How to assess corners bends or curves: limit points or vanishing points

"WARNING, THIS IS NOT ENTERTAINMENT, IT'S A LESSON"
This how to assess corners or bend assessment is more for the full licence holder or more advanced rider. remember to start off slowly and work up to this technique because if you get it wrong it could be very costly in more ways than one.
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[@robax]

There's about a thousand KZbin moto vloggers who need to take note here.

[@FroztiProductions]

This guy is so good, he spawned a van for his lesson.

[@IanOcampoPodRider2016]

***** oh my days that made me howl seeing the perfect timing of it and then this comment xD

[@vicsar]

+FroztiProductions He also made the horse vanish mid-air 0_O. Amazing!

[@FroztiProductions]

HE'S A WIZARD

[@RemoteExplode]

+Víctor Sánchez Ramírez LMAO!! HAhaha ;)

[@erickpalacios8904]

FroztiProductions and a horse.

[@WheelsNotHeels]

Just an fyi...Went on a 100 mile ride this past weekend. I rode w/ two others. And I told them I would be practicing my "limit points" as taught in this video. I have to tell you...it was the best ride I've ever had. Rode the best I've ever ridden. I think my mental state helped as well. I'm not a young thing any more so I have to plan way ahead with what I eat, how my mental state is, and my physical condition before every ride. All things combined, it turned into one of those rides where you feel totally 'on'. So thank you for the great vid...keep 'em coming!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

That's awesome feedback, thanks. Isn't it an amazing feeling when a part of your riding just comes together and clicks? Big eye opener isn't it? So pleased this has helped you. Keep it up. :-D

[@petethompson1282]

I hear you, I also never rode with such analytics, its a bit exhausting but you feel like you are scanning all the information, this plus other techniques, all at once, its engaging... and actually fun.

[@judgedredd49]

Unfortunately you may have been caught in a trap. Believing your riding to be safer as you followed the limit point that you believed enabled you to take bends at the speed that you did. However if something had happened on those bends that may have caused you to brake hard could you perhaps have stopped in the distance that you saw to be clear. First remember that on a left hand bend [ usually the most dangerous and most common for problems arising ] the limit point that you are seeing contains some distance that are not on your side of the road. That could increase your vision by maybe 20 or 30 feet depending on the width of the road and also the degree of curvature. That in itself can cause you to follow a line that is actually false when it comes to being able to stop in. As an example I am talking about a limit point that you are following that may be at a distance of some 120 feet in front of you and perhaps at a speed of say 40 mph. In that case at 40 mph. your stopping distance [on a straight] would have been 120 ft or more and definitely more if you were leant over on the bend,the lean angle corresponding to the speed you were taking it at. Add to that you are already using some 30 % of grip by leaning and therefore only have some 70% of actual grip left for you to use., That includes braking power left available to you and that you should never try hard braking techniques on a bend as you would on the straight as you could very easily lose what lower grip level that you have left. In this case breaking but not using all of the 70% of grip left available to you by braking at 40 mph it will require a much longer distance of 120 ft. That means that your distance to actually brake in will be longer than the 2 second rule or of the lengths in the table of the H.C.and therefore of a greater distance to come to a stop.. The limit point sometimes only gives one the curvature of a bend but that is not the same as the full stopping distance available. Many riders assume that the limit point is the safe stopping distance and that is just not the case and perhaps one of the main reason or causation for so many riders coming to grief on bends. PS. if one is leaning at say 50 deg. assume then that you have already used up some 50% of your grip level and it follows that you only have some 50% of grip left available to use the brakes on.

[@LeonTrotsky6782]

@@judgedredd49a Doctoral thesis is NOT a requirement to ride a motorcycle🤪

[@toothpik00]

So many of your videos are just as relevant to car drivers as they are motorcyclists, this is a good example. Fantastic information, thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@iangrimshaw1]

Everyone is an expert on KZbin. I picked up an 'instructor' from the USA who had some not-too-bad vids and asked him in the comments if he'd done one on 'vanishing point' assessment of corners. He said he'd had loads of 'mentors' who'd tried to explain the process but he didn't understand it, thought it was 'irrelevant and outdated'. I was taught this over thirty years ago by Police Motorcycle Instructors and either consciously or unconsciously I apply the technique every time I ride; which is practically every day. You explained the technique extremely well and I love the sub-heading, "WARNING, THIS IS NOT....". Great vid; should be compulsory viewing on CBT training.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Thanks, I know who you're referring to and make a habit of not watching any uploads. I won't say too much on here but I think you know what I mean. Thanks for your kind comment.

