Arrma Typhon TLR vs Losi 8ight RTR - Which is BEST??

[@NathanStorer-RC]

I'd go with the Losi. For me, the sensored motor holds a lot of weight. I really love the smooth startup of a sensored motor. I'm not an 8th scale racer, so having a ton of tuning options isn't really a big deal. It would be nice to have it be waterproof, but I have other waterproof vehicles and so long as the battery is out, and capacitors are discharged, you should be able to rinse dirt off (just make sure it's fully dried before putting batteries back in).

[@RoadsideRC]

Solid point! I really want the Arrma buggy - but to use the newer Hobbywing Max8 ESC-motor combo that is sensored and waterproof. Best of both worlds!

[@tampaboosted251]

Very well put together, lots of info and even about replacement parts!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@polkatit]

I just picked up the Losi RTR. Tyting to get started into racing and this one felt like a perfect entry level bugy to get my feet wet. I have an OG typhon 6s that i love but i dont feel like it would be as competitive at the track. If i was planning on bashing only, i would 100% go with the typhon. the 6s power and proven strong platform is great. For racing, it has to be the Losi.

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! I am curious how it does on-track!

[@curtispinherio8575]

its a no brainer , LOSI All day you would never want an un sensored motor if your planning on any type of racing !

[@rcchronicles25]

Fantastic comparison video 👌 My heart says take the Arrma, but my head says the Losi. It's a tricky one

[@RoadsideRC]

I agree - I am torn as well, but think I would go Arrma.

[@jasonrhodes9726]

Its simple. Losi drivers think they are ready to turn pro and Arrma buyers drive full speed into trees, curbs, fire hydrants, parked cars....

[@BINE.P]

It's always a great pleasure to watch your videos. I really enjoyed it.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you very much!

[@gillian9178]

Razor RC done a shoot out between these 2 buggys a couple of weeks back, check out his thoughts. Basically both good buggys, he said the TLR Typhon was better if your looking for a basher buggy with capability towards some racing. Also the Typhon was more beginner friendly & a bit easier to drive, where as the Losi was not as durable. More suited to racing + more difficult to drive for less experienced drivers, a bit on the twitchy side. Unless you want a more dedecated race buggy, his pick would be the TLR Typhon.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! I didn't see that video.

[@RCenal]

They both hold their weight

[@RC-Closer1313]

I built my Typhon TLR roller not too long ago. I went stupid nuts crazy on upgrading it though when I probably didn’t need too. I have no regrets now… it’s bad to the bone and back 🦴💨 … it was cool just after the 2250kv sensored castle /momba x8 esc and high end Tekin servo…smooth as a whistle with all the toys. Try a Tekin servo, you’ll love it! Anyway, my 3s Typhon is pretty dang upgraded as well with a new 👀 look too… so yeah mate… TLR👍🏻

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! Glad to hear you like them!

[@nathancunningham8717]

Just got the Arrma TLR Roller. Max8 G2s with sensored 4268 motor. Afgrc 40kg servo, Flysky NB4+ & 8ch RX. Titanium & carbonfiber upgrades , Scorched front & rear hubs, Ramjam & PPS parts also. Love it nicest RC buggy I've owned not bashing very hard and wanted more of a track car for yrs. Very happy got Roller for $349 off Amazon

[@RoadsideRC]

Sounds like a fun grouping of parts there!

[@lexchsn1]

dam bro, that’s a solid build🔥🔥

[@nathancunningham8717]

Turned out really nice. Just replaced all diffs with Arrma metal version and upgraded all 3 & added RJ diff cups. Changed bearings all to Avid Ceramic Revolutions and changed to Tekno pinion gear. Just got Proline Axis body so I'm working on paint design and I'm gonna try to paint something decent.

[@Virgin4lyfe420]

I had the same decision to make a couple weeks ago I went with the Losi because it is strictly going on tracks only no bashing (couldn’t afford to build the kit so went with rtr) and I love it the main thing that made me go with it was that it takes 4s and that’s what everyone races I am surprised at the lack of tunability on the losi but the tlr shock towers are relatively cheap if you need the extra tuning

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice! Both vehicles will run on 4S - just because the Arrma is a 6S model doesn't mean that is what it is limited to. I will be curious if there is any parts compatibility between the two vehicles - like the shock tower you mentioned! Interesting!

[@Virgin4lyfe420]

@@RoadsideRC oh I thought that was the 3s version well either way I’m happy with my purchase 😂

[@alexaguilar1668]

Id like to see content on both. Especially the Armma

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! I appreciate that feedback.

