Road Handlebars: How Narrow Is Too Narrow?

  Рет қаралды 38,718

BikeRadar

BikeRadar

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 188
@deanwaller1029
@deanwaller1029 2 жыл бұрын
If you listen carefully you can hear the screams of a million bike fitters screaming out in agony.
@usman5140
@usman5140 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 6’4, built more like a stretched out normal size person, I have narrow shoulders. Switching from stock 46 cm bars to 40 cm has been much more comfortable.
@treborparkes
@treborparkes 2 жыл бұрын
6’2” and I am about to do the same thing!
@usman5140
@usman5140 2 жыл бұрын
@@treborparkes let me know how it goes!
@Red-ju4mi
@Red-ju4mi 2 жыл бұрын
Im 42. I want to try 38 or even 36 now. But I figure if I can ride my tops and race on it which I know isn't standard I could get my hands pretty narrow. Racing on velodrome that is
@pumpz4
@pumpz4 2 жыл бұрын
unless you are racing and desperate for every saved watt then the bars that fit you so you are comfy on the bike are the right bars imo
@Mrich775
@Mrich775 2 жыл бұрын
In some cases it's a win win, I love my zipp aero bars, nice and comfy on the tops when needed with the wide blade, and stability when in an aero tuck with more contact!
@rominhoferrari
@rominhoferrari 2 жыл бұрын
I've changed last year from the standard 44cm (for my 54cm frame) to a 40cm bar. And it is a BIG win to every aspect! I still ride a 44cm bar in another bike, but the 40cm one is spot-on for me! I intend to try something narrower in the future, like 38 or even 36 to see how it will get.
@albr4
@albr4 2 жыл бұрын
@@rominhoferrari 44 is far too wide unless you're over 190cm tall.
@rosco0101
@rosco0101 2 жыл бұрын
@@albr4 Bar width is more properly tied to shoulder width, not height. I ride 44cm bars on two different bikes, because my shoulders are 44cm. 42cm felt a bit too narrow for me.
@albr4
@albr4 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosco0101 Exactly, and shoulder width is tied with height. Handlebar width is not entirely to do with your shoulder width though, it's overall body size, if you're a smaller person like 5"5-5"8 if you tried 44cm bars they would stick out so much further than your thighs and hips do which would be terrible for cycling performance. In general you don't want your bars to stick out. If you ride in a group you can see it much clearer, when you ride behind someone whose bars are way too wide you can see their arms and bars sticking out. You want your arms and bars to be hidden when viewed from the behind. Also the bar width/shoulder width thing sounds like a good idea in theory but actually having bars narrower than your shoulders can be a lot more comfortable and that's what most people find when they try narrow bars.
@FIGHTTHECABLE
@FIGHTTHECABLE 2 жыл бұрын
I've already stepped up the game. I only use a stem. I am now a perfect triangle on the bike.
@ilanpi
@ilanpi 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I've been using the Worx bars for the last year. Since I have 33cm drops on my track bike, it took me a long time to finally find such narrow bars for my road bike and I'm extremely pleased. My conclusions are somewhat similar to yours. The main drawback I found is that it is very difficult to rock the bike back and forth when out of the saddle on the hoods, so sprinting in that position is awkward, and sprinting is reserved for the drops. Otherwise, it's all advantages for me. One thing you didn't mention is that these are "sprint bars", i.e., they have a fairly round type drop shape, whereas all my previous narrow bars had "ergonomic" drops which didn't put me forward enough on the hooks of the drops, very frustrating. I had been looking for track bars that would fit on the road, without previous success. I got comments from a local group ride I joined, one person said that it was dangerous, as my brake levers were flared out beyond the bars when I initially placed the brake hoods 22cm apart (I put them back to normal 26cm later on), other people were too stunned to comment. For the next ride, I had pictures on my phone of other people using these bars, in case they were thinking of excluding me. However, all these local guys (Neuchatel, CH) have zero cycling culture, the ride was at about the same period as Dan Bigham's UK hour record, which I attended, the Grenchen track being only 40km from here. None of these guys would have had any clue about this, or the European track championships that were held in Grenchen shortly thereafter.
@LightW
@LightW 2 жыл бұрын
Got one, never looked back! Love it!
@dave_c2805
@dave_c2805 2 жыл бұрын
biggest advantage is you can wrap your bars with just half a roll of bar tape
@chun3082
@chun3082 5 ай бұрын
Im 5’10 and I swapped my bar from 400 to 340, just like the presenter said, it doesnt feel much different despite some extra effort required when riding off the saddle. I have no regret for this upgrade.
