Best Hammock Camping Tarps - Warbonnet Superfly

[@RiverKingsKayak]

What is your favorite winter tarp? I will be reviewing several. Perhaps I can get my hands on one you would like to see...

[@PegasusTheMajestic]

I'm extremely glad you're doing these types of videos. River kings got my family into kayaks. Now you guys have shown me useful information about hammock camping and tarps. This has opened up a whole new world for adventures for us. My son joined cub scouts this year, and we're trying to decide on what kind of gear to set up for a November camp out. It's hard to do in Oklahoma because November could be 70 degree's or 20 degree's.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

@@PegasusTheMajestic Right on! Thanks for the kind words! There will be at least two more tarp reviews and possibly some more. I know it can be overwhelming so hopefully this will help!

[@outdoorspd3352]

Chillgorilla Fortress , $99 got this one last year and did several snow hammock trips with it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2mve2BnarmDmc0

[@five9eight]

Tarp, I run the Superfly as well. But, when it gets cold, I break out my Smokehouse mini hammock hot tent with the Seek Outdoors Ti stove. I am in WI, so the cold I speak of is cold cold, not chilly.

[@Jonsson7]

River Kings. You talke sometimes on Kelty Noah's tarp. Can you show us how you use it int the winter.

[@PhilCherry3]

I'm driven by some of the same considerations you listed for yourself in this video. In fact your earlier video featuring the Kelty Noah 16 helped me as I sought to upgrade my initial tarp/hammock setup. I first started with the Kelty Noah 12 as my camping tarp. It is tough and does not leak. But I was not quite comfortable with its converage over my 11 ft. hammock; even when I set it up in the diamond configuration. One sleet-fill rain with 20 mph wind gust let me know I probably needed a tarp with more coverage. I enventually settled on the DD 4 x 4 tarp. It offers 13 ft. of coverage on all sides and can be deployed in an A-frame configuration that carries its sidewalls to the ground while still allowing six ft. of head room inside. When deployed this way, its ends can be closed off door-style to further insulate the interior. It kept me comfortable and bone dry in 4 days of rainy, cold camping this past April.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Good stuff! It is all about finding that sweet spot that fits your needs!

[@robertburgess749]

Great video alot of good information. One of the reasons I like hammock camping is the air flow. It prevents condensation and provides concealment from thermal

[@RiverKingsKayak]

right on Robert!

[@LowLumens]

If you need bigger try Simply Light Designs. Jared makes excellent hammocks, tarps and other gear. It’s a custom shop but my Winter Haven tarp from him is perfect for what you described as your needs. The XL Silpoly will have almost 6ft walls per side but you can customize it and ask him to add 2’-3’ more per side so you can go from ridgeline to ground. I have used his tarp for years with no issues. He reinforces all pull outs/tie outs ect. Seam seals it and can add any hardware you want. Beastie D’s line locs ect. You can choose a more durable material too. Great video.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Low Lumens! I will check that one out!

[@kgilliagorilla2761]

Brandon says his tarps are cut and sewn to go under the ridgeline. Snow slides right off. I have used mine in snow many times, no issues. My Mini-Fly also is a great tarp. If you use the spreader poles,{made by Warbonnet for that tarp} you get alot more headroom. Windy nights I pitch it low, and have tons of room for the hammock. Warbonnet rocks!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Good deal KG! Thanks for the info! I still prefer over. We often actually get less snow and more ice down here. Ice does not slide off. I have never used the spreader bars myself. I too have the mini!

[@dannyminton8870]

Hey I agree with you I have one in camo the walls could be longer the coyotes can come in and bump your bottom the way it is was woken up once that way great video keep safe

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Wow! That's a fantastic experience though! Nice to hear from you as always Danny!

[@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING]

I have had the Warbonnet Superfly for about 2 years. I absolutely love it. The doors have been a game changer. I’m thinking of switching to a dyneema tarp. But, they are super pricey. You have a great channel. I subscribed. ✌️

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks! Welcome aboard. All my WB gear is top notch!

[@pauldarbishire7226]

Thanks good stuff. I use a DD Hammocks 5m x 5m camo tarp weighs in at 4.2 pounds. It's a great tool!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Paul!

[@payakadventures]

I have that same tarp in 11'. I have the pole mod for the pullouts. I keep the height down and side walls steeper to get the closer to the ground. I had them as close as 6" away. I use shock cord for the doors and they overlap which helps incredibly for high wind and rain. I throw a video together and show ya my setup. I have some dutchware gear for tarp connections.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Good deal PA Y A! Will be looking for it...

