Riding tips: General positioning and common mistakes.

There's quite a bit more I could have said here but tried to keep it down to 15 minutes by outlining most of it. Feel free to research this in the Police rider's manual, "Roadcraft" and ALWAYS question what you're taught whilst training as some people pass on their opinions as fact.
About my comment at 6:40 .... I was fully aware of what was happening around me as I'd used my mirrors regularly leading up to that point. All I meant was I did a lifesaver for lifesaver's sake out of habit whilst already knowing what was there. Unnecessary at that particular time. Those shoulder checks are still important if you aren't sure what's in your blind spot.
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[@Kid574]

Quoting someone else in the comments: "Good solid, sensible, technical clip, delivered with a pleasant manner, wish you success" Awesome tips and videos in your channel man... you earned a sub :) Been riding almost 8 years now and still learned a few things!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Thanks for your feedback and welcome to the channel. ☺

[@raygun4468]

I don't envy you at all. I ride in position 1 and 3 at all times ... our roads are not built by shitty local councils that opt for the lowest tender bid. And thus they do not fall apart (unless you live in Mumbai). Then you have the latest speeding penalties that just came into effect ... MAX 2,500 sheets and 9 points !?!?!? I have never been stopped for speeding here (the cops don't even have speed guns) ... in fact I have *NEVER* stopped for the cops period. There is a reg-plate on my bike but no-one has ever come to my house after me failing to stop. Driving / riding in England has become a fucking pain in the arse! If it is not pissing down or freezing cold ... it is getting dark at 16.30. And on top of that (which has been there forever) you have SPECS cams on the motorway, pigs cars with ANPR etc ... I know people who have sold their ltr class bike because they can't afford to lose their licence. *RIP* having fun in England on the roads!

[@davidbassiri8066]

Ray Gun that's what track days are for

[@davidbassiri8066]

I imagine I don't even have my bike license yet so what do I know

[@raygun4468]

Do you like in the UK?

[@banditBrian]

being riding 8 months as a learner now and still come back to watch these vids, thx RCN

[@michaelwilkinson9159]

I'm an IAM Observer - I'll be recommending this video to my associates, I like your style!

[@powerboon2k]

I dont even ride a motorcycle and I loved this.

[@caitlinwest272]

Hi from 4 years in the future, lmao same I’m 14 so can’t lol, do you ride now?

[@dorstefan]

Yet.

[@Flyingjaffacake]

Videos like this are what makes youtube a truly useful, interesting and informative tool in peoples lives, whatever their hobby. Thanks for producing such high quality videos for us fellow riders!

[@latindane]

I am one of those you will often see "weaving around" manhole covers. It is simply an easy prompt to practice a "quick flick" (along the lines of the "hazard avoidance" exercise during a license test); it is not because of fear of something going wrong if I ride over them.

[@reerbaadia1896]

But did you check your mirrors before the flick Everytimne. If not you're risking your life being unpredictable on the road.

[@drencrum]

You could learn in your neighborhood.

[@Nathan-kw2hs]

Manhole covers in a corner are the worst though. Several times has the back wheel of my bicycle gone out from under me on a cold, wet day Now i avoid them when possible

[@dihskursiv]

I have many times tried to explain to people why I think the center of the road (sump line) is not the hazardous line many think. It is usually slightly higher than the tire lines, because of road wear and "crown" built into the road during construction, thus oil and water migrate to the tire lines leaving the sump line clean and less water covered. Additionally, your comment about vehicles being better engineered thus leaking less, is spot on.

[@dardobartoli]

This is probably the best single advanced style instructional video on the web. I watched this when I first got back riding last year after 20 year absence. 15000 miles and 12 IAM lessons later and just about IAM test ready and I am confident that this video covers just about everything you need to ride safely and courteously. It seems to me that some of the Advanced riders I have met (including a well respected examiner) believe that they know when it is acceptable to break the laws like speeding in Nationals as they believe they have the necessary skills to do so. I would love to know your view on overtaking when there is possibility of the need to pull in between vehicles that are already too close to each other. Wish I lived nearer Nottingham as I still have much to learn. Thank you for sharing.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Thanks for the kind words. Regarding the overtake, making a gap that isn't there between cars could be viewed as bullying or relying on other motorists for your safety. Sometimes in really long queues of traffic the only other option is to wait. There's the added danger with so many cars in a line of one car suddenly doing a Lewis Hamilton manoeuvre into your path whilst you're already in mid overtake.

[@dardobartoli]

@@RoadcraftNottingham My thoughts too. Here's my issue, my IAM observer on the few occasions he leads, gets too close to drivers in my view and though he may know there is possibility of an overtake coming up, it is still intimidating for drivers. Then on what he said was an exemplary overtake of a line of cars at 50mph on a National Speed limit, because I wouldn't overtake, he shot past me and then had to pull in between 2 cars that were much closer than they should be at that given speed. He then continued the overtake when oncoming traffic had cleared. My observer and I have had to agree to disagree on both of these points and approaches. Apart from that having an IAM trained Observer is great but I do think some think that their training means they think they can bend the rules ...especially the examiner I came across last week - bragging about exceeding national speed limits when they can do so safely because of their training and even worse, when he was a Police instructor, bragging about the number of Speeding Tickets that they got dismissed due to their position. Keep up the great work and thank you for sharing (even the 'wobblecam' ones ;-) ).

