Actually i’ve done the same test and had the same results! Bronco tire dead last, Defender tires are much better (and softer) At the end my set of Injora’s MT (at 2.44in) are incredible! With the metal beadlocks AND wheel weight i can climb a 45 degrees wood incline with the Defender body and 52 degrees with the Bronco one. Great video, thanks for all these infos!
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, and glad to hear the results are the same..
@themuddydrifter135 Жыл бұрын
I found that after cutting both sets of stock tires and modifying them to be more aggressive that the BFGs actually are better than the canyon trails
@michaelevans481 Жыл бұрын
Bronco are great for high speed gearing.
@2mnetrix Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video to settle an argument here. Now I win and my kids owe me a new set of tires!
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Tires are always a great upgrade!
@mack_solo Жыл бұрын
SOLID work, good findings! 👍 Another thing to consider running outdoors is the environmental conditions - let the tires sit in the sun for half an hour in summer time and they will literary become sticky (there is a vid somewhere of a guy having hard times (😜) with tires and batteries in a frosty winter morning).
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
That is a good point, thanks!
@jesseblamey6494 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for this. Tires can be a game changer 100% and its tough to choose sometimes. The Injora AT & Injora MT were absolutely amazing tires. I'll be ordering some.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
They have been doing great for me!
@fernsolo Жыл бұрын
I've tried running my TRX4M without the body and bumpers and it's impressive even in stock form, great video man 👍
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
100%!!! So much better without the body!
@SD_AH Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have the mud terrains you tested in the video. They work awesome with wheel weights and when you install all the injora brass parts (just did this today and it makes a huge difference with all the added front end weight).. added the steering link, caster, steering blocks and swapped all the bearings… took a while but so worth it!!!
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! I have some of those parts on my workbench!
@fryie130 Жыл бұрын
with the injora's glue the vent hole shut and take the foam out and the traction is insane!
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Interesting tip! Thanks!
@IowaBudgetRCBashers Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video Troy. Merry Christmas my friend
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@tristar3005 Жыл бұрын
I have those same new Injora all terrain tires on my Defender, they are a serious game changer
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@S5UPERCHARGED Жыл бұрын
Good to see a video on these injora AT tyres, I'm waiting for them to be delivered and wasn't sure if I made the right decision but looks like it was a good choice!
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Yes! A good choice for sure!
@freshgt1 Жыл бұрын
thanks bro i have the bronco and i just ordered theMT
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@disposablehuman1776 Жыл бұрын
Just replaced all the drive train bushings with sealed bearings from INJORA and the Defender is a lot smoother. Getting my crawler gears this week and will do the rest of the bearings. Have a set of INJORA beadlocks with RC4WD mudslingers and 5 mm spacers. Need some weight on the front end and I I think it’ll crawl much better.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
I have the bearing set sitting on my workbench!!
@disposablehuman1776 Жыл бұрын
I noticed a difference cornering, I’m debating to do the Furitech motor swap, I have it in my SCX24 and love it. I’ll see how the low gear set does first hoping it has that extra torque.
@michaeldorich4485 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy videos where more budget conscientious products do well. I don't know much of anything about crawling. But, it appears to me a light body is an asset when climbing and bigger tires are sometimes the same. If you're going out on the trails without any difficult crawling scale bodies look cool and perform well. But, your demonstration crawl without a body seems to demonstrate lighter is better.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Yes! Lighter is always better!!!
@michaeldorich4485 Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC That's what I thought. I am always surprised when people say that this or. that crawler is really good because it's a hard plastic body. Look at the Axial Base Camp with a light weight body and it performs well. As you know in on road racing there are light weight or extra light for bodies races. Are there times in crawling where smaller tires are better?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldorich4485 Yes! Too much tire is a bad thing. After you get to a certain height, you are just increasing your center of gravity. You will see most folks stick to the 1.9" wheel and 4.75" tire - seems a happy medium on tire size.
@michaeldorich4485 Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC Thank you.
@chrismoniz5898 Жыл бұрын
This is the best KZbin channel I found for rc thanks brother for showing us all this cool stuff happy holidays 😀 😎
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays! Thank you!
