Never been prouder of Katie than during that patreon plug
@susannahlewis84646 ай бұрын
Why is her little calling card a blackbird when she's known are The Orb Weaver??? An orb weaver is a spider. Why are we mixing animal motifs?
@HuckleberryCyn6 ай бұрын
My wife is a criminology student and is on track to get her masters in forensic psychology- she has told me repeatedly that serial killers aren’t smart, cops are stupid. So Rowan being dumb as shit actually tracks.
@LyValVariety22 күн бұрын
facts! the fact that cops have literally said that the show Reno 911! is very on point to how things are in their precincts. for anyone that’s seen that show, that should 1) be concerning and 2) makes sense. 😂
@haggisa18 күн бұрын
This is only tangentially related to the “cops are stupid” fact, but the fact that the judge in the trial of Ted Bundy was so swayed by his charisma and eloquence (I presume?), that he openly complemented Bundy DURING the trial, in the court room haunts my mind.
@FujoshiInRecovery6 ай бұрын
My biggest issue with this book is they just were not good serial killers. The fact they're both "good serial killers" is eye-rolling, they rarely do anything interesting with the murder competition, they consistently get their DNA all other the crime scenes, the gore is meh, and (the worst crime) is that they're both grossed out by cannibalism. At least ONE of them should've considered cannibalism at some point. It's giving "well they're serial killers but we don't want you to think they're bad people because we want you to root for them so they only kill people who deserve it and also don't partake in other serial killer hobbies" pul-LEASE. Hannigram did not instate itself as the quintessential serial killer romance to be disrespected like this. Also, speaking of, they should've been more toxic lmao
@brieg18916 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@beepbeepbeeps6 ай бұрын
Misleading username, you are NOT in recovery and we love that for you
@not_actually_a_jellybean6 ай бұрын
I agree- the interesting thing about serial killers (in fictiom) is that they are NOT "good" people. Why even write a book about killers if they arent unhinged freaks ? And no cannibalism????? Unacceptable!
@luizavazquez70296 ай бұрын
WILLIAM IS SWELLS EDITOR??? This is so wild to me
@Adelynoir6 ай бұрын
There is a universal safe word: "no" "stop". For some people though, part of the 'play' is pretending so those words lose their meaning so you have to have a safe word that is outside of normal vernacular so your partner knows it is not a part of the dynamic. However, if it is your first time hooking up with someone and you have not met before hand to outline your kinks ect THERE IS NO NEED because 'NO' and 'STOP' exist. This is just romance authors reinforcing that the above 'NO' and 'STOP' even in regular sexual relationships mean NOTHING and can be ignored(as often happens in these kind of books) and I HATE IT.
@pippaschroeder96606 ай бұрын
Yeah and don’t bring up that bullshit with not understanding through tone. If they are serious YOU CAN TELL
@shay55556 ай бұрын
I actually did find Amanda's channel through your podcast, so she did gain at least one sub because of you guys.
@marocat47496 ай бұрын
She even finally visited a furry con
@smartmuscle70116 ай бұрын
Imagine a line about "is he really a serial killer, he's right handed." Because of the statistic of most serial killers being left handed.
@monster-enthusiast6 ай бұрын
I'd legitimately watch an episode of you guys going over sex scenes and explaining why they don't work.
@76kilosofshade816 ай бұрын
They did one on the threesme in The cyborg Tinkerer. Absolutely hilarious. But yes to more. 👀
@mavrifantasia6 ай бұрын
I would buy them both being serial killers who kill serial killers if they were both obsessed by Dexter or something.
@ishani12746 ай бұрын
I actually have come across a lot of one shot fanfics which are based on the idea of 'what if the main characters were serial killers and met in a dark alley'. So this book is pretty much on the trend of fanfication of published books. We've had the Coffee Shop AU and the Serial Killers AU, soon we will have a published novel around the idea of '5 times they didn't and the 1 time they did' :P
@marocat47496 ай бұрын
Urg can that at least expected to polished to degrees, god knows how many books started as fanfics a lot, but , can there be more?
@tallyjones89176 ай бұрын
There’s even an anime out this season that’s alpha/omega BL so yeah I think fanfic really has officially gone mainstream 🙃
@joyc.e.75116 ай бұрын
@@tallyjones8917don't be shy, drop the title👀
@RenaDeles3 ай бұрын
@@joyc.e.7511tadaima okaeri is the title, it's streaming on Crunchyroll and was actually really sweet. That's how you can tell it's gone full mainstream because it's a family focused series about the main couple and their (eventually) two kids. Nice drama and humor throughout, also interestingly enough they went for the world building of a/a and o/o is the social norm, and our heads dealt with some friction for being an alpha and omega couple.
