How To Rebuild the Top End on a KTM/Husqvarna/GasGas 250 & 300 2-Stroke TPI

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Whether you blew your bike up, are having a loss of performance or just want to refresh your engine for the riding season. Rebuilding the top end on your KTM 250 or 300 TPI is a great way to get familiar with your dirt bike and prevent catastrophic failures in the future. Knowing how to do the job correctly will save you tons of time and money compared to taking it to a shop. In this video, Charles shows how to rebuild the top end on a 2021 KTM 250XC, but this process will be similar for KTM, Husqvarna and GasGas 250 and 300 2-stroke TPI motorcycles.
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@samadventures2160
@samadventures2160 Жыл бұрын
This video is aweosme I’m 14 an rebuilt my 2019 Ktm 300 exc all on my own Whatching the steps of this very detailed video 👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽
@mguarin912
@mguarin912 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah kid. Nice work.
@alfa955
@alfa955 4 ай бұрын
Holy shit my mom didnt let me ride a moped until i was 13
@s30ztt
@s30ztt 2 ай бұрын
And never rode the same or started up ever again, I'm the neighbor, glad he upgraded to a real bike a 4 stroke! At least it's quiet now😂
@jeffcook8501
@jeffcook8501 2 ай бұрын
When i was 8 years old my dad took a yz 125cc motor and put it in an 80cc frame and that is what I learned to ride on. Lets just say i learned respect for my bike quickly. Hit that power band, and it took off like a raped date. (as my dad would say)
@jimg9942
@jimg9942 8 ай бұрын
Great video Charles! EXTREMELY helpful to a guy who has not done a top end rebuild for 40 years!
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 8 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!!!
@mattcollins3572
@mattcollins3572 7 ай бұрын
These are the best videos on the Internet.
@MikeHughesShooter
@MikeHughesShooter Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Excellent work. Ordered kit from you because of this video.
@TwistandShout257
@TwistandShout257 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeoooowwwww! Great stuff Charles! Keep it comin 🔧
@coffeeinthemorningsun2121
@coffeeinthemorningsun2121 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this perfect and detailed video 👍! Greatings from Germany!
@human1513
@human1513 2 жыл бұрын
Great video in many ways. Thank you for making it.
@batipapo
@batipapo 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video with all the detailed yet concise. Them circ clips look more like a puzzle.
@208enduro
@208enduro 2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video. Thank you
@ivandelavalle
@ivandelavalle 2 жыл бұрын
Best vid ever thanks so much
@WD469
@WD469 2 жыл бұрын
Great detailed information.
@anthonystruik1164
@anthonystruik1164 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Charles, thank you. I just wish that inserting the piston circlip is as easy as you make it out in the video.
@mschumaker1
@mschumaker1 2 жыл бұрын
buy the EZ clips from Slavens. It's the only way
@h3aDmAsTeR
@h3aDmAsTeR Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@andreatreviso8049
@andreatreviso8049 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍
@DYLLY0456
@DYLLY0456 2 жыл бұрын
That’s crazy how you can get those clips in without scratching the piston at all, i did the top end on my 250 yesterday and scratched my piston on both sides🤦‍♂️ wish I had seen this video first that trick with the screwdriver would have made everything so much easier haha
@freedom7047
@freedom7047 2 жыл бұрын
super video
@jimbo4203
@jimbo4203 2 жыл бұрын
My dad showed me how to rebuild a 2 stroke on my 78 Yamaha it 175 . I was 14 and she was running great afterwards
@henning_8246
@henning_8246 Жыл бұрын
Please Help me: I cant torque the spark Plug because the cumbustion camber spins. What can I do?
@RICHIE_RICH89
@RICHIE_RICH89 Жыл бұрын
Start it up thats the best reward for pete sakes
@mastermat630
@mastermat630 Жыл бұрын
what type of grease are you using ?
@4JMcCart
@4JMcCart 9 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t you have added coolant and let it bleed through the temp sensor before putting the tank on? (I’ve done it with the tank on also)
@corysargent5234
@corysargent5234 3 ай бұрын
Question: is it wise to run the oil relay to actuate the oil pump before the first start?
