Vertical Miter Shooting Board Build | Perfect Box Miter Joints

[@ebrohman]

What are the advantages/disadvantages of this compared to a donkey ear? With a donkey ear you can still have the regular shooting board ready in a second, although this seems like it may be more accurate?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Two jigs designed to do the same thing. The traditional donkey ear with a screw is harder to build

[@brenchuckswood3826]

Now I’m gonna have a shop full of shooting boards. Thanks a lot Rob! Lol. Sarcasm. They will be put to good use. Chuck

[@skylarkrayneski453]

Thank you for all your great content. As a 15 year old tying to get into woodworking you have tought me a lot that I can incorporate into my builds.

[@Andrea-bw8xm]

Good for you, kid. I wish I had started when I was your age! Pay attention to the detail. You can learn great techniques with Rob Cosman and team. Happy Holiday Season and while you're on break from school...practice your skills!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Skylar.....Merry Christmas. Just let me know whatever woodworking questions you have and I will help you

[@myerscok]

Thanks Rob. Great video. I will definitely be building one of these shooting boards.

[@leehaelters6182]

Welcome to the trade and craft, Skylar! Keep a strong heart! May you always be your own best admirer, and your own worst critic. Please look up the Rules as put forth by Wendell Castle, God give him good rest.

[@lenpiazza8493]

As a 56 year old trying to get into woodworking you have taught me a lot that I can incorporate into my builds.

[@jeremysewell2805]

Thank you for your service brother

[@dlewis2446]

I'll give credit that you are one of the very few people I've seen who uses shooting boards practically. I think they're as essential as a bench. However, I was taught these are the basics. What I think will really impress your viewers is to show them how to use custom angle jigs in the boards to make compound angled boxs/trays. Example, A 70° 'square' in the mitre jig will rip the compound, a 20°fence edge tool will offset the angle and rim so it all sit nice and flush on the surface Make 2,wooden hinge them together and you have a perfect compound mitred box. You could even make a custom angled shooting boards to make any number sided fluted forms.

[@campbellmj9405]

How did I miss this video? Thanks for the instruction Rob. I'm needing something exactly like this.👍

[@natepeterson7145]

That's some serious accuracy. Great tutorial Rob.

[@ruthwoods5020]

This is EXACTLY what I have been looking for. GREAT video. GREAT instruction. Thank you.

[@charles888]

Very clever method of using a feeler gauge with a square to not have to rely on visible light between square and work. Thanks, Rob.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I use feeler gauges all the time

[@andrewbrimmer1797]

Rob for everything not just these videos but for what you do with the vets, thanks Merry Christmas and happy safe New Year

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Merry Christmas to you.

[@pauloreyfigueiredo]

You encouraged me to move to hand tools, keep UP the good work

[@evankooiman1988]

I built this over the weekend. Got to use it for the first time yesterday. It worked perfectly. I got exact 45° cuts. I did have to cut the 45° cut in the jig twice. I needed to refine the 45° and make it a little bit more accurate, and also I needed to make the groove a little deeper in the board.

[@smart-jn1gg]

Thank you for planing MDF. I often find I can sneak up on precision by hand planing edges of plywood and mdf even after careful work with a table saw. I can always resharpen after.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Yes you can! I never understand the people who say, “ it will dull the blade”. So does basswood

[@soldier4christ172]

Best thing to do on Christmas PTO... binge watch Rob Cosman in the evenings on KZbin! Merry Christmas Rob, Luther, and the entire family!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I totally agree

[@pimzedd]

I built one of these a couple of years ago. It works great. I found that if for any reason the miters do not produce a 90 degree corner, the angle can be corrected by moving the lateral adjusting leaver to make slight changes to the miter.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

great point

[@jradwick2]

Can't wait to make this shooting board, love how you adapt on the fly sincerely thanks

[@audioman99]

Thanks Rob!

[@mdburnem]

I always appreciate your videos, tutorials and instructions. I would dearly love to make one of these but without a good tablesaw and the various jigs I will have to keep looking. Keep up the great work.

[@danthechippie4439]

Could you use a router with a 45 degree bit instead of a table saw?

[@daviddura1172]

Merry Christmas and here's to a Happy and Prosperous New Year.....

