RMT, P2W & Cheaters - Arena Breakout Infinite & Mobile

Reacting to the video from 1ceStream and giving my opinions on the topic in regards to real money transactions, pay-to-win, and cheaters in ABI.
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[@Eroktic]

1ceStream youtube channel -> www.youtube.com/@1ceStream Short stream today -> www.twitch.tv/eroktic

[@regorflora7915]

No banana skins. But we have a Bruce Lee yellow skin. You know that kill bill yellow jumpsuit?

[@GoodRNG]

Playing as a trio yesterday and a player scav stalked us near extract with SKS never missing a shot. We used all our heals, never saw him, and he killed two of us. As I was reporting him, he killed my friend and my friend received and in-game pop up that said “do you find this player suspicious?” We all got a notice about 2 minutes later saying thanks for making arena infinite a better place, and that the player was banned. So impressive to me and makes me want to support this game even more. 3k hours in EFT, killed countless times by cheaters and not one of my reports resulted in a ban. I doubt they were ever read or processed. ABI forever.

[@YTGregfield]

I saw a few guys in their discord saying the cheaters last like a day max and didn't believe it, this sorta backs their claims.

[@notsoanonymousmemes9455]

That is incredible.

[@brandonblackfyre5783]

*That's because of the "Internal" and "invasive" anti cheat that Tencent uses in their games. The only downside I have seen from their anti cheat is that it makes my PC fun extremely HOT. Idk if it's the game itself or the anti cheat but I've noticed all my games are running hot since playing Arena Breakout*

[@bestertyp6087]

Did you get your stuff back?

[@GoodRNG]

@@bestertyp6087 I’m not sure actually. Someone else said that in other comment that it comes back. I played so much that day I’m not sure if i got anything in the mail from that.

[@mesoohorni8134]

A WEEK OR TWO FOR MAJOR BUGS TO BE FIXED!? TARKOV TAKES A WIPE OR NEVER TO FIX A MAJOR BUG!

[@sw33tialucard]

Yep. I’ve been playing mobile games since pubgm, played codm, played Apex legends mobile and I can safely say the devs at MoreFun are the best and most responsive devs I’ve ever seen on mobile. They actually do care about their game and their community.

[@famazyt]

@@sw33tialucard bro what are you saying this community is full of either chinese bots or literally bootlicker fans

[@DerDrecksack87]

​@@sw33tialucard no corporation cares about communities beyond pandering to get the best monetary return out of them, but china is on a whole another level of taking advantage of a player base. We are also talking about china where they blatantly dont even care for their own citizens, just look up "gutter oil", "fake foods" and how every year thousands die because the corps building buildings put empty bottles into their concrete mix to save money and entire buildings collapse as a result, this behavior is supported by how their society works & rewards scamming just as it translates into gaming as a mindset and results in cheating. They always do something good to get you in but then they start squeezing you for money, this thing is going to be so full of cheaters & micro transactions that even that awfull Tarkov will look like paradise😂

[@brasileiroloko5375]

Dude in tarkov i still cannot build a gun without some error sending me to main menu wtff

[@GohanSama]

Let me fix this statement from you, it takes a wipe to: 1. Fix one minor issue 2. Introduce 3 new major issues 3. 2 issues that were fixed in previous version now mysteriously came back The Tarkov cycle

[@Deviant-Blades]

Once ABI implements the kill cam which is confirmed for PC the amount of cheaters will be even less I feel since it'll be hard to hide your cheats when people can see what you're doing.

[@kainoctis7724]

never heard of ESP? easy to hide

[@THON176]

@@kainoctis7724im sowy but dont campare ABI anticheat to tarkov anticheat abi didnt use it anticheat yet

[@user-qc5te9wk1s]

@@kainoctis7724no it’s not easier but not easy

[@jondavies]

Alot of cheats are ui based, so the UI can be switched on or off so record software won't show the cheats

[@aktymel3943]

Oh cmon he didn't meant it like the kill cam will show the cheats directly, instead you will see the enemy player reacting to you like tracking you through walls or just snapping 180 on your head

[@DevourOffworlds]

800 hour in Arena Breakout.. I can confirm the Devs are the best I have ever had for a game I've played in year's..the game is polished very player friendly... I spent 35 £ in battle passes and containers in like almost a year. It's all about being lucky and kno how to play... Iff you invest you're money be ready to also lose it because you will... Keep it strong Eroktic. I don't mind to help the game but buying som simple things ..and cheap btw.. it does help maintaining the game ..

[@eRasedXem]

Yeah i dont min paying 10/15 for battlepass or skins WHATSOEVER if they Devs actually listen like they have been doing. FINALLY GOOD DEVS

[@DevourOffworlds]

​@@eRasedXem most people are mad at the game. Because it does things right 😂..

