Robert Hare - Psychopath/Sociopath - The Difference

Radio Interview about the difference between Psychopaths/Sociopaths. Robert Hare. (Recorded In 2004)

[@hieveryone.8508]

Dr Robert Hare, is the expert that describes psychopathy the best in my eyes. I will recomend Robert Hare to everyone who wants to know more about psychopathy.

[@leahaubrecht2976]

@@hieveryone.8508 correct

[@JayMark2049]

Oh absolutely! People will never really understand what the heck is going on with our world until they understand that we are ran by psychopaths.

[@jakeblunsford]

True.

[@phillipcroukamp1825]

You have to be at least a little bit of a psycho to become a success in any industry of department of life🤔 kind of like di difference between the hunter & the prey on a psychological level

[@nickmeyer238]

You'll find people tend to want Psychopaths running the world so long as they are assimilated and do their best to mask themselves. Google "Most Psychopathic" presidents. Before you read it write down your favorite presidents both modern and overall. You'll be surprised how many are high in Psychopathic traits.

[@BillyRankin-q5g]

​right you are and the system is intentionally structured to draw in psychopaths. Like moths to a flame its a self sustaining system@@jakeblunsford

[@JohnDoe-zu2tz]

Considering my empathy is sky high, I am guessing I am not a psychopath.

[@writemynameinyourblood]

nor a sociopath. a sociopath has no empathy or sympathy.

[@monkey97x]

letthemusicrock805 The only difference between sociopathy and psychopathy is that the latter is a neurological fault and a sociopath is a product of his/her environment.

[@InternalUseAvalible]

letthemusicrock805 I think they were saying that psychopath is not capable of empathy, whereas a sociopath can feel remorse

[@jenniferhcsmith-5586]

I treat people the way they treat me. if you are nice and treat me with respect I will treat you in kind. if not watch out!

[@IwasBlueb4]

Sophie Spot on

[@juliuskivimaki4491]

They got one thing wrong, psychopaths are very good at detecting others emotions, its one of the reasons they can manipulate other people so easily, they just don't feel these emotions in the same way

[@HollandDamien]

+Julius Kivimaki If they don't have the ability to know or feel emotions themselves they can only try to remember and mimic other people and they often don't do it correctly. People end up thinking they're weird.

[@pthompson108]

+Julius Kivimaki Getting close enough to a crocodile to count the teeth, measure the skull and so forth, in order to determine exactly what type of crocodile you are dealing with is probably not a good idea.

[@SpcGiraffe]

+Julius Kivimaki What he is talking about is emotional response and it is true that psychopaths have less of an emotional response to emotive stimuli. Simply they have less of an emotional response to the emotions of others. In other words they struggle to feel empathy: what the people around them are feeling. They aren't necessarily more skilled in detecting emotions either. They appear to be good at detecting others feelings/emotions because they are barely influenced by others feelings/emotions. This makes it very easy for them to exploit the emotions of others even if they aren't good at detecting them.

[@orderoverchaos9330]

+Samuel Cright So they 'appear' to be good at detecting emotions because they aren't influenced by others emotions. And it is easy for them to exploit others emotions even though they aren't good at detecting them? How is all this manipulation and control accomplished so well if they cannot put themselves in others minds (empathy) and are disabled in detecting emotions? Don't they say this about high functioning autistics? Except, autistics still care about others. I don't get it.

[@SpcGiraffe]

orderoverchaos Detecting and feeling are two different things. They do not feel others emotions as intensely as most people which is how they can exploit others emotions more easily. There is less of an immediate consequence.

[@elismaclaugh1349]

Love the thumbnail. Steve Jobs definitely leaned heavily toward the psychopath side of the spectrum.

[@kenzieskye3053]

The main difference is that a sociopath is crafted by a dysfunctional childhood and a psychopath is born that way.

[@IwasBlueb4]

Kensie Skye....Yes, that's exactly what I had learned....espec from documentaries by neurosurgeons

[@annekerotterdam7499]

A personality disorder is NOT the same as aberrated behaviour!