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

@@dardobartoli this is the problem I've had with a lot of observers over the years, they're part time volunteers and aren't always that good but every now and then you get an excellent one. As with ex police.... Sometimes they've trouble letting go of the fact they used to be able to have almost consequence free motoring. In modern traffic and lower speed limits there's less chance to overtake legally/safely. If you don't agree with a particular observer, look for one that you do agree with (or come up for a couple of hours training with me, someone came down from Aberdeen and loved it) Sounds like your inbuilt safety protocols are working fine.

[@dardobartoli]

@@RoadcraftNottingham May just have to take you up on that offer. Perhaps tie it in with my son who wants to get started (so a couple of hours introductory session perhaps). Thanks

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

@@dardobartoli that can be arranged. Call 01158370240 when you're ready and leave a message with Richard as I'm off atm and I'll get back to you.

[@martins8914]

Really good video, I belong to a ROSPA advanced group in Essex. We split the road in to 7 positions. I like your cool calm approach to riding. Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to make these videos.

[@clairebannister4749]

Very good advice thanks. Great to hear someone talking of the respect for other road users and helping to keep them safe too and make their journey less stressful, by your driving/riding.Excellent.

[@judgedredd49]

It's interesting to hear the law laid out about not going over the solid white line when presumably overtaking,not even by a mere one inch but whilst you say that the speed limits must be obeyed your personal view is that its ok doing 70 mph in a 60 limit when overtaking as your belief is that that is reasonable. That's a bit it of a double standard if ever I heard one. and tantamount to enabling others to do the same. That's a bit like reminding riders that speeds over the limit are not to be tolerated but its ok whilst overtaking????? as going faster means that you spend less time on the wrong side of the road. Ergo by your argument its safer. Whatever happened to being unable or unwilling to commit to an overtakes as it would necessitate speeds in excess of the legal limit therefore give consideration to falling back, giving space and staying safe. Live to overtake another day cos I am sure you know the stats and that unnecessary and/or inappropriate overtakes are responsible for a lot of deaths and injuries on our country roads.

[@marklogan1944]

Excellent lesson. As a returning, middle aged rider I'm "refreshing" my skills as I get more comfortable and more practised back on the bike. Reassuring to know that my instructors from Bike Rite gave me sound basics which have stuck with me all these years. Loving your material.

[@kitcarr4668]

I really do very much appreciate these videos ... I returned to motorcycles after an almost 30 year brake and, though I've taken pro lessons here and 'do as I'm told' during those I find that when riding alone it's YOUR voice I'm hearing ! Specific things that have helped include - Position two on the road - 'It's MY lane' - Just 'riding through' minor hazards like 'ordinary' manholes and painted markings on a dry surface - The 'riding in wind and rain' episodes - Not being obsessed with being right out on the white line to gain that tiny amount of extra vision Probably could list a dozen more ... The Biggest Benefit for myself - feeling more relaxed as a result of 'agreeing' with yourself regards the position on the road that I'm adopting So, many thanks again from NZ !

[@rontheretiredone]

This is the best positioning video on the web, and I speak from the experience of over 40 years of motorcycling. Well worth watching for even advanced bikers. Well done and thanks for uploading. Ron

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

rontheretiredone Thanks Ron. :-)

[@CaptainCrankyMotovlogger]

Excellent, clear advice based on common sense and a lot of experience. I can't wait to watch this again with Wifey later. I got a lot from this, including realising some bad habits I've picked up - thanks Russ, very valuable!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Some of what I say isn't from the good book which will get me some dislikes from the pedant brigade but keeping an open mind and questioning everything is, in my opinion, a healthy thing to do. Thanks for your comment

[@santiagoblancoandres9796]

I wish Politian could "take control" of our business the way RoadcraftNottingham does. For doing so they will need Passion. Staggering lecture! congratulations

[@pjeball]

Great video Russ, and good to see you back and posting lessons/tips. Having passed my test last October (and owning a 125 for some time before that) I have spent a lot of time watching your stuff and feel it has helped me be a better rider.

[@nigelsansom2407]

Thanks for this. Really great video, and so much of it has resonated with me. I have been with an IAM observer several times now, which has certainly improved my riding. However, when on an A-road recently he did a demonstration of what he meant by 'making progress'. I was horrified!! He closed right up on the rear end of cars, buzzed around them for several bends looking for opportunities, and then eventually executed the overtake. Of course he then pulled over so they could overtake him and I could catch up (they must have thought he was nuts!!). I know my extended following position is often too far off, and I miss more opportunities than I take, but I absolutely refuse to harass other road users. I appreciate the section on this at the end of your video, which has given me confidence to stand up for myself a bit more on the observed rides. If I'm expected to make progress like my observer does, it's going to turn my riding into a stressful and less enjoyable activity. I actually like being respectful of other road users, and feel it's important to demonstrate a safe and respectful ride so they realise we're not all mad lunatics! Glad you're back by the way. I've been hoping you would start publishing videos again. Best regards, Nige

[@MrWhothefoxthat]

i notice you didn't get a reply, TUT TUT, you speaking your mind about the I.A.M. i quit agree, a dignified form of dangerous riding, i myself am being pushed to the limits on B roads, flying through at national speed, pushed to overtake and for what, its a joke.

[@johnlds1965]

Excellent instruction, much appreciated. Not had a bike since my late teens (which I crashed), but now middle-aged and somewhat wiser have been feeling the urge to get back on 2 wheels, hence eager to learn skills I should have appreciated 30+ years ago, but didn't. Thanks for posting these, superb. :-)

[@gripper021164]

+johnlds1965 Go for it, best feeling in the world and you are of an age where self preservation is rife (We show no fear as teenagers..lol) so forget the teenage years and have some real fun....You just cant beat it!