[@eRasedXem]

@@DevourOffworlds facts fam 🤣 4000h in Tarkov n I already feel lii I’ll let these devs are WAY MORE IN TOUCH… they actually play their own games… and let’s be real Tencent money > nearly every other companies money… tencent the 19th biggest tech company and THE biggest games company. BSG could never compare lol… China money hits DIFFERENT bro lmao

[@Kevin-ex9vr]

hey people who is crying out on ABI because they'll implement paid reasonable stuff - PLEASE just return to Tarkov, and pay your $250 just to get access to a best server (-10 minutes of waiting) and shut the fyck up

[@martysonn]

Just a small correction: buying pixels in videogames is not an investment, it's a consumption. In other words, you're NOT investing money, you're spending money.

[@ZachFrags]

It’s pay to lose bruh.. you can go in with T6 gear and still get one tapped or get ya ankles broke by someone using dum dum ammo… buying gear doesn’t mean shit,

[@lightek]

It means a lot, armor in arena works much better than tarkov. But nobody wants a place where t4 armor players get no chance against t6 armor players. It's definetely ok that even t2 player can get lucky to bring the tank t6 down it is just not likely and of course it counts when some t3 player bring you down with dum dum but it still takes hell of a number of bullets to do so. So please don't say like it's about one tap. I need to spray and pray full magazine of dum dum to your body and pray that I hit of of your limbs by 2 shots. So if you are getting constantly sprayed by those, you are just bad. Maybe you should play t4 against full t6 few times and we ll see how it goes, it is mega hard, you need to be so much better than the enemy team, if you are you are rewarded by Chad gear, if not, U die in an instant. Actually it's well balanced, definetely top notch balance compared to tarkov. An I repeat that you don't wanna play a game where t6 can only fight t6 and is immortal to anything below, nobody would play such game, not even you.

[@gastramaybethatsucksatengl2315]

@@lightek shotgun ammo such as type 8 and RIP is 2 shot kill except the enemy have armor that cover abdoment which really rare to see because most of it were heavy. this evening i play Armory with 3 random teammate and i solo 2 guys with T5 armor and power ranger looking ah helmet with just a Saiga, my Saiga is 15k built btw because i use drum mag but if i use the 5 round mag it still only take 2 shot to kill on the leg. and to be honest with you doing such feat need skill, i died a lot just to practice it. i adopt that playstyle myself because i got killed by it 2 days ago and lost my T5 armor and T4 helmet with visor. shotgun leg takes more skill than MP5 dumdum from my experience because with MP5 fire rate it become much easier especially with drum mag. so from my experience and first hand account you can kill juicy enemy with cheap gear as long as you have the skill to do so and game knowledge about how to do it

[@venin5673]

Yeah skill and luck matters a lot

[@prkgwn]

u can argue that p2w doesnt matter in this game because “u can get 1 tapped” but its just the concept of being able to spend real money to get whatever you want without grinding

[@ZachFrags]

I’ve got 3k hours in AB… and I do not buy koen… I’m also a content creator, streamer for AB on mobile.. check out my stuff, I haven’t bought a single $ in koen

[@Alallthetime]

The skins in ab mobile are all military type or athletic type of something realistic looking. No weird monster or rabbit or alien skins

[@martysonn]

Wait really? I can't play as Nicki Minaj? Dead game

[@sohide8699]

Burce lee already released in ab mobile global in chinese version there is sarmurai skins soo prepare for more goofy skins. Yeah Very military game

[@GunRipper]

​@@sohide8699athletic type? Do you even read the comment before replying?

[@semperfi8941]

​@@sohide8699 It's still realistic tho, like Samurais armor literally existed at some point. Not some alien super suit lookin ahh skin

[@DMlTREl]

​@@semperfi8941samurai armor in modern war?

[@CodeEleven_86]

5:14 I gotta agree with this statement. Both west and asia have different market and culture within gaming industry. West is more heavy on pc and console, and community that against any p2w which's understandable. While Asian market is heavy on mobile and doesn't really mind with small p2w aspect(such as safety container, because you only gain wealth advantage and won't gain battle advantage which the game focuses on)

[@MEMUNDOLOL]

wait wait, what do wealth do in this game? why do you need wealth? maybe to buy better gear? wow stop so its turns out that if i have safe container which allows me to extract with more valuable items and make more wealth than i can buy better gear which gives me battle advantage WOW power of thinking and not licking dev's bhole uknow if i have no container and i fing lion 2x3 slots and i die i loose all my wealth spent on the gear, but if i donate 10$ i get 2x3 container and i keep the lion 450k money wow turns out P2W affects battle wow logic hmmmm

[@CodeEleven_86]

@@MEMUNDOLOL Yeah that's how western audience will react. Like I said, Asian market won't care much about it, they'll be like "Uh huh, yeah whatever. I'll grind ranked". Most of the time they'll just care the survival rate more than that small container, they'll just think "yeah, okay small container, whatever. Anyway time to go shooting". For wealth, they'll just grind, don't really care p2w stuff much.

[@CodeEleven_86]

@@MEMUNDOLOL Yeah that's how western audience will react. Like I said, Asian market won't care much about it. They'll be like "uh huh, yeah whatever. Time to grind ranked" then forget about it. They care more about survival rate than that small container. Wealth, they'll just grind, they don't care if that lion is in container or not. If you asked major audience, they'll be like "Small container? Yeah whatever, time to go pew pew".