[@bobbybackmarker9665]

This video will probably save lives.

[@siskygod44]

I'm not too proud to admit I've been riding like a novice since 1988!!! Thanks so much for your vids. You, and a few other excellent videographers worldwide have really opened my eyes to re-learning the "almost basics" of riding a bike. Thanks again, and keep up the good work!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Thank you. I'm still learning too, part of the fun :-)

[@Leel7077]

I don't understand the dislikes... This is very informative and a very good instructional break down of a concept that seems common sense but actually is disregarded most of the time. Thanks

[@ENJ4321]

True, maybe it's the accent...or people are stupid.

[@Leel7077]

Some people are just hating for the simplest reasons probably.

[@afterburner2869]

Von Jahleel Santos the dislikes come from people that can not grasp what he is trying to teach, stupid people. This video has helped me quite a bit and I watch it from time to time as a refresher.

[@raulhero3267]

lol even on the nicest video you can see dislikes.

[@CCJG028]

It's one thing to ride safe out of instinct/common sense, and another to ride with text book knowledge. Thanks for putting this up!

[@rodgerthedodger6243]

I find this video useful as a car driver. Keep up the good work. Cheers

[@jblifeasitis895]

Very well presented, my driving instructor in Holland, did it about the same way. He learned me to "read" the bend. I drove bends after bends, till he said "right now you got the good drive". Like all in motorcycling you need to scan your surrounding, and keep all factors in mind.

[@P1015532oni]

I thought I was the man in corners, bravely (or foolishly) going fast around strange windy roads with no proper knowledge and just relying on "feeling". It was very dumb and dangerous at times. But you, you are the man, no one's ever taught me this since i learnt to ride back in 2008. I am absolutely sure my riding will certainly improve the next time I get on the saddle thanks to this useful bit of knowledge.

[@Brancovtn65]

I misjudged a turn on the interstate on-ramp today and it scared the hell out of me. Right after that I remembered this video. Glad to be back.

[@x-sbk1643]

This is one of the best advise on the internet. More videos like this are needed.

[@themin6153]

Probably the best instructor vids on YT by far !

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

John Minihane... Thanks. ☺

[@vorten3866]

Guys a message to everyone watching this video. Most of the stuff that he says will come naturally with the more riding that you do. When you are confronted through many situations during bends and turns, you will face the dangers and register in your mind automatically on how to have a better planning. With all due respect to the instructor in the video. I rode in 34 countries over 12 years, and can now be able to plan properly by progression while minimizing danger. Watching a youtube video will only give you hints, but ride more and more and confer to standard safety precautions and slowly you will grasp all the considerations mentioned in this video.

[@vorten3866]

And thanks for a great video.

[@Korsfestelse]

vorten Let's hope this comment gets a lot of thumbs up because it's completely true! I've been riding on L plates for just under a year now and with each day of riding and gained experience on the road I feel I can better plan my actions. These videos are brilliant to watch but without getting out on your bike and putting the advice into practice you won't feel any benefit!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

vorten... Agreed, these uploads are really something to keep you on track. Thanks for the comment

[@bobbyblue1953]

This series of videos from Nottingham Road Craft are great, I am an experienced rider but they jog your memory and remind you of things now taken for granted and maybe over time have turned into bad habits. Keep them coming.

[@themin6153]

I have seen many a ' instructional ' video on KZbin and none explain and show safe driving in it's simplest form as this gent , from his simple to understand language to the roads he chooses to drive on you could not get better instruction.Beats straight road driving vid's and car park tutorials hands down . Well done Roadcraft !!!!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

John Minihane.... Thanks for the great feedback buddy. ☺

[@deannicholas7673]

Great video mate- I now live in SC USA- my 15 year old is about to take her driving test and we'd spoken of limit points so this is priceless !

[@mwkoskamp1]

I watch this every now and then. Sometimes i forget while driving. This is very useful information. Everyone should plan a trip every now and then to train this. And of course, don't forget to look at other traffic while you are doing this...