[@WiseFoolTrades]

+johnlds1965 Hope you're back on 2 wheels and loving every second of it. All the best to you!

[@fingerhorn4]

Absolutely agree with you about being excessively to the right approaching a left hand bend. A lot of instructors do this mindlessly because they think it is "the rule". As you clearly explain there are more important things like avoiding oncoming traffic. The tiny amount of increased viewing angle does not justify a dangerous position. I agree it not only puts you in danger but intimidates other drivers. Well said and this is easily the best series on motorcycle safety. It should be required reading.

[@petergoddard1960]

It's always helpful to see and hear good clear instruction no matter how long you've been riding and you always deliver in spades. Superb stuff Russ.

[@TheCrumble]

Thanks for the lesson Russ. Great upload and useful for every rider...irrespective of skill level.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Cheers matey, every little helps. :-)

[@n.d715]

What Crumble said : ) ditto

[@guzziventure1750]

What Crumble said: Idem dito

[@biggee9266]

Exceptional video on defensive riding, I drive my car the exact same way you ride. Nice videos.

[@GeorgeTsiros]

... on two wheels?! 😳

[@MICHAELZHANGCA]

Your channel is the best motorcycle riding advice/tips channel I've seen on KZbin. Very nice. Very nice. Thank you for sharing your riding experience with everyone!

[@cadburylover1367]

Thanks RN . It all makes good sense to me. It helps a lot hearing the narrative while getting real time video. Appreciate the effort !

[@Scoottoots]

I like your "do what works" approach to positioning. Some folks get caught up in what they were told or had read, without putting it to the test of reason and experience. This is by far, the best video I have seen on the subject. One further suggestion though: alter lane position as necessary when pulling up behind other vehicles at a traffic light. We all check our mirrors as we are stopping to ensure other vehicles behind us are stopping also, but sometimes there is no one coming up behind us, but there soon could be. This is an everyday situation, where it is wise to take the lane position that offers you the best "out" in case a car comes from behind, not paying attention, and is going to slam into whatever is in front of him or her. The point is: it shouldn't be you or I that he or she rear ends;-). So, always position yourself at stops so you can scoot between cars or into some other safe zone if need be.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Thanks for your comment. I think people put too much onus on the "escape position" First of all, myself or anyone I know have never had this happen although I've heard on one occasion this did happen to someone. Even if it did, you'd have to be sat, staring in your mirrors for that millions to one chance of it happening and then you would have to hope there's room at the side of the car in front, too much what if for me, an over thought situation I.M.O. I hear too many of these"what ifs" that in my opinion are a little TOO paranoid and not "what may reasonably be expected to happen"...also, at what point do you realise this car isn't stopping? by the time he skids, it's too late to do anything anyway. If that's what you want to do, that's fine but I personally feel it's unreasonable to expect others to do it as standard practise. Keep a safe distance in case a car rolls back, of course but that's it for me.

[@Scoottoots]

RoadcraftNottingham Ha, well I hear ya, but it isn't an onerous task. It just becomes habit to choose a good side of the car in front. There are only two sides to choose from. Not difficult. Pick the best, then if the unexpected happens you are not trapped. Simple really.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

***** with all respect this is one of the most "over thought" scenarios. You'll spend all your time staring in mirrors and by the time you realise enough to make an escape decision when someone isn't going to stop, it's either too late or you accelerate into another danger, added to this, the extreme position is also likely to encourage some idiot to pull next to you. It's "reasonable" to expect cars to pull out of side roads (loads of videos of this situation being avoided) etc but this is one scenario which is a millions to one chance (can't find any videos of this situation being avoided) even IF you could avoid it. I'll never agree on this unreasonable scenario and shouldn't be "chastised" because I don't practise it. This is exactly why I'm anti advanced groups, more like an emporers new clothes syndrome, just because someone in a powerful position mentions it, others latch onto it. There's a point you get to where you have to draw a line on scenarios that are too rare to be concerned about like what if you have a blowout?... Better walk instead.. and this is one of them. As I mentioned earlier, if you want to do it, fine but please don't look down on others for not doing it.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

I've put this up on my Facebook channel as a debate. Will be interesting to hear what others think :-) facebook.com/roadcraftnottingham?hc_location=timeline

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Thanks Russ. It's nice getting opinions and feedback from people. In this situation, there's no harm in being vigilant for sure. Check my Facebook page for a more in depth conversation on this subject. :-)

[@lurchonabike]

Been waiting for this for a while! :) Very, very good points. My RoSPA tutor teaches solid white lines as a brick wall rising high, if it really was a brick wall you wouldn't try to bury your handlebar in it... The advanced line using the extreme positioning on a bend has been taught to me you sacrifice your position for safety, and if you loose your view, you loose your speed. However, they do expect you do position to the extreme safe edge when cornering to maximise view and to make the best progress. Personally I'm never in that much of a blazing hurry to get any where, and while I'm happy to be taught and ABLE to do it, the likelihood of me doing it regularly unless I can get a clear safe advantage is probably going to be unlikely. Stopping in the distance you can see to be clear on your side of the road is really important, whether you be a learner or advanced. However, how many people know a) their stopping distances and b) what that stopping distance is in real terms as in how far ahead is so many metres? Not many I suspect. Can't say I do, but I'm also not confident enough in bends to go any faster than I do... Thanks for the upload!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Great analogy regarding the brick wall, thanks. So why does every advanced rider I've ever seen break this rule though? Extreme positioning simply isn't needed, especially on today's roads, room for error IS needed so I'd take that. Nothing on a public road is so important that it requires such an extreme position, it would be safer to simply slow down.

