RMC Wild Moose Concept POV | NoLimits 2 | Oaks Amusement Park

My local amusement park, Oaks Park, released that they were considering adding an RMC Wild Moose to their lineup. However, they would have to remove their go-karts if they wished to get the standard layout from RMC. They hoped that it might fit in the parking space next to the go-karts, but due to the L shape of the lot, this wasn't possible. However, I decided to try to create a layout that would not only slot perfectly into this space but also fix many of the problems that the RMC layout had (possible valleying issues, inconsistent pacing, uncomfortable transitions, etc).
When I presented this layout to the ride director and CEO of Oaks Park, they were very receptive of it and, though an addition like this is years down the line for a small park like Oaks, they wanted to stay in contact with me as they moved forward the project. In the meantime, they were interested in me releasing this POV on my channel to see what others thought of the concept.
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HUGE credit to Kohl for the Wild Moose trains! ( / @kohlercoaster )
LAYOUT FEATURES:
• World's FIRST outer banked drop!
• Several sustained floater elements
• Giggle inducing twists and turns
• Forces and transitions that are comfortable and appropriate for younger audiences and a class four restraint system
• Slight outwards lateral forces on every turn to enhance sense of speed and add a greater out-of-control feeling (a common technique on wooden coasters)
• More consistent pacing and forces allowing for a "pure fun" ride experience
STATISTICS (RMC layout statistics in paratheses):
• Length: 1,170ft (1,260ft)
• Top speed: 35mph (35mph)
• Height: 50ft (47ft)
• Footprint: ~11,000ft² * (~11,500ft²)
• Duration (lift to brakes): 33s
*Footprint could be significantly reduced as described in "other notes"
Other notes:
• The footprint could be made even smaller if the turnaround at the top of the lift was tightened up and the drop at 0:31 was a falling S hill, turning to the left sooner and immediately rising up into the midcourse brakes.
• Yes, that is the satellite data from google earth in NoLimits 2. No, I am not a wizard.
• This project took roughly 15 hours over the course of 4 days to complete.
• At the time of writing this I work full time at Oaks Park as a ride operator and am a second year student at the University of Denver studying mechanical engineering.

[@jacksongrace]

TURN ON SUBTITLES FOR ELEMENT INFO! Note: Positive forces range from 2.3g to 2.6g in large valleys, most turns not mentioned include outside laterals of at least 0.2g, and the maximum negative g force in any seat at any point is -0.3g (outer banked drop, last row left seat)

[@PrinceRoyceFan667]

RMC needs to hire this dude. I could feel the air time sitting in my chair

[@Noperison]

Yes

[@VincentSmart-f9r]

Same

[@Alexgreat-mz2dj]

Its already a blueprint on their website 🤭🤭🤭

[@coasternamegenerator5611]

Check description

[@sonnypruitt6639]

It's all in your head.

[@brianschulz7833]

So awesome you got positive feedback from Oaks! Opportunities to design coaster layouts seem exceedingly rare-it would be really cool to see an “indie” design such as yours become reality.

[@nimexwolf]

This is fantastic!!! Have you ever been approached by coaster companies to help design other layouts before? It would be an absolute win for us enthusiasts to see one of us NoLimits nerds end up going big!! Congrats!!!

[@jacksongrace]

I haven't, but I'd love to be able to do this sort of thing later on :)

[@FynnsFury]

Immelman Footers was a nolimits nerd but got hired by intamin and worked on the project for portaventura :)

[@coasternamegenerator5611]

@@FynnsFurythat’s what happened to him?

[@thecasualatvguy617]

​​@@FynnsFuryshit i would be happy if i ever saw gerstlauer make make Harp drop/ lift hill combo or any other inversion i make up. Im going to see if i can make it work on an rmc im working in now. Its called slimer's revenge and on my other channel. It made the coaster roundup playlist a few years ago.

[@Silvarret]

This is one of the best super compact coaster layouts I've ever seen, well done!

[@jacksongrace]

Thank you! :)

[@jasonedmunds]

This is a great layout! Miles better than the one released for RMC to be honest!

[@The_Tedstar]

Excellent concept

[@gamebrogaming10111]

as a local enthusiast, god do I hope this happens. they could easily be the first to install this model which should bring in a lot of enthusiast, and it will also complete the lineup that they can do by having a kiddie, a family, and a thrill coaster.

[@jacksongrace]

Yeah, I think just having a third coaster period would bring the park to another level. Btw they're also currently in the process of getting a drop tower! :D edit: it will be in the space of where the food carts are now. I actually put it in the pov if you look to the right as you're going up the lift. It will also be the same model as the drop tower at Silverwood! (not sure about what height they're getting, but it's a great drop tower model either way)

[@MatecaCorp]

I live way down near the CA border but I'd absolutely make the drive up if the park got a third coaster, especially an RMC

[@connor.monroe]

My home park is Oaks too!!! I'm glad to hear that they are wanting to keep going in this direction with their rides

[@kohlercoaster]

So glad my trains were put to good use! Fantastic family coaster layout man!

