Road to GRIDLIFE: Disaster on the Dyno // K20-Swapped Ferrari gets put through the wringer.

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StanceWorks

StanceWorks

Күн бұрын

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@DECOM_EV
@DECOM_EV Ай бұрын
Props to Andrew M on the quick shutdown of the engine. No panic and probably saved some further damage.
@omg_stoppit
@omg_stoppit Ай бұрын
Mike, I'm a trial lawyer and SoCal car enthusiast and mechanic. I'm also wildly sympathetic to ppl with bad luck bc I grew up poor and I know shit happens. Don't attribute to malice what can be explained as stupidity. But dude, this is bullshit on a monumental level and the issue falls squarely on the company which built the motor. This is 4Piston's problem. If you're in the hole money because of this, you may have a claim for reliance and compensatory damages. Once is a fluke, twice is a pattern, three times is confirmation. I hate seeing people get boned by companies that refuse to acknowledge their mishaps. That's a business which is run recklessly. And if you didn't have this channel, they'd have told you to kick rocks. No pity for them.
@caboose6411
@caboose6411 Ай бұрын
Seems like they have built faulty engines frequently. Haven’t heard anything good about their engines in this comment section.
@n7narcosis
@n7narcosis Ай бұрын
💯 "Once is a problem, twice is a pattern, three times is confirmation." Life goal is to never have to get to #3
@drummerdoingstuff5020
@drummerdoingstuff5020 Ай бұрын
Life goal is to never get to #1 and if you do, make it right because, integrity…
@omg_stoppit
@omg_stoppit Ай бұрын
@@drummerdoingstuff5020 and that’s the thing: accidents happen. New parts randomly fail. Installations are done incorrectly. No human will ever be perfect. But good customer service means making it right when it goes wrong. If you can’t do right by all your customers, you don’t deserve to be in business.
@bretbauer7582
@bretbauer7582 Ай бұрын
It's funny how if you tell a guy "hey you have perfectly good parts here, but they are used and replacing them will add THOUSANDS of dollars" how many times they are not going to go for the NEW parts. Whoever's rockers and cams aren't free, and whoever owns the motor will be paying for them.
@timmurrayy
@timmurrayy Ай бұрын
Yeah. After watching boosted boys struggle with multiple 4 piston built engine failures I had my concerns. This is honestly what I expected to happen, but hoped for your sake would not. Best wishes for a speedy recovery and getting this back to where it needs to be.
@Smokkedandslammed
@Smokkedandslammed Ай бұрын
Is that where he gets his motors that always break? Kyle never has any luck either lol
@dekabwerks
@dekabwerks Ай бұрын
@@Smokkedandslammedlol a lot makes sense now
@charlwitte7075
@charlwitte7075 Ай бұрын
Felt exactly the same. Would've been better off with a used stock head.
@rekleif
@rekleif Ай бұрын
Well there probably is a reason he mostly builds his own engines now i guess?
@gthomas1421
@gthomas1421 Ай бұрын
This was the comment I was looking for. 100% agree
@Eli07K
@Eli07K Ай бұрын
I bet 4 Piston Racing wouldn't be so keen in taking responsibility if this situation would be on a regular customer without a KZbin channel with so many subscribers. Pretty sure the outcome would have been very different.
@blackmkiv
@blackmkiv Ай бұрын
Can confirm via second-hand experience
@MitchChubey
@MitchChubey Ай бұрын
Third.
@martindworak
@martindworak Ай бұрын
I would never let someone else work on something so important, attention to detail is not something you can learn or teach, you either have it, or you don’t. I’m sure the dude that started 4piston did great work, but he has dudes working for him now who you CAN NOT trust.
@MrChipBreak
@MrChipBreak Ай бұрын
i wonder how much he had to pay for the second engine
@Eli07K
@Eli07K Ай бұрын
@@MrChipBreak he shouldn't have to. That's 4 pistons fault. The first engine blew up. My question is why a company with a reputation of building high hp engines would reuse parts of an engine that clearly failed to build a new one and call it standard practice. Mike is to kind.
@coopertoprw8mu
@coopertoprw8mu Ай бұрын
It does fall on the engine builder, that’s why you didn’t make it. I’d be furious if I spent all that money and discovered they used, used parts.
Ай бұрын
That’s why 4P sent out a new engine. I can only imagine how much of a challenge keeping relationships with companies and letting your own personal frustrations bleed through must be when things go wrong. Blame doesn’t fix the problem and I’m sure being upset was a part of the emotional arch of the story. Mike had a ton of delays getting here, a few episodes back he mentioned them. But dragging companies through the mud, even the ones you spend money to purchase their goods, isn’t a good way to build a brand or a business. You learn, you grow, and you keep making cool stuff. Being mad off camera is wise if you ask me.
@webbracer5
@webbracer5 Ай бұрын
Not just used parts… but used parts from a blown motor. No amount of QA would make me comfortable running parts from a blown motor, even if they appear just fine.
@kennethporter992
@kennethporter992 Ай бұрын
I know he's trying to cover for them and talk about all they did to make up for it, but who's going to reimburse Mike for all the time he put it to ripping this engine out of the car, picking up the new one from LAX, installing it, and the dyno day that went to waste? Not to mention the stress, frustration and lost sleep that comes with these situations. That's literally thousands of dollars he's not being reimbursed for something that was 4piston's fault.
@pizzaspider
@pizzaspider Ай бұрын
does 4piston take on contracts from boeing?