[@lurchonabike]

Exactly. My tutor is fantastic. He struggled more than I did with bends when he started, so is patient and understanding. One other tutor I had was all for progression and quicker and quicker and it was a wet day. I get that we need to expand our limits, e.g. CBT vs advanced training or even DSA test, but there's a way. I'd like to think that IAM/RoSPA is about promoting best practice and safe riding, not about following the book. Roadcraft states that you need to constantly assess and adapt the riding plan, so if that is the case, why ride to the limit of the road? Ride within the limit of the road and your ability. We are all learning each time we ride on the road, whether we're day 1 after the CBT or 40 years as a class 1 Police examiner. When I do my test, I will know how I have performed as I am heavily self critical. I will sit in the debrief and if I don;t agree or understand a reason for being marked down, I will sure as hell ask why! :)

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Lurch OnABike You have a great attitude. You have a choice, jump through their "hoops" to gain a F1rst or Gold, then do it like you say as that, in my opinion is right or do what YOU think is safer and see what score they give you. If you wanna ride fast, do a track day, that really sorts the men from the boys as opposed to who wants to take themselves out their comfort zone on a road. I've seen experienced advanced riders trying to be the fastest on tight bends and going well out of their comfort zones.

[@lurchonabike]

I've got some email conversations that would make your eyes stretch wide as to attitudes :) if I'm down your way with my laptop I'll drop in hehe!

[@renatojlopes]

Hi, Thanks very much for this very informative video! Always learning! Take care

[@emlee2]

I've been watching your videos while doing my mod 2, passed last week and got my first bike, and it's great coming back to these. Not only did this help me with my test, but I'm sure this will help me continue to learn as I keep riding. Thank you!

[@manstu5781]

Always watch the videos posted by this guy. He is very good. I visit Nottingham twice a month and often see him out with pupils. Passed my test in 1985 and have been back biking again for 2 years. When I move to Nottingam in 9 months I certainly will book a lesson with him. If anybody reads this can they recommend another good teacher on youtube.

[@NoWayBiker]

I do agree nearly a 100% with your positioning opinions, it's mostly how I always drive. Before the roundabout at 12:30: I have been in similar situations where larger debris (piece of wood, stones etc) suddeny have appeared from underneath cars as I follow them forwards. The debris has a great chance of staying in the "sump line" because tires don't hit them. When stuff is in the tire tracks however, it will at some point get hit and move out (to the middle or to the side), to where it stays. Once, I hit a big excavator tooth when approaching a roundabout this way, that was freaking scary. You are normally quite close to cars in front because of slow speeds, your attention and eyes are directed far ahead to the traffic in the roundabout and cars in front, not on the ground. This makes it difficult to detect debris in time to dodge it. If something big is in the tire track however, you will either (hopefully) detect the car in front to move around or driving over it. At slow speeds before junctions when you're drving close to vehicles in front, I find the tire tracks safer.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Well said. Another reason to keep a safe following distance.

[@omnibus360]

RoadcraftNottingham I had a nasty foot injury from something similar, a log appeared under a car when braking from 60 to 30 and I had bunched up a bit in the braking area, I did dodge the log but "look where you want to go" went against me there. My foot caught it but I rode home and the bruising and swelling soon went, completely my fault. Fact is, wherever you are in the road you are in a danger position. It's just a reality of biking :) but I have managed 3,500miles on my old Gilera and 12,800 miles on my Honda without ever having come off, dropped the bike or anything so I'm happy with that ;D

[@pankinyek]

i agree with you on that, i went down because of that in the middle of the roundabout(large bolt!!). i did not see it in time as i was looking 'where i want to go' and it was at night...since then i take roundabouts way slower to aloud for observations in front of me .

[@MrRolnicek]

Ever thought that maybe people are weaving between manhole covers because it's fun?

[@sidneylol]

Hi Russ, that's me riding for over 4 years now and I can safely say your videos have had a massive effect on my state of mind and roadcraft while riding AND driving. Thank you very much for the tips, help, your time and effort and care for us all. I enjoyed a tour up around NW of Scotland for a few days and your videos have helped me relax and enjoy the ride. Looking forward to another this year :-) Thanks again and take care Stu

[@Rab_1967]

Thanks for your time and insight. It will help me become a better rider, even though I've got 17 years unbroken riding under my belt, I don't take things for granted. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Bob

[@CalmBiker]