[@CoasterDash]

This would be fantastic! As Oak’s is set to become one of my home parks in the near future, I would adore this addition and I think you did a great job with this layout.

[@jacksongrace]

Thank you so much!

[@eastonchristensen3601]

Oaks is my home park, it sucks, this would help so much😂

[@frostflake6076]

As an Oregonian, I can confirm Oaks park either needs a wild moose or a raptor

[@TheWolfXCIX]

I agree with the other comment, this is far superior to the RMC default layout great job!

[@drdewott9154]

That is great looking, possibly the best take on the WIld Moose Ive seen yet. If the leadership at Oaks and possibly some RMC folk sees this, youve got a winner on your hands

[@jacksongrace]

I actually know that of a couple people at RMC that have seen it. I also showed it to Joe Draves at IAAPA :)

[@MostChillMatt]

This would be an amazing addition

[@danielgates9911]

This would be a phenomenal addition for Oaks and I’m all for a custom layout that helps them keep their go-kart track. Excellent work!

[@jacksongrace]

Thank you!

[@shineandcriss]

This is very cool. We live outside of Portland and would LOVE another coaster added to the mix, but we would HATE to see the go-karts go away. Thanks for sharing!

[@skidawg79]

Correct me if I'm wrong, this is a little different than the layout RMC announced 2-3 weeks ago right? I kind of like your layout better than the one they released. Good job.

[@jacksongrace]

Though it has a similar station, lift, and brake setup, and very similar statistics, the track path is fully custom :)

[@Alexgreat-mz2dj]

“That switch track is sooo cute omg!!” 💀

[@CreatorCreepy]

looks awesome!

[@whylifeis4]

this is amazing! its so well done, rmc needs to see this!

[@jacksongrace]

Actually they did and said they loved it :)

[@whylifeis4]

@@jacksongrace :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@millencolinpunx]

Looks like a cool ride!

[@ukeman1143]

Oh my god. If they do this I will literally go insane. I grew up on oaks park and JUST moved from portland (four years ago). Horrible timing but still hyped. If I ever visit again I'll make sure to hit this (if they make it that is).

[@rct3isepic]

Is it wrong that I REALLY want to get one of these and make it a space mountain type ride? Because I do.

[@Boofski]

Impressive given the constraints mentioned in the description

[@coasternamegenerator5611]

Pretty sick that this could be a real coaster in a few years

[@vdgvova9495]

did you make the steel structure by hand???

[@jacksongrace]

I used the wooden support generator partially, selecting all the supports and everything else to steel beams (3x3 L beam). However that really only got about 2/3rds of the supports needed, so I had to add some additional supports. This all took me about 7 hours to do iirc.

[@DeLunaThemedDesign]

Wow, fantastic job! What a great improvement to the Wild Moose layout. Love that outerbank into the drop! Really hope this ride concept takes off and we see a few custom versions like this! Also, I would love to hear how you were able to export Google Earth data and import into NL2. I've tried a few different methods that have failed and would love to hear your process. Thanks in advance!

[@jacksongrace]

Thanks you! Also getting the Google Earth data is actually surprisingly easy once you have it set up. If you want to do it, follow all the instructions in the two links below! You will need to replace one of the files in the download of the first link with the file in the second download. Google Earth Decoder: www.reddit.com/r/FS2020Creation/comments/j3faaj/google_earth_decoder_now_userfriendly/ Update to Google Earth Decoder (won't work without it): flightsim.to/file/39900/gogole-earth-decoder-update Once you have it all set up, open Google Earth decoder, select the area you want, select the output folder, adjust the LOD range (the higher both of the nodes are, the more detailed), and download the file. The file you just downloaded should be called "modelLib." Open this folder, then open the "texture" folder inside it, and move all the images out of the texture folder into the modelLib folder. Finally open blender and import everything from inside the modelLib folder. Then you can export everything from blender as a .gltf and import it into NoLimits 2!

[@DeLunaThemedDesign]

@@jacksongrace Amazing! Thank you for the info!

[@hawkguy531]

I wanted an RMC inversion or wall walk. That could be such a cool spectacle in this compact layout, maybe try a big gerstlauer-type long hanging inversion that stretches over the layout. Dip a curving drop hill under most of the rest of the track and emerge with a long hanging inversion to dip you into the rest of the layout.

[@jacksongrace]

Well, the wild moose model has a lot of restrictions, including class 4 restraints which only allow up to -0.2g (or really 0g to be safe and account for variability). The park owner and ride manager of Oaks also said explicitly that they wanted this coaster to be as different from Adrenaline Peak as possible. This included focusing more on hills and laterals, and being family friendly (both of which remove inversions as an option). However I do like the ideas you presented. A compact thrill coaster in this style could be a pretty fun concept, kind of like an El Loco but with longer trains :)

[@glenntaylor9144]

One of these could work so well at Thorpe park, Alton or chessington. But Pat realistic place is Paultons Park as this is a far more family friendly ride and Paultons are brave enough to invest in such rides.

[@cartcody]

I love this! Would you like to collab on a future coaster possibly?