[@dmanalang9037]

I would choose TLR Typhon too but wait for it to go on sale at Horizon, its usually about $100 off for the RTR. TLR Typhon because of more suspension adjustability and itll be more bash worthy since its an ARRMA.

[@RoadsideRC]

Great point! Horizon does discount them quite regularly!

[@MarshaCusters]

I have them both. And for me is the tyfhon a really winner. The material that Losi used is crep. It look likes the plastic is made from gingerbread. When all the 4 wheels turn it drives nice. But nothing is better than the TLR

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@Purple_0690]

The Typhon TLR Tuned is the way it goes

[@RoadsideRC]

I think so as well!

[@flywam1955]

Any good 1/10 RTR race options? My local tracks are too small for 1/8.

[@RoadsideRC]

1/10 racing seems to be a segment where the RTRs just haven't encroached. If you want to race in 1/10, you will end up buying the kits and building them up. There just doesn't seem to be another path at the moment. I would suggest visiting the track and seeing what chassis others are running and starting there.

[@phmaximus]

I would have liked you to talk about what people are using at the track and how both fear on a competition level.

[@RoadsideRC]

Me too! The tracks don't use RTRs, they use kits. Mostly Tekno.

[@mikescherrer4923]

Couple guys in my local club started with the TLR tuned, it didn't take long for them to sell them and upgrade to HB's. They turned decent laps but the weight distribution and suspension tuning envelopes are not great. The diffs seemed to not hold up as well as a real race grade model, too. Sensorless drivetrains are also useless on track, both guys I know had hobbywing Xerun 1900 combos. They work ok for beginners, but for the money at the track I'd skip it and get a real kit.

[@mini-z_me]

I'd get the Losi, as it would be great to have my first sensored motor in an 1/8 scale buggy. Besides, I already have the TLR Typhon ;)

[@RoadsideRC]

That makes sense to me!

[@mika_models]

You can find Arrma parts almost everywhere, I’m not so sure about Losi. Aftermarket parts, huge difference as you mentioned in the video. You already know the problems with Arrma and you can solve those problems before you start driving. Losi is newer and that’s why people don’t have that much experience with it and it problems. Yes, Losi sounds very interesting but in this case my opinion will be Arrma.

[@RoadsideRC]

I think that is the best answer - for sure. But...I still am interested in the Losi. :)

[@mika_models]

@@mikescherrer4923 Race car? I have only race car for drifting. And yes, I use aftermarket parts in it. Many of those are much cheaper than original parts and sometimes quality is also better.

[@JamesBond-hz2tn]

I'm a fan of each of them but I would get the losi 👌

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! What tips it in that direction for you?

[@JamesBond-hz2tn]

@RoadsideRC to me it looks more like a race buggy

[@Storyracing387]

Since both my Tekno race cars have the same electronics as the Typhon, I would say the Typhon. BUT I would probably ditch the radio, the servo, the gears, and the body lol. As you said, I'd really like to get my hands on the Losi!

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! Surprised to hear someone put Spektrum stuff in a Tekno. Working well for you?

[@Storyracing387]

@RoadsideRC it is working well. If I had known this version of the electronics were coming out, I would have picked them up. Mine have the two battery plugs, the only thing I'm not a fan of. The programing of them is the best part.

[@Dirk_T_13]

Got the Losi, had the same issue of a couple of diff puddles in the box. Hoping that’s the only QC issue I come across.

[@RoadsideRC]

Good luck! I hope it is great for you!

[@V8chump]

Losi parts are hard to find for my losi tenacity DBpro which makes me worry about future parts support for these but…. My tenacity is so damn tough I never have issues with it outside of a leaky shock after a hard track day though. Hard to know what the future holds though

[@RoadsideRC]

Agree - I had a DB Pro as well. Kind of sorry I sold it, loved that buggy!

[@robertdahlgren3886]

I just bought the TLR tuned roller.

[@RoadsideRC]

A solid choice!

[@yonicozac]

You've made a mistake regarding the diff gears on the Losi being cheaper, you referenced an old (dust metal) 19$ part from 8 years ago, and while the Arrma ring+pinion is 35$, the correct Losi part is 46$.. So the Arrma is cheaper all around.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the correction!

[@SteveNavarro-qc3vl]

So the losi xe replacement parts are listed under tlr xe 2.0. Also its platform is based off newer tlr xe 2.0 NOT the older versions..

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the tip!

[@Jose-Ramos-Jr]

Would the arrma tlr shock towers fit on the losi?

