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[@Jamie-julie]

This one is good designed and clean look on console. I think it's great deal $5500.

[@haroldfamilia6037]

I have a 2020 Volvo vnl 760. How many days would it take for the installation? Are you guys located in Ohio? I’m in New Jersey.

[@CrazyMan0824]

He is in Canton Ohio

[@AshnaShah-ki4fg]

Can you install this unit in Dallas,Texas?

[@KY4TRK]

First link is no good

[@IOSALive]

Trucking & Fixing With Ryan, This is great! I liked it and subscribed!

[@calsmith7902]

I am inspired by your Video…. But do have some questions…. Are you available for questions ?

[@SkyeTerrier2017]

They’re useless in very hot areas, such as most of the US during the summer. They will not keep the bunk area cool (say below 80 degrees) if it’s over 85 or 90 outside. After 3 months in a Freightliner with one of these, I’m moving to a local job. Endless cycles of sleepless nights and having to jump the truck several times per week from the reefer battery was enough for me.

[@nickaltvater5592]

How many watt hours are the batteries? What is the watt draw of the ac unit? 2200 watts is an energy hog. My mini-split is only 1100 watts with 8000 BTUs

[@alexl2174]

Very cool Ryan. When you're charging batteries, doesn't lithium have a C Rate of 100 amps while lead acid is 20 amps. Won't an alternator doing 150+ amps harm the batteries? Also, cold air drops and warm air rises. Why not run tubing vents higher in the truck so the AC is usable and felt instantly, rather than hugging the floor until the cold air builds up in the living space? Keep up the good work.

[@Btween2]

Ryan, I need to get my truck to you. I’m really interested in the batteries and how that would work with IdleSmart. Hopefully in the next couple of months I can get over to you. I’ll make an appointment. I’m thinking I may have to upgrade my alternator and I know I need new batteries. AC is already installed. I’ll call your office.

[@truckingandfixing]

Sounds good!

[@richcherwalk6349]

Your ad page says your lithium batteries have 2000 life cycles, typically lithium has 10000? Are these used battery cells?

[@truckingandfixing]

Can you provide a source where you see typical lithium has 10,000 cycles? Just Googled, 2,000 sounds about right. Will check with manufacturer as well and follow up on it.

[@richcherwalk6349]

No you’re right the manufacturers rate them conservatively but it is typical for a lithium ion battery to last 5 to 10 thousand cycles, I confused what a lot of experts cite for being what the batteries are rated for.

[@johngrabowski2957]

Will be in touch b4 summer. Thanks

[@maxcenevil]

I've never seen 10000 Cycles. I think you're confusing with a 10-year lifespan before they drop down to 80%. I typically see 3,000 Cycles

[@famcantor5]

Do you guys install on Pete 379 flat top car carriers?

[@53van]

Hi Ryan, I have a 2019 International LT. Will the batteries work with my factory installed under the bunker unit and my no idol system?

[@truckingandfixing]

It should, the batteries are the replacement of the starting batteries and providing power for the cab.

[@53van]

@@truckingandfixing what is the cost for 4

[@truckingandfixing]

$3,600, with current rebate $3,000

[@53van]

@@truckingandfixing ok thanks

[@frankwilson6872]

Hi Ryan and Sophia, this is Jack H. 2018 Pete 579 with Landstar. Anyways, what's the cost on the batteries? I'm thinking of four at my next inspection four the Aux side and then four later when i need starting batts. -40F cold is the best ive seen. Once all batteries are lithium, what do you think about tying them all together in one system? That should give me lots of hours of cooling. Just thinking out loud. Cheers,

[@truckingandfixing]

Hi Jack! Hope you are well! Most likely you don’t need 8 batteries for 10 hours of run! The 4 lithium starting batteries will be similar to the 8 AGMs you have on your truck! You can just utilize the 4 starting lithium batteries. However, if needed, you can always add the deep cycle lithium batteries we also have here. We don’t recommend to use the starting lithium for auxiliary side. The starting lithium batteries are $900 each retail. We have a manufacturer rebate now, the final out is $750 each. The deep cycle for the aux side will be a little cheaper. Please call us, we will give you a quote for that.