[@Scoring57]

Kenzie Skye Where's the evidence that sociopaths are created? All I see are claims. There isn't one abused person I know who suddenly couldn't empathize with people. A lack of conscience is more likely an issue of genetics than environment

[@annekerotterdam7499]

Scoring57, true. (brainactivity will show too) That's why every person is 'unique', a result of many different factors and influences.

[@knockknock9502]

Give this one a thought: imagine you capture the person who's raped and tortured your children for days before murdering the victims... Would you: 1.Kill him instantly! 2.Hand him to law officers. 3.Kill him slowly! 4.Have fun with him for a while!

[@JervisGermane]

Psychopath and sociopath are terms that are defined in several different ways depending on whose theory you follow. In some cases, they're used to separate degrees of lack of guilt or remorse. In others, they're used to separate suspected causes, internal or external. And sometimes they are used to separate someone who has the disorder of psychopathy versus someone who just does bad things without caring about it. It's still pretty open for debate, so you should clarify terms in discussions.

[@Law13tL]

Most sociopaths are not serial killers, but most serial killers are sociopaths

[@ZBlade952]

wrong most are a PSYCHOPATH

[@Law13tL]

***** No, that would be mass murderers.

[@grizzlee358]

Cooked Spam The-Second did you even listen to the video? You don't know what you're talking about...

[@chavez614]

Cooked Spam The-Second You're wrong. Most serial killers actually suffer from Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD). It is just like OCD except it deals with a persons personality rather than behavior.

[@tarquinmahoney1932]

Cooked Spam The-Second watches video saying psychopathy isnt sociopathy, instantly confuses the isue by confusing the term, all serial killrs are sociopathic, what do you think mass murer is? every murder is sociopathic as it breaks the law, its nor#t self defence or manslaughter is it? its murder. dumbass, all serial killers are sociopathic psychopaths... noone else does it... cluster b disorders, no empathy, yiou cant coldly murder people if you have empathy..ffs. talk about fucking stupid

[@cillyhoney1892]

Psychopath, sociopath and anti-social personality disorder are all different names for the same thing and are often used interchangeably by researchers and mental health professionals. To try and differentiate between the terms is splitting hairs and is just leading to confusion.

[@leahaubrecht2976]

No they are related but not exactly the same Sociopathy is secondary psychopathy And defined by behaviour

[@leahaubrecht2976]

Psychopathy is defined by a constellation of affective traits

[@cillyhoney1892]

@@leahaubrecht2976 Garbage, both Psychopath and sociopath are antiquated terms for what is now described in the latest DSM 5 as Anti Social Personality Disorder. You are splitting hairs and just causing more confusion.

[@cillyhoney1892]

@@leahaubrecht2976 And water is wet. Every personality disorder is defined by a constellation of affective traits. Your sentence is garbage. Your splitting of definitions of psychopath vs sociopath is needless garbage. It does not engender understanding, it only causes more confusion,.

[@leahaubrecht2976]

@@cillyhoney1892 You are welcome to your opinion However there are people who are experts on this beyond myself and certainly have shown by psychopathy is a separate syndrome from ASPD All ASPD does is show that someone is a criminal It doesn’t tell us why they are So nice try You are obviously not up to date in respect to the current research that shows brain differences in clinical psychopaths who score high on the PCL-R You clearly don’t know as much as you think you do despite wanting to call what others say garbage Your perception are outdated Go do some actual research that is up to date

[@kaeldare]

No they can grasp it on an intellectual level just fine, they simply don't feel it. They are disconnected from feelings of guilt or remorse. Generally this happens after surviving so much trauma that the emotional side shuts down basically. They stop being able to care about anyone because they had to detach to survive. Often they don't know how or care to ever reconnect if they even could.