[@CodeEleven_86]

Yeah that's how western audience will react. Like I said, Asian market won't care much about it. They'll be like "uh huh, yeah whatever. Time to grind ranked" then forget about it. They care more about survival rate than that small container. Wealth, they'll just grind, they don't care if that lion is in container or not. If you asked major audience, they'll be like "Small container? Yeah whatever, time to go pew pew".

[@CodeEleven_86]

@@MEMUNDOLOL Man I hate youtube keep deleting my comments. Anyway Yeah that's how western audience will react. Like I said, Asian market won't care much about it. They'll be like "uh huh, yeah whatever. Time to grind ranked" then forget about it. (1/2)

[@eikotehgrowingmouse]

If you play "solo" on mobile. They literally have replay from the killers perspective. I hope they add it to pc... The amount of cheaters being caught would be awesome.

[@KambingGaming531]

Bro.. I always playing squad.. And i have killcam after died.. Its not just for solo player

[@Minimaisteri]

abi devs are giving me hope in gaming community every game i have played is full of cheaters glitches/bugs and devs dont give shit about their games takes them years to ban them/patch i hope abi devs will keep this support with this community in next years when the game gets realise

[@sagitta98]

Glad seeing 1ceStream got in Eroktic's spotlight. I've been watching this guy since I start playing AB.

[@Ace753.]

I play the mobile version and I have a storage value of 80mil+. I don't pay for weapons, kits, skins. If anything, you can consider it as stealing $ or kits from those P2W players. PS, I rat most of the time 😂

[@Titere05]

That's right, if you suck and P2W then you're only donating gear to other players with your real money

[@Ace753.]

@Titere05 exactly my point. If you can P2W, then be prepared to P2L too. Anyway, I therefore don't see the issue with P2W, let them. Just take their stuffs if you can kill them

[@beanos2287]

Only thing I'm worried about is secure containers since that's pretty useful, but I guess if it's a couple of dollars per month it's not too bad.

[@Ace753.]

@beanos2287 Still, very limited slots and if you can kill-em, you can still earn. Also, in addition to getting "donation", wouldn't you feel better winning P2W players? They boost the economy and give you more loot, I don't see why not? Provided if you can win them of course. Be positive and optimistic 🤓

[@GunRipper]

You get 1×2 case for 2 days a weak from Season currency​@@beanos2287

[@ahmadrais5500]

i play AB Mobile from season 1, never pay for secure container and still make 13 millions koen..

[@raej6052]

Was there anyway to get a secure container be doing missions or without paying?

[@ahmadrais5500]

@@raej6052 yess.. there is free secure container every week in season store

[@immendez6320]

@@raej6052 Yes you can, you can buy 2 days of a 1x2 with ranked points in the rank store, it resets every two weeks.

[@wotbus]

You can get the small container (2x1) from weekly season store. Though its only 1/3 the size of the best one (2x3) (payed), the game sometimes give 2x2 containers for free in events.

[@Poppov56]

​@@raej6052 nope, you need to pay or wait for a week to buy ur own secure case for 1.6k rank points, rank points idk whats it called but it can be earned through playing ranked games like lockdown games or forbidden zone. You cant earned them through normal games tho but yesterdey I got 2x2 case after an event which helped me a ton

[@Floky]

"China will never know" Dude, China knows everything! THEY WILL KNOW hahahaha

[@nicolasgaither6247]

you either pay a monthly subscription for a secure case which is a 1x4 or you can get the 1x2 case for free from events or rank rewards. 1x2 is very useful and you can fit a secret document in there, but the 1x4 case only cost 3 bucks a month so idk about calling that pay to win.

[@dickelbrixjhonlague3235]

You forgot that 2x2 case can also be obtained from events 3 days last

[@WonkyFPS]

PoE is essentially pay to trade with only an initial cost for 1 Premium stash tab...and the MTX is🔥

[@HalIOfFamer]

Poe also free. I always treat free games as games I have to spend some money in to have fun, and those that don't force me to are a huge W. In Poe I've spent maybe around 15-20 euro and I don't need to spend a cent more. Not interested in cosmetics, so I bought a couple stash tabs and I am golden. 1500+ hours is well worth the 20.

[@WonkyFPS]

@@HalIOfFamer Totally agree, I only have MTX because I got tired of seeing Templars legs after 4k hours

[@HalIOfFamer]

@@WonkyFPS after about 800 it became Stockholm syndrome for me lol.

[@CaDzA818]

Its also Tencent game very fair, with Pubg also free but battle pass and skins and boxes but if you want...

[@mastersnu810]

​@@HalIOfFamerman , i wish there's game like poe in mobile but what we got is diablo immortal , there's this similar games called undecember but they fucked up at the start

[@ishuikamakura272]

Yo Eroktic, stuff in the game does not guarantee how good you are Mobile player since CBT1 here, I played shit on the beta until the first season, until I get good and improved on season 2, got my first thermal, 3 golden lions, a vase and lots of other precious items, stack of guns and armour, and some good ammunitions Skill >>> P2W stuff

[@dbeast8005]

Yooooo eroktik, mike stubbs strikes again😂😂😂😂😂

[@mikepowell5097]

Nice, the algo working overtime, i just started checking out his vids this week too.

