How long will a 100 amp hour battery run a 5000 BTU air conditioner?

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SeidelRanch

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Күн бұрын

I hooked up this 5000 BTU window unit AC to some 100 amp hour LiFePO4 batteries to see how long it will run. Check out if it even worked and for how long.
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@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
I hooked up this 5000 BTU window unit AC to some 100 amp hour LiFePO4 batteries to see how long it will run. Check out if it even worked and for how long. Check out the batteries here: amzn.to/4dqVaWh
@Nlake13
@Nlake13 Ай бұрын
ampage 😂
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
@@Nlake13 It just rolls off the tongue better.
@johnpaullennon1199
@johnpaullennon1199 29 күн бұрын
Now get a 12v super capacitor bank and try it with one battery , get the best of both worlds.
@TheWickerShireProject
@TheWickerShireProject 14 күн бұрын
We run off grid at 48v ( 56.7V full 46.2V empty ) with 13.5 Kw Hrs of 15.3 Kw Hrs.
@johnwarner4809
@johnwarner4809 Ай бұрын
The capacity of the battery is 100 Amp-Hours x 12.8 Volts = 1,280 Watt-Hours. If the Air Conditioner pulls 500 Watts average-continuous at 120 volts, then 1,280 Watt-Hours/500 Watts = 2.56 hours. Realistically however, the unit will only run for a little over 2 hours, because when the battery gets really low, it won't be able to handle the 20 seconds of surge current every time the compressor turns on (that is, if the compressor cycles). If you add a huge capacitor to accommodate the 20-second compressor start-up surges (the cap fills up between compressor starts, and is there to assist with surge current when the compressor re-starts), then things might run a tad longer. But based on the calculations, I'd say 2.2 hours is about the maximum limit you should expect.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Great info. I think that is basically what a soft start does, but they are more than the AC unit is so they are hard to justify for something like this. I have been thinking about putting them on the ACs in my RV, but I have enough battery and solar power so I am not sure it's even worth it. Thanks for the comment.
@peteralvarez3039
@peteralvarez3039 Ай бұрын
theoretically, it can run 2.56 hours but that is when the battery is complyely drained. lipo batts should only be drained up to 50%, so you can only run to 1.8 hrs.
@budmartin3344
@budmartin3344 29 күн бұрын
You also have to factor in the inverter conversion loss, typical inverter has about 85 ~ 90% efficiency, so to if 500W is being from from the output of the inverter, then the DC input power that the inverter will be pulling from the batteries is about 555W (@90% eff) this is the number you will be using to get more accurate run time from your battery.
@louf7178
@louf7178 28 күн бұрын
@@peteralvarez3039 I believe 50% SOC applies to lead-acid batteries; 10% SOC for LiFePO4.
@jwy224
@jwy224 26 күн бұрын
I would say that the AC would get 2 hours of RUN time. Once the room is cooled to set temp, the AC will shut down.
@garyday6681
@garyday6681 28 күн бұрын
Go to 9:27 to avoid all the uneccesary talking. Also on 1 battery it runs just under 2 hours on a 2000 watt pure sinewave inverter.
@Gary-ee3kq
@Gary-ee3kq Күн бұрын
I can run my 9k btu mini split for 2.5 hrs using a 100 ah 12v lifepo4 redodo and that's with bad cells! Only uses 0.7 kwh for that long.
@markandsuriyonphanasonkath8768
@markandsuriyonphanasonkath8768 Ай бұрын
Hi from Phuket - Thailand - GREAT video, I've done this many times, BRILLIANT to experiment, all the VERY best to you and your discoveries - NICE!
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@jackm6307
@jackm6307 17 күн бұрын
Phuket Thailand...sounds like a very laid back place to live.
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 Ай бұрын
I have 5000 BTU Frigidaire in my shed I'm in Phoenix wanted to keep it at 85 or 90 but highest it would go was 85. We keep stock for our eBay business in there. My first attempt was two 250 watt used solar panels Epever charge controller 12V 100AH lithium battery and 1500 watt inverter. When I first got it the temp outside was about 85F to 90F it would run 8 hours the AC unit pulled about 400 watts. When it got to 115F outside now the window AC was pulling 1000 watts of power. Yes lot more power when it's that hot out I can run about 4-5 hours if panels have full sun which is from about 8am to 1pm neighbor tree shades one panel. My Epever puts out about 29 amps at 12V into the battery but the window AC is pulling 800-1000 watts of power by 10am. It runs longer then I thought it would. Now I'm building version 2 which is 4800 watts of solar, EG4-6000XP AIO inverter, 15k watt 280ah DIY 48V battery pack. It's going in the garage instead of the shed. Working on a mini split for the garage just about done ill start on the panels. Until then I have to swap the AC over to grid power using a long extension cable from the house. The window unit runs 24/7 for weeks and weeks from June-September I'm surprised how long it has held up some times when I shut it down to move the plug over I can hear the refrigerant boiling. If it dies replace it with another one I don't think it will die only cost me $139 at Home Depot.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Great info, thanks. I know what you mean on the temps and wattage. Mine has held up fine for over 10 years and used for probably 9 months of the year. I got this for $99 at Home Depot and it's been great. This unit has outlasted the main 5 ton AC unit in our home. I plan to keep it as long as it will run.