[@MichaelMiddletonTBH]

Good review, Pete. I've been using a DD 10x10 square tarp for a few years. For three season camping I like the ability to raise one end with poles to make a "porch". Three of us huddled under that setup last week in Colorado to get out of some afternoon rain showers. It's great waking up to the beautiful views in the mountains! In cold or windy weather I can quickly drop the poles and enclose it in a similar A frame (and even bring the corners in to enclose it further.) Of course, the 10x10 starts to get pretty tight when closed in, but it's pretty good for one person and gear. I'm leaning toward going with a lighter weight sylnylon option next year, so I'm looking forward to more of your reviews.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Michael! My go to warm weather tarp is about 10 x 8. Once you go in a tarp to ground config and close the doors off on a cold night, it's hard to go back!

[@garrycollins3415]

I like your opinion/attitude. I love my Warbonnet tarp.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Garry!

[@cavtj1]

So, you are saying that a more ideal tarp should 13'X16'? That would be nice! I have the 11' Warbonnet SF. I discovered they had 13' after I got it. Can't catch a break. Thanks for posting Mr. Pete!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks cavtj1!

[@PADDLECAMPFISH]

Right on time, great review! I can see from your adventures where staying warm, dry and comfortable is key to refueling the body for the next day. I got the Warbonnet Mini fly and it works out well in my area, I've been really wanting a superfly so I think it will be a good Christmas present from my wife lol! Great job. Looking forward to the next adventure!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on PCF! I will be doing 2 or 3 more with different manufacturers versions of winter tarps... I'll be doing one on Enlighten equipments Palladin, hammock gear Journey and possibly others. I'm even in talks with one company about making me a custom Style! But I definitely have enjoyed all of War bonnets products over the years!

[@PADDLECAMPFISH]

@@RiverKingsKayak cool looking forward to seeing those videos, I'm learning how to see the V now on your video, now as I watch you guys I see it almost every time!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Good deal! It gets easier and easier.

[@geneo3654]

You've convinced me !!! Got to get the superfly !!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

right on geneo!

[@timdrinnan]

Good advice as always Pete I think that why people may have bad experiences with starting hammock camping. Way too small need to keep that wind out.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Tim! I think so...

[@deerless2965]

I have a very similar setup. I hang my SF lower in cold weather to close that gap. It makes entry and exit slightly more challenging, but cutting the " blow thru" at night is a huge plus. Great video! I agree with all of your thoughts regarding what's truly important.... New subscriber now!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Welcome aboard Deerless! Thanks for the input!

[@MonkeyNAround]

Great video. I want to pick me up a winter tarp this fall for some winter camping.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I think you'll really enjoy it

[@timbest987]

Thanks Pete for sharing this information. I am just getting into hammock camping and into more quality gear.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Tim! My name is Pete and I'm a gear a holic! Lol.

[@highvoltageclimber]

Great review, looking forward to your next video

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks HVC!

[@nuclearoutdoorscampingtips5850]

Pete!!!!! Love these videos.......I’m a chill gorilla guy......mine is pre laced to hang in a minute or less...... I will make a video on it this weekend

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on!

[@erikatkinson1395]

My personal favorite best winter tarp is the winter dream tarp by UGQ ( Under ground quilts )

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on!

[@erikatkinson1395]

I will tell ya why its because there tsrps are more customizable as well as the doors have snap buttons so you can snap up the doors at night! Have you tried using the loop aliens on your continuous ridgeline?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

@@erikatkinson1395 I have. I actually made a loop alien video a few months ago. I'm trying to get my hands on that winter dream btw

[@Jason-qe4tp]

That fly part KILLED ME...lol funny as hell

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks jjgm 2730! Trying to have a little fun with it! LOL

[@SteeleBurchell]

Lol, me too. Actually had to pause the video to confirm I didn't have audio coming in from another tab... then I figured out what the audio was and had a good laugh.

[@chrisxx012]

Out of all the tarps you have checked out which one had the biggest sidewalls ?and which one did you like better?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Sorry for the delay Chris...I have been traveling. I most prefer the UGQ Winterdream.

[@thoughtfulkayaker8065]

Just saw this video. Good post. No nonsense. Gear has to work. All the other data is mostly irrelevant. I go out because I like to. Miserable does not make for likable.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks TK!