@pigeonpoo1823
@pigeonpoo1823 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. That you're going back to a more traditional size is all I need to know.
@eMPHA5ER
@eMPHA5ER 2 жыл бұрын
Really, really cool video. Thank you for presenting facts that spot-on...
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We love to experiment with bike setup, we're glad you found it useful.
@eMPHA5ER
@eMPHA5ER 2 жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar Well, am a mounty but the objective explanation also helps the offroaders to get the concept ;-)
@bobmanyo1
@bobmanyo1 Ай бұрын
I agree with, and am intrigued by the practicals gains to be had with narrow bars, but the ones shown in this video look simply preposterous
@rah4981
@rah4981 2 жыл бұрын
I ride 20 cm wide handlebar, it's great. Never been so fast on my roadbike before.
@996driver1
@996driver1 2 жыл бұрын
I switched to a shorter 80mm stem and 38cm bars and I am never going back. I did step down with a 40 cm bar first to be sure I was comfortable before trying the narrower bar. Different frames will be effected differently. I have been cycling for almost 40 years now. Wish I had adjusted earlier. 6' 195lbs on 54 Pinarello frame. No handling issues, just more comfort and speed.
@sasha371
@sasha371 2 жыл бұрын
I find that 38-40 is perfect for all around on the road bike. Track bike - 36. Gravel/CX - 44 and wider. and I am 191cm tall with quite wide shoulders, yet narrow bars allowing to roll shoulders better and get those aero advantages when riding at 45-55km/h on the flat (intervals of course)
@erikewald7264
@erikewald7264 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'1" and wear a 46" sport jacket, so traditionally I'd be fitted to 44cm bars (c to c). I have experimented with everything from 38 to 46. For me there is no additional comfort gain above 42. I have two go fast bikes with 40's, and two more relaxed bikes with 42's. I do feel a bit more slippery with narrow bars, and handling has a subtly quicker response. Go a bit narrower and see how it feels for you.
@sixate
@sixate 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'8" and recently put a 50cm bar with 24° flare on my gravel bike, which doubles as my road bike. I ride my mountain bike more and have 800mm bars on it. I'll never run a narrow drop bar without flare again. It's not for everyone, but for a tall guy like myself with wide shoulders a wide drop bar is a must!
@Aureas133
@Aureas133 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have absolutely no concept of a good fit.
@aim-at-me
@aim-at-me 2 жыл бұрын
Went from 440 to 380. Surprisingly, slightly more comfortable and faster. Should have done this sooner!
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 2 ай бұрын
I only used 400 on my first road bike, only £3.6k, I'm questioning if 360 or 380 when spend £8-9k on a Trek Emonda ALR build, be lighter than stock Trek Emonda SLR 9 AXS even though same groupset, I'm looking at more aero than light weight, also I hate seat mast
@michelbinet5278
@michelbinet5278 Ай бұрын
To me, the answer has to do with shoulder width..! I'm 6' 2" with narrow shoulder(44"perimeter), about to move from 44" down to 42 or 40" handlebar..!
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 Ай бұрын
If you are paying £8-9 k on an Emonda ALR, you are being conned.
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 Ай бұрын
How would the ALR aluminium frame be lighter than the SLR light carbon? 🤯
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 Ай бұрын
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 Frame £1300 To buy SRAM Red AXS HRD £1200 Bjorn saddle and seat post $600 Wheelset 55mm be estimate £1600 Wheelset 88mm be estimate £1600 Continental GP5000 25mm tyres Carbon TI rotors XD15 bearings (£200 bottom bracket plus cost of other bearings) Ceramic speed ospw I think this give you most of idea
@trykpaa
@trykpaa 2 жыл бұрын
40cm is my limit (with 50mm front wheel). Don't want it to be more sensitive to side winds and more lively when climbing.
@tomrachellesfirstdance7843
@tomrachellesfirstdance7843 2 жыл бұрын
I think they looks so silly I have to admit Vitor Campenaerts always sticks out in the peloton. Every climb must be like climbing on the tops 😂
@adrianclark3002
@adrianclark3002 2 жыл бұрын
Can you offer any comments about how the really narrow bars are with respect to crowding? Forearms occupy some of the space your knees are pumping in. Personally I love the way those narrow bars look, they are the business! Great video 👍
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Adrian, personally I didn't suffer that issue - I didn't go too low at the front end, I'm not running overly long cranks (172.5mm's on my TCR) and my knees tend to stay quite close to the top tube, so it wasn't a problem for me. But you're right that could be an issue if you have a lot of saddle to bar drop and use long cranks - you could likely solve that by switching to shorter cranks, though, but obviously the costs start mounting up as you change more things! More on optimal crank length here, if you're interested; www.bikeradar.com/advice/sizing-and-fit/what-is-the-best-crank-length-for-cycling/ Simon
@adrianclark3002
@adrianclark3002 2 жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar Thanks!