@gregmckenna3858
@gregmckenna3858 Ай бұрын
My LG 10,ooo BTU Dual Inverter window air uses 1000 watts Max, so I am not sure how your 5000 uses the same??
@user-yi2sd6mh9w
@user-yi2sd6mh9w 22 күн бұрын
That hanier, A.C. IS THE WORST. 🗑 🚮 TRASH
@user-yi2sd6mh9w
@user-yi2sd6mh9w 22 күн бұрын
​its a cheap A C the worst. Its not energy efficient . Its hanier brand junk@@gregmckenna3858
@user-yi2sd6mh9w
@user-yi2sd6mh9w 22 күн бұрын
+that's not the correct thermometer. That's for a fridge or oven. 😮😮😮
@HeavyDemir
@HeavyDemir Ай бұрын
Mother of .. this guy never stops talking .. I think it is around the 10 min. mark he actually gets to the point but using two 100ah batteries.
@Philip-KA4KOE
@Philip-KA4KOE 29 күн бұрын
9:45
@MC2738
@MC2738 29 күн бұрын
I’d suggest increasing your attention span.
@davehimlin2374
@davehimlin2374 29 күн бұрын
yeah..its horrible...
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Some are saying I did not say enough or go into detail enough and others are complaining I talked too much. Just shows how the world is divided. It is what it is. Enjoy.
@jwrhynejr9608
@jwrhynejr9608 26 күн бұрын
Absolute cranky folks watching here! Sorry SeidelRanch!! Just can’t satisfy NITPICKERS!!! Just saying!
@joshm3342
@joshm3342 26 күн бұрын
Back in 2022 the smallest Inverter AC I could find was the LG LW8022IVSM 8k BTU Dual Inverter. On lowest fan speed, it never uses more than 500 watts. LG now offers the LW6023IVSM 6k BTU. I'm keeping my 8k unit: It is quiet enough to sleep with it running, as it gradually ramps the compressor up & down.
@mehicanbls1526
@mehicanbls1526 Ай бұрын
This channel has become such a serious help in my life lol.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Thank you. Glad you like it.
@supremeautomotive6749
@supremeautomotive6749 26 күн бұрын
He is using super small jumper cables. Trying to start ac unit with them won't work correctly. If he has correct wires it would work with 1 battery
@OFFGRID_Trucker
@OFFGRID_Trucker Ай бұрын
REPEAT AFTER ME... A M P E R A G E.. Because it matters. The title is also misleading, because you have a pair of 100Ah connected.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
I know amperage matters. I explain that in the video. It's not misleading if it's addressed in the video. I get this question and wanted to answer it the way people think of it. Most basic 100ah batteries can't.
@OFFGRID_Trucker
@OFFGRID_Trucker Ай бұрын
@SeidelRanch You don't get it. Pronunciation is my point. It's like someone mis pronouncing your name incorrectly. It doesn't matter at the end of the day, but it's still annoying 😒
@ernestgalvan9037
@ernestgalvan9037 Ай бұрын
@@SeidelRanch..the TITLE is misleading. The CONTENT may be correct, but that comes AFTER the title that asks “How long will -> A
@steverturnsk6190
@steverturnsk6190 Ай бұрын
@@OFFGRID_Trucker He is testing the longitivity of the batteries. It is obvious what he is meaning. You may wish to get a life?
@brianOcurradhin
@brianOcurradhin Ай бұрын
Trolls
@a64738
@a64738 Ай бұрын
If you combine a small battery with big capasitor (1farad for example) you can run a fridge or AC on a smaller battery as the capacitor will take care of the upstart surge that is typically 1500w.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
True. A soft start capacitor would be nice to play with, but this AC is cheap and old. I would rather run 2 or more with this anyway.
@x35gaming
@x35gaming Ай бұрын
@@SeidelRanch You can also put Capacitors in parallel with the battery.
@craignoo
@craignoo Ай бұрын
That is what I was thinking
@ABUNDANCEandBEYONDATHLETE
@ABUNDANCEandBEYONDATHLETE Ай бұрын
They make them small now. Saw a 90F 900AMP 12v to 12v conditioner or whatever. 2xx bucks on Amazon
@DougBernitt
@DougBernitt 21 күн бұрын
@@x35gamingI use 2 super capacitors in parallel! I can run my 5k btu AC for almost 6 hours.
@LSTractorOwners
@LSTractorOwners Ай бұрын
Why is it always the trolls that comment? I liked it. Forget the people that seem to have personal issues with their life. Keep these useful videos coming.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Thanks. I have pretty thick skin, so it's no biggie to me.
