I believe the title should be: ‘Robert Fortune on How Tea Was Stolen From the Chinese.’
@shipwreckedpoet33 ай бұрын
And the actual documentary is titled “Tea War”: The Adventures of Robert Fortune
@giuseppelogiurato57183 ай бұрын
"How Robert Fortune stole a few minutes out of my life"... "Robert Fortune" 😂
@stephenmeier46583 ай бұрын
"How intellectual property was stolen by China" is more relevant here I believe
@kyk16823 ай бұрын
It’s stupid SEO. They won’t change it
@huwpatt38172 ай бұрын
the silk secret was stolen also from China... but the lawfare of intellectual property [ip] by the lazy deceivers of the aukus mob is more egregious @@stephenmeier4658
@valery668Ай бұрын
Fascinating and we must remember the Honore Balzac observation: "Behind every great fortune, there is a crime."
@carolebner20913 ай бұрын
Very beautiful country,great video.also informative i didn't know how India had got into the tea business.
@bdugan76403 ай бұрын
I found this documentary very informative about a drink I enjoy. However it wasn't the first great industrial secret theft from China. The first was silk! Under the patronage of the Byzantine Emperor, Justinian I, 2 Christian monks brought back silk worms and the knowledge of silk production. First the Roman Empire, then secondly, the Byzantine Empire had lost too much silver to China for the purchase of silk. The monoply was broken when Imperial Byzantine silk factories were set up. The Sui Dynasty lost out but the Byzantine Empire gained a new revenue source. Thus was born the European silk industry. This happened in the 6th century CE.
@lasentinal2 ай бұрын
I agree with your account of the theft of silk from China. My problem is the meaningless use of CE and BCE. These are too phonetically similar. I use AD to mean Advancing Dates and BC to mean Backwards Chronology which is logically what they are. You count forwards from 1AD and backwards 1BC, a bit like the number line, only there was no year zero, because the Romans had concept of zero as a number.
@anamokena-nicol4247Ай бұрын
@@lasentinal may be relevant to the account of history it was taken from. Someones parents/grandparents books they wrote on/about what they learnt, (or, the account of history/learning that was required to be preached to a new apprentice or potential successor; or even especially with the British non-nationals or new nationals due to invasions and wars). That can become important when undressing the obviously overdressed. Smaller estates were often only able to afford education to a certain level, and typically relied on traditional information, in larger estates the staff may have accessed information while the head of the household or estate was abscent. They wouldn't have been able to access other information as they would have only had access to the materials for the estate or house they are in, which would mostly be local and some regional/national knowledge only as items would be produced from the estate for the estate primarily, with any surplus trade going into the regional markets where the option for external trade exists .
@garycadogan4258Ай бұрын
cool, normally a war is fought and many lives cast asunder
@berndkliemann28326 күн бұрын
Most of all industrial secrets were stolen by China, not from China! 😊
@berndkliemann28326 күн бұрын
Most of all industrial secrets were stolen by China, not from China! 😊
@mimipanini173 ай бұрын
What a wonderful, well done documentary, to be enjoyed for many but especially for tea lovers. Thanks!
@SLICE_Full_Doc3 ай бұрын
Thank you ! ☺
@martinanderson47212 ай бұрын
The narrator is right about education in Scotland - two Acts required that every child in every parish shall be taught to read and write. Plus the Reformation.
@HkgHkg-gu3rd2 ай бұрын
Tea was not something rare. The tea trees grow very tall and we’re hard to pick. The one grows in china is a variety that is basically dwarf version of a tall tree - thus making it easier to pick. He was aiming for those dwarfs. Okay?
@martinanderson47212 ай бұрын
The tea clippers ( Cutty Sark, Black Prince, Therrmopylae) brought the fresh tea .mainly from Shanghai to Bristol where auction sales took place .They took about 73 days competing with each other. The phrase " on the nail " at the quayside posts.
@ChristopherBowly3 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary . Very interesting & informative & well presented & illustrated. Very many thanks.
@SLICE_Full_Doc3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🤗
@rossmckechnie12103 ай бұрын
For all the tea in China is a fantastic book for anyone that wants a little more detail around this story
@philchinamusical3 ай бұрын
One interesting thing is that though it says in the film that there was no common tone in China back then, all the Chinese actors in this film are speaking Putonghua (a common tone spoken by nowadays Chinese nation wide).