@AtibaQuildan
@AtibaQuildan 2 жыл бұрын
I run a pair of 34cm Fouriers and I love them. I have come from 38cms and I run 33s and 30s on the track.I have put a longer stem to compensate for the shorter reach from a narrower bar but I like that they are 34cm in the drops aswell as the hoods. So the rule of thumb is 2cm narrower = 5mm longer if you go narrow.
@aymankhairy3197
@aymankhairy3197 2 жыл бұрын
Are 32cm handlebar uci legal? Or do i have to switch back to 38s cuz im way more comfortable with 32s
@AtibaQuildan
@AtibaQuildan 2 жыл бұрын
@@aymankhairy3197 I have done UCI races on the track and they are definitely legal on my 33s and the rules are pretty much the same on the road. There#s nothing saying anything on a minimum bar width in the rules.
@aymankhairy3197
@aymankhairy3197 2 жыл бұрын
@@AtibaQuildan cool. Thanks i really hate 38s because i have a narrow shoulder width
@Red-ju4mi
@Red-ju4mi 2 жыл бұрын
HOW? Im thinking of trying 38. My shoulders are prob a 39-40. Do you mass start race at the velo or is this for TT events
@AtibaQuildan
@AtibaQuildan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Red-ju4miUsually a fitter will measure the two boney bits between your shoulders usally because it more consistent than measuring your shoulders outside to outside. But try some 38s out you will love them. I do the odd bunch race but I am more of track sprinter/kilo riders. So if I am doing a kilo I am swapping out to my tt bars. But both my bars are narrow on the track.
@K1989L
@K1989L 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 34 cm width bullhorn bar on my moulton. I like it alot. I can do a kind of time-trialish position on it with my elbows tucked in. I was originally more looking for the look. I think it was the only size I found available at the time. I was a bit concerned at first whether it would work or not. But it turned out fine! And I love it! Very easy to get into tight storage space. I also think it looks better as a narrow bar. I really don't like the extreme wide fad that is going on. My max even for mtb is 60cm or I will have shoulder pains.
@K1989L
@K1989L 2 жыл бұрын
I always climb seated... with the lowest gear of 46 gear inches.
@robhaddock2034
@robhaddock2034 2 жыл бұрын
I recently changed form my standard 42cm to 40cm bars and was worried about comfort over longer rides/leverage on climbs, but I've had zero problems at all. The change was barely noticeable in fact. I can easily see how a 38 or 36 would be doable...but would stick to wider if I was going up SERIOUS gradients often. One question on the super narrow bars, as it brings the centre of gravity closer to the bike, does it increase the risk of sliding out the front wheel during aggressive cornering at all?
@Red-ju4mi
@Red-ju4mi 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm theoretically yes in practice but if your skills are adapted and ability the same then no. Only due to the fact wider bars have more leverage and is less sensitive to adjustments. But user error aside I don't see how that would be a problem
@D_isco_D_ancer
@D_isco_D_ancer 2 жыл бұрын
I switched to 30 cm narrow handlebars on all my bikes due to fatigue on my wrists and believe it or not back pain. And I won't look back because I love them. BTW 4:16 I have an integrated Level 5 handlebar with my Ribble and they come in several widths and lenghts.
@AngeloCarceroni
@AngeloCarceroni 2 жыл бұрын
The ideal for my size is 420mm, but I prefer 380mm, narrower than that probably will be so uncomfy
@timdixo
@timdixo 2 жыл бұрын
I certainly favour the inturning hoods to steal a few watts,44 at drops 38 at hoods. Too narrow bars are downright scary on windy descents,fine if you’re a flat lander!
@nickobec
@nickobec 2 жыл бұрын
According to my bike fitter I should be 42cm, (184cm, 72kg) but I am far more comfortable on 38cm, even when descending on the drops or tackling gravel. Would like to try a 36 or maybe 34. I did experiment with 46cm on my commuter, now that felt weird and I had no confidence cornering.
@p0werp0pster
@p0werp0pster 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 6'2" guy and ride a 58 in most frame size which means I'm stuck with 44 stock handlebars which give me horrible neck and shoulder pain. I ride a 40 pain-free but it's a hassle procuring new bars every time I get a new bike. Oh and also--narrow is aero!