@jvh22a
@jvh22a Ай бұрын
Imagine, if it wasn't a youtuber. I hope they wpuld still put out that effort. But I agree, used parts at their prices
@Wherdup
@Wherdup Ай бұрын
Mike doesn’t have to say anything bad about them. Their work speaks for itself. How about you bench test before shipping and not use parts from a failed engine on a race build. Given the very public failure of the first engine and now the second I have zero confidence in the third doing anything meaningful long term for this project.
@MumrikDK
@MumrikDK Ай бұрын
Yeah, this is what they deliver on high visibility projects. Yikes.
@bretbauer7582
@bretbauer7582 Ай бұрын
It's funny how if you tell a guy "hey you have perfectly good parts here, but they are used and replacing them will add THOUSANDS of dollars" how many times they are not going to go for the NEW parts. Whoever's rockers and cams aren't free, and whoever owns the motor will be paying for them.
@fjord-fjesta
@fjord-fjesta Ай бұрын
@@bretbauer7582The least they could do is suggest fluorescent penetrant or magnetic particle inspection for used parts. It’s relatively low cost, there are shops in the Indy area that do it at all day long, and it’d let the customer make an informed decision about what to keep or replace.
@JEDIwards
@JEDIwards Ай бұрын
I mean come on, this happened before it was even warm the first time. Clearly they put it together and shipped it with no further inspection. It's a seriously bad look for them.
@thepretendmechanic
@thepretendmechanic Ай бұрын
For real. I appreciate Mike just 'owning' it and not tossing blame around, but man...Im frustrated and Im only just watching. JEEZ
@cencio_1976
@cencio_1976 Ай бұрын
What I admire the most about Mike is the lack of self pity, and how amazingly he keeps his cool despite events that could take down anybody. Great resilience Mike.
@charlwitte7075
@charlwitte7075 Ай бұрын
You think he has hours of voice over where he loses his shit... Then they decided to go the positive route for the end product😂
@ArchimedeanEye
@ArchimedeanEye Ай бұрын
Re-using needle roller bearing assy parts in such a high stress application is a BIG no-no.
@MitchChubey
@MitchChubey Ай бұрын
Especially in a 12k dollar engine. Shit spot to save a buck.
@ArchimedeanEye
@ArchimedeanEye Ай бұрын
@@MitchChubey yeah, they cracked open an inherently simple and robust engine and made it orders of magnitude worse. Unforgivable for a lawn mower engine, let alone a pure race car!
@brianmclean3458
@brianmclean3458 Ай бұрын
Mick, I have to agree bro high horsepower 4 cylinder spinning to and pass 8K. This why they instantly replace them in LS engines to make power. I do think this is a quiet discussion you need to have with 4 piston. Speak with PSI and or Boostzboys they know how to make and break K engines.
@repingers9777
@repingers9777 29 күн бұрын
@@brianmclean3458 this making k series look bad which sucks cuz on god a stock straight outta a civic si k20 with 200k miles will do 400-500whp for a while atleast LOL i mean rip man this sucks they need to treat such an expensive engine with more respect its not just a 4cylinder its a 4cylinder making more hp perlitre than most modded cars and revving to the moon while doing it!!!!
@shepsean1
@shepsean1 Ай бұрын
Hey @stanceworks - I bought a 4piston k360 and the thing never worked. The coolant mixed with the oil no matter what we tried. We replaced the head gasket 3 times and tried 2 different tuners trying to figure it out. 4piston offered no help and told me to F myself. You said what matters is how they step up to the plate, and they were making it happen by overnighting you an engine. They told me it was my tuner's fault or my shop's fault that put it in, and they wouldnt warranty anything because my shop gave diagnosing it a shot so it wasn't their problem anymore. The difference? Our subscriber count.
@enesfazlic6017
@enesfazlic6017 Ай бұрын
The only difference here is that its a know youtuber and people saw first hand what happened to the engine and why. Sent him another engine because of that. Used parts from an old engine.
@gabedaxe477
@gabedaxe477 Ай бұрын
So basically 4p is helping because the Ferrari is famous? 😂
@vivianvaldi7871
@vivianvaldi7871 6 күн бұрын
Insane Story... But Isn't there any lifespan records anywhere ? Looks so insane. Btw just the numbers 2.4 liters (?) + 1000 HP / so OK this 4P engine cost like 5 millions dollars if u need it to run ? I mean an F1 engine is only $15 millions.
@hondahacks1014
@hondahacks1014 Ай бұрын
My 4 piston cam gears broke on my motor ruining the head. They wanted me to ship my entire motor back to them to find the fault of the cam gears snapping on the snout. Ship my entire motor across the country to warranty 200 dollar cam gears… they arent the brightest bunch.
@hondahacks1014
@hondahacks1014 Ай бұрын
Theres actually a short in my profile of when it happened on track. 😔
@ronaldavendt8731
@ronaldavendt8731 Ай бұрын
4 Piston not doing themselves any favors…..
@valensi1988
@valensi1988 Ай бұрын
4Piston does not come out in a good way from this, to be honest. It seems you forgive and forget everything too fast cause they want you to go on of course. But what about people who don't have a 250.000 subscribers youtube channel? I wouldn't want them to build my motor, ever.
@shepsean1
@shepsean1 Ай бұрын
They built my motor. I spent $13k on it. It didn't work. It's now sitting in my shop and has been replaced with a stock motor. They refused to help whatsoever and basically told me to go F myself.
@marcushammond3589
@marcushammond3589 Ай бұрын
@@shepsean1 Sad to hear
@fundamentallybroken4194
@fundamentallybroken4194 Ай бұрын
​@@shepsean1would that possibly be because you're not a KZbinr with a huge following? I'm willing to go to the bank with that.