Good video, really entertaining and informative. I'm current preparing for the IAM test. Most of what you cover here has been said to me, almost word for word, except instead of positions 1, 2 and 3, they talk about the one third, half and two thirds positions. They do talk about moving further right for left handers and further left for right handers but only where it gives an advantage and there is no additional danger, such as poor road surfaces, concealed roads, etc. The local IAM group have said about not breaking the law in terms of speed, crossing lines, etc. Maybe this varies between groups but in my group they have said exactly what you state. The position on a straight road that they have said is a bit different however. They suggest that the default position is position 3, moving to position 2 for oncoming traffic or position 1 where there are large vehicles that could be obscuring cars, or for blind crests. When I rode with the police during BikeSafe they said something very similar, suggesting placing the bike where an oncoming driver would expect to see the passenger-side headlight of a car. For overtaking I too think that it's safer to speed a little in some cases but the IAM say no. Interestingly, the police said that speeding to complete an overtake safely by, perhaps, 10mph would be tolerated, as long as you return to the speed limit as soon as you get back into the left side of the road. As for staying out on bends, the IAM group have said to stay out until you can see the next bend, or that there isn't one, then position for that bend or straight. However, assuming a left-hander in position 3 or further right, if you see another vehicle coming, they say you should come in to position 2 or 1. This is for safety primarily but courtesy and not bullying comes into it too. One thing you didn't mention is tight left-handers with restricted visibility. I've been told by both the IAM and the police to approach these in position 1 at a slow speed. Although this sacrifices position and view, it means avoiding the risk of oncoming vehicles that are too large to navigate the corner without cutting, or people who are cutting the corner because they are being lazy. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this one.

[@Bexyboo88]

The last thing you mentioned there Calm, I actually have a good example of that on a road near where I live. It's a National country road and there's a fairly sharp left bend. I know the bend as I've driven on it lots but basically on 'position 1' left side there is such bad road surface that even my car gets pulled around by it. There are hedges and trees either side so no view if there are other vehicles coming. Lorries, tractors and other big vehicles, as well as locals and plain idiots speeding along can very easily cut across the narrow lanes so would be very risky for a biker. I'm assuming the best bet would be to stay slightly left of central and approach very cautiously in this situation.

[@CalmBiker]

Bex88 That's what I'm told. Either central or right across to the left side.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

First of all, regarding the tight left hander, it was slightly touched upon at 6:20 but to cover everything it would have taken an age. Normal straight line riding position for me is usually at pos.3 but if there are a load of oncoming cars I'd rather equalise between the car and the kerb at pos.2, this is one of my points where some riders do it because they've been told to or "the book" says so, not because it's safer. I don't like being any closer to oncoming cars than I absolutely need to and as long as you can stop in the distance you see to be clear on bends, position wherever you feel safer. Remember regarding "crossing lines" it also mentions "straddling" which I have, without fail seen on practically EVERY advanced video I'v seen on KZbin, including me at times. My point there is that if the I.A.M/ROSPA etc INSIST on a "legal" ride, then this practise of panniers/bars overhanging should be stopped, no exceptions. There really is no visual advantage to be gained over safety by moving another 18" to the right. The dangers far outweigh the advantages IMO. Also remember this "Roadcraft" advanced manual was written from the 1930s and was periodically updated for POLICE riders on call. Us mere civvy mortals don't need to be so extreme and won't get away with barging through traffic like the boys in orange do, especially considering the congested roads and reduced speed limits of today. Thanks for your comment buddy.

[@CalmBiker]

RoadcraftNottingham Thanks for the reply. Completely agree with you. I'm sure I'm guilty of plenty of these errors. The one biggest message I've come away with from the IAM rides is the idea that you should be a "thinking rider", evaluating and assessing constantly, not a slave to the system. It's been very positive for me so far.

[@martinwilkinson2344]

Agree tight left-handers should be position 1 and slow. Just be wary of pedestrians/dogs/kids on the LH side, which you can't see if there is a house on the corner for example.

[@kidda74]

As well as informative, I get to vicariously go for a nice ride while sat at my desk at work! Ha Ha! :)

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Bonus! . 😉

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[@raybarber9526]

It was a nice ride wasn't it :)

[@Techusiast]

I've only just recently completed my CBT and I'm looking at every single riding video to help me understand the position and in general, safe riding tips/advices - this is by far the best video I have seen so far. Thank you, this was extremely useful!

[@Hubrisza]

I love this channel. Honest love for bikes and real information to keep you safe and enjoying bikes for the rest of your life - absolutely zero bravado and stupidity. What a gem!

[@jblifeasitis895]

To ride a motorbike, is reading the road and traffic. Positioning on the road is very important, you did a very good "learning" ride. It remembers me what my instructor told me, about positioning. Even the way you are working with the road and traffic makes motorbike riding just amazing.

[@rafaelnakajima]

Your lessons are GREAT! Even though I'm driving a car, everything you say about "slicing the danger" and taking decisions earlier, "planing", has definitely made my driving a lot smoother and safer. Thank you very much, and keep up with the excellent work! Cheers!

[@MrJonn0]

Excellent, clear instruction. I've been on two wheels since '65 and still love it but remind myself that I will never know it all. Please keep your interesting videos coming.

[@exnihilus1]

Missed your riding lessons & tips, thanks for the upload! Looks like a lovely riding weather you got there :)

[@The33JAYJAY]

Excellent video Russ. A lot of common sense and adjusting to the situation at that time, which a lot of people seem to forget for some reason. Well done, you have made people think.

[@peanuts6680]

Best positioning video I've viewed. Practical and uncomplicated. Will keep you safe and relaxed during your ride.

[@tellmeitsnottaken]

I just bought my first road bike a week ago, and your videos have been EXTREMELY helpful. I haven't been going onto heavily trafficked roads yet, but I'm still pretty intimidated riding on even lightly travelled ones. You have taught me a lot about good technique and I very much appreciate it! (Even though we ride on opposite sides of the road) =)

[@WasNotWas999]

I agree as I have never had any issues riding in the sump line. Now a big thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and knowlege, I appreciate it, also big thanks from my entire family who perhaps will also benefit from me taking this knowledge and keeping me safer on the roads Cheers

[@stags-gr8to]

One of the best videos I have ever seen on positioning, thanks Russ! No surprise though, as I’ve only ever seen superb videos from you!