@htdtr
@htdtr 2 жыл бұрын
Is it though? How many new bikes are you buying lol
@Lore-cg2jg
@Lore-cg2jg 2 жыл бұрын
frame is too big for you
@Red-ju4mi
@Red-ju4mi 2 жыл бұрын
Damn makes me regret always buying 58 frames at tad under 6ft
@chuckyfox9284
@chuckyfox9284 Жыл бұрын
@@Lore-cg2jg That will depend on the frame.
@chuckyfox9284
@chuckyfox9284 Жыл бұрын
@@htdtr Kind of. I actually decided to build my new bike entirely custom, because I knew I'd have to swap handlebar, stem, cranks, saddle and cassette anyways. This way it was a lot cheaper, even if it was a decent amount of work.
@albr4
@albr4 2 жыл бұрын
I ride 35cm hoods with 40cm drops, enve aero bars. It's the perfect combination. Any narrower than 35cm and you won't be able to climb out of the saddle on the hoods and 35 is plenty narrow enough for a super fast position. The 40cm drops are essential for sprinting and descending. You must also take into consideration that the "aero" effect of using narrow bars is nullified as soon as you sit up since you will automatically flare your elbows out to emulate riding a wider bar so if you can't hold a horizontal back-90 degree elbow aero position then narrow bars won't help you.
@Red-ju4mi
@Red-ju4mi 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm elbows flaring outward from hands rather inwards is a better aero effect even if you sit up or not. Theoretically from my KZbin aero science degree. BUT THINK ABOUT THE WEIGHT SAVINGS. Same reason aero bars are in the middle. I realized I could just ride the tops in a narrow position
@ridemorelivemore
@ridemorelivemore 2 жыл бұрын
Bought a 36cm bar today, can't wait to try it out tomorrow. I was using a 42cm and felt a little uncomfortable. 40 is okay but wanted to try narrower
@tesseractvisuals6339
@tesseractvisuals6339 2 жыл бұрын
How's the experience
@ridemorelivemore
@ridemorelivemore 2 жыл бұрын
@@tesseractvisuals6339 little uncomfortable for sprinting but it feels great for putting out a good average speed.
@chuckyfox9284
@chuckyfox9284 Жыл бұрын
@@ridemorelivemore How tall are you? Do you still like the 36cm bars?
@dopeytripod
@dopeytripod 2 жыл бұрын
you got a grip on that subject
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! 🤣
@ben4373
@ben4373 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fortunate enough to have an aero bike for fast group rides in the flatlands where I live and a climbing bike for vacations to the mountains. I run a wider bar (44cm) on my climbing bike because I like the stability when out of the saddle and ability to open my lungs more when seated. I run a 42cm on my aero bike. I've tried a 38cm bar but found it uncomfortable and the steering too fast / unstable. I do 90min rides mid-week and 4hr rides at the weekend. Comfort / being able to hold an (aero) position is more beneficial to me.
@joneinarmattiasvisser6113
@joneinarmattiasvisser6113 Жыл бұрын
When I rode my dad's mtb with narrow handlebars for the first time it felt so twitchy. I feel like now it's fine and it feels very fast indeed. I kind of want to switch to narrow handlebars n my road bike!
@magicknight8412
@magicknight8412 2 жыл бұрын
I have wide shoulders (long history of rugby!) so a 42cm suits me nicely
@markmark2469
@markmark2469 10 ай бұрын
2 watts improvement per 10mm at 45 kmh. Seems a bit more to me but this maybe accurate. I went from 420mm to 380mm and definitely noticed a difference during a KOM attempt.
@kovar2344
@kovar2344 2 жыл бұрын
i like the presenter, amazing video
@kimwarner6050
@kimwarner6050 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently running 320mm I find them very comfortable.
@p9008814
@p9008814 2 жыл бұрын
One question, where can I find the narrow bar like that? It’s cool enough to take a shot
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kam, the bar is made by Worx - you can find more info on it here; www.bikeradar.com/features/first-look-friday/nopinz-time-trial-kit/ and worxbikes.com/product/worx-handlebars/
@TimothyTakemoto
@TimothyTakemoto 2 жыл бұрын
I wish that were cheap ones from China. There are still Rose ones left (but not for long perhaps) at the same price (20 euros plus postage). To Japan where I am it is quite expensive. There are "grevil" (gravel?) handlebars from aliexpress but they are flared wide bars from say 38cm on the tops to 51cm on the drops. There are track bars too that are narrow but they have flat tops that will probably not allow the mounting of brifters.