@hooviedoovie5220
@hooviedoovie5220 Ай бұрын
Boostedboiz had issues with their engines too.
@KyleP133
@KyleP133 20 күн бұрын
Mike has a responsibility as a influential person in the industry to not go calling for heads to roll, plus he has a better chance of a positive outcome for himself if he doesn't badmouth any suppliers. He gave us all the information we need to draw our own conclusions and decide if we can realistically get the same VIP treatment Mike can get. Don't hate on Mike, it's not like he hid the failure or the history of the parts on that head. He told us what was up. It's also not like Mike hasnt earned a little industry credentials. The VIP treatment is deserved through his own hard work. But you wouldnt catch me buying anything from 4 Piston
@TomAlderman1978
@TomAlderman1978 Ай бұрын
The engine builders really dropped the ball on this one.
@driftmonkey3646
@driftmonkey3646 Ай бұрын
They were needle bearings not ball?
@TomAlderman1978
@TomAlderman1978 Ай бұрын
@@driftmonkey3646 lol.. Got me there.
@omg_stoppit
@omg_stoppit Ай бұрын
@@driftmonkey3646 💀💀💀
@Scout_Shitbox
@Scout_Shitbox Ай бұрын
@@driftmonkey3646dawg
@peterwadsworth581
@peterwadsworth581 Ай бұрын
Bet that QR oil hose decision is feeling PRETTY good.
@chuckcribbs3398
@chuckcribbs3398 Ай бұрын
I have zero faith in 4 Piston Racing. This is two failures on two different engines. $12k for an engine has an expectation of perfection. Stop making excuses for them. They need to do better. It cost you a lot of time for their two mistakes.
@fitz2589
@fitz2589 Ай бұрын
Can find a 6.2l out of a CTS-V that won’t break for less than that price. Had no idea their 4 cyl costs that much
@KiG1208
@KiG1208 Ай бұрын
Agreed… had a friend who had two engine failures from 2 brand new engines
@jasonluiz5342
@jasonluiz5342 Ай бұрын
4 Piston Racing is a joke.
@Persiantramp
@Persiantramp Ай бұрын
It's very disappointing indeed
@MitchChubey
@MitchChubey Ай бұрын
They can't even fill a customs vlaue out properly. I sent a 4b11t oil pump to them during covid to get ported. They shipped it back to Canada as a full value new pump. It was a used pump and sent down for a service. There shouldn't have been any duties on it when it arrived. I was charged 200 dollars to get MY OWN pump back. Messaged luck like wtf. Send a proper value form and I'll get canada customs to refund. He told me that there's nothing he could do cuz that's just how their digital system works. He offered a 100 bucks off my next purchase. Why purchase? I'm sending anything to I need to head games. 😂
@wrexz
@wrexz Ай бұрын
0/2 on 4 piston "built" engines.. time to find a new engine builder. Unfortunately there's a lot of people on the internet who've had bad motors from them right out of the box. It's so disappointing that this awesome build has barely any miles on it because of bad parts outside of Mikes control
@dankolicious10
@dankolicious10 Ай бұрын
When you said "I don't know what I am doing" that was real world. No manual, no TQ specifications, just common sense, experience, with no fear. That's how things get done. I applaud you sir, don't let the setbacks get you down. Keep making your dream happen.
@vortexau
@vortexau Ай бұрын
This was my takeaway. Keep pushing, keep working, keep learning. It's what the best people do.
@tylergeosano4043
@tylergeosano4043 Ай бұрын
Shame a $14 bearing is what totaled an expensive, brand new long block. I'd assume 4 Piston is changing their mentality of reusing bearings after this one. Props Mike (and team), y'all powered through the lowest of lows with this one. When y'all get the time, get some more merch up! I want more dope SW stuff
@idokwatcher2062
@idokwatcher2062 Ай бұрын
LOL no they aren't. If you're not big youtuber they will tell you to pound sand.
@dsmithwc04
@dsmithwc04 Ай бұрын
The deeper you dig into 4 piston engines (especially the expensive race engines) the worse they look. I have a Ligier JS53 EVO 2 prototype racecar. It uses a K20 motor and I’ll be sending it to Mountune when it’s time to get the new spec for P1. And I live close to 4 piston.
@Shadowboost
@Shadowboost Ай бұрын
Well, they have way more experience because of Sendy Club's car, but even he's moving on the from the K. If you're running it semi stressed, you better not push it much beyond 500 hp
@dan1906
@dan1906 Ай бұрын
4 Piston is incompetent, plain and simple. Reusing parts from a failed engine is despicable, and poor workmanship. If this situation wasn't so high profile, they wouldn't have made the extra effort, since they didn't bother to build either engine properly in the first place. I wouldn't trust them to build a lawnmower engine. I respect that you have the character to not speak ill of 4 Piston, but all the problems they created are inexcusable. What about the time, effort and missed opportunities due to all their failed engines?
@shepsean1
@shepsean1 Ай бұрын
Yep, they screwed me on a never working $13k k360. I don't have subscribers, so they didn't offer to help me at all. Overnight me an engine yeah right lol.
@bruce-n6w
@bruce-n6w Ай бұрын
About twenty-five years ago, I too, had an issue with a United Airlines. I forget now the details, but I haven't flown with them since. Credit to you Mike, for not blowing your own personal head gasket!
@MotoDJS1KRR
@MotoDJS1KRR Ай бұрын
United airlines and united cargo isn’t the same essentially. They sublease Swiss port to do the cargo
@thompsonjerry3412
@thompsonjerry3412 Ай бұрын
Two engines , no racing, when is it time to blame the builder?
@staLkerhu
@staLkerhu Ай бұрын
You mean 4piston?