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 Ай бұрын
It's not Amp-age, it's Amp-Err-Age. 'Ampage' is not a thing. Great demonstration though. I would like to see what kind of inverter you were using because most amateurs will look at this and think it is a direct connection to the battery. Also a closer view of the meter would help.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Thanks. I will work on that for the next video. Sadly I know the right term and spelling, but my mouth will not say it. I will work on that too. Thanks for the pointers and feedback.
@markg9796
@markg9796 Ай бұрын
​@SeidelRanch Truthfully, I agree with chatgpt1111.... It was bugging me through the whole video. I will say this... you are quite the honorable man by not getting all butt-hurt when called out for it. 😂 Otherwise, good video.
@tchong5424
@tchong5424 26 күн бұрын
What backup battery for high power units like aircond and heaters are hardly practical. Use a generator instead! High power units causes quick degradation of any known battery backup system! Use for lights, fans, TV and perhaps fridge is most suitable! I had calculated costings as the worst case is the expensive battery prices is still not viable for any High power appliances!
@jackm6307
@jackm6307 17 күн бұрын
For all the needlessly picky and spell/grammar checkers. It's very petty for one, it also tends to bring to light ones own insecurities. But one of the main reasons I don't spell/grammer check on discussion boards is the next thing you know, the spell checker themselves misspells, uses wrong grammar or messes something up and posters have a regular laugh in over the timing of their mistake...very embarrassing. And I can assure you someone will follow the spell checker around looking for their mistakes. That's not to mention everyone messes those things up at one time or another, big deal. Lastly, all you who don't let those type things even phase you, thanks for being the class act that you are...always does my heart good to see even huge mistakes overlooked completely by most...like it's not even there. I'm proud to share the planet with such people.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
Thanks. Well said. Yeah, we all need to get along and work together instead of tear everyone down. That said, I try to have thick skin. The internet is full of trolls.
@javiercoronel1169
@javiercoronel1169 Ай бұрын
😮 double the amp ,nice I learned something today
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@amnobody117
@amnobody117 Ай бұрын
Good test. One thing that might help in a small way. Run on fan only mode, then change to cool mode.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Good tip! I will try that and see what changes.
@MatthewThie-md9nj
@MatthewThie-md9nj 29 күн бұрын
I just did a similar experiment with a 100 AH battery to an old Frigidaire unit using a modified sine wave inverter to see how that worked. I noticed that you are using pretty small wires for your battery connections, which may be the problem with the surge on start. You should be using 00 wire at least. I did have an issue with my set up using the modified sine wave inverter. The AC unit had a thermal overload on a 95 degree day, after about one hour. I plan to repeat the test with my pure sine wave inverter and do not expect any problems. Good topic and video.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Thanks. I think the wires are ok, because using the same wires with 2 batteries works fine. But, I will try it again with some 1/0 wires I have to see if it makes any differance.
@TheCrabtree0
@TheCrabtree0 22 күн бұрын
@@SeidelRanch using clamps not good at all, high resistance at high currents
@PaulHigginbothamSr
@PaulHigginbothamSr 24 күн бұрын
Both these last two Masseys was excellent. The 1800 took a little more fiddling. And until put to the pull did not fully cooperate. It just needed worked to get over it's rest. The divider valve and the orbital thingy needed some love, but I think that was mostly the divider o-rings. To stop fluid loss and actually steer. I think they both look great now that JT has given them a face lift. Possibly they will both outlive JT unless he lives to 90 which I am very much hoping. Maybe he will still be running them both in the field 30 years from now. Which he deserves highly. Good work JT.
@Vibe77Guy
@Vibe77Guy 29 күн бұрын
Cooling from 85°f to 75°f is not the issue. What is the external ambient temperature? Cooling the interior from 85°F to 75°F is not the same on an 85° day as it is on a °105° day.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Yeah, I think that was the issue here. The room was already cooled, but it was hot outside so the unit had to work pretty hard to just keep it that way. This is a 2nd unit in my office to help on very hot days. It usually does great, but I keep it on 72 to 75 and have both ACs running. This time I was pushing it pretty hard.
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN Ай бұрын
This is sort of what I'm looking for: I have a LG portable AC LP0721WSR , 7000btu , Rated current 10.9A , we only want to use in our small BR in Florida when the power goes out & I am trying to find out WHAT SETUP, batteries & other equipment do I need to run such for a minimum of 8 hours and then HOW & WITH WHAT can I recharge them using a generator during the day?
@kf5hcr176
@kf5hcr176 29 күн бұрын
Here's my set up; 5000 BTU midea AC, eight 100 amp hour 12 volt lithium iron phosphate batteries, LOW frequency inverter, LVYUAN brand, 5 kw. From Amazon, and 2 kw of solar This works for us. I have had two good quality high frequency inverters fail, for inductive loads like AC or motors, low frequency is essential. I'd invest in batteries first and add solar later as funds allow, as you can recharge batteries from a little generator quickly. Best of luck
@jongonegone1262
@jongonegone1262 Ай бұрын
maybe a newer unit with energy star rating, but has energy saver mode built in to cycle whole unit on and off at a exact temp.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
I am looking to buy another one. I will get one with all these extras and test again. Thanks.