@raphaeltiziani7476
@raphaeltiziani7476 2 жыл бұрын
I use 38 cm roval rapide bars on my SL7. Would like to try 36 cm bars one day. I have very narrow shoulders, 37 cm indeed.
@nebnollock5198
@nebnollock5198 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect my 780mm bars aren't too aero...
@marcalvarez4890
@marcalvarez4890 2 жыл бұрын
I ride 780mm carbon bars...Answer 20/20 bars...182 grams. When you have your hands narrow, or go down on your forearms, you are as aero as these bars. Rider is 90%of the frontal area and drag....not the bars. If your body is in an aero position, your bike is aero.
2 жыл бұрын
I've recently switched to 40cm from 44cm, holy cow the difference is very noticeable!
@Ryan97beyond
@Ryan97beyond 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful stem! What brand and model, please??
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, it's a Giant Contact SLR Flux OD2 stem - you can read more about it in my Giant TCR Disc long-term review; www.bikeradar.com/reviews/bikes/road-bikes/giant-tcr-advanced-pro-2-disc-long-term-review/
@skogling
@skogling Жыл бұрын
But how does 360 mil bar work for a my Xs wife race bike? She is a 360 mm shoulder.
@paolocastellano2771
@paolocastellano2771 2 жыл бұрын
How much less peak power so you make with the lesser leverage of the narrower bars?
@richardggeorge
@richardggeorge 3 ай бұрын
50%
@billysunshine9100
@billysunshine9100 2 жыл бұрын
I'm four foot tall, love these bars
@hugobrown2516
@hugobrown2516 7 ай бұрын
i changed my 400 canyon to 380, thinking of 360. like the narrower, and i think they look good. and they are more comfortable.
@levyyy3774
@levyyy3774 2 жыл бұрын
where do buy
@will2tao
@will2tao 2 жыл бұрын
38cm is perfect for me since my shoulder width is fairly narrow
@neilgorman9325
@neilgorman9325 2 жыл бұрын
if you have a small chest /shoulders this could make sense. this would be so awkward for someone with a bigger build.
@DylanJohnsonCycling
@DylanJohnsonCycling 2 жыл бұрын
They only look silly to us because almost every bike you see is stocked with wider bars so you aren't used to seeing it. That is the case with almost every cycling innovation that changes the look of a bike. A great example of this is when 29 inch wheeled mountain bikes first came out. People thought they looked terrible. Now we look at a 26 inch wheeled bike and it just looks off. Personally, I love when riders think outside the box and push their equipment to the edge of what we consider acceptable in the pursuit of speed. It's the reason Graeme Obree is such a legend in cycling. If it makes you feel better, to non cyclists passing by in their cars we all look silly.
@kevinwhite2601
@kevinwhite2601 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. Why some are so resistant to smaller bars, what I consider to be essentially "free speed" without ever having tried smaller bars I don't know.
@treepinx7324
@treepinx7324 2 жыл бұрын
Did I miss it or is this video missing a discussion of ergonomics. Obviously the presenter has gone beyond what would be ergonomically ideal, but I recently switched from the stock 42cm bars on my bike to 38cm compact bars just because I'm trying to avoid aches and numbness on 4hr+ rides. I watched a bunch of bike fit videos, then measured my shoulder width at 39cm. Narrower bars should allow a more natural wrist and shoulder position in addition to being more aero. I also appreciated the reduced reach, and am now more comfortable staying in the drops for extended periods of time.
@brianwendy727
@brianwendy727 Жыл бұрын
Can you recommend a 38cm carbon handlebar?
@bikeradar
@bikeradar Жыл бұрын
MerlinCycles has ControlTech bars from £27. 36cm size available too - www.merlincycles.com/controltech-one-road-handlebars-130301.html
@brianwendy727
@brianwendy727 Жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar this is aluminium bar. How about carbon?
@th_js
@th_js 2 жыл бұрын
I run a 820mm handlebar.
@chrish2689
@chrish2689 2 жыл бұрын
I had two different handlebar width recommendations from two different bike fitters. One suggested 40cm and one asked me to use 34cm. I spent a fair amount of time on both of the widths and here is what I found out: 1. I have to turn my shifters inward a lot when using 40cm to make things feel right. 2. Both handlebar widths felt normal and comfortable after a couple hours of usage. 3. Narrow means more aero
@kw9000
@kw9000 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting info ChrisH. It also shows how much bike fitting is subjective.
@obiwankenoble2
@obiwankenoble2 2 жыл бұрын
What widff is the correct widff...tune in for Simon's fforts
@chrisvanbuggenum871
@chrisvanbuggenum871 2 жыл бұрын
I got 38cm bars and they feel fine. Had them a couple years and never regretted it. I'm not a huge guy though.