@douglaslee63243 ай бұрын
Yes, there was. They call it Guan Hua or official language. Hower, it is less popular than Putonghua today.
@douglaslee63243 ай бұрын
The actors have to speak Putonghua. Otherwise, the audience can not understand their dialect. Acting is not real. You are so naive. Grow up.
@edwardhaglin23223 ай бұрын
Wasn't silk stolen from China before this?
@billsadler36 күн бұрын
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@corylarsen57883 ай бұрын
Shanghai has existed for 1000s years and has been a major center for trade
@aldenteh94123 ай бұрын
Isn't the title supposed to be "How tea was stolen from the Chinese"? ...Stolen to the Chinese completely changes the meaning, the documentary already failed at the title.
@billsadler36 күн бұрын
It is "from", not "to", silly you...
@brettcurtis57103 ай бұрын
Yep, and one of the East India Company offshoots, Jardine-Matheson's HSBC Bank, founded on opium, still financing drug dealers, who woulda thunk???
@alomaalber65142 ай бұрын
the YOU TUBE on the Opium Trade is excellent, My town was part of the East Indian Company but took me a lifetime here in retirement to get the whole story on YOU TUBE! Cheers! Also the book by Peter Mathieson The Snow Leopard a great read.( that family).
@phil20_20Ай бұрын
"Robert Makes His Fortune" 🥠 - I highly recommend a cup of tea upon embarking this adventure.
@markuslaugner48532 ай бұрын
I'm a big tea fan and have been many times in China First time 1983 I know what is quality tea I have been many secret places where they grow very expensive tea I helped picking and processing But was never allowed too take a plant with me It should stay that way
@sirajahamed472013 күн бұрын
Fantastic videography.....behind the story.....its like a tour of exotic China...the doc really brings you back in time. It should be aclaimed at the Cannes Festival.. FGood job all esp the director.....
@christianwitness3 ай бұрын
This is a good story. Well done. Who knew? Not me...
@RichieTyndall3 ай бұрын
When you open with the outrageous assertion that the East India Company was honourable, you immediately lost all credibility.
@revolutionaryhamburger2 ай бұрын
I’m curious. What is an example of an honorable institution in your opinion?
@carlabroderick55082 ай бұрын
Didn’t notice the East India Company was presented as honorable. Its terrible reputation overwhelms any adjective.
@raolhooley2 ай бұрын
She isint asserting that eegit...thats just the phrase that was used originally
@rogermassey88442 ай бұрын
In the 18th / 19th centuries its title was The Honourable East India Company. So this programme is historically accurate in using its full title. Its use was not to praise the EIC as behaving honourably which it obviously did not.
@asc31842 ай бұрын
Theft even from its Allies was never below England and the UK. Wish that tea was the only theft.
@theoldcurmudgeon76493 ай бұрын
8:30: "No dependence can be placed on the veracity of the Chinese. I may seem uncharitable, but such is really the case." Some things never change.
@NCM-xy8ow3 ай бұрын
Words of a pirate and thief.
@alfaeco153 ай бұрын
And he cheated them stealing Tea plants, tea growing techniques...
@raolhooley3 ай бұрын
@@alfaeco15boohoo..woke nonsense...what exploitations had gone before both in china and England...eeegits..china at the time was a brutal dog eat dog place full of slaves,peasants and a wealthy class that had the power of life or death over vast swathes of the populace..it was a society that had grown from continual war and oppression..there is no period that has moral high ground..humans have always been greedy..read more to obtain a realistic balance
@alexanderjentes3 ай бұрын
A fascinating story!
@xavisanchez75223 ай бұрын
The east india company is older than the british empire . And was more powerful than britain itself
@raolhooley3 ай бұрын
Actually wrong because it was reined in by the British government so therefore not more powerful..lol..
@llee42252 ай бұрын
The monarchy got kickback from East India for permits and military support to it Mafia control.
@danguee1Ай бұрын
@@raolhooley Haha! Not a great political thinker, then? It was more powerful - but then was reined in by the British government. Those statements are not mutually exclusive. The EIC heirarchy submitted to British law not because it was weak(er) - but because it obeyed that particular law.... Go on - think about it - you can get there!