@thompsonjerry3412
@thompsonjerry3412 Ай бұрын
@@staLkerhu no, 2 blown engines
@Nuschel
@Nuschel Ай бұрын
The builder, 4piston racing
@hooviedoovie5220
@hooviedoovie5220 Ай бұрын
Plus the issues BoostedBoiz had with them too? I'll never buy from 4piston.
@repingers9777
@repingers9777 29 күн бұрын
@@hooviedoovie5220 we need kyle and the boys to build an engine for him fr i mean it would be invincible with the stuff they try to pull off with them it would be chillin
@alexrossmann7672
@alexrossmann7672 Ай бұрын
That thing has been in and out of the trailer enough that it deserves a set of race ramps! The stacked wood makes me nervous.
@stanceworks
@stanceworks Ай бұрын
I ordered some this week 😂
@alexrossmann7672
@alexrossmann7672 Ай бұрын
@@stanceworks Great news! Loved this episode. Your patience and determination is inspiring. Now go get that thing on the track without a camera and enjoy it!
@joebriggs8422
@joebriggs8422 Ай бұрын
27:44 Agree 😉
@OxBlitzkriegxO
@OxBlitzkriegxO Ай бұрын
@@stanceworks i would have watched a small segment where you make some custom ones when you have time (never time. lol)
@350gtboi
@350gtboi Ай бұрын
@@stanceworkswhat sucks about race ramps is they don’t last. After a while the crack and the foam starts falling out. For what they cost it’s really a crappy product
@Garabins1
@Garabins1 Ай бұрын
Put the blame on 4 piston racing….they built the engine.
@IANHANDS
@IANHANDS Ай бұрын
Not your business nose out.
@DaneRThomas
@DaneRThomas Ай бұрын
1. What a fantastic attitude in the face of adversity! 2. Major props to you for not going off on 4Piston. That should give other potential engine sponsors the confidence to consider sponsoring your future efforts. 3. In my business, we see failure as a learning opportunity, as much of our work is experimental in nature. We also view any need for superhuman efforts as indicating that our existing processes and procedures must be revised and improved. 4. When suppliers and partners repeatedly prove less reliable than promised, learn the lesson and move on. I look forward to seeing the successful dyno tuning and shakedown runs. I hope that you eventually end up being able to run it with the diffuser as well, as it really completes the look of the car.
@michaeldyer6304
@michaeldyer6304 Ай бұрын
If you didn't have a popular U-tube channel I'm almost positive this situation would of played out much differently.Count your blessings on getting another engine that quickly because others weren't that fortunate. We'll leave it at that....
@madmax2069
@madmax2069 Ай бұрын
Exactly, there's far too many people that's on the other side where 4 piston has told to go pound sand.
@gabedaxe477
@gabedaxe477 Ай бұрын
Read the comments lol people be like 4p don’t even answer the phone 😂
@ZachRobert
@ZachRobert Ай бұрын
Easily the best video you guys have put out; Incredibly captivating, fantastic cinematography, and a riveting story. Super proud of you guys, I'm so glad you were able to get to GridLife!
@vin_tra
@vin_tra Ай бұрын
You're nuts! Nice work Mike. Not many could pull this off.
@phillevin6651
@phillevin6651 Ай бұрын
You’re a better man than I am. I’d be reaming 4piston out… and blowing a fuse.
@JimmyJamesMarquees
@JimmyJamesMarquees Ай бұрын
Mike staying professional is why this is one of the better automotive youtube channels out there. Mad respect mate. I wish I had your positive attitude.
@NSXavier997
@NSXavier997 Ай бұрын
AS a Certified ACURA Master Technician... all I gotta say is that I'm in awe as to how anyone can booger up assembly on a K-series. Thats like the simplest engine to put together. Seriously.. its concerning.
@pvs1681
@pvs1681 Ай бұрын
So it’s this guys fault then? Not the engine builder?
@NSXavier997
@NSXavier997 Ай бұрын
@@pvs1681 no?
@lapin46
@lapin46 Ай бұрын
Agree, build 2. It is like Lego. But you have to stick to the Acura service manual instructions. And no, ARP2000 bolts in 3/8” in aftermarket rods won’t last long at 9k rpm.
@BiiRO2
@BiiRO2 Ай бұрын
Good ole "Made in the USA"
@Mikey-Moto
@Mikey-Moto Ай бұрын
4Piston is garbage. This must be the 4th or 5th engine I've seen that's had issues in the last two years due to their ineptitude.
@jdubbsvt85
@jdubbsvt85 Ай бұрын
Definitely not a k series thing....4P is losing lives very quickly 😐 Glad to hear they at least overnighted another engine...
@katsuval
@katsuval Ай бұрын
overnighted huh...
@jdubbsvt85
@jdubbsvt85 Ай бұрын
@katsuval overnighted until you realize airlines suck a$$
@fitz2589
@fitz2589 Ай бұрын
“Overnight”
@CSHracer
@CSHracer Ай бұрын
Well, the overnight thing at least isn't on them, lol..
@mausball
@mausball Ай бұрын
@@CSHracer They picked the carrier...it's 100% on them.
@panagiotiselsisi7752
@panagiotiselsisi7752 24 күн бұрын
We used parts from your previously exploded engine but that's a standard practice for us. No worries! WTF? That's a reason to keep away from 4PistonRacing.
@depthsounderdave
@depthsounderdave Ай бұрын
I initially left a negative comment about K series, but you don’t deserve that. I admire your perseverance.