[@Titere05]

It's fun to see Tarkov players pre-complaining about how difficult it will be to prevent cheating in this game. Dude, chill, at least wait for the cheaters to get here first

[@regorflora7915]

Ice stream is a solid guy. You all just wait as ABi developed into a perfect game. I would visit this video again after six months.

[@maximumuseless5679]

rmt just got into a new level : buy an item but never receive it

[@demolitionkid2]

Ice is a solid dude. He's always streaming and is a good player. He dced one time came back and was dead . His thermals gone....the whole stream cried with him lmao

[@Alallthetime]

I have reported a cheater in ab mobile and got a message from devs dying thank you and that the plate got banned the same day. They also gave me back the gear I lost to the cheater. I can't wait for it to come to ps5

[@mungischungis1988]

Here’s the best description of path of exile I’ve ever heard: path of exile is a 30$ game with a free expansion every 2-4 months. And the best part? That 30$ is totally optional

[@bored_grape]

I've been playing F2P Arena Breakout since S2, and I jave around 12 Million and another 3 million worth of gear in my inventory. It's easy to get good gear in AB if you're not playing like a crackhead.

[@elliottevans5583]

On mobile, I have purchased the season pass once. I never needed too though, so much gear and gear bundles are given to you. I usually have around 2 million koens and yes I die a lot but it's so easy to make money, to get gear.

[@mamrdevpraze]

Sherpa from EFT now kicking rocks when ABI has actual relationship between content creators and devs. Tencent actual giving me hope that they want their games to be fair for everybody. But PC door is Pandoras box and heaven for cheaters. Armory is like Reserve. TV Station is like Labs.

[@Disarmony128]

Tencent only puts out certified bangers. Not only do they outright own Riot, but also major stakeholders in PoE, Last Epoch, etc. If anything, they've proven they're not interested in the same scummy p2w monetization that most devs are forced into by the likes of EA, Activision, Embracer Group, etc.. Or just get outright shutdown after acquisition by said groups because they just like monopolizing IPs.

[@notsoanonymousmemes9455]

Cheaters so far only last like a day or two at most on the Beta, they must focus on Anti-Cheat as it is very well known by now that cheaters are the main cause of player decay on extraction shooters (see The Cycle, well known case study on the matter), they have Tencent's backing and Tencent owns Valorant's Anti-Cheat, they must likely have a modified version of this anti-cheat, as Valorant's Anti-Cheat struggles with certain sophisticated DMAs, ABI devs have a team focused on anti-cheating and Tencent's endless backing, as they have a great interest on this anti-cheat technology and Arena Breakout Infinite will be their development ground for its further improvement. Tl;dr: Tencent is gonna invest greatly on ABI's anti-cheat as they have interest on the anti-cheating tech and the game's success on PC, it was pretty successful on mobile and their anti-cheat was really good there, so they have great interest and investment on PC as well.

[@lilpullout]

you're literally special ed if you think tencent is going to be good. they're capitalizing on a once in a lifetime opportunity by copying a huge game and getting away with it

[@tosher_exe]

nikita saying "we can't do anything much more for cheaters" but have they ever did something?

[@xTRNT]

They encrypted there packets at one point a ton of radar users got banned but it made the game unplayable so they had to revert it. Don't get wrong I don't like nikita but they have tried to stop cheaters. its just not really possible to get them all.

[@alexanderaphonin7850]

1) kernel-level anticheat is not a guarantee that there won't be cheaters. 2) kernel-level anticheat from tencent is a problem itself. valorant is probably the most sus game in terms of activity on the system

[@LightTrack-]

I've never seen a cheater in any of my Valorant games and i've heard of any gone viral either. I'm sure you can find some if you look but Valorant is notorious for how free of cheaters that game is.

[@shu3684]

no one said its a guarantee but it takes care of most blatant cheats or popular ones

[@snippidippi]

Only problem I find with this game is the unbalance of ammo level as lvl5 bullets that cost like 1000-3000 per bullet can more or less wipe any of with one bullet, so all budget players gets wiped by pay2win players...

[@ZachFrags]

I’ve been playin the game for year and 5-6 months, I’ve only ever bought battle pass & skins. I’ve never once bought Keon, but I also am a pvper and I also rank grind. I am also a solo player, only time I play with teammates is on stream with viewers.

[@philwriker5214]

How much does the Koen cost? Respect for the pvp. I'm a bit new to chasing it myself.

[@gamingwithdrgoblin]

​@philwriker5214 wayyyy too expensive, its a buck per 100k koen

[@philwriker5214]

@@gamingwithdrgoblin I think the tarkov boosters are charging 3 per 200k. Idk

[@hansfury7003]

The Reason Why It's Come To PC, It's Too Good For Mobile.