[@KentuckyWoodsman]

Tons of room under there for sure. Seems like a really good quality tarp, but I will be curious to see if you prefer it over the Kelty Noah. Great review as always!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

For sure! Thanks KW! Drop me a message on FB. I had a question for you.

[@KentuckyWoodsman]

@@RiverKingsKayak Will do!

[@turtleheadboys5263]

hey brother great video, I liked how much space was under it! going to go check out warbonnet out right now

[@RiverKingsKayak]

They make some great gear!

[@blakehurst8695]

I got this on my Christmas list hopefully my wife will get me one, the one I got from Walmart is about a foot to short

[@RiverKingsKayak]

That would be a perfect gift!

[@howardross2743]

Pete, I just purchased my very first hammock and tarp ,- Warbonnet's Ridgerunner and Superfly. Also got 100' of Zingit. Before I start cutting the Zingit, I was wondering how long the ridgeline and tie-outs should be? Thanks

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Howard! I usually make all of my ridgelines 40 feet long.

[@lawrencestokes5745]

Good review, thank you. Have you or any of your paddling mates used an Old Town Castine Kayak for the sort of river camping trips you do? Would love you to do a review of the Castine. They look good on paper, but could be a different reality once on the water and in grade 1-2 rapids. Keep the vids coming. Cheers

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Lawrence! I have never used one. I have a connection that might be able to get one for me to review. I have heard several people talking about them as an option in the tsunami type Market

[@lawrencestokes5745]

@@RiverKingsKayak I'm really looking for an alternative to your Nana . I've noticed on your videos that your mates seem to ditch their Tsunami's as soon as they get their mits on a Prijon Yukon. There are plenty of Tsunami's available down here in Aus, but unfortunately no Nana's :( hence the search for an alternative.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

@@lawrencestokes5745 I tried nearly every touring layup made. There is simply no direct equivalent. Prijon claims their enduro series is new all rounder kayak. I have never seen one in person or paddled one though. Dagger stratos gets good reviews.

[@rubberduckproducktions532]

@@lawrencestokes5745 i have a Tsunami 145, and @River Kings can tell you, im a pretty big fella. Personally, i would like to paddle a Prijon, but i have sat it, and its a bit tight for my size at 6'4" and 270 ish lbs. My Tsunami has been slighly modified for my comfort. Believe me when i say i would be in one if I felt i could make it work, but have not given up on finding a way to make it work. My biggest complaint of the Tsunami is its lack of manueverability versus the Prijon, as the River Kings have demonstrated . Secondly, my experience level isnt quite high enough to get the most out of my boat. That part is a work in progress!!

[@lawrencestokes5745]

@@rubberduckproducktions532 Hi Rubber Duck. I too am on the large side and the Prijon replacement for the Yukon - The Enduro, I think, doesn't carry enough weight, specially if I want to camp in comfort :). I'd be interested to know what mods you've done to your Tsunami. Pete said the Dagger Stratos has had good reviews, however what I can see from the internet it seems to have a similar hull to the Tsunami.

[@iowamatt2519]

Is the next trip in the upper midwest? We just got hammered with rain this week, and all the riers will be runnable for the rest of the season

[@RiverKingsKayak]

It was not originally going to be, but we are possibly adjusting plan at the moment.

[@iowamatt2519]

@@RiverKingsKayak let me know if u need any suggestions on rivers, shuttles, or burgers

[@RiverKingsKayak]

@@iowamatt2519 will do!

[@iowamatt2519]

@@RiverKingsKayak By the way, there's a Prijonin the Northern Wisconsin craigslist for sale, I'm just a little to genetically qualified for that boat.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

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[@gregvogel165]

I just ordered the 11 foot version before I watched this . Now I wish I got the 13

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I hear ya Greg! They may change that for you if you call them up!

[@myadventureoutdoors]

This is all great and everything but what type of moisture wicking underwear do you wear when hammock camping?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Ha ha ha!!!!! Nailed it!

[@genehobbs1825]

That is an awesome weight...

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Yes sir! They are a good weight and still durable and dependable. The next tarp I review is coming in at only 9 Oz.!

[@danielvalencia6582]

Hey Pete, which do you prefer for your blackbird? The superfly or the journey?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

My top pick is the UGQ Winterdream... kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYbKe6yqnseSiac

[@mrbeefy9947]

When you cook under your tarp does the tarp keep in the odor of your meals you have cooked ? Do you notice any bad smells

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Any cooking I do in that tarp is simply boiling water for a freeze-dried meal. Other cooking will not be done under my sleep tarp...so no bad smells or residue for me...good question!