[@lakesnakes1822]

I have a family member who has great sympathy and loyalty for anyone related to him or his pet animals. When he was younger he was verbally abused and slightly bullied in elementary school. After getting in the wrong crowd, he attended an catholic school for 2 years. When he returned to my high school, he acted like a "mobster" and participated in prohibited academic activity but never got caught. He spent weeks and months constructing these plans of cheating, bargaining which he calls dealing, stealing, and even "muscling" specific people around he did not like. He dislikes socializing with people outside his family but can easily attract people and puts on a "mask" of charm and excitement when needed. He lies at least once in every conversation with non family members and constantly warns his younger cousins,"Don't let anyone outside the family know what your thinking." Weird thing is though, he has great empathy and respect to elderly people and anyone he identifies as innocent (children, nerds/geeks, bullied kids). He believes that relationships are unnecessary and the only purpose of life is surviving and progressing your species (humanity). He treats women very kind but has no intentions to date them (even the hot chicks) and uses the phrase," You can never win a fight with a girl, you beat her up your a jerk, you get beaten your a pussy". He also some what admits his criminal like behavior by always saying to the family,"People like me are cancer, too much cancer in the body results in death. So I make sure that those who are good and support the body do not have to deal with people like me". I think it is a comparison to like America (community) and successful people that will progress the country and criminals that bring the worst out of people. I dearly love him and want to know if this is related to sociopathy or psychopathy so he can get help? I truly believe if the family does an intervention and begs him to seek treatment, he will do it. He is a genius and eccentric man and it would be a waste for him to use his skills incorrectly. I am worried that if he does ever get caught, he will go to extreme measures before giving himself up. He says,"once the pigs have your picture and prints, it is over."

[@Higher_beanz]

this is me I am just like him I am still a teen I was made this way by life and I was not born like this I just want you to know I don't think he was either I feel like your my mom describing me that's why I am genuinely telling you this that whatever life gave him that was the best way of dealing with it to him and me and I relate literally almost word for word I have never gotten help I don't know if I should or not If me and your son don't it's cause we know this is the way we need to live for ourselves if we don't the worst can happen to us and our own and this is the only way for that to not happen

[@Higher_beanz]

it's not a mask it's being how we need to be to best get through the situation simply and easily and in control and it is an acceptable way of doing that

[@Higher_beanz]

this is me I am just like him I am still a teen I was made this way by life and I was not born like this I just want you to know I don't think he was either I feel like your my mom describing me that's why I am genuinely telling you this that whatever life gave him that was the best way of dealing with it to him and me and I relate literally almost word for word I have never gotten help I don't know if I should or not If me and your son don't it's cause we know this is the way we need to live for ourselves if we don't the worst can happen to us and our own and this is the only way for that to not happen

[@Higher_beanz]

me and your son still do care we just really understand nobody else can care about us as much as ourselves but he's lik me cause he acknowledges innocence and he cares about you guys

[@zekeman7598]

Whatever path you take.....there you are. :)

[@andveeterfeuerstein6265]

Guilt, shame and empathy all play off of each other to some extent. If you can't empathize with someone it's more difficult to feel guilty about your actions. Also remember that not all psychopaths are after the pain of others this is only 1 possible motivator. Many psychopaths prefer to acquire vast amounts of wealth (CEOs, DRs, and lawyers are good examples). The pain is only a component of the whole that they desire - power.

[@xXGuitarMuffinsXx]

From good observations. They see what actions get people to respond positively to them so they can get what they want.

[@jaw1970]

For years now I never understood my brothers behavior out of all my family he is the one I’ve seen most. Something happened a while ago and it made me think about his behavior that was always put to well he’s your brother blood is thicker than water all that. Then I tried to have a conversation with him already having the feeling that something was wrong with him the reaction I got was totally amazing to me as in I couldn’t understand the reactions I was getting from him but now not just from watching this video but many more I understand he is a psychopath, but the strange thing is at first I was angry with him but when I actually dug deep into what psychopathy is I feel empathy for him. But if you know a psychopath you have to walk away because it is an unequally yoked relationship. I know it may seem hard but it’s a wall you cannot break through a wall that encloses you you are there for when it suits them to do work for them. I could go on there is so much to say but I pray that anyone Who has suspicions that they know a psychopath please walk away your energy and spirit will be sucked out of you. Thank you for reading this to the end.

[@Brxwn9]

Thank you, sir! Glad you escaped your brother.

[@jonathanrussell1019]

You are correct, the terms are more like a spectrum of extremity of the condition.