[@tlb4409]

Just passed my A licence a couple of days ago in France, your videos helped me a lot, thanks.

[@seankinvarra1123]

One of the best videos Iv seen on road safet. Vast majority of drivers don't know how to approach a bend

[@SoopaBee]

I absolutely love watching this series. Great reminders even if we've been on a motorcycle for a while. Well done man!

[@boomshewaddywaddy]

As someone in his thirties who has absolutely zero experience on a bike and is only now starting the very first steps to getting a full bike license, really appreciate the videos you make. Very grateful 👍🏻

[@speedfinder1]

Thank you for posting this. I learned this 20 years ago on a Standard Car Course. If nothing else has stuck in my poor memory, this has. It is probably the MOST valuable lesson I have ever learned with regard to staying alive on a motorcycle.

[@kuriengeorge2971]

I've been following your vlogs for nearly a year now and I have to say you know your stuff. Cheers

[@vivekzion]

Your point of the double apex with a left hand bend is spot on. Quite often riders get complacent once they go around the first bend.

[@mollom.64]

Well done ! That's one of the best videos you can get on youtube for understanding cornering on a motorcycle ! Thank you !

[@jturquette]

This is by FAR the best video I have encountered on for corner assessment. Thank you for posting for us.

[@stevenconnal6875]

hi, im currently taking and advanced driving just now in scotland and failed my test for going to slow on bends, and not making enough progress, this video is extremely helpful for me although i'm doing it in a car it still helps me gain more understanding thanks for posting

[@jay6400]

Great Video, I've been riding and driving for years and have never heard of limit or vanishing points, I've leant something new today from watching this video.

[@txrcnoob]

Im not a rider yet but this video made a ton of sense to me. Ive been watching a ton of vids to try and get as much knowledge as possible. thanks.

[@AddyAdderson]

Greetings from the USA. Thank you for this excellent lesson. I wish my friend had seen it last weekend, before drove his HD off the road at Yosemite this past week. He was following more aggressive riders in his group and apparently got too tired to negotiate they constantly changing limit points.

[@CalonDdraig]

Russ, I've been riding for 9 years and videos like this are an eye opener. While I know about position and visibility, these techniques should help me ride much smoother - especially in adverse conditions (wet/loose chippings/gravel). If any advertisement could show why advanced training is needed, it's this video! Thanks for taking the time to explain it to us!

[@ozpilotgirl]

I'm a semi-confident learner rider, with only 2,600kms under my leathers, and I do ride to my own personal limits, but this video totally makes sense to me. I'm definitely going to employ these tactics. Thanks so much. Really informative You may have just saved me from making a bad mistake!!

[@spkuse]

As always, great video and learning tips from a true professional. Thank you for helping the rest of us see what many of us "think" we see, but do not!

[@Bazza47]

Good video explaining the limit point concept-the additional tip regarding the possibility of a vehicle being on your side of the road because of the van waiting to emerge when you approached the LH bend was very useful.Thanks

[@danieldesalvo7739]

I am an older (65) motorcyclist. I have been riding 'forever' so most MC instruction is kind of bland. But, finding this was great for me. I am always learning, and your videos are excellent.

[@Tellemore]

That goes for me also. I've been well trained and I've ridden for many years but I always find this sort of instruction useful, and this is top quality instruction. When you think you know all there is you get lazy and make errors; that can be deadly.

[@samhubball149]

I'm glad you are teaching this because corners are places where most riders or drivers come a cropper. My dad taught me this Vanishing Point technique when I was about 6 or 7 (he was an advanced driver for the fire service), its something I've always been able to consider since then and makes me a better driver/rider IMO. Another good vid and well explained

[@mrmrdean1]

same as, our father got us kids going on farmland as soon as we could reach pedal/controls,ive done same with my kids. accidents can happen to anyone regardless but experience helps to narrow the chances. great upload.

[@MrCorbett26]

This is brilliant Russ. The first few seconds had me in stitches, as my Fazer is a right little bone shaker sometimes. Natural, informative presentation. No waffle, no frills just a practical demonstration which is really easy to understand. Great stuff & it is free. Thanks for your time, it is greatly appreciated.