@raolhooleyАй бұрын
@@danguee1 desperate to be right ..lol...given it didnt want to be reigned in by the british gov but submitted to that fate means it was powerless against the might of the british gov therefore weaker..power has many forms..not a great political thinker are u...lol
@Michigander2693 ай бұрын
Im only here due to my reflexive impulse to check what the misspelled title implied. I don't even drink tea, much less ever contemplated it's origins and history...still, pretty interesting and well made. Good job 🤙
@HkgHkg-gu3rd2 ай бұрын
I am so relieved that the princess Portuga didn’t have the preference for gingseng or panda meat. Yea was really everywhere and cheap.
@ambindia2 ай бұрын
Very informative. A few questions.... How did tea get to Japan and when? Central Asia?
@christianwitness3 ай бұрын
I drink unsweetened black tea every day. I am 78. Carry on.
@SuperPromethee3 ай бұрын
And the crown regime did bar the american merchants to buy tea directly from china ..
@daveb0t823 ай бұрын
Fascinating.
@alomaalber65142 ай бұрын
Also the YOU TUBE on the Opium Trade and Boxer Rebellion a must. And the one entitled Magellian.
@London973 ай бұрын
Love this kind of content !😊
@SLICE_Full_Doc3 ай бұрын
Thank you ! 🤗
@jimmywang15863 ай бұрын
one addiction feeding another addiction: British opium for Chinese tea.
@xavisanchez75223 ай бұрын
Today is manufactured sugar
@khtan5852 ай бұрын
Which addiction is destructive and part of a prohibitted drug ?
@JS-jh4cy2 ай бұрын
Chinese refused payment in pure silver for tea, so eventually someone came up with trading opium for tea
@redtobertshateshandles2 ай бұрын
My dad's 95 and been drinking tea for most of that time. I don't think tea is harmful.
@RedStar07232 ай бұрын
thats ridonculous as everyone knew china demanded nothing BUT silver from foreign traders.
@jsa-z17222 ай бұрын
The Buddha did NOT rip out his eyelids. His EYELASHES.
@willemakkermans4067Ай бұрын
The eyelash story is about Bodhidarma, at Shaolin.
@leololauzoneАй бұрын
I loooved it! ❤
@TheCdecisneros2 ай бұрын
LIke when Reagen said to then President of Mexico De La Madrid ."stop selling us Marijuana. DLM answered ," NO Mr. President, Your people have to stop buying it.
@valmarsiglia2 ай бұрын
Stolen _to_ the Chinese? Also, I think you'll find quite a few more cases of industrial espionage prior to this (eg silkworms, Venetian glass, etc).
@martinanderson47212 ай бұрын
The departure from Britain by Fortune in the Peninsular and Orient shipping Company vessel Ripon.. This shipping line was founded by 2 Officers who had served in the British Army in Spain to get the French out.( Salamanca, Valladolid, Fuentes etc Hence P & O. 😮
@Landrew02 ай бұрын
"Stolen" from the Chinese implies that they owned it all.
@zhouzhang91022 ай бұрын
Very much over dramatised blurb and story generally. It's worth reading Fortune's own first hand account for a more balanced version, which is far more impressive, informative and factual, in my opinion, without the drama and hype.
@cliffmays4422 ай бұрын
First I would not call this "industrial" theft. Also what Robert did pales compared to what the Chinese have done in more recent times to America. Secondly tea was already taken out of China by Japanese monks in the 7th century A.D., or there about. Also China gave tea to plant to the Koreans in about the same time. But prof. Zheng seems okay with that.
@AndyJarman2 ай бұрын
I am gladdened to see there are some beautiful places left in China.
@cuthbertjolly48599 күн бұрын
I do believe that good people are in the ascendency in the world today.
@mohammedsaysrashid35873 ай бұрын
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage documentary shared by an excellent ( Slice full Doc) channel. Documentary about (tea ,silver, opium) as commercial commodities between Great Britain 🇬🇧 and the Chinese empire ... escalated to opium wars between China and Britain...Britain imposed its tyrannical conditions upon humiliated China at that time...thank humiliation leftover devastated phenomena in China until the end of WW2.
@Arwar5552 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr Fortune. May you RIP . You have made us people fron Sylhet very wealthy due to your acts. We now grow the best and most expensive tea in the world ...due to YOU SIR!!!!