[@greeniem]

What I've used, as a criminologist, is that we use them interchangeably. Like, if you're a sociologist you'd probably use sociopath; and psychologists usually would use psychopath. But bob hare is the man to go to for this shit

[@kyviecaldges6041]

These two terms are honestly pop-culture terms used for arm chair psychologists. But yes, Robert Hare is the man on the scene when discussing an anti-social personality. If I was to offer a conjecture on the difference between a psychopath versus a sociopath, the psychopath is much more organized than the sociopath. Consequently, a sociopath is more likely to express their lack of empathy through impulsive anti-social behavior. They are scattered and fail to understand the long term effects of their behaviors. Psychopaths can think long term and if they do decide to express their lack of empathy through anti-social behavior then they will plan that behavior meticulously. They are much more reserved; however, when they break mentally with the accepted social status quo, they do it in a way that minimizes any legal danger to them and therefore can cause considerable damage when compared to the sociopath. A psychopath will fully express their lack of empathy because it is planned and not impulsive. They minimize all danger to themselves and their crimes are usually much more destructive and difficult to process than that of a sociopath.

[@RweyLing]

so a psychopath really knows what they done? They just don't care... and it's planned. And if this is, not all psychopaths are bad, right? Can any of them... like feel something for someone?

[@ZeldasSword]

RweyLing They feel things, just not in the same way. And by no means are all psychopaths bad. You’ve probably met one! 1 out of 100 people is a psychopath. But many jobs such as special forces solders, lawyers, and surgeons benefit from a psychopathic personality. If you don’t feel empathy, or “normal” empathy people in those jobs can preform better.

[@mpt686]

This guy has no idea what he is talking about. Robert Hare is an expert in psychopathy which Is not the same thing as antisocial personality disorder. Researchers are the ones that typically use the term psychopathy. Stop speculating, saying psychopaths are more organized only shows how little you know about psychopathy. There are many different types of psychopaths, they share many traits that lead to the diagnosis, but it doesn't mean they cannot also vary greatly. Source: I majored in Forensic Psychology.

[@RweyLing]

ZeldasSword Interesting, so they don't feel empathy, that's why most tend to be violent, right? and they don't feel like us... hmm kinda scary that they don't feel the same of people.

[@ZeldasSword]

I’m not saying they don’t, I’m saying they don’t feel it in a way we do. And they aren’t any more violent then a "normal" person. Also am I the only one who is confused since mpt686 says I’m wrong and then says the exact same thing I said with his closing sentence?

[@jralmeral7504]

Hi, I'm from Philippines. I'm a victim of a psychopaths or sociopaths in here. They are always humiliating, degrading and disrespecting me of who I am. I became poor and became a pedal cab driver. They are always keep on bullying me everyday. The prejudices and biases keeps on going. I never give up on my journey of this darkness in my life. I keep on fighting it's hard and they keep on criticizing me everyday it slowly kills me. :(

[@jbsmith3556]

dude, grow some balls and be a man.

[@oliviermosimann6931]

Oh boy... this broadcast explains a LOT about my ex-wife... interesting, but sad & spooky too.

[@KACZMARCZYK4369]

my family :/

[@mraccident]

It's interesting that they chose his picture. I pretty much learned to spot them, especially by the look and especially by the eyes. And I saw an old interview with him; and I kept thinking - is he... or not...

[@Bikewithlove]

This interview is a very basic explanation of psychopathy. In day to day life, a psychopath can be extremely subtle. They are capable of forming intimate relationships, but there's always something off about them. A psychopath I once dated for four years would always wake at 5:30 and sleep at 9, no matter what was happening in their life. They would never admit wrongdoing or apologize, and whenever a relationship need was carefully raised by me, it would not be acknowledged at all and instead I would be told of an issue they had with me - which was never brought up before - and any effort to steer the conversation back to my basic needs was in vain. This person would pretend to not understand even the most basic requests or thoughts of others (with grammar correction) to 'spike' their mood. To kill any group conversation about music, they would claim that they didn't understand music, despite the fact they had specific tastes in music and had a collection. The list goes on...

[@Bikewithlove]

koichi Ball - How do you know they're a 'he?'

[@katk3489]

this rings very true, thank you for sharing

[@n.c.6211]

What if he has Asperger's??? Psychopaths don't do routines that easily and are mostly night owls with a penchant for thrill... Aspies look like psychopaths because they truly do not understand others, they lack theory of mind. Are you super sure???