@piast99
@piast99 2 жыл бұрын
Simultaneously, on the dark side of the force: How wide MTB handlebars are too wide? :)
@deabreu.tattoo
@deabreu.tattoo 2 жыл бұрын
answer: yes
@misaelramos83
@misaelramos83 2 жыл бұрын
When you start clipping tree trunks
@paolocapozzi927
@paolocapozzi927 2 жыл бұрын
44cm and 16degrees flare. Comfort wins on aero any day!
@cracked229
@cracked229 7 ай бұрын
comfort wins everyday except race day Fred ;)
@paolocastellano2771
@paolocastellano2771 2 жыл бұрын
Going from 46 to 38 was a noticeable difference. Lower frontal area is king given any level of fitness....
@HMSITH
@HMSITH 2 жыл бұрын
For me narrow bars are unconfarteble to use climbing on the tops off the saddle, besides any aero gain is above 45kph, if you live in a area flat as a pankake maybe is a way to get a marginal gain, for climbing i find is rubish unless you climb on the drops all the time like pantani.
@iriszee463
@iriszee463 2 жыл бұрын
I just prefer broader handle bar to compensate with my big build and big shoulder
@yeonhocho2053
@yeonhocho2053 2 жыл бұрын
I use custom modified 30cm handlebar on my track bike haha
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for sharing.
@dopeytripod
@dopeytripod 2 жыл бұрын
I use what the bike came with & my body got use to them, LIKE 99% OF US DID
@elijahkwon422
@elijahkwon422 2 жыл бұрын
How is it custom modified?
@yeonhocho2053
@yeonhocho2053 2 жыл бұрын
@@elijahkwon422 I asked a carbon expert to modify my 36cm look track handlebar to 30cm
@elijahkwon422
@elijahkwon422 2 жыл бұрын
@@yeonhocho2053 did it cost much and was there structural damage?
@paulysci925
@paulysci925 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody go from a 44cm to a 38cm? What did you experience?
@Gjifdxvv
@Gjifdxvv Жыл бұрын
Much better for storing bikes in the corridor
@xtianeskay5166
@xtianeskay5166 2 жыл бұрын
From my experience climbing is easier with a relatively wide flat bar. And flat bars are more aero.
@tyson8254
@tyson8254 2 жыл бұрын
From my experience you're drunk
@TonyWony
@TonyWony 2 жыл бұрын
I want a narrow Handel bar so i can lane filter in the city
@michiganstate149
@michiganstate149 2 жыл бұрын
44cm Salsa Cowchipper (slightly flared). Comfort=speed to me🤷
@Likelybiking
@Likelybiking 2 жыл бұрын
My drops bars are 60cm at the hoods and 75cm ah the drops. I went the other way 🙃
@illuminatustm
@illuminatustm 2 жыл бұрын
Never go full Aero
@richcrompton6891
@richcrompton6891 2 жыл бұрын
As an ex-national swimmer, my shoulders will never be deemed aero. All bars are narrow to me!
@krbndlls
@krbndlls 2 жыл бұрын
Swimming will not change your socket to socket shoulder distance :)
@richcrompton6891
@richcrompton6891 2 жыл бұрын
@@krbndlls I must just be built like a triangle then!
@thomasabbott2277
@thomasabbott2277 2 жыл бұрын
Best bars are pro vibe aero pursuit
@SonnyDarvishzadeh
@SonnyDarvishzadeh 2 жыл бұрын
1:16 industry standard doesn't mean standard human height. if you are 180cm, then it make sense to call a 40cm narrow. That's very wide for my height.
@Music-pq8cm
@Music-pq8cm 2 жыл бұрын
Use whatever bars you want. If you win, watch everyone copy
@NewPolishScientist
@NewPolishScientist 2 жыл бұрын
Ideal handlebar for t-rex
@derp195
@derp195 Жыл бұрын
But the biggest question is where on earth can I buy this?
@11robotics
@11robotics 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not trading the ability to safely control my bike for 8W at 45 km/h. A crash will make you lose far more time than 8 extra watts. For what it's worth, I could slam my stem at least 4 cm lower for maximum STONKS, but I don't do it for the same reason (on top of also having the lower back flexibility of an aluminium aero frame).