[@The96th]

Always a pleasure watching your lessons Russ, always makes me think about my riding.

[@davidedwards2935]

Honestly think your one of the clearest providers of information out there thanks man

[@Mark-xw3vg]

Took ages trying to find a good instructive film on this subject, glad I got here thanks for sharing your wisdom.

[@backlitcoyote]

Thank you for all your motorcycle safety videos. I've just started riding a motorcycle and I'm finding them all very useful.

[@caapstad]

Thank you for brilliant advice for someone like me about to do the DAS course. Appreciate it!

[@TheGazLab]

I've been riding for 36 years, pleased to say I'm a 1 2 3 person, I live in surrey so I know a few things about potholes and the drain cover flip! The latter nearly cleared me from my Bandit seat, I am a little more hesitant going over manhole covers now and simply try to plan ahead.. great video, subscribed ..

[@ivanolejnik7291]

Getting back on a bike after years (even decades) of abstinence I find these videos very helpful. I'd recommend them to all experienced riders and greenhorns alike.

[@andrewwillcox5252]

It's actually nice watching and hearing you justify a lot of my decision making. I'm constantly asking myself whether what I'm doing would get me into trouble with an examiner. But you, much like my instructor (who got me through my test without a minor), seem to agree that suggested road position isn't just as cut and dry as sitting where you get the best view. Advanced test will be next year for me I think as I (weirdly) really enjoyed lessons and my tests.

[@jingo1963]

I cannot disagree with anything you have said in the video. Plain simple and to the point 10/10

[@CoNvdMerwe]

Thank you for your videos. As I'm a new rider with little but growing confidence I have found your videos a big help at improving myself.

[@Oldvelocette]

Thanks for taking the time to post this. As a new rider it is very helpful 👍🏼👍🏼

[@2wheelsrbest327]

Thanks for posting . Only been riding 50 years but never knew about the off side of vehicle rule re solid white lines and I thought it was your wheels as you mentioned. Always knew I did not know it all so this proves it yet again. Never too old to learn especially when comes to motorcycling.

[@ROURKEY83]

Really enjoyable vid. Always informative. Made total sense to me I've never ever had any bother or worries about riding in sump line.

[@SebCarro.OccPsychology]

Man, I seriously love your videos. You have confirmed all my assumptions about safety and help me questioned 'advanced' advice I received in the past... Well done you!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Thanks Sebastian, that's exactly why I do these uploads. Even question me if in doubt. I like a challenge. ☺

[@alanmathews7695]

I appreciate the clarity on the solid line issue which I must say is how I did understand it due to fact I ride a bike with large panniers. It is good to hear it from you also. I like your video, clear and concise Ron and I have watched a few now and by far this is the best one. I think some of the police need to watch this one as some of their video's are not good examples of good road craft.

[@XuxoJonas]

i'm so happy a more expirienced rider is saying this, me as an not so long rider has the same point of view like this vid. And i'm really happy you have it aswell; riding like this makes me feel safer. thx for this vid man!

[@spkuse]

Enjoyed the vid and the input. As always, your teaching style agrees with the way that I learn. Thank you for making me a better and wiser MC rider!

[@jezzamarkham5285]

Iv'e watched a lot of your videos and i'm impressed with the advice you give. Having been an HGV class 1 driver and PSV class 2 driver i have learnt to look for and see far more than most drivers / riders do ( like hedge lines etc ) but i have learnt a great deal about "riding and controlling a motorcycle safely" from you compared to the training for a test .It's a pity more riders don't watch your videos . Many thanks .

[@karlalesbury4244]

Learning to ride at the moment, and these videos are invaluable tools for car drivers looking to understand more about the road surface, and how it can affect motorcycles. Thanks very much!

[@jrewillis]

As a novice rider I found this useful and confirmed my style of riding when I've seen other full license riders riding in the manner you dislike. Thanks for a quality easy to understand upload.

[@anthonyhoare7544]

Great lessons to be learned here.Driving motorcycles 40 years and i always say anticapation of what can happen and expect the unexpected.

[@csthundercat]

Thanks for another lesson Russ! We love 'em, please keep em coming!

[@NJP-Moto]

A lot of things you mentioned about advanced riding trainings are (were) the ones I disagreed with during the training and the reasons why I eventually left it. Thank you for the brilliant video!

[@leighchapman935]

Whilst watching this video I had one thought come into my mind - “wow....this guy is good”. Been riding more than 20 years and always happy to keep learning !!

[@Nrijder]

I have seen this video 3 times before. I did recommend a friend of mine to watch this video. It always looked when I was riding behind hem he had no idea what position to take. And I have to say he picked it up quite well due to this video.

[@kitcarr4668]

Back here again ... can't tell you how much I appreciate these !

[@TSH2020]

If there were more people like you out on the roads then perhaps the roads would be safer! As a recently qualified GREY BIKER, I am always looking to improve my riding skills and capabilities. Your sensible approach in Roadcraft is a delight. Thank You!!!!

[@greenrath]

As a beginner having just completed my Initial Basic Training (as its called in Ireland) I must compliment you on a superb upload, very clear with exellent safety tips. Many thanks!