[@jacksongrace]

Yeah sure! I’m down

[@cartcody]

@@jacksongrace alrighty! What’s the best way to keep in contact with you? Discord, email?

[@jacksongrace]

@@cartcodyprobably discord

[@thecasualatvguy617]

When i get done with a base layout of an rmc i need to send you the file to add to. Lol. I have a couple of elemnets that will be interesting. I still gotta work on the good air time spots and angles like this ride which makes an rmc unique.

[@Knexstuff-thrillcrafts]

This is a mini wildcats revenge

[@MatecaCorp]

That's incredible! Oregon needs another proper coaster, and yours is absolutely perfect. Have they announced the drop tower officially yet?

[@jacksongrace]

Thanks! I don't think they've announced it yet, but it's definitely happening

[@MatecaCorp]

​@@jacksongrace I actually found your video because I was doing some "what if" drawings of Oaks Park and I wanted to include a Wild Moose in that exact location

[@jacksongrace]

@@MatecaCorp Oh nice!

[@CZsWorld]

What is this? An RMC for ants?!

[@jacksongrace]

Yes, but also for people too :)

[@mynameiskrysta]

How did you do the google earth thing!!!

[@jacksongrace]

It's actually pretty easy once you know how to do it. If you want to do it for yourself, first follow all the instructions in the two links below (you need to replace one of the files in the download of the first link with the file in the second download). Google Earth Decoder: www.reddit.com/r/FS2020Creation/comments/j3faaj/google_earth_decoder_now_userfriendly/ Update to Google Earth Decoder (won't work without it): flightsim.to/file/39900/gogole-earth-decoder-update Then in Google Earth decoder, select the area you want, select the output folder, adjust the LOD range (the higher both of the nodes are, the more detailed), and download the file. The file you just downloaded should be called "modelLib." Open this folder, then open the "texture" folder inside it, and move all the images out of the texture folder into the modelLib folder. Finally open blender and import everything from inside the modelLib folder. Then you can export everything from blender as a .gltf and import it into NoLimits 2!

[@bennyindrasmoro]

The problem with RMC is most of the roller coasters feel the same except the layout

[@johnfoltz8183]

Are you sure you want to completely demolish Go-Karts 1?

[@jacksongrace]

“No”

[@TheWackyhead]

“Go-Karts” … strong word for what they are

[@JamarChaseIsHIM]

tut to make coaster smooth??

[@jacksongrace]

My smoothing method in a nutshell is that after I’ve finished the track shaping, with low laterals, finalized roll nodes, and a lot of track verticies but still with some jitters, I add a track vertex in-between almost every original track vertex (so about double the number). While doing this I move all the roll nodes back to where they originally were if they move. I then simply depump everything. Edit: I never depump at any other point, only at the very end. Also the sole point of the addition of vertices is to make sure the track doesn’t move as much from its original path when being depumped.

[@Greaseball27]

Is this game easier to make smooth coasters than planet coaster?

[@jacksongrace]

Absolutely! It takes some practice of course, but after a while you can make something not just incredibly smooth but also fully intentional in relatively short amount of time (though getting the shaping I wanted took a bit longer, the smoothing process I used took me at most 30 minutes for this coaster)

[@Greaseball27]

@jacksongrace That's good to hear. All I have is an Xbox, and I've been thinking about getting a pc. I've been struggling with getting the shaping right and getting the coasters smooth on the planet coaster.

[@dibble1331]

this is like rmc lost coaster or something

[@carlmathias4208]

how did u make the google earth stuff 3d ?

[@jacksongrace]

It's actually pretty easy once you know how to do it. If you want to do it for yourself, first follow all the instructions in the two links below (you need to replace one of the files in the download of the first link with the file in the second download). Google Earth Decoder: www.reddit.com/r/FS2020Creation/comments/j3faaj/google_earth_decoder_now_userfriendly/ Update to Google Earth Decoder (won't work without it): flightsim.to/file/39900/gogole-earth-decoder-update Then in Google Earth decoder, select the area you want, select the output folder, adjust the LOD range (the higher both of the nodes are, the more detailed), and download the file. The file you just downloaded should be called "modelLib." Open this folder, then open the "texture" folder inside it, and move all the images out of the texture folder into the modelLib folder. Finally open blender and import everything from inside the modelLib folder. Then you can export everything from blender as a .gltf and import it into NoLimits 2!

[@carlmathias4208]

@@jacksongrace idk man this stuff is hard to setup i cant download google decoder or im just stupid lol

[@jacksongrace]

@@carlmathias4208 Did you click "Here" under "Download it here" and get to the google drive?

[@carlmathias4208]

@@jacksongrace yup i have the google drive with every file but i cant get into the program

[@jacksongrace]

@@carlmathias4208 Have you downloaded everything in the google drive? (clicking the download button on the top right). From there, replace the file in the second link that I sent (following those instructions), and double click "Earth2MsfsWPF.exe" to launch the program. Fun fact: This was originally made for Microsoft Flight Simulator, explaining the name of the .exe file ("Msfs")

[@poopyguy1281]

George Floyd would be proud