@yiannis59726 ай бұрын
Οh how exciting. I've been waiting for Amanda to join again
@srose10886 ай бұрын
The sexy irish killer/ ganster/ bad boy trope is so worn out at this point. Lol and they always have brothers.
@llindberg1946 ай бұрын
I knew this book would be stupid and the serial killer elements added just for "flavour" but I didn't know it would be "I am giving up sex forever"-bad 😂🤣
@HazelSageHP6 ай бұрын
Will, I would love to hear a discussion on how genres can limit how good a book is and the difference in quality between old YA vs new YA because I noticed a decline too! I thought it was just me getting older, but when i read older YA books as an adult that I didn't read as a teen, they tend to come across much better! Love y'all and always love your collaborations with Swell! I followed you both separatedly, so seeing the Ice Planet Barbarians video a while back and then seeing this one today was delightful!
@tallyjones89176 ай бұрын
You might also be experiencing survivors bias. Older things that are still popular or at least known to this day after a decade or more will be by default better than these YA books that are only in their current period of brief fame and will be forgotten give it a few years.
@HazelSageHP6 ай бұрын
@@tallyjones8917 That's definitely a fair point! I was actually just chatting with some friends today about some old books I DNFed for weird reasons or thought about but didn't read back as a teen that I'm really curious to see how I'd feel about now. They're definitely not well known, so I'd be curious to see how they'd stack up. Staying power would definitely influence this debate!
@jessica_inprogress6 ай бұрын
As someone who lives in Texas and works with injuries, The drive that they take with her having a beat up face, dislocated shoulder, and likely fractured ribs, would at MINIMUM be 12 hours non stop. and that's the edge of texas to the edge of nebraska. you can easily add 4-8 hours of non-stop driving in texas alone to that time. Even if they left chainsaw dude's house at 10pm, they are not arriving at brothers house at noon. Also, aint no way she's getting on her knees for double pen. an hour or two after her "possibly broken might need surgery" shoulder is popped back into place. that's not even accounting for her bruised to broken ribs which take MONTHS to heal and typically cause people to experience difficulty breaking .
@jessica_inprogress6 ай бұрын
Also, dude hadn't had any action for four years. he's gonna one-pump chump it to start.
@mergesviz6 ай бұрын
I’ve been going through it with uni and clinical rotations, and what has been getting me through these past few mornings is listening to this podcast. Lemme tell you how excited I am to listen to y’all and Amanda!! Perfect timing
@angryotter91296 ай бұрын
I appreciate you guys not making the bookclub read this. Thank you, benevolent overlords!
@Acko_Taco6 ай бұрын
I have never read the book. And it doesn’t really sound like my cup of tea. I’ve been a subscriber to Amanda for a while now and stumbled upon this channel without knowing the connection. Today I find my world colliding in this Channel, Swell Entertainment & as a Fannibal. What a great episode all around! ❤
@venihiam15914 ай бұрын
The fact that the guy is a serial killer and a chef then the idea that he's also a cannibal and he makes her some human ribs to eat and she asks him what they are while eating. And he tells her that is a dude he killed and she goes "he tastes delicious". That would be a fantastic serial killer romance thing
@marie_and_her_library6 ай бұрын
I’ve heard of this but decided not to read it - I also heard the narrators were specifically in the same room so that they could bring the in person banter to aid sexual tension
@astrocytes5 ай бұрын
oooh so that's why they duetted the disclaimer I thought they were a couple like the Bordeaux's. 😂
@Sandreline6 ай бұрын
Re: audiobook narrators. When I was reading the first Emily Wilde book, I was enjoying it. But I didn't fall in love with the MMC till I heard his audiobook narration. You can say he's Irish but my dumb American brain is only ever gonna read it in my accent. Re: virgins lol. "Hotel of Secrets" handles this pretty well. The FMC is experienced and the MMC is not. But the MMC is definitely some flavor of neurospicy, so learning turns into a special interest of sorts. Very cute.
@ViolentEuthymia6 ай бұрын
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AMANDA IS BACK?! Yes! YES!!!!!!!!! My favorite channels collide again.
@colleen66445 ай бұрын
I am flabbergasted at how many people enjoyed this book. Loved the discussion!