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

And to you snd yours

[@SGTGardner]

This is great I was looking for this video after I saw the shot on instagram, thanks Rob!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You bet

[@dale1956ties]

Thank you !!! I've been looking forward to this video ever since I heard you make reference to it on the live stream the other night. Also, seeing the holes in your beloved 5-1/2 reminded me that you spoke about that as well and I'm anxious for the announcement and or video regarding that.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

The holes are experiments we are doing. If it leads to a new product it will be months from now

[@andrewbrown8148]

What a great tutorial for this jig, Rob~! I'm going to have to build one to add to my hand-tool accessory arsenal. Gotta find some of that 1" MDF too. Thanks for this video~!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Please do! The big box stores dont carry it. Need to find a place that caters to designers and builders

[@fin3125]

I still can't find it looks like I'm going to need to glue a quarter inch sheet to it

[@bobwalker2293]

Thank you Rob

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You bet

[@stephendonathan6782]

Thank you for sharing! Merry Christmas to you and family! Take care and GOD BLESS 🙏!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Happy holidays to you

[@jsmxwll]

That is pretty sweet! Gives me a reason to revise mine. Thanks for the effort you put into your videos and the presentation of information.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Thanks for watching!

[@rastapete100]

Great idea! I like making boxes but avoid miters because I can never get the corners perfect. Now I will only need to be perfect once- when I build the shooting board.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Yup, be picky once and you are done

[@norm_olsen]

This video is awesome! I love how you manage to get to perfect and flush 45 degrees on the sled using the table saw. I was wondering at first when you were assembling the parts as to why it wasn't precise. But it's clear now! Thanks for sharing! As they say, work smarter, not harder!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Glad you liked it, Merry christmas

[@keithbrock6410]

Thanks for this video and all you do. Merry Christmas to you and your family!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Merry Christmas to you getting ready to gain a few pounds

[@MrWoody135]

Great video, as usual. Love the hair....you hippy !!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Happy new year

[@jerrygillette854]

I have been looking for one of these to replace mine from 15 years ago, that is a little awkward to use. Great timing. Merry Christmas to you and your family. And much thanks for your PHP.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Happy holidays! Send me a pic when you build a new one

[@kentboys5017]

This is a great idea to get accurate mitered corners. The shooting board looks as technical as the mitered corners. Thanks for sharing! Happy holidays! Take care.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Thanks for watching. Happy Holidays

[@williamhanna5224]

Awesome video Great work !

[@bretttyler5]

Thanks for sharing! Merry Christmas

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

HO Ho Ho

[@davelink1318]

Awesome ! I'm going to have to build one, it seems I can't cut anything square !!! And I restored a old Firestone supreme, witch I have some work to do on it , thanks

[@robertdyet]

Thanks Rob an Merry Christmas to you and your Team and Happy New Year

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Ho Ho Ho...Merry Christmas to you and yours

[@Jean-guy714]

Hi Rob, Thank you for the excellent video. Why don’t you make the side pieces flush with the base of the MDF? I see that you trim them to make sure they are exactly the same height on either side. Thanks

[@alanmckeown6462]

A very good idea. Merry Christmas

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Thank you! You too!

[@מעייןהמלבלבתחייםםםם]

Thanks!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You bet

[@RICKYDENNIS49]

Yet another great video. Can you tell me what the tapered countersink drill bit you were using for the screws, its something I have not seen before. What's the advantage of those drill bits over normal priming countersink drill bits ?

[@DonsWoodies]

Always wanted to make one of these for wider boards. I've made 4 regular ones for a hand tool class I teach to do 45° for picture frames but they only handle about 1-1/4" wide boards. This is the best design I've seen yet for these wider ones. Very cool and easy to make precise. Thanks for the video, Rob. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

glad you liked it Don

[@DonsWoodies]

@@RobCosmanWoodworking Finally made one of these yesterday and tested it this morning. I was a little upset with some of the precision I achieved on the board (retired machinist here so I'm too picky for my own good sometimes.) However, the 45° miters it makes are perfect! Great design. Game changer.

[@rick91443]

Always enjoy. Boy would I love a N.American Table Saw just to get to square one. Cheers and Merry Christmas...rr Normandy, Fra.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Whats the issue with a French table saw? Where in Normandy are you?

[@dpmeyer4867]

thanks

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You bet

[@robohippy]

One question I have about planes used with shooting boards, do you want a plane blade that is sharpened dead on square to the sides of the blade? It seems that for general use, you want a very slight arc to prevent blade lines/ridges in the finished piece. I was thinking that with a shooting board plane you would want the cutting edge perfectly straight, even on the shooting board planes that have a skewed blade.