[@Itadakiimadesu]

I started subscribing and watching your videos months before I started my Honda Motorcycle Safety Classes for Manual transmission and I have to say even after graduating from the class and getting my bike, I'm still learning new things from you and am very impressed! Keep more posted! :)

[@Roblawlor90]

the amount of knowledge I pick up from your videos is insane. ive known vanishing points and look for them but never actually knew their significance or how to use them. perfectly explained. you are a credit to motorcyclists. keep the lessons coming :)

[@AndyFrybo]

Just back in the seat after 30 years with a Kawasaki ZZR600 and finding your videos useful. Not got the confidence on corners that i had as a teenager, need to trust the bike will hold the road and need to work on my approach and set up for the cornering, Had a buddy tail me last night to feedback on my road positioning but certainly taking on your points from the video, thank you for posting,

[@richardthorpe3059]

I've been teaching this for years...it works beautifully and the best bit about it is that you train yourself to look further ahead without even considering it

[@kinhelfa]

Very useful for me. A former 250 GSX rider in the early 80s and v.occasional 250LC & kettle rider in 15years ago, I now own a 2004 R6 and will be getting back to basics on familiar Cornish roads in December. Your limit point tips brought it all back to me and I shall be reviewing this and your other videos before hitting the asphalt/tarmacadam...not literally though.

[@allbunsglazing]

Great video - I've subscribed. You give straight talk, while it seems most of the internet is giving smack talk, pretending to give advice.

[@darrylevert2773]

I'm a new rider and all your less-than-obvious hints are the most helpful to me. These are the things I don't yet know to know. Thanks.

[@gpzed9822]

Great advice, I am going to look at all your videos, I have just re-started my motorcycling and started riding as I drive! A friend has been advising me of my road positioning and I am really trying to apply this.

[@carlosl-f2433]

Great vid as always ...every single one of your vids I have watched I have learnt from...and up here where the winter is hard near the arctic circle I can also live vicariously through your vids dreaming of the summer roads.

[@logs123456789]

You post some really helpful videos! As a rider returning after a few years who was never taught the terms for things but rather how to do what had to be done, you do a very good job at defining terms and explain what they mean.

[@ylism]

Glad to see videos like this, we all call learn to be better, and smoother riders, that helps in the end to makes us safer. Way too many people die, or get hurt, for no good reason. Thanks. yl

[@paulwareing8706]

Some good advice there Russ, I always try and look at the limit point but inevitably find myself looking at the road directly in front of me looking for small stones etc that can cause me problems, always like watching your vids. gives me plenty of ideas, thanks.

[@LearnBushcraft]

Great video, really good explanation. Years ago I did my Police driver training and we spent literally weeks in the car, 8 hours a day in a team of three with an instructor fast road driving. We had to chase the limit point then and it was pretty hairy at times, but it was a calculated risk which was needed as fast response is a valuable tool for an emergency service. These days I would never chase the limit point, but I still make use of my knowledge of it...! Thanks again, was a good reminder!

[@rantingsmith]

Hi and thank you for that, I know I asked about some of the points you make in comments before, so thank you again for such a clear and concise video. Looking forward to the next one! You keep them coming and I'll keep watching!

[@65crystaltips]

As usual, very well explained Russ! makes more sense seeing it in real life than trying to read about it. cheers!

[@kevinlong6482]

Excellent mate, thanks, as a new rider, passed last year, there is always something more to learn and I have found your stuff informative, and easy to understand. Thanks for taking the time to do it all.

[@nigelsansom2407]

Thank you! I am an avid fan. Although there is a heap of stuff available on Limit Point, this really is one of the better explanations. Great stuff!

[@markajones83]

Brill. Been watching your videos for a while now taking in pointers as I may be doing my CBT end of the month. Keep the coming the are priceless

[@hamzarehaimy87]

i will be 100% honest... your vids are THE best on youtube! i THANK YOU

[@DaRush-The_Soviet_Gamer]

Passed my mod 1 today in part thanks to your videos.

[@DerekTJ]

You have a way of explaining things with crystal clarity that give me so many hallelujah moments. I'm always trying to relate the learning of motorcycling to my car experience, but they don't relate all that well.

[@gavinbourke8372]

Nice to see a tutorial where driving on the left is the norm. Good job with the video - very helpful . And the roads in Australia are abysmal in regional areas too!