@lifewithabe312
@lifewithabe312 2 жыл бұрын
Would this be close to the same on a KTM 125?
@ericdawson3425
@ericdawson3425 Жыл бұрын
Thanks boys
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
Glad it was useful!
@motosz255
@motosz255 5 ай бұрын
The retaining washer for the control valve in this video is triangle shaped. This is different that what is in the KTM exhaust valve blueprint which shows retainer plates instead. Where can these retainer washers be found?
@jakemassa8420
@jakemassa8420 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I’m wondering, what steps are different when performing a top end on a 150 TPI?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 7 ай бұрын
Your 150 will be very similar to the steps shown in this video and this will be a great guide to have on hand for your rebuild. Thanks for checking out the video!
@Jeff-pc1zu
@Jeff-pc1zu 3 ай бұрын
I would say this KTM is actually "oil injected" as opposed to fuel injection like the TBI is. If and when the oil pump goes this bike will seize up! TBI is a much better option as you still put oil in the fuel.
@jacksonbuck7481
@jacksonbuck7481 Жыл бұрын
Your website sells two different OEM piston kits for the 2022 TE300i. Which kit do I need to buy? Kit #1 or Kit #2?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
You will want to take off the exhaust control cover on the right side of your cylinder and see which number is stamped on it. Then you can order the corresponding piston. We have a short video explaining more about this here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rajRnHt_m5V5bdk
@senor7857
@senor7857 2 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert: you are going to have nightmares with the piston circlips 😉😂
@woodygamer9454
@woodygamer9454 2 жыл бұрын
Ez clips are your friend
@isaacacers3986
@isaacacers3986 2 жыл бұрын
ive been having nightmares with the bloody piston rings cant seem to get them into the cylinder :/
@LukeMorphett
@LukeMorphett 2 жыл бұрын
No kidding.
@LukeMorphett
@LukeMorphett 2 жыл бұрын
Ezy clips sold out...
@ChrisKAloha
@ChrisKAloha Жыл бұрын
Set the z before you put the cylinder on the bike. And if you don’t loosen the jam nut set screw you don’t have to reset it.
@AustinM-wf5nk
@AustinM-wf5nk 11 ай бұрын
What kit would you guys recommend for a 2021 husky 300 tpi with 112 hours on it?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 11 ай бұрын
We used the Vertex piston kit for this rebuild and have had good luck with them. Also, the Pro X top end gasket kit will come with all the gaskets and seals you need so you don't have to dig through the OEM parts finder and find them all individually. The first link in the video description will take you to a page where you can see all the parts and tools that are needed.
@MrSTEALTH125
@MrSTEALTH125 6 ай бұрын
what is that cleaner you are using on the power valve? I've tried oven cleaner and carb cleaner and it is still a lot of work compared to what you show in the vid
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 ай бұрын
That's the Polaris Carbon Clean Fuel System Cleaner. You can check it out here: www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/polaris-carbon-clean-fuel-system-cleaner-p
@user-fz8fy4zl1c
@user-fz8fy4zl1c 2 ай бұрын
TPI really died a death,no wonder with all the associated issues, glad riehu and beta still offer good old fashioned carbs 👍
@timslucky
@timslucky Жыл бұрын
One thing I haven't seen in any video is the orientation of the ring gaps. Is there any particular best position in the cylinder and are the two ring gaps offset 180deg from one another or what. What is common practice?
@robbiechiles36
@robbiechiles36 Жыл бұрын
their are pins in the ring land that orient the rings.
@timslucky
@timslucky Жыл бұрын
@@robbiechiles36 Thanks. Yep I found them, and she's running great.
@brandonshreve3201
@brandonshreve3201 Жыл бұрын
OEM parts lists a piston 1 or 2, how can you tell which one to use?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
You will have to check the piston that's in your bike. It should be stamped with a 1 or 2.