@sitechca70
@sitechca70 27 күн бұрын
Interesting title but I gave up after more than halfway, you still haven't started.
@lanesteele240
@lanesteele240 16 күн бұрын
Yep. Get on with it bro is what i kept saying
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Сағат бұрын
But it's so good. I am building up for the climax. Watch the end credits too.
@Ms.Frankenbuilder
@Ms.Frankenbuilder 20 күн бұрын
Interesting test, have two systems around here, they wouldn't run an ac very long. Work great for other things . New sub.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 19 күн бұрын
Thanks. Yeah, AC units are hard on batteries and off-grid setups.
@marcknab7456
@marcknab7456 11 күн бұрын
I think you mean in rush current LOL. Good video.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 11 күн бұрын
Probably. English is my second language. Gibberish is my first.
@hardymichael533
@hardymichael533 29 күн бұрын
Good idea EcoFlow delta pro 3 and please show more test it out on KZbin video 😮 and on a air conditioner window
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
I will do some more of these tests on different batteries and AC units. I am going to try the refrigerator next.
@MrVegasTube
@MrVegasTube 23 күн бұрын
Thanks For posting this great video. I couldnt do it so I'm glad you did.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
Glad I could help! Thank you.
@marcknab7456
@marcknab7456 11 күн бұрын
These new efficient air conditioner work better on low or dehumidifier setting. The ac fans are to strong the new weak compressor/condensers.
@jackm6307
@jackm6307 20 күн бұрын
Try it with a reasonably new unit and in the size of room the AC is rated...5k BTU preferable. Also, set it to around 75f instead of full throttle. Be interesting to compare the numbers. 1/100Ah battery would make it somewhat less confusing. Thanks for the test. Also, those are just suggestions... I realize you may not have all those specs just lying around waiting to be tested
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 19 күн бұрын
No, great suggestions. Thanks. I have another unit that is still in the box that I want to try and see what happens. I am hoping the peak draw is much lower than this one.
@jackm6307
@jackm6307 19 күн бұрын
@@SeidelRanch Thanks...be looking forward to it.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 28 күн бұрын
There are also new smaller AC units which us way less power. Like 1/3 the size of yours.
@user-mz7hb1dq5x
@user-mz7hb1dq5x 16 күн бұрын
What if you put an audio capacitor in parallel? They are cheep and then you can use one battery.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
I want to test that. Watch for that video coming.
@Jeremy-ux2cq
@Jeremy-ux2cq 13 күн бұрын
How much heat was added from the inverter and batteries? A simple calculation can tell you how long this will run...
@rafterh2181
@rafterh2181 28 күн бұрын
The newer inverter type window AC like Midea will suck way less juice
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 27 күн бұрын
I think I am going to pick me one of those up and test it out. Thanks.
@aswanblack3317
@aswanblack3317 Ай бұрын
For the information you want skip to 13:30. Time is $$$$ don't waste it
@davehimlin2374
@davehimlin2374 29 күн бұрын
agreed...this guy talks way too much for my attention span
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
True, I tried to explain a lot in the video for people that are not as wise as others. The results are always at the end.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
My wife says the same thing.
@louf7178
@louf7178 28 күн бұрын
Haste makes waste. Gotta know what you're talking about first. Otherwise it could a waste of $$$$.
@computer-ot8si
@computer-ot8si 29 күн бұрын
The way it determines whether to turn the compressor on or off is very primitive and the temperature sensor which is just placed on the coil is not accurate at all. Perhaps we could add DIY control unit to take more factors out of the ac unit into consideration to turn compressor on or off. Then the battery can last much longer.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Yeah, that's probably true. An it's a cheap unit, so it's probably very basic.
@MissionaryForMexico
@MissionaryForMexico 20 күн бұрын
If you tested a window unit made by Midea. With inverter technology, it would run much longer!
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 19 күн бұрын
I want to get one of those. I have heard of them, but don't have one.
@MissionaryForMexico
@MissionaryForMexico 19 күн бұрын
@@SeidelRanch I purchased a Midea 12,000 BTU from sam's club for $300. Incredible efficient, quiet, has a remote control. The u line is even more quiet but more expensive. This inverter technology is the answer to energy efficiency!
@a64738
@a64738 Ай бұрын
I guessed 2 hours 30 min for one 100A lifePo4 battery if you cheated with capacitor (or as you did another battery) to get it running as one battery can not get AC or fridge started alone.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Yeah, you have to have a battery that can surge that much and not many 100ah ones will.