[@RoadsideRC]

Looking at the pictures side=by-side, I do not think so. They are a different mounting design.

[@Jose-Ramos-Jr]

@RoadsideRC thanks. I was just wondering seeing how at the end of the day, they are both horizon hobbies so I was thinking they would share some of the same parts or be interchangeable

[@robertshelton2605]

I got the TLR tuned Arrma Roller. it was $275. Then got the Hobbywing EZrun MAX8G2s combo with the 4268 motor. The Perfect Pass Servo. And NB4+ remote. Setup is Awesome. Total price not counting the remote, because I already had it, was about $700. It's a 4s setup. I thought 6s would be too much, plus the 6s motor hangs outside the chassis and I didn't like that.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes - I think for some folks, going the roller route makes a lot more sense....especially if you already have parts laying around! But - RTR is where most of the market goes, so that is why I focused in on these two.

[@Shreddylife]

I have been trying to decide what 1/8 scale 4wd buggy to get here soon. It was between the Typhon TRL and add my own parts, the Losi 8ight-XE RTR or the Kyosho Inferno MP10e RTR. I still can't decide lol

[@RoadsideRC]

It really is tough! In my area - Kyosho is really rare, so getting parts is harder. I really like the Losi design - but think I would probably go with the Arrma.

[@mikescherrer4923]

If you want real track performance go with the Kyosho.

[@SleekHobbies88]

Awesome review,both great vehicles,but agree arrma

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks 👍

[@RC4X4]

If your gonna race it I would do the Losi. For just having fun and some bashing I would do the Arrma. I have three Arrma's. You can't go wrong. I'll probably get a Losi next spring.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@Puertorrican_Power]

OMG why it is so hard to bring something different than Arrma and Losi to the mix. Still waiting for somebody to add the Kyosho MP10E Rtr

[@RoadsideRC]

Fun idea!

[@christianhvidt6823]

First of all the spare-parts must be available at your local hobby-shop,before you even buy the car,and thats an issue in scandinavia sometimes..the typhons is no problem tho..either the TLR or blx version ,so ill stick for that..at least for now.👍😉so my choice here would be typhon TLR!

[@RoadsideRC]

Makes sense to me. Thanks!

[@gillian9178]

You have the waterproof electronics listed wrong, you have the Losi sensored system as waterproof on your spec sheet. You have the Arrma electronics as not waterproof, both nice buggys though.

[@RoadsideRC]

Doh! I really screwed that up, didn't I? Argh.

[@franklee6301]

Losi. Watch this again and you'll see you went in wanting the arrma. It's a skewed review. The armma parts are far more expensive but you gave it to arrma. Tlr has support that's just as widespread. The wing is $14 and available on Losi's website. A race buggy doesn't need to be washed with water if you have an air compressor. Losi, no question.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for your viewpoint! The wing wasn't available when I looked, as I said. Glad it is available now. Where you are wrong - I actually really wanted the Losi, but did the research after a friend suggested I really look at the differences.

[@iannjadejones1982]

Well I am in the same boat …the losi is hard to get parts for … the arms tlr far as arms steering blocks rear blocks the arrma blx typhon are the same .. gonna be racing in crossville in April

[@RoadsideRC]

Good luck! The RC Farm is a blast - I hope you enjoy it!

[@iannjadejones1982]

@ you still go there and race

[@RoadsideRC]

@@iannjadejones1982 Not very often - I need to get back out there!

[@iannjadejones1982]

@ yeah l hope to see you there and which buggy are you running

[@RoadsideRC]

@iannjadejones1982 I never picked one up! We still have an old worn-out version of the Typhon.

[@todd5060]

I think it’s Arrma for the win here. Not sure why the 23 tooth servo though.

[@RoadsideRC]

I agree - and was surprised! The 23 tooth servo is a Spektrum thing. Really frustrating.

[@ruuster83]

i went with a Tekno eb48.3. it was pretty ragged out but new bearings and arms arent too expensive, on top of the roller for $250 im still sitting pretty w my castle 1515 combo in there

[@ruuster83]

Its still way lighter than the TLR typhon , and a freeaking TANK, i think its more durable than my tyhons 3s and 6s

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! In my area, Tekno seems like the best choice overall!

[@tatebaumann7691]

Losi wing is part number los240026. 15.99 Took less than 30 seconds to find.

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad you found it! When I looked on AMain - it was not listed.