@michaelbrinks8089
@michaelbrinks8089 Ай бұрын
Seen videos of brand new $15,000 engines come missing piston pin clips & other huge fails by the engine builders/sellers....Inspect 3rd engine, it'll probably be bunk also.
@urmilpatel1721
@urmilpatel1721 Ай бұрын
At some point you may just want ASMotorsports to build you a K24 to boost for racing. They have to have logged the most track miles with the multitudes of K motors they've built for Gridlife cars. Andy Smedegard really knows his stuff when it comes to track and drift K-powered cars. Love that you still got the car up to LS....the drama makes for great content and art imitating life (or is it being life for a KZbinr). Not everything ends up in diamonds and rose-gold; sometimes you get lemons. I'm glad you found the sugar to make it a great glass of lemonade.
@danielhaynes1642
@danielhaynes1642 Ай бұрын
Ive had 2 4pistons engines. One of them blew due to poor machining. One had 0 oil pressure out the box. I will neverbuse 4 piston again and tend to lead my customers away from them. Edit. You got this treatment due to your huge following. They basically told me to kick rocks with both engines. Almost 30k in engines and absolute trash.
@Shiny_Dragonite
@Shiny_Dragonite Ай бұрын
Don't ever feel like a failure, Mike. You're not. You were the inspiration for me taking on my recently totaled and gone Civic project, and after a bit of prodding from a couple Aussie friends, turning my new Mazda 3 into the canceled TCR. I hope some day I can bring it to an event you're at and say hi and actually thank you for doing what you do and sharing it with us.
@4R8YnTH3CH33F
@4R8YnTH3CH33F Ай бұрын
That's really cool, are you doing the VT Racing supercharger kit, or something more crazy like an RX7/8/Miata drivetrain swap?
@Shiny_Dragonite
@Shiny_Dragonite Ай бұрын
@@4R8YnTH3CH33F I have a fourth gen turbo AWD car and that drivetrain is fantastic. I'm looking to do the version based on it. In some order, my to do list is wheels/tires, coilovers, strut tower bar, brakes, catback exhaust (trying to keep it street legal), sway bar, a tune, some chassis stiffening, and then sourcing a body kit. CorkSport has the molds from Mazda for the body kit, so I'm hoping they eventually make it available for sale. If not, I know JWIDE has made at least one that's very close. I've only had the car since July, am still recovering from the accident that totaled the Civic, and I work third shift/my shop is my driveway, so progress is gonna be very slow. It's funny that you mention the RX7 though. It's one of the cars my girlfriend wants to see me pick up as a project once we're married and have a house.
@ethanmonat
@ethanmonat Ай бұрын
Just FYI, It's "wringer", not "ringer". A wringer is/was a device that helped the clothes-drying process by squeezing cloth between two rollers.
@ReignitedAuto
@ReignitedAuto Ай бұрын
This is actually a huge pet peeve of mine, don't know why 😂
@Haulinbassracing
@Haulinbassracing Ай бұрын
The term comes from the game horseshoes not laundry equipment
@ethanmonat
@ethanmonat Ай бұрын
@@Haulinbassracing If you mean "ringer", as in, a horsehoe that hits the pin and causes it to ring, you're right that term exists but it's not used in the phrase "put through the wringer".
@Haulinbassracing
@Haulinbassracing Ай бұрын
@@ethanmonat blah yeah I spoke out of context ignorantly. Pays to know full context haha
@moverholt311
@moverholt311 Ай бұрын
This may be my favorite episode you've ever done. The brutal honesty, the success, the failure, and my favorite track in the ENTIRE world. Well done, sir. Looking forward to the next episode and GridLife next year.
@xtnuser5338
@xtnuser5338 Ай бұрын
Having a passenger seat view of a pro drifter so gracefully navigating the Cork Screw was an spectacular way to wrap up this episode of your epic Hondararri journey. Fantastic content, and fantastically put together. Thanks.
@skrinix
@skrinix Ай бұрын
you’re too nice on this one. 4piston is to blame for that failure. bordering negligence
@schafer240
@schafer240 Ай бұрын
Best part about mike is his attitude, guys a legend.
@playinstar182
@playinstar182 Ай бұрын
4 piston - 2of 2 is broken
@rolen2358
@rolen2358 Ай бұрын
So in total 4, everything is ok :\
@k20ee96
@k20ee96 Ай бұрын
I was just speaking to a guy over here in the UK who imported a 4P engine which is very very expensive with international shipping and taxes factored in. It dropped a ring straight away on the Dyno as well. I'd be absolutely devastated 😢
@Panthercholo
@Panthercholo Ай бұрын
Reusing the cam should have been a phone call to put it on you. I'm going through this exact scenario right now and the new machine shop called to ask what I wanted to do. My answer to them was, do what you'd do on your own engine. They're the pros, not me.
@Rollin8.0
@Rollin8.0 Ай бұрын
It's odd to reuse rockers from a motor that's had a catastrophic failure imho. I can't remember exactly what the old motor looked like but if the pistons punched the valves on the last motor at the very least I'd have put new rockers on those cylinders if it was my motor. The cost/benefit for a couple of hundred bucks just isn't there.
@SimQuips
@SimQuips 29 күн бұрын
everyone talking about the engine failure but man I'm just amazed you had the patience to deal with all those delays getting the new engine and were still trying to get it in the car and tuned in time
@ChewsReviews
@ChewsReviews Ай бұрын
@23:26 kudos to your editor! Also, you're a mad man! What a scramble. That's awesome that the engine builder stepped up beyond what most would do.
@SawyerMotorsports
@SawyerMotorsports Ай бұрын
Absolutely gut wrenching watching this unfold. I can’t believe you kept your composure at united after the first missed flight. You are truly patient and hustled your ass off. You left nothing on the table Mike. I smiled when I got to see the car under the trailer canopy.