@kraftzion
@kraftzion 29 күн бұрын
Interesting test. I will say if I was trying to run ac off solar/ batteries I would spring for a inverter driven mini split. They are light years ahead of a window unit. Not only get rid of the surge but also get about twice the cooling for the energy expended. So an 8000btu mini split will take less power to run than a 5000btu window unit. Your wording suggests you think that setting the thermostat lower will make it cool faster. The thermostat is just a switch. If the temperature is above setpoint the unit is on. A lot of people seem to think setting the thermostat lower will make the ac cool faster even you don't so thought it was worth mentioning. SEER rating =btus of heat removed per wh. Most mini splits are around 21. That window unit is around 9.75 seer . So burns more than twice the energy to do the same job
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
I have a mini split, but not an inverter mini split. The mini split is WAY better than the window unit, but it's still working so I don't want to toss it. I set it lower to make sure the compressor would at least cycle on for the test. In this case it never stopped. It's not going to cool "faster", but it will keep it cooling and not cycling over and over.
@lucientjinasjoe1578
@lucientjinasjoe1578 29 күн бұрын
It's power, start drops voltage and amp goes up ,your inverter protection work above 10.5 battery volt,check it in the manual
@PosiCat
@PosiCat 19 күн бұрын
You should throw a couple super caps into the circuit to handle surge.
@lonelydronerfl5184
@lonelydronerfl5184 Ай бұрын
A 48v system would work much better. There would be much less stress on the inverter, less current draw, and better surge capacity.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
I do want to buy me a 48v inverter, so when I get one I will do this test again to see how well it works out. Thanks.
@samuelfox8126
@samuelfox8126 2 күн бұрын
Do you really set your AC to 65 in your house? I do 70-72 and that's plenty cold.
@bluesteel48
@bluesteel48 Ай бұрын
Cut to the chase !
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
I was cutting and cutting. That chase is hard.
@steverturnsk6190
@steverturnsk6190 Ай бұрын
Let see your videos!
@troydorame890
@troydorame890 17 күн бұрын
Less talking. Tell us what batteries to buy. Because all of your other gibberish means nothing to the majority of people.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
Ok, got it. Buy this one: amzn.to/4dEqp01
@billwilliams774
@billwilliams774 8 күн бұрын
New 5000 watt Midea runs at between 460 and 485 i have 3 i tested snd put back in box.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 4 күн бұрын
That is what I want to get next. One of the inverter type ones.
@marklapez1649
@marklapez1649 Ай бұрын
It might destroy the inverter. A 350w. Aircon. Can kill a 2,000 w inverter. Probably not right away in time it will. An inverter aircon it's plug and play. No headache
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
I need to look into that. I have heard of the inverter mini-splits. I might get me one. Thanks.
@danebolster
@danebolster Ай бұрын
Go 24 Volt and Reduce the amperage requirements fuse and wire gauge size might help allot
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
A 24v inverter would be cool, but I don't have one. The wire size is fine since they still ran the AC with the second battery. They do not even get warm. Of course 48 volt would be even better. I was just trying to test the ability to run that AC on battery.
@alainalbert6663
@alainalbert6663 Ай бұрын
😊​@@SeidelRanch
@arvidlystnur4827
@arvidlystnur4827 20 күн бұрын
So whats the point of this experiment the wattage lost when using a battery is always lower than the wattage used to recharge the battery! And even more energy is lost to generate the charge thus it's more efficient to run high amperage equipment off of a generator. I have a remote cabin that I run lites and radio, 120 ah lead acid battery to a 120 ac inverter. I turn the inverter on about 6:00 pm till about 8:00 am. Each lite draws about 14 watts, radio 5, cd player 15 and bass amp 35 or 40 watts. If I go three days without charging, the inverter might shutdown and charging might take about 2.5 hours to charge using much gasoline. (I have a special charger that can charge a deep cycle battery as fast as possible without excessive plate degradation.) If I go three or two days before charging I've discovered the battery degrades quicker and wears out quicker. By charging it once aday, charging time takes between an hour to twenty minutes. My new ritual is to practice the bass while the generator is charging the batteries, so the amp and cabin are electrified by the generator while charging. Don't tell me about solar cells. The thousands of dollars to match the amperage isn't practical at a remote cabin. A hundred dollar solar bank from harbor freight we bought will charge a battery maybe in about ten hours, IF you keep angling the panels to the sun, WHEN there's sun.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
We mix both. This was just a test to answer some questions about battery capacity and AC unit load. We also have an off grid cabin in the mountains of CO where there is no electric lines for miles. I use solar panels, wind power and multiple gas generators there. They all have a purpose. We did start with the generators because they were the cheapest to get going and produce the most reliable energy. We added solar and recently a wind turbine to cut down on the noise and gas usage. It's a balance.
@arvidlystnur4827
@arvidlystnur4827 13 күн бұрын
@@SeidelRanch , Thanks for your response. Perhaps I wasn't quite gracious in my comment. I might consider additional power sources other than gas generators in the future.