@strapped_6159 Жыл бұрын
Been dealing with the minis for little over a year. When i opened my defender i just new that was going to be a contender. I now have them mounted to my scx24 comp build 🤣
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@wheelsdownrc6348 Жыл бұрын
I’m in it for the on road bro but I always enjoy your videos 💯👍
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@rcjoe406 Жыл бұрын
I switched the defender tires to my bronco its perfect
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Makes sense!
@adamshaffer1587 Жыл бұрын
Both and your tires are based off of Voodoo KLR tread designs. The KLR/m are absolutely my favorite tires in 1.9s and if I get one of those TRX4M's I'm probably going to get the enjoy KLR/m style tires
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@JayJacksRC Жыл бұрын
Love the content man keep up the videos thanks for all you do and all the info you share!❤
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@JayJacksRC Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC I am going to link your channel on a few of my pages online if that is okay?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
@@JayJacksRC I guess so - not sure what the implications are.
@islandrc-duke1972 Жыл бұрын
Great video and tire test
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@backshedrc Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. We are still running the Canyon Trails on our Defenders. Once the snow melts maybe we will try some new rubber 😉
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
The Canyon Trails are good!!!
@jrtate1123 Жыл бұрын
Great video brother!🤙🏽🙌🏽
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@miketoney683 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had great luck with the Micky Thompson tires, nice upgrade from the stock BFG tires on the Bronco. I have also upgraded just about every part available for the Bronco including the brass weighted accessories, made a huge difference in being able to crawl up obstacles.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Great! Glad they work for you!
@rigomartinez6678 Жыл бұрын
Did you put some extend on wheel hexes?
@gaffle-411 Жыл бұрын
I still prefer the scale looks of the Defender over the Bronco. Why not mount a spare tire on the front hood like some people do on the Defender. ALso use some brass wheels inserts only up front.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Those are all possible things to make the Defender better - true.
@giopirmisashvili55147 ай бұрын
Thank you
@RoadsideRC7 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@Elisplushies360woodierc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Great test. Those wheels that came with the injora. Are they the offset or standard?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
You can see all of the details on them, here: amzn.to/3GeaYNP
@Elisplushies360woodierc Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC Sweet thanks.
@Kevin_Jones Жыл бұрын
I only have the Defender and the Bronco is on its way so correct me if I’m wrong but is the Bronco lighter and less top heavy? Would the tires test differently with the different body?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
The Bronco body is lighter weight - correct! I believe the tire test would still show the Injora are the best.
@Kevin_Jones Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC thanks for your response! I agree that the test results may not change. Do you know if the wheel wells are different sizes? I’m thinking about tire size and fender rub as well.
@ericfaley9019 Жыл бұрын
I just bought my TRX on Friday. While I was there buying it my hobby guy highly recommend I get the brass rings and 3 piece rims. I tested mine stock and then with the brass rings. I noticed an Improvement over stock. I am confused why the stock tires don’t have foams . The aftermarket come with foams. I also found the stock tires aren’t tall enough for the larger scale over a 1/24 .
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I am not typically a fan of adding rotating mass, so I steer clear kf the weighted rings.
@dylan2798 Жыл бұрын
Could test the traxxas Baja pro x, jconecpt green compounds and lgrp tires in a part2 video
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@Friskee628 ай бұрын
I never buy brand name accessories for any of my 4 crawlers. Amazon has some very good RC products that last and work as they should...
@RoadsideRC8 ай бұрын
This is true many times!
@j2themen07 Жыл бұрын
Liked this video, however did you test the bronco, I would think possible different weight distribution not by much but can make all the difference. So my question is. The mud or all terrain? Looking to make that purchase today. I have the bronco version.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Really don't think the Bronco would have changed the result of which tires were better...just the truck would have performed better overall. Between the MT and the AT - I would suggest you pick the one you think looks better. They performed very similarly.
@Sol-hl2rj Жыл бұрын
Weigh the chassis down, it’s too light. Canyons are great in tenth and eighteenth scale, Yeah Racing has some alloy wheels with tires with narrow track and firm foams for SCX24 - they could be very scale and perform well on the TRX-4M Defender 🤙
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Good tip!
@paulmartinez4994 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried cutting the canyon yet? I just switched from the bfg to them uncut and it's a huge difference.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
I never did. I cut the 1/10 version - it helped them a lot. But haven't done it to this scale.