[@danthechippie4439]

Great looking shooting board, I could use that for base boards/trim. Could you use a 45 degree router bit on the mdf base instead of using the table saw so you wouldn't have to dial in the table saw? Obviously that cut with a router would need to be done at the beginning

[@tintansigloXXI]

This is just the video I was waiting for, thanks for sharing your ideas and knowledge.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

My pleasure! I knew you wanted it so we made it !

[@harleywood9588]

Merry Christmas. I’ve been wanting to make one of these, perhaps this will be the impetus

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Well glad I made it then

[@fayz44awad]

Thanks

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You bet

[@murraypotts924]

Merry Christmas Rob Another great idea and another tool to make to go with the wooden hinge kit I bought off you recently. With the benefit of hindsight, may I suggest making the base a little longer to start with in leu of adding a bit latter. We all have 20/20 hindsight. To set up my table and miter saw for 45 degrees I make 4 cuts to get a box this exaggerates the error 4 times. I also ensure that the fence is parallel to the blade because that will put the 45 degrees out. Maybe another video topic tuning up a table saw to get perfect 45 degrees cuts😁. Regards Murray Australia

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

All good ideas, thanks

[@raymondcollyear4773]

Thank you for this video sir. I enjoy making keepsake boxes for friends and family but always had trouble with getting the 45s right. I'm trying to get the hang of dove tails but not there yet,and butt joints dont look good. Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas and wishing you joy and happiness and good health for the new year.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Merry Christmas to you. Good luck with your boxes

[@michaeljasper2225]

thanks for making the left handed comment...

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You bet

[@emersonassis7154]

Wow...congratulations from Brazil...this is an amazing precise shooting board...thanks for sharing...by the way why that three holes at hand plane body? Merry Christmas and thanks a lot for gifted us with all video classes during these years and your job at Purple Heart Project...an example for everybody..God Bless You and family...

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Merry Christmas. The holes are some design experiments we are trying

[@johnedwards6939]

Rob, any chance of making this available commercially ?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Here is a Merry Christmas Build Video for you. If you like shooting boards check out my Shooting Boards playlist here: kzbin.info/aero/PLqUOljnY0d9fw2gCf5bXc7nqEQMX7O2NY

[@danielrosenthal9625]

Great video again, thank you. And I love your punk rock aproach to dust collection. All the best

[@mitchstephen5491]

Merry Christmas to you and all your family and have some fun with all your grand children. From Haliburton Ontario

[@mayberrywj]

Great video....thanks....:)

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Ok

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Thanks for watching . Merry Christmas

[@michaelthompson5875]

Great project Rob, I think I may need one for my shop. Merry Christmas to you and your family, thank you for the incredible education this year.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Merry Christmas

[@ianmurray3820]

I wonder if Rob realised how close that blade was to his pinky.!!??😱

[@ccdaddyo6984]

Big fan Rob! Where to find this mythical 1" MDF in Michigan? Love the Rip saw and dowel kit I purchased from you too.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You have to look around . You will not find it at the big box stores. Look for the wood suppliers that cater to custom builders.

[@J.A.Smith2397]

Made me one over a year ago, needed a way to make box corner lol

[@joehirschegger7723]

Great timing on this video build! I was just thinking about getting a better 45 degree shooting board and here it is. So, you don't worry about back beveling for end grain to reduce tearout? Thanks Rob and crew!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I just didn’t think about doing it the side piece of the jig….i should have done it

[@donaldbinder4521]

I usually "burn an inch" when measuring diagonals to avoid my missing connecting with the end of the tape the same each way.

[@Matt-nv2qg]

Merry Christmas Rob, any chance you folks will be offering these for sale?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I am considering....we will see

[@betrickey]

Did anyone else notice that penetrator tank shell in the background??? I need a shop decoration like that!!

[@ianwatters5613]

Rob love your videos and have learned a lot over few years, you take a lot of pride in your work and precision quality wood work , was just watching this one and wondering why you don’t wear a Dust mask or any respiratory protection especially when cutting MDF at the table saw 😳 we only get one set of lungs , good to look after them 😉

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Except when filming.

[@ibrhemahmed170]

😊😊😊😊

[@jshanab42]

On your regular shooting boards you always flip the piece and do a bit of a chamfer and then work up to that, to prevent tear-out. Here it would be difficult but is it also not necessary becasue the "fence" is zero clearance because of the braking in?