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Simon here. I totally agree that no aero gain would be worth compromising the ability to safely control your bike, but I didn't find the 26cm handlebars to be an issue - it was less comfortable riding out of the saddle on steep climbs, but otherwise I didn't find any major problems. As I say in the video, I'm not suggesting everyone go out and buy sub-30cm handlebars, but maybe consider a 36cm or 38cm bar - it's a cheap and effective aero upgrade compared to aero wheels or a new frameset.
@The2808erik
@The2808erik 2 жыл бұрын
Why not go for a triathlon cockpit ? It's faster than dropbars. Hell even my 60cm flat bar setup will be faster because the aerodynamic profile is smaller and I can ride the same position like on hoods with bar ends. I'm not a UCI slave, I build my bike how I want.
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Bikes with tri-bars aren't appropriate for bunch riding/racing, but yes, if you're riding an event where tri-bars are allowed, then they'll likely be even faster than super-narrow drop bars. Here's a BikeRadar Builds feature on my TT bike, if that's more your cup of tea; www.bikeradar.com/features/bikeradar-builds-simons-planet-x-exocet-2-time-trial-bike/ This was more of an experiment to try and find out how narrow you could go with drop handlebars before the handling is compromised too much. Thanks for watching! Simon
@The2808erik
@The2808erik 2 жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar There is nothing mentioned about a group effort in the video and he rides alone the whole time. So I assumed we are talking about a solo effort here. Cheers.
@brahmsianer5899
@brahmsianer5899 2 жыл бұрын
Looking like a pro should end when you make riding less enjoyable and less fun!
@marshallferron
@marshallferron 2 жыл бұрын
Another advantage you left out is that narrow handlebars let you navigate between cars and pedestrians more easily when urban cycling
@kevinwhite2601
@kevinwhite2601 2 жыл бұрын
I ride 36 cm on gravel, I agree that i will never go with something wider ever again! After a ride or two acclimating, they feel incredibly stable and Ive never lacked for confidence in gnarly sections. To me, by far the biggest downside to small bars has been lack of space along the tops! With aerobars on, fitting on a light is a squeeze.
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insight! Perhaps we could see a shift to narrower bars found stock on new bikes in the coming years...
@HOllyBOni
@HOllyBOni 2 жыл бұрын
"gnarly sections" 😂
@kevinwhite2601
@kevinwhite2601 2 жыл бұрын
@@HOllyBOni You've clearly never ridden Unbound.
@kevinwhite2601
@kevinwhite2601 2 жыл бұрын
@@HOllyBOni 37th this year, on a surly crosscheck. Nothing to brag about but I'm not a scrub either.
@kevinwhite2601
@kevinwhite2601 2 жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar That would be welcomed!
@partsbinspecial1457
@partsbinspecial1457 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the point about aerodynamics undercut by the giant loops of exposed cable on display? I'm getting mixed messages.
@ingopaul67
@ingopaul67 2 жыл бұрын
Roadies go narrower, Mtbs go wider !!!
@breaddlord5934
@breaddlord5934 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer 780mm to 800mm
@spinnetti
@spinnetti 2 жыл бұрын
Bring on the narrow bars! - Well, narrower than off the shelf bikes provide anyway. Roadies seem even more conservative than Airplane people, and less reason to be so. I don't like wide bars. I make plenty of torque and wide bars slow your inputs. I cut a FOOT out of my mountain bike bars.
@AndrewBlucher
@AndrewBlucher 2 жыл бұрын
Why do English video channels show riding without gloves so much?
@roebbiej
@roebbiej 2 жыл бұрын
I want to try 32 cm or so after seeing this video
@marshallferron
@marshallferron 2 жыл бұрын
Having your hands in too close together can cause your chest muscles to restrict the expansion of your ribcage and inhibit breathing. That could cause a drop in performance that may offset any aero gains. It's just something you'd have to test. Ideal bar width is gonna vary person to person based on shoulder width. Whatever width gets your forearms parallel to each other when in the hoods is what you want. I think anyone can get used to the handling of almost any width handlebar within reason.
@alanparkinson4568
@alanparkinson4568 10 ай бұрын
Many pros are using narrow bars these days, so can only assume they either don’t cause breathing issues or if they do, they are marginal and are more than offset by the aero gains. TT bars force arms into a very narrow position, but the pros all use them too. The advent of narrow bars in the peloton has definitely raised awareness of bar width in general and that the standard bars supplied with bikes may not necessarily suit all riders.
@kyle4931
@kyle4931 2 жыл бұрын
Ride 52cm on a gravel bike haha. Narrow looks cool tho
@31.8mm
@31.8mm 2 жыл бұрын
how narrow is too narrow? if u are like us ,mere mortals, it's when we feel uncomfortable, loss of confidence, and pain.