@artfasil2 ай бұрын
They stoles it, my precious.
@mechannel70463 ай бұрын
14:00 Over 200 varieties of plants were introduced from China to Britain 17:20 China history podcast
@anwiycti15853 ай бұрын
How were the lives of plantation worker comparative to cooli’s at its origin?
@robintan50224 күн бұрын
Centuries later , tea drinking and appreciation among the popular culture in the West remains largely rudimentary, ignorant and unappreciative of centuries of rich tea varieties and tea culture from tea's countries of origin in the East. In the East, we appreciate and embrace all manners and forms of tea culture, the new and the old, including British tea culture. But it's good to see a number of Western connoisseurs are starting to explore and appreciate teas to the fullest extent
@llee42252 ай бұрын
Is that where "making a fortune" comes from?
@hafunland8942 ай бұрын
Perhaps anyone who enjoys fine tea should thank the creative industrious Chinese...
@yorkiesweetpea232 ай бұрын
Seriously, who did the title? 🤦🏻♀️ I had assumed the video wouldn't be in English, or that the captions/sub titles would be horrible, due to the botched wordings in the title.
@martinanderson47212 ай бұрын
The 1920s Flapper Song 🎵 Shanghai Lil - looking for my Shanhai Lil. "
@Mustang94cАй бұрын
I love how the Chinese historian first wish is to steal the tea back like the Chinese never steal anything 😂
@airmaxjoe3 ай бұрын
Not a fan of how this guy’s story is being spun as a positive thing. feels pretty evil and nefarious, and he should be viewed very poorly.
@dalebriansmith40293 ай бұрын
vocal fry was excessive and distracting
@MayadanavaАй бұрын
Um stealing silk worms... I think that wins by almost 500 years.
@sailordoc28183 ай бұрын
The Brits stole from other people ?? .. no way
@Thaile37Ай бұрын
Green tea was discovered by British at that time not “first discovered”… that was 2737 BCE, firstly by the Chinese by centuries… I mean it’s obvious but why are they saying “first discovered?”
@chrismac2234Ай бұрын
If we stole tea from China. Then get off our steam engines the Computers. Penicillin, dentistry, pain relief. Our atom bombs, the list is endless
@AndyJarman2 ай бұрын
29:10 God forbid any Chinese oroducts be 'stoken' from the West!
@aryanhan5062 ай бұрын
STOLEN FROM the Chinese ……..who is semi literate or deliberate to write ‘stolen to the Chinese’ ????
@danguee1Ай бұрын
29:06 that's rich, Lady! Complaining about 'espionage'.... There were no IP rights on that - he just observed a process and made notes. We should all applaud the dissemination of tea to the world. Since when have we started feeling sorry for monopolists?
@martinanderson47212 ай бұрын
The Narrator doesn't refer to the Great Philosophy of Confucius.
So in conclusion Ceylon ,India ,Kenya and many other places need to thank the British .
@LPRH2462 ай бұрын
Perhaps a cup of tea some opium a good lie down and think about merry old England
@dineshsoundararajan32743 ай бұрын
Love how they show the contrast between the indifferent/racist view of the white lady with the asian lady in two three places 😂
@robinsonrex12802 ай бұрын
Wait till you move to Malaysia and Singapore and experience the racism of your fellow Asians over there.
@jorgedufeng16263 ай бұрын
Well, lot of things were stolen or cheated out…
@harryhole57863 ай бұрын
You cannot steal a plant, it's mine ! No, nobody owns a plant, if you abuse of it: you get "stolen". That's commerce, you abuse on prices, you loose your business. Didn't you learn that on monopoly school or did you sleep at lessons?
@xavisanchez75223 ай бұрын
What is unjustifiable is to see 800/900 million people spreading inquisition when the censorship times are over and everyone is free to embrace again their native languages rather than using a genocide for purposes language( modern day spanish
@glorioskeyАй бұрын
Why don't speakers get voice coaches!
@brucelu4782Ай бұрын
Porcelain/China was stolen too.
@golgumbazguide...41133 ай бұрын
Explore Golgumbaz Deccan india 🇮🇳
@martinanderson47212 ай бұрын
The Logbook of the Cutty Sark.
@benhassan11Ай бұрын
The title should be: One more item stolen by the English.
@gkoknok60763 ай бұрын
Show would be better without the woke professor spreading her bullshit.