[@tomar3]

Really appreciate the video. Been feeling not so confident lately about whats right when cornering and how to judge speed etc and this videos helped. Cheers

[@KernowPestControl]

Brilliant stuff, I did my IAM a few years ago and it made a huge difference to my riding and I can't recommend it enough, but watching this today has given me a good reminder of what I should be doing when I get my bike back on the road again soon 👍

[@robsgsxr6]

Thanks for the video's. I'm a returning rider and they have inspired me to start training for my IAM. Keep up the good work!

[@davidandthecrutch]

I always love your videos! You crystallize in my mind what happens sub-consciously, giving me a greater understanding of what I'm actually thinking. These are some of the best instructional vids I've come across. I like when you show people's fails, too, as that helps us all not make the same mistakes. Cheers from the U.S., and keep up the good work!

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

This is a very important video and excellent instruction. I had a ride today on unfamiliar mountain terrain. I used your techniques and it makes a massive difference in awareness of what's coming and properly positioning yourself and having correct speed even when you don't know the road. Thanks for making this.

[@mistermattman1159]

I'm just training in Christchurch, New Zealand at a place called Mainland Motorcycle School & your tips are amazing from cornering & your smooth gear changes, I've had trouble with the gears as I keep turning the throttle right off not realizing that it's just a flick. Thanks heaps for your videos :)

[@GoneButNot4gotn]

Great instructional video Russ. I like these types of videos as I believe that a bikers learning does not end when you pass your test... It is just the first stepping stone to a long learning curve that all bikers should acknowledge and learn to be a safer/better rider.

[@MadMonk_]

Cheers, I've watched a lot of videos on the vanishing point, and that was the best explanation I have heard, and has taught me a lot.... now time to put it to practice

[@lestelie4410]

Thank you from an Aussie "mid-life crisis" rider for a very clear and informative lesson. Corners worry me because I can't go as fast through them as other more experienced riders. After seeing this lesson, I think those riders are relying on luck a bit too much.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Yes, they may be quick but there's a physical safety limit on public roads. Well done for realising it. Be safe. ☺

[@AIHurrell]

This is actually a really good demonstration and example. Whilst I don't ride (am planning too soon!) I still found it very applicable to driving and to me as it's something Ive struggled with confidence wise - especially given I had my lessons and test in a very short space of time so I'm lacking experience.

[@HPaul-kg1co]

A few years back I was travelling through parts of s. England. Fun experience. But I was surprised that at some of the tighter rural corners / bends that those high roadside bushes were not cut back or removed. As a tourist from Canada I certainly took my time but I got several scares from locals who were familiar with the roads and didn't slow down. Truly a great experience but a lesson in staying alert at all times.

[@Divedeepb4usleep]

This is probably the best advice i have seen from the videos i have seen so far

[@IstanbulRider]

Fantastic video, with a heap of really good advice. This is a really useful principle to follow and certainly it helps a great deal. Thanks for sharing.

[@CJW-Media]

Brilliant Russ, I've been executing those type of techniques for years, and only because guys like yourself take the time to post this type of video. So it's very true what you say about helping riders avoid costly mistakes, I'm living proof! I often just watch your videos and see if I'm doing everything properly, great for comparison and a brilliant learning tool. Many thanks mate.

[@arrowbubbles]

I am going out to practise this. Thank you, sir. You are the best instructor in the world.

[@ChrisCopeful]

I always find your videos so helpful. I am originally from the US but fully licensed in the UK. I sometimes just get the fear when taking corners (we don't have hedgerows in the States and despite living here 7 years I still can't get used to the limited view that creates). This video gives me something to work on. Thanks.

[@R1doorbar]

Great video. This is one of the best skills to have to ride quick but safely. I noticed thought how bad the roads are, especially on some of those bends where the shell grips has worn away.

[@ravenshield56]

Thanks a lot for this mate, came off riund a corner into a coach in the other lane after a month if riding, got the bike back but very nervous about those bends! This helped alot cheers

[@mrflibble220]

Wonderful. Some of what you mentioned are things I do anyway as a matter of course (not always, and definitely not perfectly!), but it's really useful to hear an explanation of the theory behind it. Thanks Russ!

[@sheerif100]

This video is a 10 , you right practicing on the road you know already could be Dangerous , due to over confidence , keep up Russ , no worry about the jerks take it as if it's a parts of road or weather conditions . Many thanks

[@SamBurningBarbWire]

Most appropriately timed van ever. Good stuff.