[@danielwhiteside9180]

Thank you so much for this video, and all of your videos. I built this shooting board and it works perfectly. Thank you once again for all the content that you put online it’s greatly appreciated.

[@smtitmas]

great video. I use mine whenever possible and the results are definitely noticeable. However, I'm curious as to the reason for the holes on the side of your #5 1/2. some sort of accessory handle mount? or some other reason? please do tell.

[@barry.w.christie]

Another useful fixture and with the usual high precision and attention to detail 👍 Was there any benefit to cutting the 45 degree parts individually and then lining them all up, compared to just attaching them and then running it through the table saw and cutting the 45 all at the one time?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Well thats the way I would approach it if I

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I did not have a table saw

[@TomLeg]

Wouldn't all this be so easy in mm!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Go watch my video on mm vs imperial

[@chrisc4527]

Having made something that looked a lot like this, but with out the benefit of a table saw, I would have been much more interested in how Rob would have tackled it without that saw. I used a hand held circular saw to rough the long 45deg guide, and it felt like cheating. Given how many YouYube wood workers show making mitre corner boxes with just their table saws, I reckon it is those without such tools who would find this kind of shooting board most useful.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You can make this whole thing with hand tools just have to test your angles to make sure you are dead on

[@hino304]

Happy New year Rob, and thanks for the continued advice and sharing your wealth of experience. I would love to build one of these but like most Brits, I don’t have a table saw. How would you go about building one with just hand tools and a track saw?

[@markoaaltonenHH]

Great👍 What are those holes on the side of Wood River?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Experiment on the plane we are doing

[@jimmccoy3438]

Hi Rob, Great video. Not having a table saw, I am trying to figure out how to make one of these. Any suggestions?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

USe a hand plane to cut the 45 degrees and measure it with a good combination square

[@lincolndickerson1293]

😮 Just wow. The tactics you use to create things like this are incredible. I have one question, on a Cosman shooting board the back, the part the work piece is held against, is off set toward the front a few inches. Why is that not done here?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Because on the straight shooting board there is only a tiny strip of wood the sole of the plane is held againt and that has a tendency for users whe they shoot through a piece to pull the plane into the shooting board. Pulling the fence back a few inches prevents this. On this miter board the plane is riding on two supports so its held very solidily and that same problem dies not exist

[@leehaelters6182]

Rob, can you tell us a little about that monster engineer's square that you have? Is it a Starrett? So many the times I wished for something that size that I could rely on.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I bought it on Kijiji, which is a Canadian version of craigslist up here in an auction. It came from the rust belt in Ontario, which is basically our previous manufacturing area so no I can’t tell you exactly what it was used for in this day, but it was designed for testing flatness.

[@cj.tj.8201]

Just looking at the piece at the top that the plane rides on. If there was any chance it may sag over time. You might could invert a piece of plywood across vertically behind that piece. Somewhat like truss. To hold it up. Hope you see what I'm trying to say.... If I build one I will incorporate it into mine.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I dont think its going to sag but hey it never hurts to beef things up

[@donesry2902]

Thanks Rob! Nice helpful video. You missed an opportunity to build an elevated aux fence for your table saw rather than screw on the extra piece. Do you put any CA glue into the MDF screw hole before you put the screws in? How long do you anticipate this shooting board lasting?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I did not add any glue to the screw holes. I think it will last for years

[@bluecollarbanter8971]

Rob, I am having some tear out/spelching on the backside of the the fence after the plane iron passes the work. Any ideas on best way around this? It's mostly just annoying, but was wondering as I never hear the sound from your planes/videos that mine makes when using it and getting that tear out. Thanks!

[@KevinMudrik]

Would you ever consider selling these like your other shooting boards?

[@djsteviet8014]

Thanks for a great video Rob! I built something similar but it's a little small, and a bit clunky, so a great opportunity to upgrade. My only question would be how would you create the v channel if you don't have a table saw. I can think of a couple of possible ways but would love to have your thoughts. Merry Christmas and thanks for a great year of videos and information.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

I would hand cut two opposing 45 degree pieces and glue them against each other

[@roydaley3413]

👍

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

👍

[@Rossco242424]

Are you ever going to turn this into a product for sale?

