AlkanandaMohapatra]

Thanks for uploading 🙏

[@bellarysuma1361]

Sir, great 🙏🙏 thank you

[@briandavid4796]

💯 Correct Nilesh. Indians need to break out of the western conditioning if they are to truly understand their history.

[@drsmitaddutta2211]

In my village in rajasthan we still believe a water body there is ma saraswati

[@pilotcyborg.gaming]

Nilesh oak sir 💙💙

[@despob6874]

Please Put the entire lecture in Hindi on KZbin again. So lot many Indians can understand the same. Very good effort for educating the very educated Indians. Keep it UP.

[@sharadpatel1281]

👍 Good Information

[@prashantpandya9250]

Waiting

[@srividhyavs3685]

Small suggestion to improve visualisation would be to show the river flow diagrams as you did in the first part in the last part of the Saraswati journey timeline explanation. Here it is pure text and we can’t quickly recall all that you mentioned in the first part.

[@shrirangbondale8711]

Please write a book on this .... I bought your mahabharat and ramayan book.... absolute pure knowledge 0% propaganda

[@NileshOak]

🙏 🙏

[@parasnathyadav3869]

JAI shree RAM 🙏🙏

[@jayendrakumar5853]

There are many chances that river Sarasvati might be travelling below the soil some kilometers as Antharvahini. When i went to Allahabad people are saying it is Triveni sangham (Ganga, Yamuna and Sarasvati confluence). Great Minds can dig it deep and understand the things. It might be existing now also but we cant see the things below the hard rocks.

[@pankajjoshi1209]

"Intensification of Monsoon" in the Mahabharata time.. No doubt we have Krishna holding the "Govardhan" on his little finger to protect the residents of Gokul from the incessant rain.. Are there any other mentions of the intensified Monsoon in Mahabharata? Also does the presence of Aravalli affect the "shifting" of Sarasvati from the Bikaner channel to Kalibhangan channel?

[@NileshOak]

1. Yes, There are other mentions of intensified Monsoon in the Mahabharata text. 2. Presence of Aravali has no effect on the shifting of Sarasvati. Study Tectonic and earth crust displacement effects.

[@ranapratapsingh3416]

I always lamented when did River Saraswathi exist. Your evidence makes me believe that the early parts of Rigveda could easily be dated to 7000 BCE.

[@sarojinichelliah5500]

I may be wrong but wasn’t the existence of River Saraswathi proved through satellite imaging?

[@fit.avinash]

Correct. But this is about dating of the rivers

[@vipulchaturvedi7390]

You are one of very few who refers to Toba explosion. Being from jaipur pleasantly surprised that initial channel passed through here.

[@siddharthaghimire2415]

25:30,Love your work!

[@jimjimson8673]

👏👏👏

[@harshachandand6190]

yes you are very much correct about Devdutt...

[@djsunshine1]

Thanks 👍👍

[@amanjoshi2848]

🙏

[@deva8496]

7:53 please help me to find resources to learn more about the dates and errors. I heard many times from you about carbon dating done using soil sampling. Is it same?

[@nagarajamagonahalli9040]

Saraswats, from Kashmir, have settled down along coastal area of Karnataka, from Rathnagiri to Kasargod-driven from place to place by fantics of some religions. Anthropology can prove they are from banks of river saraswati.

[@swatigawade5577]

But genetically it's proven that they are of Eureshian origin....kayastha.

[@srdmedslkzj]

Rightly said ...groomed

[@wellnesscoachaa]

🙏🙏🙏

[@KarthikKanthimathUnPrEdiCtAblE]

Great knowledge but still have little confusion which I'll try n sort out if not I'll come back to you. Anyways thank you somuch.

[@vinodmishra2888]

सनातन धर्म. की. किताबो. मे. सच. हे

[@rohansawai6534]

You and Praveen Mohan should definitely work together.

[@vidya9587]

It's a excellent video with lot of quotable quotes. But length of video is very long. Try making shorter ones. Thank you very much 🙏

[@aritradutt1843]

@Sangam Talks ... How do I know you are organizing an event or lecture ... I would like to attend live events ... please let me know. I am very interested.

[@sachinmahajan9067]

आओ चले असत्य से सत्य की ओर , अंधकार से प्रकाश की ओर , मृत्यु से अमृत्व की ओर , आओ चले प्रकृति की ओर , आओ चले " सनातन " की ओर | धर्म की जय हो, अधर्म का नाश हो |

[@vedashriram39]

Saraswati river probably still exists in our collective memory; triveni sangam at Prayag; worshipping Saraswati as Goddess of knowledge.