@connerkuhns.
@connerkuhns. Ай бұрын
Knowing the behind the scenes of this story while it was unfolding in real time (BECOME A MEMBER OF THE DISCORD!) I kept being blown away by the setbacks, AND you motivation to keep it moving. I've been through setbacks from engine failure, and I can't say I could have handled it better than you. It was a please to meet you in person at Laguna, Daniel was so stoked to see the car, and we'll look forward to seeing you again sometime soon, and hopefully be on track as well at Grid Life next year!
@stevetheunicorn898
@stevetheunicorn898 Ай бұрын
I love the new style we got when Anthony started working with you but it gave me a tiny hit of nostalgia to see you filming by yourself again.
@nathanfisher7822
@nathanfisher7822 Ай бұрын
7:52 I’m so devastated. Mike how you keep your head up is incredible.
@idokwatcher2062
@idokwatcher2062 Ай бұрын
Money. Lots of money.
@byronphillips5423
@byronphillips5423 Ай бұрын
Mike, I admire your resilience to push through. It’s painfully obvious you wanted the car on track. It also says a lot that you fulfilled a commitment to Falken by having the car there and running. Kudos man.
@TheNudnikNation
@TheNudnikNation Ай бұрын
Dude, your commitment to the cause and your wisdom to understand when it is smart to call it, is impressive. I've been watching since the beginning and this video is another reason why I will continue to watch your videos. You inspire me to build my own dream car. Well done sir!
@reid6302
@reid6302 Ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT THIS HURT. The way you handle these situations with maturity and rationality is really commendable.
@SupercarSeany
@SupercarSeany Ай бұрын
Having Ryan in your arsenal to whip together wiring in an instant is the car guy equivalent of an infinity stone.
@NonstandardNL
@NonstandardNL 20 күн бұрын
The outro we all as community need, hats off the Mike go build what you love and enjoy the process hats off to you !
@Dutchman294
@Dutchman294 Ай бұрын
Well I'm def never buying an engine from 4piston lol
@wjeurs
@wjeurs Ай бұрын
Fourpiston sounds like a good partner, lot of effort to make stuff happen 💪🏻💪🏻. Also very nice episode, catastrophe, fix, what was needed to make the fix happen, late nights, deadlines, gotta love it.
@LuckyFruitRacing
@LuckyFruitRacing Ай бұрын
They provided him two substandard engine builds - I wouldn't say that's a good partner lol.
@TheScreamingDonkey
@TheScreamingDonkey Ай бұрын
It sucks the engine failed but it made for a hell of a story. Also the new turbosmart turbo makes it sound like a blower car and I love it.
@pierresauve8612
@pierresauve8612 Ай бұрын
I’m gonna comment on something other than the engine situation. I didn’t mind your camera man speaking on camera and getting involved like you’re having a conversation, very Jimmy Oakes and Austin of you and it felt nice 👍 keep doing it!
@DahakaCL
@DahakaCL Ай бұрын
Lesson learned: do not buy ANYTHING from 4 Piston Racing anymore, period. EDIT: "Wouldn't saw isn't anybody's fault", that's no the way to cover the issues you have faced: 4 Piston racing's fault for using used parts, not letting you know about it. United for having a shitty service. Those are to blame, trying to cover 4 Piston Racing irresponsability and lack of professionalism doesn't help anyone on the industry. Do you really think that any of your community that doesn't have a 250k KZbin channel or that has this super known project will get the same treatment?, i bet that there's a lot of more people with this kind of issues that have been fucked.
@OBSDoug
@OBSDoug Ай бұрын
I see a lot of comments about 4Piston and I can't speak personally on any of their products but I seriously appreciate your attitude through all of this. This is a testament to your incredibly hard work and all of the support of your friends and I think that speaks volumes about your character and that means a ton these days. Keep up the amazing work Mike, you've got an incredible talent and it's an honor to watch it in action via KZbin.
@TheFeldmanc
@TheFeldmanc Ай бұрын
I have been there, and it stinks that it would have been faster to drive it to LA from 4 piston. No way to have known that until everything went sideways. Amazing effort regardless. I feel like you should make a t-shirt highlighting the whole convoluted path. lol
@DPro
@DPro Ай бұрын
Thanks for showing us how to tackle the down and negative side of car building.... How you push through the bad times shows me more about you than the good... WELL DONE TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM..... Would love to meet up at some point and show you my creation... All the best Clive
@EricSchutt
@EricSchutt Ай бұрын
I commend you for continuing to be one of the absolute best storytellers in the digital automotive space. The combination of production quality audio, and video… But still keeping authentic, as it happens storyline is impressive. Overall, you didn’t change your course. Your desire to do it right feels like it’s rarely the case in online content or event appearances (referencing so many nonfunctional cars at (SEMA). I’m glad you held your course and look forward to the bigger picture story as it continues to play out.
@STUDlO305
@STUDlO305 Ай бұрын
What an absolute testament of 'if there's a will, there's a way'. You and the team and all parties involved killed it!
@RogueViirus12
@RogueViirus12 Ай бұрын
Following along with the saga in the PL while traveling in for the event was an experience, and it's great reliving it again through this video through your lens. Fantastic weekend, even if you only got a "sympathy lap" in your words for some roller shots. Still amazing that you got it there and you could definitely tell Falken was impressed after hearing the slog it took to do so. Great to finally meet you and the rest of the gang!
@Dubsesed
@Dubsesed Ай бұрын
Man, this video gave me flashbacks of putting an entire car back together in a week and driving it across the country to SoWo 6 hours after it ran for the first time. Bravo, keep your head up.