[@Shannon-v3r]

Do you ever make any of these for sale?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Working on it

[@TrueMune]

Would there be more plane stability with the piece at the 45° angle? Keeping the plane flat on its side. (I'm only 3 minutes in, so... this could have been discussed already)

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

What you are thinking about is called a donkey ear and that is another way to achieve the same thing. BUt no there is not a stability issue of one over the other

[@frankdesantis452]

Merry Christmas Rob. Is there any need for a back bevel on a 45 miter, similar to what you do when shooting a 90 degree piece? I'm getting some tearout on my small box miters and have been trying to use a chisel to ease the back edge, with only limited success.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

In this particular design there is a fence against the edge of the piece preventing blow out so no not needed, but its all about the shooting board design not the angle

[@joeasher2876]

Every time I watch one of these videos it ends up with the same catch 22 problem... you already need a tool that can cut a true 45 in order to make a jig to can cut a true 45. If I had a table saw that could already mitre cut accurately then I woudn't need a mitre shooting board, but I would be able to build one.

[@edwardt8194]

With lots of test cuts and fitting, you don't need a tool that has 45°

[@elund408]

with a #5 plane you can get 45 deg, just takes a little time.

[@MrAtfenn]

hi rob and co. im getting ready to build this shooting board as well (i have already built the others you demonstrated) . In this build is there any problem with the blade impacting the jig itself? thanks and as always love the channel, love PHP

[@benjamincrossman5937]

I have an almost identical jig, and the only impact I've had is accidentally having the blade too far advanced and taking a bit of wood off the end stop. Not a big deal though, doesn't affect performance except maybe making the chances of blowing out the end of your workpiece a bit higher, but you can stop that with a simple knife line. The iron will take a slice or two out of the rails that guide it, but I just make sure to use a plane of the same width consistently ( a 6 or 7) rather than a 4 or three that might ride on the ramp where the slice was taken before by the wider plane. Hope that makes sense!

[@rogerprice4504]

Not sure I need one of these, but almost worth building it just for the fun of it. One obstacle is that I don’t have a table saw so I’m thinking through how I would use a plunge saw and rail set up. Has anyone used that setup to try and build this project?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Not that I am aware of but you can certainly build this with just hand tools

[@rb7738]

What are the holes on the side of your woodriver 5¹/2 hand plane for?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

We are doing some design expeiments

[@elboincc]

I want to make one but my Incra fence will not allow the 45 cut from both sides. Any ideas for an alternate method? Maybe with a track saw?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

In that case I would cut all angles super precise the first time then just line them up using your finger to feel if everything is lined up (Your finger can detect very small amounts)

[@elboincc]

@@RobCosmanWoodworking I wasn’t clear on my question. I was asking for an alternate way to make the “V” cuts that will serve as the cradle for the hand plane since I cannot make the cuts with my TS but still want to build the jig. Maybe a v-Groove router bit or possibly construct a sled?

[@pag345]

Are you kidding me Rob ? I just built one last week.... and built it wrong I see now haha. I did search your channel first and didn't see anything. Guess I'm building a new one 🤣

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Sorry about that. Give it another go

[@KAYAKN]

Will the board be available for purchase?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

We are considering it

[@rwe2156]

What are the holes in the sides of your planes for?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Some experiments we are doing

[@oldtimer3385]

Look good,but people who don’t have a table saw how do you build this

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

You could build this by hand. Just get everything correctly sized up and test before glueing and screwing

[@nhoj4539]

how can I buy one . ?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

We are considering if we should add them to our stote

[@dennisdoi8572]

Does it matter what kind of plane to use for your shooting board? What kind do you prefer to use?

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Length from blade to toe and weight are the two biggest factors. Blade width increases capacity through not a big deal. I use the 5 1/2

[@michaelbruunskovkristensen2509]

Precise… HA…. This shooting board is only precise everytime the Moon is at the same distance from the Earth!

[@roachwerks3043]

Watches video because no way to make perfect 45s Video requires perfect 45s to build Big sad 😢

[@cabman86]

I will never understand making something and calling it 3/4" and then it's 1/16 thinner. It ruins any and all plans you have. And try to find router bits those sizes.

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

For baltic birch its made in Europe so its really made to 25 mm, 3/4 is the closets to it but not exactly 3/4

[@josephkerkau2520]

That tables saw looks pretty close to your hands!! Therefore it's Unsafe!!

[@RobCosmanWoodworking]

Not at all. Safe or unsafe is all about having ot not having the wood under control