[@DanC50087]

Excellent tutorial, glad to know I was basically taught the same when I had my lessons. I was told that manhole covers used to be a problem on the old style tyres but in normal conditions with modern tyres they don't represent much of a risk.

[@robinyates9426]

excellent,informative,sensible riding advice.This guy knows his stuff!

[@screamineaglecafe]

Firstly, sorry this reply is so long. I was a Police officer for 30 years and spent 20 of them as a Motorcycle Traffic Officer. I was trained by the Police and our riding and training was extreme. Often we would ride well above the speed limits, which were not applicable on 'emergency calls' or when training. During training we would have to provide a commentary to the instructor, similar to yours, but ours would often have to be done at 80-100mph. As well as being an 'advanced rider', I was also trained in 'V.I.P. Escort' and 'Anti-Hijack'. I retired in 2007 and became an 'instructor'. I've taught CBT, Direct Entry, and Advanced Level. I have to take into account when commenting, the level at which you are aiming your videos. This is a very good tutorial video. I fully agree that the centre of 'your' lane or 'sump line', as you refer to it, is the safest place to be most of the time as it is 'equidistant' from danger. A common problem I have had in the past when teaching CBT, was with 'scooter' riders, who for some reason believed that they should stay in the left of the lane, nearer the kerb. This is because many were young and making the transition from a bicycle to a scooter. In a 30 mph limit area, there's no reason why a scooter rider shouldn't use the same positioning techniques as a larger motorcycle. Being in the centre of the lane also allows a rider a better view of a left-hand junction and allows any vehicle waiting to exit that junction a better view of an approaching motorcycle. On the approach to a left-hand junction, moving from the centre of the lane, closer to the white line also allows a little more space for the rider should a vehicle start to pull out. The exception is in higher speed limit areas, were the scooter rider should keep left to give precedence to faster vehicles. In a previous video, I made reference to crossing the broken white line, to get an earlier and better view of the 'limit point' on a left hand bend. This is a technique I have used for many years. I am specific that this is 'broken white lines' only and should be no more than 1-2 feet over the line. Obviously, this should never be done with a solid white line. I would also clarify that this should be done early in the approach, to assess the bend and only if the rider has a clear view and there is no oncoming traffic. Having assessed the bend, the rider should move back to his normal lane position before negotiating the bend. There are many other things that an advanced rider can use to help judge the severity of both left and right bends, such as tree-lines, position of telegraph poles, cross-views, and the most obvious, 'warning signs'. Advanced riding is about making 'progress' on the road safely. An advanced rider will cross a broken white line, whilst maintaining the same speed. when assessing an overtake. This will give the rider the opportunity to see oncoming traffic and allows the rider to make the decision whether to accelerate through the overtake, or to move back into the overtake position. Position is a very important part of riding, but position can always be sacrificed for safety. All in all, these are good instructional videos, for a rider who has passed his test and wishes to advance from a novice. Well done and keep up the good work.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

BlackandWhite... Firstly, thanks for your comment. I try to get people and some observers to understand there's a huge difference between advanced riding for civvies and advanced riding for police. I've been instructing 33 years an would like to think I've managed to break out of the "do what the book/louder members of this club says" and adapted it to my way of riding. Modern traffic, roads and bikes now reduce the need to "offside" for that extra view, especially now speed limits are being reduced. Unfortunately I've found a certain arrogance and holier than thou attitude from some police riders when all they've done is a 6 week training course and at the end they're still human. I could go on forever on this subject but bottom line is that Roadcraft is one of the most misread books next to the Bible. ☺As an addition, I'm not aware of anything in roadcraft mentioning offsiding unless you can correct me on this. Thanks.

[@screamineaglecafe]

Yes, I agree with you 100%. I think many Police riders may have a misplaced arrogance. Yes, the Advanced Course is a 6 week residential course, but having completed the course you are expected to maintain that standard of riding. With the exception of motorcycle instructors and courier riders, there are few jobs that involve riding a motorcycle 8 hrs a day. Unlike civilian courses., when I did my training, the Police taught a much more 'offensive' riding style, compared to the 'defensive' riding taught to civvies. Although, I am not sure whether this is still the case in todays World of 'liability'. I also agree that 'Roadcraft' is probably outdated now. I doubt very much if it has changed since I did my training. Roadcraft can be summed up in four words. Position, Speed, Gear, Acceleration, any one of which can be sacrificed for 'Safety'. That I believe still holds true. You are correct that 'off-siding' is not introduced in Roadcraft, but the technique was still taught. I am not sure if that is still the case today. Back in the day, the emphasis was all about speed. If you failed the course, it was most likely because you weren't considered fast enough. We are living in different times now, so I am probably a bit of a dinosaur. As you are an instructor, I assume you are a Cardington assessed, licensed Instructor. Dinosaur or not, I was the only candidate out of 16, that passed my Motorcycle Instructor Training at Cardington on my first attempt. I am now retired and living in the Philippines, where riding a motorcycle is more challenging than ever!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

BlackandWhite.. Ok, I'll admit to offsiding myself but it's more because I can rather than because I need to. Yes I did Cardington several times from the old part one test up to today's requirements. Philippines eh? Nice one. All the best. ☺

[@scallyyy777]

Great video for someone like me that lives in a rural area, lots of blind and narrow corners out in the country. Well explained!

[@daidish2]

Riding again after a long break and found your vid excellent. Well explained in a very easy going manner. I'm glad to have found your "Channel" and will tell fellow bikers about it

[@AamirTime]

High level lesson. Enjoyed that. Have never been on a motorbike.... your videos are helping a lot before I go for the CBT and DAS. Thank you.