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

If I was gonna get either one of those it would most likely be the Losi... the body half painted is sweet, the Typhon bodys just look odd... but, if i was getting an 8th scale buggy I honestly wouldn't get either... for bashing I'd not get a buggy at all...for racing I'd be looking elsewhere... The Losi is compatible with other parts from the non-RTR version, so that would be one route, in the long run a bit spendy.... but, the motor and ESC should be fine on that car unless you end up getting to where you're quite competitve.... sensored is definitely the way to go for racing. Theres a Kyosho rtr put that also looks legit, and is compatible with the MP10 current race kit for parts... I'd get either that or the losi over the Typhon.... maybe check that RTR option out. Honestly, how serious are you about trying racing? I'd recomend looking locally for a used race kit, Tekno are awesom, and X-ray , those 2 are popular here in my area... recent new model of Tekno released and Xray doing new cars yearly, theres likely an EV48 2.0 or 2.1 for cheap near you, or a 2023 XB8... You should have a radio and charger already... Keep us posted what u end up deciding, or if you start considering other options maybe make a follow up to this while you narrow it down, and let us know what you're considering given the feedback from this one...

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the thoughtful feedback! A follow-up is a great idea - thanks again!

[@iannjadejones1982]

Yeah I got a tekno paper weight I bought used … go new with anything you buy… usually if you buy used got to replace everything cuz it’s ragged out

[@TestECull]

Easy choice for me, between those two buggies, and it's the Losi. Because nitro. The Losi comes in a nitro version, the Arrma doesn't, and I am 100% full throttle on nitro. Electric just doesn't do anything for me. But I have no interest in another 1/8 buggy. I have an NB48 2.0 already.And I barely drive it. I can count on one hand the amount of times it's run in 2024. If we cross paths again and I have it with me I'll let you give it a rip I think you'll love it! And hey I might even be talked into selling you the NB48....maybe. If I was going to sell any of my RCs it's on the shortlist. Not actively looking to sell but I could probably be talked into it. If I did sell, it would be receiver ready; I'm keeping my Futaba air receiver that I have in it.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes - no doubt that you are the nitro man!

[@TestECull]

@@RoadsideRC I am serious about giving you some stick time oj my tekno buggy by the by! os 30vg pulls like a freight train haha

[@shawnrichardson118]

I’m all about the LOSI hands down I have a 8ight that I have bashed pretty hard and I have never been disappointed 🤘✌️

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! Thanks for the feedback!

[@RCenal]

I like losi I have both losi and arrma My typhon 6s has not broken in the 4 years I've had it The losi vehicles I have are 6th scale and 5th scale And they are pretty damn tough still So I really like both myself

[@shawnrichardson118]

@@RCenal I have a losi 8ight I have had it for 15 years I probably have 15 gallons on the original motor 😂

[@ZingZingNZ]

Wings are from jconcepts and bettydesings or any brand. You change wings like tyres

[@RoadsideRC]

Of course! Since this is a RTR, I assumed the general user would want to put the Losi wing back on there.

[@danielbaugher1798]

ide pic the typhon. it handles great even with the stock tires i was keeping up with tekno buggys when i could string a few good laps together. im sure the losi handles great to but based on the tenacity and the 4 different Losi ray platform vehicles I've had and my friends lmt ive worked on, expect every single diff to blow. ill give the lmt a pass cus we put 6s in it but all the other ones broke 2-3 diffs each on 2s. 2 of them in less than one battery.

[@RoadsideRC]

Makes sense to me!

[@rudiperez5315]

My tlr typhoon came with the 655 same as Losi - you had the old electronics

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice! That is better!

[@ruuster83]

i prefer the slt3 for most of my bashers, its comfortable and AVC is not needed for 4wd

[@RoadsideRC]

Agree!

[@ruuster83]

The Arrma would be fun by yourself but the Losi can be instantly competitive at a track day. i think the arrmas gonna be 1-2 seconds slower just from the extra weight and that wont be so fun getting whooped up on

[@RoadsideRC]

I couldn't find a good source for accurate weight data. Looking at the vehicles side-by-side, I am not sure if the Arrma really is that much heavier. I agree though - that would be a big deal.

[@ruuster83]

@@RoadsideRC To be fair, im still getting whooped with the Tekno, but im closer to the main group. Casual track day, no real racing but they have tekno 2.0s , 2.1s, and Losis

[@iannjadejones1982]

Also roach rc did a video on it and was running against a tekno neck to neck racing

[@SkunkCity_RC]

my rtr tlr came with the s665 amd 25t horn

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! I wonder if they changed it. How long ago did you get it?