[@Miata822]

Glad to see a good instructional video again. I know some people that need to see this. thanks for posting.

[@craigdewar6301]

Very informative and very well explained, I have already learned how to read corners pretty well while driving cars and trucks and I have recently passed my motorbike test and have been struggling to adapt my corner reading skills to two wheels to be as efficient as I am in a car or truck. Your lesson has given me information to use when reading corners for all modes of transport, great video

[@svmik]

All those bends are the reason why the roads in UK are such fun to ride - thank God they are not like the ones in US! Nice video!

[@KoolEmpty1979]

Glad to see a new video from you, another another good one at that. Keep'em coming.

[@LysanderLH]

I have to say that commenting from the perspective of having taken IAM and RoADAR tests, that I find the correct use of reasoning and decision making as being clearly demonstrated in this video to confirm every suspicion I had that my observers were interpreting my decisions wrongly, based on their dogmatic training which does not allow for traveling below a speed limit and driving as cautiously as the guy in this video was riding. Bikers seem to have a totally different mindset when it comes to teaching advanced riding and even though i'm a driver, I seriously appreciate it.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

That's great feedback, thank you. I found an assortment of bike instructors to have the "qualities" you just described too. Unfortunately, attaining pieces of paper after jumping through self appointed hoops doesn't necessarily make a good observer. There are, of course, some pretty decent and helpful ones out there too. :-)

[@hellfire1209]

Very helpfull and informative.... I'm just booking my mod 1 as we speek and do a lot of country road rides with my instructor due to the location we live.

[@bhirada]

Love the way you explain, very clear. I'm a beginner with Triumph Bonneville. Will keep learning and practise. Thank you for the lesson ^^

[@Bowlin01]

As always, a very good video with clear explanation. Very good point about 'chasing limit points' I know I've been guilty of this in the past without realising it!

[@keithparker4157]

just found your motovlog, super impressed, liked and subscribed to your channel. have share it with those few that i ride with and that they share your vid as well. i just turned 52, was afraid for 35 years, finally said what the hell, you only go around once and there may not be much time left, lets get a motorcycle. so started riding about a month ago. i have viewed many vlogs. your videos has been very helpful and may have added more time to ride to this grumpy old life. thank you and keep it.. cheers

[@pavelmullo244]

Thanks man for very useful hints in brief informative format. I guess people are more educated about the rules and traffic in UK than in some other countries but the situation where there was a truck and at least 3 cars behind you felt quite free to add throttle, but in many situations this might be dangerous because some of these cars might start overtaking the slower vehicle in front of them and you might get the car in front of you without having any space to escape. At least with my driving experience in Russia, Baltics, East and South Europe people overtake dangerously and it is important to be aware of especially on the bike. Thanks and have safe rides!

[@timorgano]

I wish my tutor had told me about this when I was learning. I never completed it as I crashed which knocked my confidence. If I wasn't so far south I'd probably come up to you when I get back on (found you through the k1200s video, love that bike, and it's on my "tour" list). While this works for riders, this also can apply to car drivers. How to take a corner applies no matter what you're driving/riding.

[@dannymacarthur13]

Been biking for 30+ years, passed IAM 15 years ago. Very useful and well explained video. Looking forward to viewing your other videos. Now think a refresher course is long overdue! Regards. Mac

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Thanks. Hope you like the others too

[@NSD2327]

Excellent video, and one that EVERY new rider should watch. Very well done.

[@code3kc]

This is great. Always enjoy your instructional videos. This is definitely one of your videos I'll be rewatching and putting into practice! Thanks, and cheers from the States

[@bagpopuk]

Great video. Some mates and I used to ride together. On one particular run they left me. We regrouped and they said that once I knew the road I'd be able to keep up. I explained that I already knew the road but the speed through the bends was outside my comfort zone. We're still mates but don't ride together very often. I do worry about them because they take bends on the assumption that it will ALWAYS be clear, and leave themselves absolutely no room to pull up or change their line. Scary.

[@upaul007]

Last night i watched the clip and today tried to apply it. The instructions are very simple and easy to follow. I had a great ride through the bends following the instructions. Thanks a lot.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Pleased to be of help. Thanks for the feedback.

[@iainstead4752]

Always good advice, watch and learn folks Russ really knows his stuff. Thanks