[@dancarroll2618]

For this system, is there a solar panel that would mount to the sleeper roof to keep the batteries charged while doing a 34hr off?

[@redshifttrucking4537]

There is no solar panel anywhere in the World that can produce enough electricity to keep an air conditioner running. You have to think of it as... I can idle for 34 hours at one gallon per hour times $4.00 per gallon..... or such a system may reduce that idle time to 24 or 10 hours.... and my savings will be the difference. This type of system comes into play best when you are working hard, and only shutting down for 10 to 12 hours, then running 10 to 11 hours to recharge the batteries.... in which case, your entire stop time is covered by the electricity you generated on your run. It is always saving you money.... but probably can't bridge a 36 hour break.... in which case you will idle the hours it can not...... the alternative is to idle ALL the hours, which costs more... much more.

[@Nikowalker007]

50 watt S Panel is enough to run few interior fans and keep the battery charged when you’re away but definitely not enough to run Air conditioner …

[@zgomez68]

​@redshifttrucking4537 look up the EG4 AC it's a mini split compressor ac that works only off of solar no batteries to supplement

[@Daniel-z2j2v]

This system looks like it’d be perfect for a car hauler. I’m very interested

[@truckingandfixing]

Check out our website for more information www.polarfoxapu.com/

[@Daniel-z2j2v]

@@truckingandfixing where are you located? I’m out here in California

[@carlosnorris352]

@@Daniel-z2j2vwebsite says Canton, OH

[@Jackknife-TV]

Do this system have start stop,?

[@Jamie-julie]

Ryan did you ever get to finish or make the tk/carrier apu standalone so we can do away with tk control module.

[@truckingandfixing]

You still remember it 😉, bought the rebuilt kit a few years back, never got back to it unfortunately.

[@gamingroom-k3e]

How can i get in touch with you guys to get this in my truck is a 2018 international LT

[@truckingandfixing]

Please visit our website fttfleet.com/pages/electric-apu

[@jimhays1896]

Great job Ryan!

[@truckingandfixing]

Thank you!

[@DarrenRivey]

The rooftop variation 2000R ranked highly in testing done by reseller rack up and go when compared to equivalent rated, but significantly higher priced units. DC to DC air conditioners perform so much better than AC with inverter. At less than $6k it’s reasonably priced when compared to having a similar system installed by a van upfitter.

[@macbeliever]

Hey Ryan, nice video! I have a quick question. My truck has a 160 amp alternator. Is there any need to add a DC to DC charger to limit the charging current to the battery’s? Or are these batteries smart enough to do it by themselves? Thanks!

[@ricardohrivera]

Quick question Sir. Y have anyone in the NY area to get this unit

[@dell7054]

HARBOR FRIGHT generator and portable AC. Wouldnt that be a better options all of my friends have been using them for years no issues.

[@carlosnorris352]

Just don’t go to California and park in public spaces. Comrade Gavin might send you to gulag.

[@jonplay3602]

The mack Anthem space under the cab is shorter will this work for that

[@TopUpLogistics]

Does it have similar functions as diesel apu ?

[@Jackknife-TV]

You completed what I could not afford to do lol

[@wiredforstereo]

I just want the batteries. How much are the batteries?

[@truckingandfixing]

Battery retail is $950 each.

[@wiredforstereo]

@truckingandfixing Hmm, doesnt srem to make much sense for me since normal batteries are $89 at the local Freightliner shop. But I don't need the EPU. Assuming lithium replaces 2x lead batteries, is a lithium going to last 5x longer? Especially since my trucks are used in summer only.

[@finalout99]

Great job Ryan. Really great price point too! Hope you get a lot of customers.

[@rbk77]

Great video. Have you guys installed DC charger for the starting batteries, or this particular batteries do not require a DC charger?

[@truckingandfixing]

DC charger is not required for these batteries

[@throughmyeyes.9479]

where are you located?

[@ygtcbee23]

Good luck. The challenges with cooling a truck are complicated. Batteries have many good uses, running a DC cooling system is not one of them. I applaud your resourcefulness presented over the years on the channel. This install overlooks many important factors that contribute to moving heat energy outside the cab/bunk. If you ever want to chat about cab cooling happy to contribute my experience.