@KhatanbaatarBuyantogtokh
@KhatanbaatarBuyantogtokh Жыл бұрын
how to repair cylinder my cylinder has a so many scratches. can you teach
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
We have a video showing how to inspect your cylinder and how to repair it if possible. You can check that out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5_JgaFmgtmChrs
@alext4124
@alext4124 2 жыл бұрын
When deciding on a base gasket height, would it be ok to just reuse the same size as the one(s) you pulled off?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. That might be a good starting point, but the reason you'll want to check the deck height is because the new parts can vary slightly due to manufacturing tolerances. I'd recommend checking it to avoid problems. -Charles
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 2 жыл бұрын
My 300, the previous owner had a .025 cylinder gasket. That's way off from factory. I was worried but I knew the previous owner had a mechanic do it, so I put same size back in. It turned out ok.
@otmuppet
@otmuppet Жыл бұрын
All about squish. You can fine tune your squish via base gasket. Most two strokes are built way too loose. Only fix is shaving the head
@nickyyoung1992
@nickyyoung1992 Жыл бұрын
The smaller base casket more compression more power.
@Triple9MX
@Triple9MX Жыл бұрын
You skipped the one portion of video I’m looking for, how did you loosen the nut on the cylinder on the power valve side? I can’t seem to get a wrench in there with the rod in the way
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
Shoot, we removed ours with a box end wrench. It should fit between the rod and radiator hose. Pause this video and you can see where the wrench is at. kzbin.info/www/bejne/raivhHx6e8mJiJY -Charles
@Triple9MX
@Triple9MX Жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc thanks for the reply, I'm wondering if there's thinner sized wrenches than what I have, I ended up having to remove the power valve mechanism to get it loosened. Thanks for the help.
@enduroa.k.o
@enduroa.k.o 2 жыл бұрын
What size piston did you go for at 80h ?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 2 жыл бұрын
We used the Vertex piston which is 66.35 mm.
@sebastianlassen8674
@sebastianlassen8674 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a piston change tutorial for the fe 501 2020 preferably🤣
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 2 жыл бұрын
We have a whole engine rebuild series for the 450, 500 and 501. You can check out the full series here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npzEpqeqmsmmqKc Part 5 will show the top end assembly process, including piston replacement.
@paulinebeckett2740
@paulinebeckett2740 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Charles but the only quality part on that KTM was the NGK Plug.
@STHusky
@STHusky 6 ай бұрын
One question can I over torque a bolt by 6-8ft-lbs more because my KDX 200 requires 18ft-lbs and my torque wrench is 25-250ft-lbs
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 ай бұрын
We would not recommend it. There is a chance you can get away with it but there's also a good chance you break the bolt or cause other damage.
@STHusky
@STHusky 6 ай бұрын
@@rmatvmc ok thanks
@corbettenders4257
@corbettenders4257 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, except you skipped checking the X-Distance... you show buying 3 base gaskets, how does your viewer know which one(s) to use?
@davidalexandru9176
@davidalexandru9176 Жыл бұрын
How to choose the corect piston size?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGGQiKd8j89rd7M Here's a link to our Piston to Cylinder Wall Clearance video.
@bobes919
@bobes919 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you find a Z dimension tool from ?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 2 жыл бұрын
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/search/go?w=decking%20and%20timing%20tool%20
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 2 жыл бұрын
The first link in the description of this video will take you to a page with all the parts and tools use in this video including the Tusk Deck and Timing Tool.
@bobes919
@bobes919 2 жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc thanks
@tuckeradams9225
@tuckeradams9225 4 ай бұрын
i wish you wouldn’t edit out the parts where you struggle. it makes it seem like it should be easy as pie when in reality it’s not that easy u just edited it out. be transparent shown it all!
@kordapyo612
@kordapyo612 2 жыл бұрын
28:35 why does both piston ring ends are aligned?
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 2 жыл бұрын
Look at 28:14 in the video..
@andrewcooksey2255
@andrewcooksey2255 Жыл бұрын
@@onthethrottle7104 not true. there is a locator pin for the rings on 2 strokes. If not, the ring could rotate and the end get caught in a port.
@norton218
@norton218 2 жыл бұрын
I have always been told to never use a ball hone in a 2 stroke cylinder because the balls can catch on the transfer ports and damage the cylinder. Is that not a issue anymore?