@h2odeep
@h2odeep Ай бұрын
Maybe it’s time to have Honda build you a motor
@Low760
@Low760 Ай бұрын
Mike might as well build his own motor and it would be more reliable. The guys with a 7 second k24 Celica are full billet after killing a ported k24 in the 7s
@qiwentan5318
@qiwentan5318 Ай бұрын
HPD does sell crated K20C1 found in type-R tho, not really compareble to a fully build engine but I guess it at least is gonna run.
@j.d.8593
@j.d.8593 Ай бұрын
Honda doesn't have 1000hp capable engines off the shelf, if anything, Mike would need to build his own engine.
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ Ай бұрын
@@j.d.8593He’s not aiming for 1000hp anymore. A Spoon crate engine would probably manage the 500-600hp he’s after just fine… For a similar price to the 4 pissed on stuff.
@epgonzalez1573
@epgonzalez1573 Ай бұрын
This gave me Orange County Choppers impossible deadline anxiety and I loved every minute. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻the drama probably aged you a few years but it was great entertainment.
@stevenhurley9540
@stevenhurley9540 Ай бұрын
That was a roller coaster of an episode, but good on you for keeping a level head and making it happen! You did the best you could with the time you had, be proud brotha!
@TheNeverEndingProject
@TheNeverEndingProject Ай бұрын
Man, where to start... You guys killed it with the story telling on this with everything that happend. The music, the shots, the build up, and the tension. Beautifully, beautifully executed. Make sure Anthony gets that second beer! It was a kick ass weekend and had a lot of fun seeing the 244 and hanging out with the gang! 🍻
@ChrisHale0629
@ChrisHale0629 Ай бұрын
I haven't watched all the way through but the comments are setting the stage... Edit: Halfway through the video, this is why I don't watch regular TV anymore. You're doing it better.
@robertrishel3685
@robertrishel3685 Ай бұрын
100%! How could anyone find the drivel served up on TV better? As much as I despise their censorship, KZbin rocks.
@drewski5730
@drewski5730 Ай бұрын
Parts used after a catastrophic failure need to be NDT’d , (non destructive testing), or they shouldn’t be reused. Full stop. Hairline cracks can exist that can only be picked up with x-ray.
@drbsmith318
@drbsmith318 Ай бұрын
Not the outcome any of us wanted, or that Mike deserved... but the video can only be topped by the build, content and attitude he pushes. It's learning, whatever the next step is, its dam good content too! Keep it up Mike your a legend!
@ryanunderwood4202
@ryanunderwood4202 Ай бұрын
So 2 channels I watch regularly, have had multiple failures from 4pr. Stuff doesn’t ‘just happen’ and 4pr are 100% at fault on both occasions. I know nobody watching either channel will ever consider using 4pr after this but please Mike, hold them accountable and don’t ever use them again.
@shardsofcontent4829
@shardsofcontent4829 Ай бұрын
OMG Mike … the profile of the 244GTK is absolute dynamite. What a car! You’re a beast. Well done! We completely understand you bringing it to Monterey for the fans and for your sponsors.
@laurencewheeler5885
@laurencewheeler5885 Ай бұрын
No matter what happens you have still created the most beautiful car on the planet
@GroundDwellerCam
@GroundDwellerCam Ай бұрын
Your optimism through continued adversity is truly inspiring
@RBGT3RS
@RBGT3RS Ай бұрын
You have about as much luck with k series as Hert does. It’s awesome that you got the car there and didn’t give in even with the engine failure, shipping delays, and long nights.
@SpeedFarmOfficial
@SpeedFarmOfficial Ай бұрын
This is a perfect example of keeping your cool and moving on.. bcz in Motorsport.. stuff happens 😅 and all you can do is keep moving. Love this series!
@Ranor
@Ranor Ай бұрын
Of course they'd overnight you a motor, can you imagine the pushback if they didn't? 3rd time shouldn't be the charm if you're spending $10k+. Not to mention for used parts from a blown motor. Glad to see it running.
@CesarPerezn
@CesarPerezn Ай бұрын
Running is a very optimistic term. It started, let's see if it survives the dyno or at least a lap. He definitely needs another engine builder.
@BiiRO2
@BiiRO2 Ай бұрын
Yeah and you already paid for those used parts the first time...
@skunkworks__
@skunkworks__ Ай бұрын
Wow, Mike, thank you for showing the honest struggle and grind it was to get the car ready.
@tommiller8k928
@tommiller8k928 Ай бұрын
Happy that you got the car running. But the engine shouldn't been put together using used and questionable parts. Not your fault.
@Trakknutt
@Trakknutt Ай бұрын
How positive you are at a time like this just shows the true you. I’d be losing my mind. Props to you Mike
@TheThiuser
@TheThiuser Ай бұрын
Saw the car in person and was wondering why it wasn’t being run and this explains it. Sorry for another engine bad luck.
@sparkplug964
@sparkplug964 Ай бұрын
The main thing is you made it to the event and managed to be with friends and let the fans see the car, keep on pushing and get that bad boy on track.
@M3PQuicksilver
@M3PQuicksilver Ай бұрын
4 Piston motors are overpriced trash. Motor shouldn’t fall apart that soon. Specially at ideal. You’re working with the wrong company. It’s very unfair for you to go through all this. You could have been testing the car at this point. 4 Piston has been building engines for a long time and they still can’t get it right. You build a motor to be able to take a lot more abuse. Not to fall apart on idol. Your other 4 piston motor lasted less than 24 hours of use at the track. You should talk to Jeremy from Drag Cartel or ERL or contact Charles at Skunk and tell him Art from Teampacman sent you. I’ve know Ryan for a long time from Rywire and he can vouch for me. It sucks to see all that work for nothing. You did your part. The issue is 4 Piston and nothing else. I k ow a lot about B series and K series motors. I was the first person in the US with a K series in a CRX back in 2003, when the K series Type R motor was first released.