[@Madmiker83]

End of July S655 25t Europe CZ

[@ericleong1453]

Arrma the best overall❤

[@1sickgsx]

You said you wanted to step up to a more race oriented buggy. Arrma will always be a basher IMO. I don't often see typhons on podiums. For this comparison I'd go Losi. Race oriented. Sensored. If you go Arrma you're going to upgrade to a sensored setup anyways. Heck, you're an RC guy, so you're still going to upgrade the Losi, and who cares about radios cuz you have better. I think if you're honest and admit you're probably going to upgrade the stock motor regardless of vehicle, you're doing a disservice to yourself by not checking out the team associated buggy. Yes it's a bit more expensive to begin with, but you aren't wasting money on a stock non sensored trash for racing setup in the arrma and the servos will be replaced anyways, the price difference shrinks and the Associated becomes a much stronger value. Especially if you're wanting race oriented over bash.

[@RoadsideRC]

That all makes sense! Truly wanting to go fast - get a proper race kit. But, the bulk of the RC market is RTRs, and I think the owners of these may also be interested in occasionally going to the track. Personally - that is where I am as well right now. 70% bash sessions, 30% having fun at the track. To have fun, I don't necessarily need to be the fastest. I get a lot of satisfaction by beating folks with "lesser" vehicles. :)

[@BloodyCactus]

tlr tuned roller and put my own sensored esc/motor/servo and avoid the hobbywing esc/motor/servo! lol

[@RoadsideRC]

That is also a solid choice!

[@alexaguilar1668]

Buy both. Start with Armma and then get a losi later

[@RoadsideRC]

Clearly the best solution! :)

[@billyhernandez3811]

Arrma ur right

[@JVGmidi]

I have the losi it’s the best

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! Thanks for the feedback

[@billyb5057]

interesting comparisons mate everything covered *🌞have a cool weekend🔆👍like☑full view✅🥸Au🦘*

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you 👍

[@themountain59]

I would get a Caster ETO 821😉..better shocks,better tires, better chassis and 100$ cheaper than both of those.

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! I have not heard of Caster before. Looks like a solid buggy! It also does appear to be a kit, not a RTR, so the price is hard to compare.

[@leigholding1397]

C Hub vs pillow ball

[@RoadsideRC]

Good point!

[@nunocarneiro464]

Buy them both 😂😂

[@RoadsideRC]

Clearly the best solution!

[@dosbrosphotos.]

Arrma all day. Until aftermarket support gets better.

[@RoadsideRC]

That does make sense!

[@SteveNavarro-qc3vl]

Losi 💯

[@frederickgrassie3383]

TLR all the way!!😅

[@marcthomas6307]

Tlr rollers are cheap. get a castle system and a 50$ servo. your in it for less than 6. plus when you race it people recognize it and give you props. i race Tekno but have a tlr as a backup and run practice with it a lot. its heavy. but almost unbreakable . parts from jennys are cheap af. plus the compatibility on the arrma 6s platform . its a no brainer.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the tip! This video is really focused on the folks out there who want to start with a RTR. There are a lot who want to open the box and go have fun!

[@claytonscott5206]

I would like to c a novice r intermediate class developed around arrma and traxxas Redcat and different brands 😊what's not considered high end racing platforms for the that people that loves the hobby To be a part of for racing and bashing

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! Some ability to come and have fun with a RTR!

[@mikescherrer4923]

Take them both to the track and see if there is any question... One is for actual competition and the other is for kids to repeatedly break and "upgrade" hitting concrete ramps at a skate park. Not even in the same conversation. In moderately skilled hands the Losi will literally run laps around the Arrma. 😂

[@RoadsideRC]

I would have thought the same thing - until I started looking at the specs and design!

[@timmy4539]

Nice cars but unless they sell them at the $ store I can't afford them .

[@RoadsideRC]

They are not cheap - that is for sure!

[@johnDavis-c9u]

over the years of racing lot of different brands has come along but Losi was always there durango was popular for a short time where are they now. loststill around

[@RoadsideRC]

Losi is certainly strong! If I remember correctly, didn't Arrma start by buying the Durango lineup?

[@mr.aguinaldo8290]

Typhon

[@raven5347]

Dude, if you are thinking about a buggy get a Tekno. Get it, goto tekno rc buy sell trade. find a roller. dont hesitae!

[@RoadsideRC]

I do agree that Tekno seems the best all around. But - so many folks want a RTR to get started, which is why it was the focus of this video. Thanks for the feedback!

[@raven5347]

@@RoadsideRC Ya, I forget you have to make content for what people want…Especially, the newbies!

[@MacSide01]

Losi