@jonathanzappala
@jonathanzappala 2 жыл бұрын
Or you could use regular bars and put some clip on aero bars on, that covers everything but road racing.
@DAZLIN6
@DAZLIN6 2 жыл бұрын
I find narrow bars seriously uncomfortable.
@foundfoundfound1
@foundfoundfound1 2 жыл бұрын
it’s his shoulders that are too narrow. looks like mr punyverse from stoke-on-trent.
@TengkuAlam
@TengkuAlam 11 ай бұрын
would you sell the bar to me ?
@dildildil
@dildildil 2 жыл бұрын
aliexpress : so many kids picked up cycling.
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Can you get over the look of a narrow bar? Or is speed not the #1 concern? Please let us know your preferred bar width in the comments! 👇🚴💨
@insquares
@insquares 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have a problem sticking out your elbows, negating some of the benefit? Or, is this less of an issue compared with tilting-in the levers? Could you test tilting in the levers on more normal width bars gives most of the advantage? Also, did play with stem length or use a formula to get the same reach to your normal hand position on the hoods?
@K1989L
@K1989L 2 жыл бұрын
Well the drop handlebar with hoods looks a bit silly to be honest. But I love my 34cm bullhorn!
@joneinarmattiasvisser6113
@joneinarmattiasvisser6113 Жыл бұрын
I think a narrow handlebar looks better than a wider one. Idk why but wide handlebars looks goofy, unless it are flat bars
@EwanSupple
@EwanSupple 2 жыл бұрын
420 mm all day, bb!!!
@HG-jq5rh
@HG-jq5rh 2 жыл бұрын
How aero is to aero... this is just stupid
@bikeradar
@bikeradar 2 жыл бұрын
Each to their own! 🤗
@Foster_B
@Foster_B 2 жыл бұрын
Too*
@PrzemyslawSliwinski
@PrzemyslawSliwinski 2 жыл бұрын
Nope because a narrow handlebar does not only impact aerodynamics. PS I have a flat bar with a clip-on aerobar and (as a non-racer) have the best of these two worlds: a great handling control and an on-demand aero position.
@steveco1800
@steveco1800 2 жыл бұрын
Umm I'll just train harder and save the cash and a potential crash 😬
@MrBenandbriar
@MrBenandbriar 2 жыл бұрын
To summarize: Twitchy AF. Which isn't a bad thing for racing, but it's a trade off. Better spend time doing rows and flys in the gym. On the other side, I put 46cm Salsa Cowchippers on my touring bike, which flare to 50-something in the drops, and just love the freight-train stability for comfortably rolling along. Slower yes, but more like settling into an armchair than perching on the edge of a barstool.
How to Choose the Right Handlebars? (Width, Reach, & Design)
13:25
Cam Nicholls
Рет қаралды 206 М.
The Narrowest Bars In MTB? | Blake's Narrow Handlebar Challenge
22:49
Global Mountain Bike Network
Рет қаралды 773 М.
Sigma Kid Hair #funny #sigma #comedy
00:33
CRAZY GREAPA
Рет қаралды 40 МЛН
Are Wider Tyres Faster? | 26mm Vs. 30mm Tyres TESTED
15:23
BikeRadar
Рет қаралды 205 М.
Super Narrow Handlebars VS Wind Tunnel | How Fast Really Are They?
10:37
PT & Bike Fitter RESPONDS to Wide Drop Bar Trend...Are they bad for you?
27:03
Which Handlebar Width Should You Buy? | Narrow VS Wide
10:02
GCN Tech
Рет қаралды 119 М.
What’s The Best Tyre Pressure For Road Cycling?
12:12
BikeRadar
Рет қаралды 201 М.
Has Internal Cable Routing Gone Too Far?
8:00
BikeRadar
Рет қаралды 73 М.
How Much Difference Does Handlebar Width Actually Make?
9:51
GCN Tech
Рет қаралды 103 М.
Are You Riding With the Wrong Saddle Height? The Science
10:33
Dylan Johnson
Рет қаралды 354 М.
Hood Position & Handlebar Angle (Here's what to do)
9:14
Road Cycling Academy
Рет қаралды 254 М.
AN AERODYNAMIC MASTERCLASS: YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED
18:10
Chris Hall
Рет қаралды 7 М.
Competição de Low kicks #competition #chutes #pernas #kickboxing #karate
0:43
BJJ Techniques and News
Рет қаралды 16 МЛН
Paddy Pimblett vs King Green delivered! #UFC304
0:37
UFC India
Рет қаралды 3,9 МЛН