@bicross87 Жыл бұрын
Those TRX4M are so deceiving with their big top heavy bodies... :) Nice test tho, thanks !
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Agree 100%! Did a trail with them yesterday...and now the Defender bodybhas to GO. The Bronco went over so much more stuff than the Defender.
@jackpanula9975 Жыл бұрын
I have that same clock but with trains !
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@curtisgardemal13646 ай бұрын
What size are the Injora MT's you used?
@RoadsideRC6 ай бұрын
You can see the specs here: Injora MT: amzn.to/3VbZaQn
@josephfogus67359 ай бұрын
Hey Troy will most aftermarket tires fit onto the stock defender rims? Thanks
@RoadsideRC9 ай бұрын
Yes. As long as they are 1.0 tires, they should work. However, getting a set of metal beadlocks is super valuable.
@josephfogus67359 ай бұрын
@@RoadsideRC ok great thanks
@masontarter Жыл бұрын
Did you have foam inside the Injora tires?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Yes - I used the foams they provided with the tires.
@fishnrc294 Жыл бұрын
I bought 1 in metal beadlocks for my M & they didn’t fit the wheels they wouldn’t mount to the tires.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Seems odd. Mine fit with zero issues.
@wolfguard1180 Жыл бұрын
Injora seems to be the best for small crawlers.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Sure seems like it!
@Mike-wo5rw Жыл бұрын
Do you also have experience with the micky thompson? what do you think of that?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
I have tried it, but not in this scale.
@kghhgkgk6322 Жыл бұрын
Should have watched this video before I ordered some interco 1 inch tires. They look even smaller than the stock ones now that I have them in hand. Wasted money I guess. Should I not have gotten 1 inch?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
1 inch is the right rim diameter, but the tire can also be different diameters on the outside.
@kghhgkgk6322 Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC oh ok. I expected them to be bigger than the stock tires. I guess I mean taller. But they are actually shorter and make the Bronco look pretty dumb lol
@zieske98 Жыл бұрын
You should do another video with adding wheel weights
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of wheel weights. I don't like to add rotating mass.
@zieske98 Жыл бұрын
@Roadside RC so I'm looking at getting a m4 bronco when they come back into stock in my area, but it looks like it needs more weight for traction, how would you add weight to it then?
@zieske98 Жыл бұрын
@Roadside RC and I was also thinking the wheel weights would be the lowest part of the truck for better stability?
@guyshred3949 Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRCwhy not. My new set working nicely. Low gears help also
@willtaylor8152 Жыл бұрын
can you put canyon trail tyres on on injora beadlock wheels?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Yes - but I believe you need to cut a small amount off of the tire bead.
@willtaylor8152 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'd like to switch tyres but I've heard injora ones rub at high steering angles and I don't want my wheels to stick out any further
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
@Will Taylor I run the setup you see here in the video and dont have any issues.
@dosfeos805 Жыл бұрын
Did you add any brass components when you did the tire an wheels test?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Nope - still basically stock.
@dosfeos805 Жыл бұрын
@Roadside RC how is the climbing angle handle? I just picked one up one of these with similar wheels on order
@MIKEC2000 Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! What was the height of the Injora tires?
@Steelbluebrick Жыл бұрын
62mm
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Just the right size for these trucks!
@MIKEC2000 Жыл бұрын
Was worried they would rub so good to onow
@kghhgkgk6322 Жыл бұрын
Do you leave the foam inserts in the tires?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Yes I did.
@claypoort3518 Жыл бұрын
Can you drive in water with foams in the tires
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Yes you can! However, they will absorb water, so I suggest venting the tires to help the water get out.
@outdrsman10 Жыл бұрын
which injora tires were used without clearance issues?
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Both of the ones in the video.
@TomeOfKnowledge74 Жыл бұрын
There must be a difference between the Defender and Bronco. I just bought some Injora 62mm tires for my stock Bronco, and the front tires rub very badly on the bumper, and turning is also difficult. Many people have trimmed their bumpers to make them fit.
@joshwithers7697 Жыл бұрын
Up hill in sand would be a good test
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@LancerNik1311 ай бұрын
Injora MT or AT?