[@RuschGaming]

Able to buy money in game is not pay to win its “pay to convenience”.

[@nOseGoPro]

will be will be will be ! IT WILL BE ALWAYS LIKE THAT !

[@wojakthegreat6042]

Eroktic and 1ce both going to blow up with AB:I im calling it boys, both to 500k+ by the end of the year.

[@Andrei.F]

They said there aren't going to be any wipes, so good luck trying to kill the Altyn squad with your grease gun. You know how bad it is to start playing Tarkov late wipe when most people have high tier(meta) gear. That will always be the case for ABI. I really liked the playtest of ABI and I want it to succeed, but i won't run away from a Russian dev just to be screwed over by a Chinese one.

[@zen_d0461]

you're going to be playing in lockdown or forbidden with a greasegun? no youre not and normal is easy af and has no altyn wearing chads 99% of the time, i make 1 mill koen in like 6 hours on normal and ive only seen two level 6 biker helmets in 100s of raids on normal so your take is pretty ridiculous

[@ulrohermit1369]

​@@zen_d0461lol , the farm in normal mode is full of pimped out guns and t6 armours 😂😂

[@ulrohermit1369]

​@@zen_d0461cause thats where the koens at

[@tanvo3666]

​@@ulrohermit1369that true fr 😂

[@igorluca6887]

​@@ulrohermit1369 And thats great, i go in with a pistol and a shotgun and extract with t6 gear,

[@ZoraPMC]

At 6:43 this is no surprise. A ton of creators think the only way to make money is through views and partnerships. While this isn't entirely wrong, there are other ways to make the bag. For example, community funding, such as Ko-Fi, Patreon, etc. There is also affiliate marketing, by signing up to sell products you think your community will enjoy, such as energy or protein drinks, or you can even go high ticket like solar. In addition, creators can even make premium content behind a paywall, such as exclusive stuff or even courses like how to learn the game or how to also become a content creator. The sky is the limit if you put your mind to it.

[@skerxan]

that spit and flame LMAOOOO

[@chunkymonn5177]

Sounded fucking personal lmao. Any one know what he said ?

[@wzjc4]

I press like when you ask him to try out EFT for a week🤣

[@-2zz122]

1ceStream DID play Tarkov!

[@FilthyXD]

7:20 is so accurate XD

[@RMSLtnick]

Real Pay2Win = Not being able to progress beyond a certain point WITHOUT paying Arena breakout is pay for convenience

[@agr2190]

So you can say the same about tarkov 😂

[@RMSLtnick]

@@agr2190 oh agreed EoD definitely is Pay for convenience - EoD perks dont do shit for you in raid... that being said starting with lv4 storage is kinda insane since that saves you like idk? 30-40hrs of grind?

[@czarthy]

@@RMSLtnick what about trader rep? higher starting point for skills? tarkov is literally p2w stop fucking coping.

[@RMSLtnick]

@@czarthy git gud scrub? /S

[@herpderp7114]

That's called a demo. Pay to win means you can pay for things that give you an advantage in the game - more resources, better upgrades, etc. Doesn't matter how big the advantage is. The magnitude only matters to how slimy it feels and how much it punishes not whaling. Pay for convenience is the dumbest cope for justifying pay to win mechanics ever. Look, if a game offers you gameplay advantages for paying more then it's up to you whether you accept that or not - I've played p2w games before and even spent money on them while having fun playing them competitively, but there's no need to manufacture artificial copes to masquerade the fact that a lot of these games are giving people who whale more gameplay advantages. There's really no need to muddy this term by turning it into something completely nebulous and subjective. Customers justifying predatory monetization schemes ain't right, leave it to the corporations employing those schemes to justify them to you - it's their job. If you simp for them, then a 150 dollar pack that gives you p2w advantages turns into 250 dollar pack that gives even more p2w advantages one day and you'll be left there with your mouth agape trying to figure out how this could happen.

[@smiley3495]

cheaters could still sell carries. 5 bucks and he wipes lobby for you. i hope they find a way to combat these scumbags

[@kurdaitcha5806]

Association bans, if the person who wasn't cheating actively sought out an invite or whatever instead of quick join. There'd be ways.

[@immendez6320]

@@kurdaitcha5806 And there are, you can get a market ban in the MB version, the amount of koens that you made playing with the cheater. It puts them on you as a debt that you must pay to be able to use the market again, if you don't have that amount, I believe i get the koens and sell your stuff, like RL debt lol

[@abdulkareemaliyu8991]

If you play with cheaters... you will get banned too

[@dariusjankovskij8364]

7:45 brother i fell in love xD

[@teamfishbowl1076]

even cheap public cheats can bypass kernal level anti cheat easily , and they always do.. i dont know why people think kernal anti cheat is some kind of god send, its garbge..

[@mamrdevpraze]

People are more pissed that the invasion of private information than functional anti-cheat.