[@racingrobbo]

excellent video, I've recently bought myself a bike and intend on touring. I'll definitely watch all the videos as they are excellent refresher tool for me. Thanks for your time, effort and advice!

[@FitzFilmandEdit]

Really helpful video for a learner rider like myself. I watched the whole video 15 minute video without realizing how long it was, really engaging. Great work RoadcraftNottingham

[@allanblackesq]

Very informative, thank you. Many of the hints are also useful for car drivers too. I will check out your other videos as I soon want to go for my CBT, and I have been a car driver for 23 years.

[@spencerabaker]

Thanks Russ, another excellent video. I'm returning to riding after an 18yr break, and am amazed how "back to basics" it all feels on the new steed. I'd like to think I'm humble enough to re-learn and watch these roadcraft and tips videos, you *do* forget when you're driving cars and not riding. Onwards with the binge-watching!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

We're all still learning one way or another. Thanks for the comment. Have fun. ☺

[@davidbassiri8066]

Really good video. I'm about to take my DAS and I've been watching A LOT of how to bike etc. But this and twist of the wrist are the two finest examples on KZbin

[@philipjames8763]

I'm an Advanced Rider (Honda forza 300), and totally agree with all the recommendations in this video. When training for my IAM accreditation it WAS stressful maintaining left bends at or near the white line which is risky and unnecessary. Thank you for the video... Phil

[@ERiCDrAyViN]

I know in a test you are meant to "ride for yourself not for your tester" but road positioning has always been an issue for me because I might feel safe enough but a tester might want me to be further left or right etc.. so I hope this video suits a test also. my second provisional runs out next year so I have to look at as many videos as possible and your channel makes me feel more confident after every video. I'm in Dublin so the roads and rules are almost identical. My instructor told me the testers are also bikers so if they fail me it can also be because they see something that can get me killed, so if I fail my test it can be for the better. In other words the testers being bikers know the dangers. Thanks a lot for the video.

[@OVB_NL]

Hi - just wanted to say a big thanks. I'm in the process of becoming an Advanced Rider with Iam and found the 'in-the-moment' instructions of this video very useful. Thanks for taking the time to put this video together.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Thanks for the comment and all the best with your training.

[@damianwoolfallmusdal7255]

Nice tutorial Russ, thanks for posting. As others have said you convey really practical tips to riding safely.

[@dv4133]

Spot on! What I've been doing for 30 years... Simple and common sense advice without all the over-complicated ROSPA/IAM flannel. Best KZbin biking video I've seen.

[@neiloakey5183]

Great video... thank you. There is so much variety with position 1-7 and I have even heard 5.5 on one video. The 3 position guide is by far the best and is what I practice. Thank you again. More lessons would be perfect.

[@Thesheddweller]

I have ridden motorcycles from the age of 16 and I've ridden them all over the world. I am now 62 and still enjoy a good spirited ride on my Goldwing here in the Uk, I am an IAM member and have observed many successful associates in the past. I have to say that your running commentary was the best explanation of good sensible road positioning I've heard in a very long time and you are right about the IAM, they boast safety but not consistency, laying the majority of riding skills toward making best progress for instance. Please continue to put common sense on your KZbin channel. Well done.

[@Stribers92]

Brilliant video. I'm essentially studying ready to take DAS in the spring. But your videos have helped me improve my skills on a 125 in the meantime. Thank you.

[@Masterukblaster]

Very, very useful, I am learning to ride at the moment and was getting some of the positioning wrong but this helps 100%. Many Thanks!

[@bendigorider1799]

Ive been riding on and off for 36 years and i live in Australia. I enjoyed this video and how every decision was explained. Very similar to my own riding style (Defence).

[@JibberJabberness]

Thanks so much for taking the effort to post this, I've been searching for a non ego driven lesson for months! Champion!

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

You're welcome. ☺

[@flightmonkeyuk6944]

Just done my cbt and this is an excellent consolidation tool from my one days training. Subscribing for sure

[@roadsonboard]

Another great video with sensible advice and viewpoints - looking forward to further training with yourselves.

[@jztgatjdtkgt]

It really helps the novice or intermediate riders to practice this form of talking to one's self about road awareness as a measure for increasing safety. Well done.

[@IceBoNeZ]

Great vid! A tip my mate told me, if you are travelling behind a car (obviously keeping a safe braking distance), it's a good idea to travel somewhere 'between' the right hand wheel track,and the sump (centre) line, for two reasons: 1] Because that way, the on-coming cars have a better chance of seeing you (not hidden by the car in front of you) when they attempt to overtake, and (hopefully) not make the mistake of thinking the car in front of you is the last vehicle they have to wait for to pass by before they can begin to overtake. 2] it also gives you that little bit more 'emergency space' to left that you can move in to, to avoid an on-coming car who doesn't see you. :)

[@japsniper1980]

Thanks for the video and advise. I'm just about to undertake my full bike lessons and test, and this video has given me some great pointers.

[@judgedredd49]

Its good to be advised that one must obey the law or a position or a practise on the road in order to pass whatever advanced test that you are undertaking, Then obtain the discount from your insurance and then to do exactly whatever you want to do. Never minding what you have just learned. That is the best advice yet. . Just think that you have just paid out some £150 or thereabout in order to offset your insurance by a mere 10%.. Does it seem worth it. Well not for at least 5 to 7 years anyway.