@PatricksDIY
@PatricksDIY Ай бұрын
You should research terms and subject matter more before making a video like this. Almost 80% of what you try to say or explain is incorrect. also the title should be changed to a pair of 100ah
@sladesmith6377
@sladesmith6377 Ай бұрын
He should also mention the fact that they're LiFePO4 in the title
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Can you explain what you mean? I am always open to learning from those more knowledgeable than myself. The point of the title is that you probably can't run an AC off of a 100ah battery unless it's one of the few that can peak over 250-300 amps.
@sladesmith6377
@sladesmith6377 Ай бұрын
@@SeidelRanch you shouldn't be running over 0.2C if you care about the health of batteries. Start from watts and work backwards. At 500W you would want at least a 2500Wh bank to be able to run this. None of this basic knowledge was mentioned in the video, you just said "it's at about 0.2C" but didn't explain what that means in lamens terms
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
@@sladesmith6377 Thanks. I tired to cover as much as I could without making a 2 hour video. There will always be things to pick at on anything. To my defence though, it was about how long would a small ac unit run on 100ah and not what's the best way to run this and how many batteries do you really need to do it best. Personally I would want way more batteries if I was going to run this ac all the time on battery. I have over 15 KWh of battery capacity in my RV now and I still want to double that just for a 1000 - 1500 watt average load.
@sladesmith6377
@sladesmith6377 Ай бұрын
@@SeidelRanch well the title is click bait nonetheless. That's ultimately where my problem stemmed from
@zizimai7568
@zizimai7568 26 күн бұрын
I believe you can run longer with invertor AC as the power draw is lesser.
@HutchinsonJC
@HutchinsonJC Ай бұрын
Based on title alone, I don't know... is it a 12v battery, 24v, 48v? Because Voltage * AmpHours = WattHours. Amps by itself tells us nothing.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Ah, yeah. I can add that.
@canyondan
@canyondan Ай бұрын
how long will 2 100 ah batteries run a 5000 BTU ac
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
See, that's why it's great. It answers that question too. 😂
@kf5hcr176
@kf5hcr176 29 күн бұрын
Figure four hours
@anandasmom
@anandasmom 21 күн бұрын
Verbosity is confusing sir. Babble
@JonDoe-cg4mr
@JonDoe-cg4mr 13 күн бұрын
Turn rhe fan on first. Lowers the surge
@RodThibault-qe4hu
@RodThibault-qe4hu 12 күн бұрын
You should of ran the inverter with positive lead on one battery and negative on the other battery
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 11 күн бұрын
Yeah, putting them in parallel would have probably helped but I was not thinking at the time. I wanted to show what one battery did on this unit.
@FewerOptions-mx7qt
@FewerOptions-mx7qt 2 күн бұрын
A 5000 btu AC is not going to surge to 4000w. Not even close a 15A house circuit can only handle 1800w
@onduhrhoads
@onduhrhoads 12 күн бұрын
Midea, you're welcome
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 11 күн бұрын
Yeah, I want one but this AC will not die. It just keeps going and going. I want a new inverter window unit.
@user-rz9zx9fk1e
@user-rz9zx9fk1e 22 күн бұрын
If you had a 1000 watts of solar you could run it and charge the battery
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 19 күн бұрын
That is true, if the sun is good. We have solar on the RV and I can run the AC units and still charge the batteries if the sun is nice and clear.
@jyesucevitz
@jyesucevitz 16 күн бұрын
in the trade they're called "window shakers." also, 200 is not 100 like the title shows.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
True, but the intent was to try and do it with 100, but it would not work on this one. I am going to try it again with a better setup and see if I can get 1 battery to do it.
@PhilLesh69
@PhilLesh69 20 күн бұрын
Instead of a second battery, couldn't you use a few one farad or larger capacitors?
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 19 күн бұрын
I could, but I don't currently have any. I am looking into that now to try a setup with them.
@servicetech2909
@servicetech2909 18 күн бұрын
Also check wire size
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 18 күн бұрын
That I will be doing. These are the lead wires that came with the inverter, but I do think they are too small and may help the batteries handle the peak draw better.
@The0ldg0at
@The0ldg0at 21 күн бұрын
Why don't you just put a supercapacitor in parallel with the battery to take care of the surges?
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 19 күн бұрын
I don't have one, but want to get one and try that. I hear those really help take the heavy draw off of the batteries and help them last longer. Looking for a good one now.
@thomassheppard2690
@thomassheppard2690 29 күн бұрын
amperage
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Yeah. My brain and mouth don't link up well.
@lesliewood3616
@lesliewood3616 29 күн бұрын
Thumbnail not true😢
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
How? That is literally an auto generated KZbin thumbnail from the video itself, unedited.
@Mprikiman
@Mprikiman 17 күн бұрын
You can resolve the surge with high power capacitors in parallel with the battery. Just sayin'...
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
I plan on trying that soon. Keep an eye on the channel for that video.
@mindfornication4funn
@mindfornication4funn 29 күн бұрын
Ur typical window-shaker
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Yeah, but I have to say that thing has been more reliable than my central system.