@keshmo12
@keshmo12 2 жыл бұрын
That's 1 reason. The other reason is that the cylinders are nikasol coated and a ball hone can damage the coating. All you need to do is scotch brite the glaze off the cylinder and it's good to go. Some people say the nikasol coating is so hard that the ball hone doesn't hurt it. Ball hones are good for non -coated cylinders generally.
@wanmuhammadfakhrullahwan8078
@wanmuhammadfakhrullahwan8078 2 жыл бұрын
,👍👍
@EricNeilson_
@EricNeilson_ Жыл бұрын
No cussing! Miraculous.
@tonyt1554
@tonyt1554 Жыл бұрын
Only because they edited part of him installing the wrist pin clips 😂
@senor7857
@senor7857 2 жыл бұрын
Tip: do not remove the middle screw in the right power valve mechanism, then you won't have to set Z dimension again
@human1513
@human1513 2 жыл бұрын
But then you cannot remove the exhaust valve control shaft behind it to clean the shaft and cylinder in that hole and replace the "o"ring. So why do an approx. 90% job when the engine top is completely removed and being inspected & cleaned. As a mechanic / technician not doing this is considered being a hack.
@senor7857
@senor7857 2 жыл бұрын
yes, you can, at least in a 2020
@ChrisKAloha
@ChrisKAloha Жыл бұрын
The only reason you would need to set it is if you loosen the jam nut set screw. Even if you loosen the middle screw you still don’t have to set it.
@redball4093
@redball4093 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@alin2107nicholas
@alin2107nicholas 2 жыл бұрын
Hey charles I'm wondering, if I buy the base cylinder gasket off the OEM diagram, do I get different sizes or just one gasket?
@CharlesTheWrench
@CharlesTheWrench 2 жыл бұрын
Scroll down to #22 on the parts list or whatever number it shows for your bike, and you'll have about six options. The last two numbers in the part number should be the thickness in mm. so .20mm-.75mm. -Charles
@alin2107nicholas
@alin2107nicholas 2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesTheWrench thanks a lot!
@richardhartley7094
@richardhartley7094 Жыл бұрын
What size was new piston A or B👍🇬🇧
@andreatreviso8049
@andreatreviso8049 2 жыл бұрын
Subtitle Italian please
@cliff1551
@cliff1551 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the bolt on the left side arm mate
@mathieu6514able
@mathieu6514able 2 жыл бұрын
At what time you saw that in the video?
@csiautodetail
@csiautodetail 7 ай бұрын
this is a lot of work every 80 hrs.
@tonyt1554
@tonyt1554 Жыл бұрын
Torque the cylinder to spec......as he uses a combination wrench 🤣
@jurgenjurgendebono4007
@jurgenjurgendebono4007 2 жыл бұрын
80 hours are way to early to change the piston
@sakariputtonen2683
@sakariputtonen2683 2 жыл бұрын
By the manual..
@michaelwcarpenter5824
@michaelwcarpenter5824 2 жыл бұрын
@@sakariputtonen2683 Still way to early to change rings or a piston!
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 2 жыл бұрын
@@sakariputtonen2683 Manual states 80-100 hours.
@MAXlMUS
@MAXlMUS Жыл бұрын
KTM just making sure they have something to eat 😁
@cfilmz_tv7769
@cfilmz_tv7769 6 ай бұрын
Definitely not that easy for the wrist pin clip
@fullyrc8555
@fullyrc8555 2 жыл бұрын
Dam my 2014 ktm 450 is more simple than this top end rebuild! And they say 2 strokes are easier
@gophop
@gophop Жыл бұрын
The whole thing about 2T top end jobs being simpler than 4T is such a meme. Would rather set cam timing than do all this crap.
@MAXlMUS
@MAXlMUS Жыл бұрын
You're not choosing between 2T/4T based on this aren't you?
@Ridefastorgetpassed
@Ridefastorgetpassed 2 ай бұрын
Another POS Kymco cylinder. Shame on KTM.
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