[@ranacreed7671]

nikita what are you doing here

[@JeyKalda]

@@ranacreed7671hes not wrong though

[@voidgaming3700]

@@JeyKaldahe’s literally wrong though, hackers have said it takes effort to bypass kernel level anti cheat, it shows you guys literally have no idea what you are talking about, to bypass kernel level you literally have to make a cheat that can somehow fly under the radar against an anti cheat that scans your computers files.

[@shu3684]

wrong

[@ThrobRoss]

I really hope they add a solo queue.

[@Pneuma777]

ABI is also focusing their anti-cheat starting from DMA and going up from there. So they are going after the most hardcore cheaters first which I think is really cool, cuz script kiddies are easy to catch

[@PEGA-SU5]

No free secure case in ab mobile im guessing it's the same in abi.u need to pay monthly for it.

[@Al_Will]

I'm using a free one right now..do you even play the mobile gane?stop lying damn

[@PEGA-SU5]

@@Al_Will u mean them two by ones that expires in a day 🤡 why are u defending this shit system it should be free and permanent for everyone

[@Queen-ch5ci]

​@@Al_Willthey are not permanent

[@Al_Will]

@@Queen-ch5ci it isn't permenent but its a free secure case..he said there's no free case at all in ab mobile

[@guns4merica429]

“Let me stay in China” Why the fuck would you want to do that

[@iBlaster]

after 4 years w/o coming out from home you will try to move to north Korea

[@MouldyCheez]

1ceStream played Tarkov before

[@diegofurlan572]

on PoE, the ONLY thing that you kinda need to buy in order to play the late game, its the stash tabs, and not all of them, and they ALWAYS put them on sale, once a month btw, so you can enjoy PoE without spent more than 10 bucks more or less for your entire lifespam into the game. Im really looking foward to see what they will do with arena on pc, hopefully it will not be harsh as i imagine it can be (tarkov traumatized a lot of us lol).

[@diemax1956]

In Mobile an Account who commits like team killing to steal valuable loot will lead the Account to be punished and also mods will confiscate a certain amount of koens. I saw someone posted a person who got reported and the violators koens were confiscated which was around 4.5 Million Koens as punishment for his toxic teamkilling behavior.

[@dudemisterbuddy6952]

listen. If u can buy like abi.. full price one time and u got the game for life.. Why would they work on the game anymore if they care about money? they already got the money.. so the passion will be gone quickley.. like tarkov.. BUT if u have to pay a fee of 10 dollars or 5 dollars every month for like a security case and whatever.. Their biggest interest would be to keep they game as good as possible for years and cheater free to keep players playing the game each month. its sad, but im willing to pay 10 dollars a month to keep a game as cheater free u can get.

[@Eroktic]

true. dev will see from month to month earnings going up or down

[@mr.lifeline5839]

Just want to add one more thing regarding the selling of accounts as you mentioned, well that will be extremely difficult because it is very unlikely for a cheater to go for multiple raids without anyone reporting him & getting banned which means selling of accounts will nearly impossible 😊

[@Ninja_ZA]

I pay to loose in the mobile version no matter how much you spend skill wins the game

[@eRasedXem]

Anyone translate the curse that started at 7:40 with him PATOOEY-ing? hahahah im dead

[@chunkymonn5177]

mf said "Lets continue" LMAO

[@GohanSama]

Honest opinion, you are better off in Europe than in China dude :D

[@Unknown-zs8ex]

Great content man! Waiting for this game it seems awesome. How do you think it would compare to Hunt the showdown?

[@fillthepill7236]

Aye. You're Croatian? I'm half Croatian half Swedish born and raised in Sweden. My dad however never thought me Croatian :(

[@sw33tialucard]

There is a jumpsuit and colorful Bruce Lee skin in the mobile that are out of place TBH, otherwise, the other skins are alright.

[@rustyc]

The free or BP skins are nice too so far in mobile. No crazy stuff besides Bruce Lee.

[@sohide8699]

​there will be Samurai sk'ns

[@bobm8193]

11:30 i was in his livestream once and he said that he did play tarkov once but he didnt enjoy it due to the fact that you have to pull the wiki every now and then just to know stuff here and there and find out where the extraction is

[@BullsMahunny]

Tencent seems to understand the market. While they do have some games that are blantantly P2W, that shit doesn't catch on in the west and they know it. So their markets are ENTIRELY convenience/cosmetic. They make it so the shop is juuuuuust tantalizing enough to spend some money here or there but nowhere near required. I been saying this for years for things like MMOs. Hire ONE person who makes exclusively vanity gear and skins and I will buy them. Give me the OPTION to spend money on things that I WANT and they will get the money.

[@Luciphell]

This is just the beginning of 'Arena's life cycle, and it's just been brought to prominence by all the streamers jumping on the bandwagon. People seem to forget Tarkov was 'relatively' cheater-free too, right up until the streamer community made it blow up. Then those that make hacks follow where there is money to be made naturally. It's only a matter of time. The bigger AB:I gets, the faster and harder it will be hit by cheaters.

[@tristangoss]

The goal is to make people play the game not rage because you spend money and lose it. It’s gonna ruin AB if p2w becomes more Paid 2 win.