[@wiredforstereo]

Your comment is completely absent details and specifics, which means it is worthless. Please amend.

[@carlosgarza7878]

How much do these batteries weigh to compare to acid lead batteries? You don't talk about that.

[@truckingandfixing]

This one weighs 33 lbs each

[@rayrpuente]

Why do you need a $2000 deposit if you have all of the equipment at your shop?

[@truckingandfixing]

Because we need good faith. Sometimes we might not have all in stock, need to order parts for the specific installation.

[@TheBigOrangePumpkin]

Cool setup. But honestly . I dud have epu before. I need apu, now is what I have. I'm from canada and is good apu when is cold to keep engines warm

[@truckingandfixing]

We are developing a coolant heater for our APU package now, it will be available soon.

[@TheBigOrangePumpkin]

@@truckingandfixing nice

[@truthTransport]

What kind of air conditioner is that and where can I get one...

[@zgomez68]

Look up velit a/c

[@MrSehka77]

How much for the batteries only?

[@truckingandfixing]

Battery is $900 each retail. But manufacturer has a rebate right now, out of door price is $750

[@uria711]

Does it heat?

[@truckingandfixing]

Good question, this is a/c only, you will have to install a bunk heater for heat, which we offer as well. We have a great heater here for the heating solutions.

[@uria711]

@@truckingandfixing how much would that add to the install?

[@truckingandfixing]

@uria711 $1,500 installed roughly 4-6 hours labor. Heater itself comes with 2 year warranty, super efficient, designed and supported by the US engineers.

[@uria711]

@@truckingandfixing ok great thank you so much for the info

[@richcherwalk6349]

How do you prevent voltage surge from damaging the alternator once batteries are charged?

[@truckingandfixing]

Can you ask the question in another way? The batteries are designed as a starting battery, it has the advanced battery management system to do the job as a starting battery, just like your acid batteries. It wouldn’t damage the alternator.

[@richcherwalk6349]

Typically when a lithium ion battery is finished charging it stops taking any further charge vs a lead acid battery that’s never fully charged, the bms shuts the battery off 100% to protect it from overcharging at that point the alternator will get a spike voltage that can damage the diodes in the regulator, lead acid don’t have this problem. The only solution I’ve heard of is special alternator regulators designed for lithium ion protection. Most bms can’t handle the instant current draw of a starter motor but just because these do doesn’t mean it protects the alternator from damage, you should check? (I doubt they do)

[@victis88]

I think most truck alternators only charge at 14.1v so the batteries aren't usually ever fully charged

[@richcherwalk6349]

@@victis88 that’s true with lead acid but not lithium, the bms completely shuts off the battery otherwise it would be damaged.

[@kajuan85]

I prefer to run 8 agms. 4 for the truck, and 4 for auxiliary. Charged by a dc-dc charger. I run local though, so I don't really need to run an auxiliary unit for no more than about 4 hours. Cost would be much cheaper, and agms are easier to get locally for replacement.

[@richcherwalk6349]

You're having to buy 4 extra batteries and if you look at the duty cycle You're probably paying more even a lot more

[@kajuan85]

@richcherwalk6349 it'll still be cheaper than 4 lithium starting batteries. Plus, if you're doing otr, good luck finding replacement lithium batteries if something goes wrong. It'll be smarter to have starting batteries for the truck and an auxiliary lithium battery bank for accessories. That way, if you have battery problems, you can go just about anywhere and get batteries for the truck, but just replace the lithium whenever. Image being otr, and you have to change out your lithium batteries, back to lead acid, because nobody carries lithium!

[@truckingandfixing]

This particular lithium battery can start the truck with just 1 (we tested it, though manufacturer recommended 2 to be safe), and it can be installed with acid batteries if needed, it will do the job. Hope it helps.

[@kajuan85]

@truckingandfixing wiring lithium and lead acid together with no separation? Me personally, I wouldn't do it! I agree lithium is better, but cost wise, I don't think it make sense. Group 31 Lithium starting batteries I've seen cost $900+. I didn't see a price on these batteries.

[@samuelfox8126]

People aren't converted to lithium until they've experienced them. You'll buy a new truck before the batteries need replacing.

[@conquest7563]

Quit repeating yourself.