@RoadsideRC11 ай бұрын
I tested both. Links are in the video description.
@LancerNik1311 ай бұрын
Which is a better all around tire in your opinion? Thanks
@urdonercjeremyburris7541 Жыл бұрын
The injora would also do better because they have metal beadlocks. It's common sense.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
The difference on weight at this scale is basically zero.
@robinkesterlives Жыл бұрын
I'm not nearly as round as I once was, for the record.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@robinkesterlives Жыл бұрын
I prefer the mud tires - either Injora or RC4WD's Mud Terrain models, the size and grip make them work for my style. I never had much luck with the stock tires, so they all became covers for rc controller grips and spares :D
@petejones6827 Жыл бұрын
the mud terrain MT works good in mud dirt conditions on rock crawling they are JUNK the knons make u bounce and lose all your grip, get the really big hyrax looking tire they works REALLY good and are a softer compound than the mud terrain injoras
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Hasn't been my experience in my area. I just took these tires to our local 1/10 outdoor course. Worked really well, no issues with traction on rocks at all.
@petejones6827 Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC could just be the inclines i was choosing i would wheel spin wayyy more with the MT they are not very wide either causing me to lose some sidehilling as for the hyrax looking injoras they sag more creating a bigger footprint they are wider and still dont roll over i just walk up whatever it goes up with no wheel spin unless it wants to flip im not getting traction loss ill have to throw vid comparison up on my other channel for ya i got a couple of my rc vids on it. but in the mud hill areas i was in, those knobs were wayyyy better cause they would grab those really tiny roots and just walk up the dirt hills, but anytime i would try to pull myself up a rock ledge with the front end i would get wheel bouncing and just as i would start to climb a lug would slip and cause the next lug no make the front slightly bounce but enough to lose grip.
@petejones6827 Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC i still prefer them the MT's on my FMS chevy as they look really good and with the lift they are a skinny enough tire they dont rub my wheel wells that much to hurt it, but anything wider rubs too much when flexed. so i give the MT's that they have their application. which is why i think they make a good mud tire too they clean out pretty good and those lugs kinda just paddle through the mud
@petejones6827 Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC tbh i dont mean they are junk they are really good tires the MT's and i thought they were the best ones until i got the crawler tire thats the 64mm tall ones that look like a hyrax clone they are SUPER soft and ever since ive used them they have been so good the MT's seem like junk when i go back and watch vids of me tackling the same things with the MT as with the hyrax clones its like the MT's compared to stock a night and day difference
@thudtrades18509 ай бұрын
BFG's even suck in real life...lol
@RoadsideRC9 ай бұрын
Ha! Accurate copy then!
@kellykuretich6366 Жыл бұрын
🎅🎅👍👍
@ironj100 Жыл бұрын
NICE INJORA TIRES. Are theY direct fit tires.
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
There is a link in the video description. They came as wheels and tires together.
@ironj100 Жыл бұрын
Also are you having the O RING PROBLEMS WITH YOUR DRIVE SHAFT PIN poppy out On the TRX4 M. Any hacks for it
@RoadsideRC Жыл бұрын
I had them pop one time when I had the wheels on too tight. Otherwise, no issue.
@junkyardboost8372 Жыл бұрын
Put heat shrink over them
@ironj100 Жыл бұрын
I’m go to be TRAILING with my Trx4 M not really much Crawling. ARE THERE OTHER HACKS ALONG WITH SHRINK WRAP. Can USE Loctite THREAD LOCKER. (I already put PTFE THREAD SEAL TAPE ON THEM SO FAR on Front and back O rings. Does it happen to all 4 O Rings. Thanks
@ironj100 Жыл бұрын
@@RoadsideRC so loosens the wheels. I’m going to be Using it stock for Now and not really crawling Much with it.
@TomeOfKnowledge74 Жыл бұрын
@@ironj100Traxxas seems to think those cheap orings are a good idea. They aren't. Over just the course of months, they can dry rot or tear from use, and it's very inconvenient to lose the pin. - Do NOT use thread lock or glue on them. - Do consider using heat shrink. Works great. - Or just invest in better shafts.
@jackalo626 Жыл бұрын
Love the channel, subscribed and have many same.vehicles you do by chance.