[@tristangoss]

I hope it’s not pay2win when it’s fully developed, I haven’t spend anything on ABM and I just think is makes you stop working for your loot. My opinion, but it’s also the fact that no P2W always ruins game. Example- Pixel Gun 3d, it got greedy like Tarkov and ruined the game with p2w, it’s gonna make me hate the game if p2w in arena gets worse.

[@michalob21]

It's not pay to win it's pay for convenience

[@grumpychan]

Hey supreme leader @eroktic we get in-game messages if your report results in a ban of that player. I've personally received a few reports from devs in-game saying so n so player was banned for 10 years.

[@Platoonterror]

Well the only thing that will bugle you a bit it's the container it hurts going full kitted without a place to save your spare ammo but tbh I don't see ABI being without a a F2P container

[@SadNuggetMan]

The secure container subscription is just insanely fucked, it's probably the biggest turnoff for me.

[@sw33tialucard]

How so? I’m from the mobile version, been playing since season 1. You don’t have to pay for a secure container. There is a free 1x2 container you get for a day, twice every week. The secure container is just for convenience and doesn’t affect the game in any significant way.

[@AK-xj1mn]

I mean you dont need to have it, i look at it similliar as WoW i pay monthly for this feature and support further their development of the game. Afterall its a free game

[@sagitta98]

Oh boy you haven't seen their premium skin gacha roll... That's the real turn off, at least for me.

[@ABarros548]

@@sagitta98 it's a skin, dont afect the game at all right, u choose if u want to gacha roll, they need to make money some way since the game is free : D

[@xavier2094]

​@@ABarros548the problem isn't the skin, it's the way it's offered to the consumer. I love some of their skins but homie I don't want to place bets just to have a chance to win it or not for cheap or for twice or even thrice its value. Let me have a baseline price that is agreeable for them and for the consumer and let us purchase it directly with no lootbox bs.

[@giostedardez7491]

absolutely no p2w we invest in pc components

[@MasterChief117i]

Bro like can you please upload more?? Finally someone who is not afraid to tell the truth!!

[@Rxdriguezz]

Arena breakout on PC is already infested with cheaters,imma just give up on FPS games its just not worth it,i dont care if there will be a killcam or fast bans,people will still play on fucking cheats

[@notsoanonymousmemes9455]

I've not seen a single cheater so far, dude, wdym?

[@FLS656]

​@@notsoanonymousmemes9455 even on forbidden and lockdown? I doubt, this modes is cheaters hell. If you play a couple of forbidden and say that there are no cheaters them you will be fully cope

[@beanos2287]

There are cheaters in every game. Only difference is that Nikita would rather only ban cheaters at a time when the game goes on sale, so that they'll be enticed to purchase the game again, giving him more money.

[@FLS656]

​@@beanos2287 It's not about game x VS game y, this type of game is killed by cheaters. You cannot hide a fact by putting other game as a example, like wtf? This game already full of them.

[@DankTank374]

Yes bro we can tell you don't go outside.

[@michaelmcguffin5534]

I'm curious why more PC players don't just download the mobile version and play it a little for a week to see what's it really like? I would not call AB mobile pay to win in the slightest

[@moonside6701]

"I mean how do they know? Im not leaving my House." Bro u dont know China right?😂 If u arrive they know where are u and what are u doing. This is a good lets Player. I know him since around 1 Year and i have big respect for him. Im happy to see that u react to him.😁👍 I love the Game, these Events are just awesome. Ps. In my eyes TV Station is like Labs and not Armory.

[@damoblake6000]

rmt will always happen so long as they have a market or some kind of trading system. It is skills if you get kills or not but what I dont like is cheesers.

[@nightware.]

Buying gear or money also makes you get bored of the game or more addicted when they lose to F2P players and they end up buying more and more gear, supporting the devs. It's not the best thing, it could've had no microtransactions but it could've been a loot worse too.

[@tommynoble2731]

Sav cases having a timer exactly like on mobile is a dead give away to me. Why would there be a 7 day timer if they didn't plan on adding it as a subscription just like mobile.

[@tommynoble2731]

And just to add I will be getting it. Not shitting on the game just seems obvious comming from mobile

[@nightskysx]

This video did not age well

[@wedge_one]

You gotta realize that there's a lot of resistance and an anti-China campaign in the West, specially in the US. So of course NA streams will talk sh*t about chinese games all day long. ABI is a real menace to Tarkov.

[@abc121xyz]

to say that "iT iS pAy tO wIn", its like labeling candy crush pay to win cause you can buy lives haha

[@immendez6320]

Apart from that 33:13, when you make money with bugs and manipulate the market in some kinda of way, you can get a market ban, if for example you made 20m in time of a week, when you get banned, they're gonna ask you for the 20m you made with that bug/manipulation and if you don't have it on koens, then they're gonna sell all your stuff until you paid the quantity they ask for. For example a couple months ago, there was a bug with the twitch drops that made you get a bundle of the AR-30 sniper infinitely, after all the stuff happened, some players that took advantage of that bug for a lot of cash, got banned in the same day. For another way that this ban can happen is, if you played with cheaters and they get banned, all the loot that you got playing with him gets, they market ban you for that amount of koen.