@Bajsi7
@Bajsi7 Ай бұрын
Stop worrying and excusing for your idea, your project, your car, we're just enjoying the journey. Great work.
@randycreel1246
@randycreel1246 Ай бұрын
Your patience is amazing! While United definitely screwed you over, IMO 4Piston is the one at fault and should not be trusted for not telling you ahead of time they would reuse parts from a destroyed engine. I look forward to you having much better days ahead!!
@pieflies
@pieflies Ай бұрын
It’s also their stupidity or cheapness to reuse the bearings. They could have reused most of the parts safely but replaced the high risk, cheap parts like the bearings. Especially on a motor they know is going to be on a pretty big KZbin channel.
@nicholasvankley
@nicholasvankley 28 күн бұрын
you handled the shipment situation with great patience..props
@cronoz-sensei4259
@cronoz-sensei4259 Ай бұрын
I do not know how you managed to stay calm when you heard that 4Pistons was reusing parts from a blown motor is "standard practice for them", if it was me I would be furious, especially since I was not told and asked if I wanted them to reuse it. I really hope 4Pistons is reading the comments and learns for this. I get that it sucks for them, building race engines is really hard and I dont want to sound like an armchair engineer by criticizing them, but putting myself into a shoes of a potential customer, this sort of stuff just shouldnt fly. Especially when it blew up in their face, both figuratively and literally. That said, I absolutely understand why you dont want to pin the blame on them, because at the end of the day it wont give you back a chance to drive the GT-K at this GridLife Laguna Seca. At the end of the day a lot of stuff just went wrong, the GT-K not making it there tuned is as much of a fault of the rebuilt engine failing as much as United Airlines being unreliable garbage (not surprising but unfortunate). I am really sorry that you didnt get to drive the GT-K on track, but Im really happy that despite all of that, you still had a blast at Laguna Seca. I wish you luck with your new engine and sincerely hope no more unlucky tar ends up sticking to your shoes, cause you were figuratively stuck at the misfortune drag race start line due to that bad luck tar xD. And If someone from 4Pistons is reading this, I sincerely hope you do not make these mistakes ever again, else your reputation will never recover. I am at least happy for sending a new engine through express shipment, but I do think you at the very damn least owe a massive apology the people at StanceWorks and other clients whove had issues with your engines. That and *Please Never Ever Reuse Blown Engine Parts Without Asking Your Clients*! And in case someone from Falken is reading this, YES PLEASE DO DELIVER THE KERRARI IN THE FALKEN BIG RIG FOR NEXT EVENT!!!
@geniferteal4178
@geniferteal4178 Ай бұрын
I think this is his way of sticking to the facts while letting people decide for themselves what's right.
@xtnuser5338
@xtnuser5338 Ай бұрын
I don't know anything about anything, but based only on reading other comments, I'll go ahead and assume 4p will do it again, and again, and again. It appears to be their business model. If I was told I could get a 1000-hp K20 for $12,000...I would just assume corners were cut everywhere possible. I mean heck, a pro-built SPEC MIATA engine can cost double that or more easily.
@1320neon
@1320neon Ай бұрын
If “get out in the garage, and finish your car” was a person/episode, this is it. Very inspiring, Mike. Thanks.
@dln.sweeney
@dln.sweeney Ай бұрын
More like FORE! Piston Racing. In all seriousness that's an absolutely brutal series of events.
@rickhaiman9904
@rickhaiman9904 Ай бұрын
Ohmygosh Mike, I can imagine the anguish you felt. I'm with many of the other folks, sometimes we need to walk away from the big names if we experience failures. We used to say, word of mouth is the best form of advertisement. Now we get to say, utube is the best form of advertisement because we get to SEE for ourselves through Your experiences. I'm like all the other fans, we know you'll get it squared away, it will be as awesome as Your dream 👏👍😎
@SillentAsassin
@SillentAsassin Ай бұрын
Your emotional intelligence should be studied. I almost cried watching this, with the ups and downs you have been through with this project. You are the Navy Seal of building cars. The only easy day was yesterday. Keep it up!
@JasonChurch1992
@JasonChurch1992 Ай бұрын
Mike... You are the definition of PERSISTENCE!!! and an inspiration to others! Best wishes! Cannot wait to see you on track again soon.
@BigPatViggen
@BigPatViggen Ай бұрын
You are still kinda new to racing and it’s unmovable deadlines. It’s still exciting and a challenge and a helluva lot of fun. But you’ll soon realise that unless you have a huge crew (and even if you do!), it’s always like this. Something always blows up a few days before, something always fails that has never ever failed before. Do that for a few years, and it’s not so fun anymore. You either switch hobbies or it becomes a full-on addiction,the kind that you can only quit in huge pain. Enjoy! 🤣
@DJzSith
@DJzSith Ай бұрын
This guys knows. Also spares seem expensive until you experience the cost of not having them. If you are super serious about having a racing program, you need to get a spare engine. perhaps this is an opportunity to experiment with a slightly different build/builder. Thank you for the quality video as always, and for showing us how to deal with hardship and keep a positive attitude :)
@connermurphy8059
@connermurphy8059 Ай бұрын
Insane resilience from a man who has had so many people around him drop the ball and not take responsibility for it.
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