@woodennichols100
@woodennichols100 24 күн бұрын
Volts times amps equals watts
@GeneHays-h4f
@GeneHays-h4f 6 күн бұрын
The inverter is the problem when starting that AC. The battery can handle up to 100 amp discharge, which is way more than the spike caused by starting the compressor. This guy is misinformed.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 3 күн бұрын
100 amps at 12 volts = 1200 watts. The startup has been over 2000 watts many times.
@ELI-zi1kl
@ELI-zi1kl 24 күн бұрын
Just put an audio capacitor on battery about a 2 farad 12v
@ELI-zi1kl
@ELI-zi1kl 24 күн бұрын
Will help with start and run
@louf7178
@louf7178 28 күн бұрын
The word is amperage. And especially, not "ecspecially". Jeez. Thanks for the demonstration.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Сағат бұрын
English is my second language.
@garyweber7139
@garyweber7139 29 күн бұрын
Keep in mind Haier is a Chinese product, I really doubt that you're getting 5,000 btu. It's most likely 3,500 btu or so. Chinese made batteries also seldom produce the amp hours they claim, sometimes dramatically less.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Aren't they all made in China?
@user-yi2sd6mh9w
@user-yi2sd6mh9w 22 күн бұрын
​@@SeidelRanchfriedrich,, IS Made in. U.S.A. VERY ENERGY EFFCIENT. AND LASTS FOREVER. EXPENSIVE THOUGH
@zr7699
@zr7699 22 күн бұрын
Capacitor bank
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
Next on my list. I have not played with them, but they look cool.
@MrAaron117x
@MrAaron117x 21 күн бұрын
Great video! Too much rambling on though…
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 21 күн бұрын
Thanks. Yeah, I talk a little too much. That is with a lot cut out. The crazy thing is I hear comments both ways; You talk too much or you don't explain it enough. Thanks for the feedback though.
@MrAaron117x
@MrAaron117x 21 күн бұрын
@@SeidelRanch I myself am a rambler 😂. I’m definitely NOT trying to be an ass hole I promise!!
@supremeautomotive6749
@supremeautomotive6749 26 күн бұрын
AmpeRage it has a R in it amp rage not ampers lol
@georget.2224
@georget.2224 20 күн бұрын
Too much talking for 14 minutes...
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 19 күн бұрын
What? Never can be too much.
@WillKlaver
@WillKlaver Ай бұрын
.. i have never seen a small ac unit Surge to Four Thousand, running Full Bore they only use 400 Watts or so .. more like Six Hundred at most ..
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 29 күн бұрын
Running, yes. It will run well below 1000 watts. Compressor start up though gets in the 2000-3000 watts range on this AC. Others I have are close but lower, some more like 1500 watts.
@WillKlaver
@WillKlaver 29 күн бұрын
@@SeidelRanch .. no it won't, but Whatever .. 🙄🚫
@mick00000000002
@mick00000000002 25 күн бұрын
Sorry thumps down this time.
@supremeautomotive6749
@supremeautomotive6749 26 күн бұрын
Amperage not ampage
@marcknab7456
@marcknab7456 11 күн бұрын
Is that a cardboard box there lmao.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 11 күн бұрын
We can't all have that fancy IKEA furniture like the rich folk.
@mgtowski395
@mgtowski395 28 күн бұрын
Anyone do a DC motor test?
@mick00000000002
@mick00000000002 25 күн бұрын
Yes why not worth it
@mick00000000002
@mick00000000002 25 күн бұрын
6.00 min in
@rp9674
@rp9674 Ай бұрын
2x 100ah - 4.75 hr. 1 200ah 2 hr
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
If you meant "2x 100ah - 4.75 hr. 1x 100ah - 2 hr", then yes. The 2 batteries will help with the surge and get more out of the battery. I am now playing with my batteries to see which one(s) I have that will run this by themselves. Not many will but I think I have one or two that surge pretty high.
@rp9674
@rp9674 Ай бұрын
Great work, solar & battery to run AC and maybe a refrigerator, emergency coverage & money saving - the ultimate smaller off grid system
@stanleybest8833
@stanleybest8833 24 күн бұрын
Running a giant air conditioner when the sun is not part of the equation is foolish.
@supremeautomotive6749
@supremeautomotive6749 26 күн бұрын
Your battery cables are way to small and long to run ac like that. If it had correct cable size and connections it would work with 1 battery. This guy should not being doing videos and spreading miss information.
@dennisdickinson8337
@dennisdickinson8337 Ай бұрын
Ohm's law 100@12=10@120
@Fatpumpumlovah2
@Fatpumpumlovah2 4 күн бұрын
Bruh. Learn math! Save u time. Battery voltage x Amp hous = watt hour capacity! Divide that number by the wattage ur ac unit uses and get run time!! Eg. 12 volts x 100ah = 1200 watt hours. Ac unit if using 250 watts after start then you have just close to 5 hours ( not taking into acct the effi iency of your inverter) Its not ricket science just simple math which americans think is racist these days. 4000 watts to start a 5000btu 120v window unit lololol Back to school for you
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for your wonderful insight.