@markthompson1802 ай бұрын
yet another example of "woke" being way overused... Just say you didn't agree with her, or is that too painful?
@huntergray3985Ай бұрын
Given China's predilection for stealing Western technology, it seems rather rich moaning about taking a few tea seeds. Can anyone think of another crop, any crop, that is now grown internationally, but which once was claimed by one country as the only country in the world with the right to grow it? (Not including GMO or patented crop varieties, which have a limited protection for a short period of time.)
@nphipps94063 ай бұрын
in other words, coolies are the same as a particular name they are calling native Africans and Indians?
@timburrows5807Ай бұрын
If the chinese want reparations for their tea they can get lost,i drink coffee.
@brianwood1041Ай бұрын
The Buddha story , was out of place for the spirit of the Buddha and dharma
@markthompson1802 ай бұрын
What kind of "Scottish" accent was that?
@kennethmorrison76893 ай бұрын
Chinese green tea not favored in England nor in all of Europe. Somewhere a YT video exists which I watched a few years ago. It was posted by a scientist & he clamed that black Indian tea had germ & bacterial protections & helped the poor endure the Industrial revolution and caused great benefits to their society.
@Janovial3 ай бұрын
Chinese tea are many kinds. Black is one of them.
@NCM-xy8ow3 ай бұрын
Chinese tea is mostly black tea
@jacku83043 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as black India Tea as it was stolen out of China and brought into the British colony in 19th century. It was introduced to India by the British to overcome the monopoly of Chinese production. The first area to be planted was the mountain region surrounding the city of Darjeeling, perched on the Himalayan foothills, in the 1850s. Darjeeling covers the history of Darjeeling town and its adjoining hill areas belonging to Sikkim, but eventually part of British India. The British illegally incorporated Darjeeling into the British created India and give its independence in1947. India annexed Sikkim in 1975.
@Andres-v7r2h2 ай бұрын
The british what could i said horsethieves they stole gibraltar from spain
@glorioskeyАй бұрын
Oh no the tinny voice with fry!😖
@370530e3 ай бұрын
Check the story of Henry Wickham.
@martinwilby89422 ай бұрын
who please explain i have googled the name and nothing is coming up of interest
@casanova192523 күн бұрын
Commercials every 6 minutes? This is unwatchable.
@carlabroderick55082 ай бұрын
Industrial secrets are guarded as the wealth of any nation. Likewise, they will eventually be pilfered however, a process of globalization of knowledge. We respect China’s guarding its secrets at the time, but we hate the monopolization of seeds practiced by Monsanto now. We deplore the loss of wealth by one nation then, but blame it for our own loss of individual wealth, such as when our manufacturing was ended by China’s ingenuity and huge labor population.
@margitwes6495Ай бұрын
He was a thief and a fortune hunter. Funny how we still fight wars today to steal other countries riches.
@m.y.709720 күн бұрын
Free trade 😂
@Simonjose72583 ай бұрын
Karma is
@uwusmolbean2 ай бұрын
Mo 🌈
@royupton20313 ай бұрын
Yanks know f**k all about tea, so why do we have 2 of them narrating this tale
@RichieTyndall3 ай бұрын
Your opening statement is sweeping. Some Americans do know about tea. Film narrators don’t necessarily have to know the subject about which they are narrating. They just need to know how to speak clearly.
@xavisanchez75223 ай бұрын
Of course you know all, but not for american or english, but thanks to the companies founded by the catalans, the same ones that founded cala forn, arida zona and terra florida.
@xavisanchez75223 ай бұрын
@@RichieTyndallamericans are english speakers.
@oml81mm2 ай бұрын
Tea is grown in the USA, especially in one of the Carolinas (forget which one) and, in a smaller way, in quite a few other states as well!
@helenachase56272 ай бұрын
The female's voice is unbearable
@jesse896253 ай бұрын
UK was a joke before 1700
@markthompson1802 ай бұрын
I know, right? Because it didn't exist until 1801... 😜
@martinwilby89422 ай бұрын
@@markthompson180 its worse now
@nangdarin1655Ай бұрын
So the "honorable"??? East India company hired a THIEF to steal the secrets of tea from the Chinese??😂😅 What is this? Sarcasm! Or plain stupidity of the writer and narrator