[@robertbeattie3988]

So there is no cheating problem in ABI because its a chinese made game with chinese anti cheat so no one else knows how it works. Isnt it funny how there was so many chinese cheaters in Tarkov but no one else can make a good anti cheat??? Maybe if they help Tarkov with anti cheat then there will be no cheaters in Tarkov??? How ironic people complain about chinese cheaters in Tarkov then go and play a chinese made game with zero cheaters LOL

[@GunRipper]

We don't care who the cheater is. The thing that matters is this game has really less to non cheater and as a player that is what we want. Doesn't matter if Devs are Chinese, Russian or anyone

[@robertbeattie3988]

@@GunRipper But the cheats are all Chinese made 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MEMUNDOLOL]

maybe i missed it but did he mentioned P2W REVENGE RECONNECTS INTO SAME RAID AFTER DEATH 10sec after, and nading your killer while he is still healing? btw i love how he defends p2w, bcs without p2w affecting the pvp, only skins cant fund the game, and games like league of legends and pubg are never made billions selling cosmetics only... oh wait... they actually did... but no p2w is must have, listen to "unbiased" dude whos irl wealth depends on how this game would succeed

[@Deathstro]

i mostly agree with you on this game but i want you to know that most anticheats have a hardware ban enabled. its very easy to bypass. same with an ip ban. that doesnt necessarily mean abi will have more or less cheaters, its just not the reason why they have less than other games.

[@LONEWOLF_au]

i got a cheater banned on abi for 3650 days... 10 year ban bro!

[@ssdeaglez]

Dude this game is Pay 2 Lose. Even if you spend money to buy the best gear you will die eventually to a rat/sniper/leg meta chad/skilled player. This is the most idiotic "investment" you can make with your money.

[@cqwickedwake7651]

@Eroktic Mamu im jebem... Nego are you from SLO or SRB? Judging by the last name id say SRB?

[@devildogu1284]

This is pay to progress in a sense instead of grinding the game you grind real life and pay with money to get stuff cos you got a life

[@762ISLIFE]

1:20 a really good time to pause 😹

[@n0v1ce17]

ab mobile has launched way earlier in cn than worldwild, for those who think tencent earn money by selling koen directly, that is not the case in china. Firstly, koren is free to gain in game, so selling koren just save ur time for earning it, so u can skip this part and start to lose money directly.😂 Whats more, there are shit more exciting to earn koen. Boosting in this game are called 护航 in China which means: Guards. the boss who paid dollar for this service usually have lv1 mining helmet on his head and the biggest bag on his back, the other three ppl who perform the service usually have lv6 full gear and their job is to swep the whole map like forbidden armory or tv station, destory all other players, loot all valualbe shit in order to fill the boss's bag, so he can expereince extracting with over 1000k loot.😂 Far better than simply click on the store button to get koen.

[@Gameup-tk7oo]

You can’t buy shit with real money when you are like lv10

[@Kepusu]

honestly have high hopes for this game

[@dakadatt4540]

I personally wouldn’t mind if you could buy cash. I work a lot. And only have a few hours a day to play. the ability to get some cash for gear and not have to grind for hours just for a decent kit sounds fair for the common people. With that being said as long as it isn’t too expensive like 5 for 500,000 or 10 for 1,000,000 especially since the price of weapons and gear is astronomically high. Anything can happen in this game. You could get one tapped with a stock sks or blown up with a random grenade found in a box. So money in general wouldn’t really be ptw especially if you could just take their gear after they bought it.

[@notsoanonymousmemes9455]

I dunno, I find it very easy to get cash in ABI, Deke sells often expensive items for cheap so you can buy them and resell them for profit, or keep them for yourself, helps a lot with money.

[@dakadatt4540]

@@notsoanonymousmemes9455 DUDE that was so helpful. to be honest I wasn't very acquainted with the trade system. that helped me out so much. thank you

[@eillswim]

Are we just making up a new term for p2w? "True p2w" 😂 He literally says you can buy anything after lvl3.. "People in groups will kill p2w players" Is the ridiculous outtake I've heard hah

[@mrchillgreen]

@Eroktic wtf are you talking about there is no such thing as "true p2w" as soon as you can buy any kind of advantage with real money its p2w period. (it does not matter how small or big the advantage is at first) the only difference then is how much impact it has whatever you can buy and if its still kinda "acceptable" or not, but it does not change the fact that its already p2w

[@extbr3akz]

OF course all this Mobile shit works like this lmao ...

[@IPAITH]

PoE very p2w, pay 40$ to have all the stash tabs and play the game for 10 years with free content.

[@twistediron4942]

abi is the better game. but im afraid of the p2w content coming on release and later being able to buy koen for real money means that the loot u find will be not worth a lot in the long run compared to meta gear, the new tarkov recoil is better for cheap players like me also but there is hope that the game wont be as hard as p2w