@zionengine6 ай бұрын
If you wanna delve into some hardcore serial-killers-who-get-it-on, try Poppy Z. Brite's "Exquisite Corpse". (Overall, it's more violent and depressing than erotic.)
@gabimarie79536 ай бұрын
I hope the fourth book is a Christmas special
@RainChoc_6 ай бұрын
I’m 27 & I’ve seen/LOVE the show Dexter 😅 !
@Samalamaramjam6 ай бұрын
WAIT JUST REALIZED THAT THEY ARE THE SAME WILLIAM
@maximilianlopez1966 ай бұрын
I was sub #10 😆 (I don't know if that's true or not) Glad to see y'all growing, keep it going! ❤
@MrRorosuri6 ай бұрын
a swell crossover. yaay
@CrisM7796 ай бұрын
Great collab! Amanda has officially outed Will and everyone knows about his foot pics 😂And Katie talking about your Patreon with Maria miming the whole way through was hilarious. Every episode it's like she's taking a pop quiz and you guys keep torturing her #freekatie😅 As far as this book is concerned, once more my opinion and choice have been validated: if I want smut, I'm better off going to AO3. PS: Please make Will read that milking book! Judging by the title it'll be either hilarious or torturous!
@summerb51535 ай бұрын
1:21:01 THE WAY I BURST INTO CACKLE WHEN WILLIAM SAID IT IN SOUTHERN ACCENT BAHAHAHA
@nethla3146 ай бұрын
Don't fret read books is awesome too :D
@susannahlewis84646 ай бұрын
Please force Will to read the milking book.
@colleen66445 ай бұрын
Oh no! 😂
@nethla3146 ай бұрын
reminds me too of the serial killer convention situation in the Sandman, like the secret world where they all coexist like colleagues xD
@JBCBlank6 ай бұрын
As a person who read a lot of the Ice Planet Barbariasn series. I know what the spur is for.
@catgames7034 ай бұрын
Gen Z-er here, discovered you guys 2 years ago and have been a loyal follower since
@grayace45566 ай бұрын
I had once watched a video where a profiler was saying serial killers that only target other serial killers is not a thing. It's just a made up trope and doesn't happen. That's not how serial killers work.
@Samalamaramjam6 ай бұрын
Dream collab
@LyValVariety22 күн бұрын
Natural Born Killers, but make them Dexter and with personalities like burnt toast lol
@LadyJ4036 ай бұрын
yay love swell glad to see her here
@patb25824 ай бұрын
Please review Leather & Lark ❤❤❤❤
@_Mands__6 ай бұрын
Sorry, but I had to mute the video: the kindle edition is a 99p Daily Deal today and you've intrigued me enough to go & buy it. I'll rewatch later.
@waldosanchez96276 ай бұрын
23:59 I disagree, the statement is so absurd that it would be funny in almost any context.
@marigabyteyssier22796 ай бұрын
AMANDA!!!!! 😃😃😃😃😃😃
@marocat47496 ай бұрын
Swell and is william really her editor, you cant put her in imaginary book jail will
@Akigirl20046 ай бұрын
Sorry, Katie, I’m not with you on the rib eating = sexual. I gagged during your description. Listening to people eat while slurping and sucking their fingers that is vile.
@unresolvedtextualtension6 ай бұрын
lol I don’t actually find chowing down on flesh all that appealing - I was hungry
@racheltheradiant46756 ай бұрын
The fact that a book like this was even written and published and read makes me fear for the future of humanity. Yuck. Thank you for the warning. Maria acting out the Patreon pitch was the highlight of this. Now excuse me while I go disinfectant myself.😫
@jasminv86536 ай бұрын
Chill.
@robertb.77726 ай бұрын
Love you guys, but I have to admit I am growing tired of you calling every other character a manic pixie dream girl.
@quintonchristie71496 ай бұрын
All of you are just gorgeous. And nice people. Thank you.
@HaleyJeanASMR6 ай бұрын
this book was definitely a case of attempting to do too many things at once and thus failing at all of them …. imo 🫣 so sick of romances with insta-lust. a cardinal sin!!!!
@marocat47496 ай бұрын
So the too many things song of maria Its not even insta, but can itr be because their personalitis just work good together , not "hot" , through its better iff there is made clear why , ok persoinality can excuse a lot, even if a decent getting to know, is sexy. Or there is commonaities but its clearly not good, like dexter and lila , which is the good serial killer romance, because its showing how that doesnt make a relationship work and is more likely to end with one dead. not whatever in later season, in 2 best season