[@shannonlee2833]

Between the Superfly and Winter Dream tarps, which one did you like more? I cannot make my mind up between these two. I apologize in advanced if this question has already been asked!!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I prefer the Winterdream. It has snaps on the doors, and is a silpoly vs a silnylon which allows for a simple shake dry with no water absorbtion...

[@davidseals2939]

Thanks for the video- I am an avid tent camper but new to hammock camping. Do you get condensation with these kind of tarps in winter? I should clarify, I don't mind if the tarp gets wet on the inside but I do mind if its so much that it drips or runs onto my quilt.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Not really. If I wall it to the ground it can condensate a bit. It doesn't affect your sleeping experience though, esp if your tarp has a good steep angle on it. It is just annoying when you walk around and brush your shoulder and get it wet. LOL. Hope this helps!

[@willisblevins4190]

Nice video thanks

[@RiverKingsKayak]

You bet Willis. Thanks!

[@MeetMeOutside]

Your killing me ! Eight foot side wall ? Just lower your attachment points, you can get the tarp to basically touch the ground ! I do it all the time in winter ! The 13 foot ridge line was made for the Ridgerunner bridge hammock, that’s what I use. It allows the doors to be closed beyond the spreader bar suspension, wow !

[@RiverKingsKayak]

he he he! I have triggered an ultra lighter! Carry on Cragdwella! do what makes you happy! Remember, I am most often kayak camping where weight and space are not as big of concerns. This allows me not to have to crawl around under cramped 4' tarp ceilings. Thanks!

[@MeetMeOutside]

River Kings I am by no means an ultra lighter ! I have been canoe camping for a long time, you’re correct about being able to carry more items, and weight isn’t as much of an issue, but being practical is. Cheers

[@RiverKingsKayak]

@@MeetMeOutside you should at least try it!

[@thewonderingelectrician]

Where's mine

[@CrownJewelzMusicGroup]

I use a 4x4metre dd tarp..gives me height an width to get my hammock bike an bags inside from floor to peak i think its 6ftish

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Perfect!

[@CrownJewelzMusicGroup]

@@RiverKingsKayak i wish it was a bit longer maybe another ft or 2..the heights gd tho

[@RiverKingsKayak]

@@CrownJewelzMusicGroup it is a never ending quest!!

[@CrownJewelzMusicGroup]

@@RiverKingsKayak i know but id be much happier with an extra foot of floor space

[@twentyonetwelve2179]

I have one and spoke to Warbonnet... they recommend NOT placing it over the ridgeline.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Yes, i have heard that before. My personal experience has created a preference for placing it over. That's the good thing about Hammock Camping there's a million ways to do it all!

[@macpalmer6611]

What is your 2022 winter and Summer tarp setup ?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I use the UGQ Winterdream (when it matters) and the Kelty Noah's 12 (simplicity). RKB has the Super Fly, and has really enjoyed it! You cant go wrong with either the warbonnet or the UGQ, but I do like the UGQ for the silpoly material that absorbs no water and has no stretch when wet. The super fly can get a little heavy, sloppy to handle and pack if it is soaking wet...that is the only real difference

[@macpalmer6611]

@@RiverKingsKayak I Appreciate the informatin....Thank You .

[@Pablito46]

3 more feet of tarp on either side would mean adding 60% of its current weight, bringing it up to 2.2 lbs. That would be one extremely heavy tarp.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Heavy, but very warm. Also, as I primarily kayak camp, the weight is not a great concern.

[@Pablito46]

@@RiverKingsKayak I see. I'm a backpacker, so I'm counting grams.

[@MeetMeOutside]

No need to seam seal the ridge line, I have three Warbonnet tarps and have been using them for a long time, keep it simple.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on!

[@nuclearoutdoorscampingtips5850]

We need a man trip buddy....... preferably soft water.....I don’t wanna die!

[@psychologicalsigma9917]

Stakes pull out, trees do not. If ur tree pulls out u probably have bigger problems.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I found out once that a tarp can throw a stake 50' in the right wind...LOL.

[@JohnnieDoe183]

Great video, but please ditch the crappy music in the BG. So annoying!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks for the feedback Steve!

[@MeetMeOutside]

You don’t need a ridge line, the Superfly has a built in ridge line.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

You are correct. However, I always prefer and utilize a Ridgeline. There are a few reasons. The beauty of all this is there are many ways to do it!

[@joshuaroe3021]

Great info, but please lose the dang music.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Josh! If you dont like music, this may not be the channel for you...LOL