@samcathcart2770
@samcathcart2770 21 күн бұрын
Click bait. Claims 100ah won't work and so he refuses to even try.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 21 күн бұрын
Huh? I literally try the one battery at the beginning of the video. Did you even watch it?
@gregoryrodolico6635
@gregoryrodolico6635 16 күн бұрын
This guy talks too much and doesn't get to the point
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
You know you secretly like to hear me talk. That backwoods Texas gibberish has you hypnotized.
@supremeautomotive6749
@supremeautomotive6749 26 күн бұрын
Lol 😆 it wont fire up and beeps because you have crap cables. I guarantee if you get correct wires or double up your wires. Also never use jumper cables to run ac unit or high power appliances. Do the test with correct wires. You are spreading miss information
@georgesmith4314
@georgesmith4314 22 күн бұрын
“Ampage”!!??….the English word is “Amperage”
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
English is my second language. Gibberish I am fluent in.
@mustangracer5124
@mustangracer5124 21 күн бұрын
Ifs ands and disclaimers all show long and nor results
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 13 күн бұрын
What? This is over 10 minutes of pure entertainment joy. Get your popcorn and watch in amazement.
@lpaterson6735
@lpaterson6735 19 күн бұрын
Talk talk what's the watts
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 19 күн бұрын
It's all there in the video.
@chrislivesinreality8245
@chrislivesinreality8245 20 күн бұрын
LOL, ampage? Its actually called ampERage.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 19 күн бұрын
Thanks. I have smarts real good.
@servicetech2909
@servicetech2909 18 күн бұрын
Your inverter is too small
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 18 күн бұрын
Eyes up here please.
@danrandall794
@danrandall794 18 күн бұрын
So your answer to your misleading headline is zero.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 18 күн бұрын
It's not misleading. I answer that question in the video.
@danrandall794
@danrandall794 18 күн бұрын
Yes you did and it is exactly what I said and the answer is zero hours.
@mnight207
@mnight207 19 күн бұрын
9 minutes in "enough talking about this
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, 10 minutes would have been too much.
@servicetech2909
@servicetech2909 18 күн бұрын
Get a bigger inverter
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch 18 күн бұрын
The inverter can handle it, just not all of the 100ah batteries can by themselves.
@aday1637
@aday1637 Ай бұрын
Hey dude, find out what you're talking about before doing a test. Not the battery that can't take the start up amperage. It's the inverter and possibly the bms in the battery. Understand the 100 a/h means the storage capability not the amp draw. That a/c runs on a 15 amp breaker, well below 100 amps. The 100 a/h means 100 amps for an hour (or 50 amps for 2 hours or 25 amps for 4 hours and so on) not the amp draw of a device.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
What are you even saying here? The inverter dropped out because the battery was not providing the needed amperage for it to power the AC. I feel like this video may apply to you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/goKmhmZspdB7bcU
@brianOcurradhin
@brianOcurradhin Ай бұрын
At 8.45 he says it!!!!
@aday1637
@aday1637 Ай бұрын
Lithium iron phosphate (LFP) is 12.8 volts. Times 100 amps = 1280 watts for an hour. Me thinks this fellow needs some electrical school learning.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) has an average voltage of 12.8. At the average it's rated at, 100ah does equal 1280wh. I thinks you fella need to know what you are talking about before correcting someone else.
@timcat1004
@timcat1004 Ай бұрын
"5000 watt" WTF
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
That was a verbal typo. Give me a break man. I forgot to cut that out.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 Ай бұрын
He meant 5,000 BTU.
@steverturnsk6190
@steverturnsk6190 Ай бұрын
@@SeidelRanch These scallywags are ruthless! Thanks for the test.
@louf7178
@louf7178 28 күн бұрын
@@SeidelRanch I must add, it's not a verbal "typo" (typo is for typewriting); it's simply a spoken error.
@jdub1922
@jdub1922 Ай бұрын
Kinda irrational. We need the amps per hour.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
That is in the video. The monitor is right on top of the battery.
@timcat1004
@timcat1004 Ай бұрын
Amateur. What a joke.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
Really? Can your cat do this better? I think not.
@timcat1004
@timcat1004 Ай бұрын
@@SeidelRanch I have a 12,000 BTU mini-split running 100% off grid. My thumb down still stands.
@SeidelRanch
@SeidelRanch Ай бұрын
@@timcat1004 Congrats. And I was just kidding, your cat probably can do better. I do have my 5th wheel RV running off grid using 15 kwh of lifepo4 batteries and 1800 watts of solar. That said, I am not an expert nor claim to be.
@dmo848
@dmo848 Ай бұрын
​@@SeidelRanch🤣😂 funk the haters u did great. Something i actually wanted to know. Thank u sir
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