[@aungkyawthinn]

psychopathy is a coping mechanism for having a shitty life.

[@suuprasonic]

Lol exactly

[@leahaubrecht2976]

No that’s sociopathy Psychopathy is a brain disorder

[@moderatefkr6666]

Why the photo of Steve Jobs?

[@isaacaceves4637]

Because he is a high functioning sociopath

[@Scoring57]

@@isaacaceves4637 Unlikely. People can't seem to tell assholes apart from sociopaths 😄 Assholes still have the capacity for remorse and empathy. A sociopath would literally have to act it out. I don't see Steve Jobs being an emotionally muted individual.

[@isaacaceves4637]

Scoring57 Read his Biography. Btw a sociopath will feel emotion only with people he cares about personally.

[@LauraPerez-kr8bn]

it is because of the apple. Bite the apple, poissoned apple. White beauty fairy tale.

[@hollyconger9037]

@@isaacaceves4637 very accurate!

[@Markcgreer]

Once you reach a certain amount of success, you don't have to work. You can go enjoy your limited time on Earth. Great analogy, the John Adams mini series - when they asked Adams to be president, he declined, wanting to enjoy his golden years, but eventually he gave in and sacrificed his final years to lead a nation. Same with Jobs, he did it for the stock holders, for society, as a work of art, but definitely not for money. Working in to your final years is a sacrifice.

[@luciatilyard2827]

Thank you v much for uploading this. For the first time I understand the difference between a socio and psychopath. In some ways, it makes me feel that psychopaths are actually relatively innocent. It's really a deficit, in the same way that some have a deficit of intelligence, they have a deficit of certain emotions. They may understand that what they do is socially unacceptable on a cognitive level, but because they are missing certain aspects of personality don't understand (that what they are doing is wrong) on an emotional level, and also fail to recognise some things in other people. I'd wondered if that might be the case, and have cogitated on it for some while. This information has made me feel much better, - thank you so much!

[@age93]

The problem with your explanation is someone with an intellectual deficit struggles to comprehend behaviours, consequences, etc. An emotional/conscious deficit doesn't mean the person doesn't understand their behaviour or the consequences. You can not experience an emotional state but still understand and not want to do something morally wrong. They very much so have cognitive empathy many times, they know what they're doing because if it was done to them they'd react accordingly.

[@Zuwze]

"psychopaths are actually relatively innocent." I know I am 8 years late but what you wrote is incredibly naive. Psychopaths are fully aware of right and wrong, they just can't care. Psychopaths are extremely good manipulators specifically because they understand emotions and are capable of mimicking them. "It's really a deficit" This is the only good thing you wrote, yes psychopaths live a pitiable existence since they can't form genuine connections with people. With that said you should never believe you can help them or comfort them, they can''t be helped and they will only use you and hurt you.

[@andveeterfeuerstein6265]

In other cases it can also be the rush of excitement as well. Psychopaths are notorious thrill seekers. A good example are psychopathic pyromaniacs they burn themselves but keep playing with fire the risk only makes it better. Psychopaths bore easily and they have acute compulsions to avoid boredom coupled with their inherently low impulse control this is often why they may become sex/drug/alcohol addicts.

[@Defrock78]

no! your being used. the love was never there, nore will it ever be. one who hates themselves and is destructive to themselves will do the same to you. your first words should i lie should have been a no brainer.

[@stefannikola]

The whole list but definitely 1 through 25. I used the word sociopath but the definition of psychopath in this video describes the people on my list perfectly. Lying, manipulation, charm, lack of remorse, callous, lack of conscience. I would add irresponsibility. If only religion taught responsibility; it’s the missing foundation stone.

[@bentyreman5769]

I had a massive argument with my neighbour recently who claimed I am a sociopath to my face, he also went on to say that all sociopaths and psychopaths are exactly the same, the irony is that he fits ALL the signs of being a full on psychopath, it's extremely hard to ignore him, wtf do I do? I feel like fighting him but it might be a bad idea if he truly is a psychopath, he always seems to think he's right regardless of other peoples feelings of opinions and shows some extremely anti social behaviour.... very much a sense of extreme self entitlement, very intense stare, and very offensive and hard to deal with.

[@manictiger]

Obviously kill him.

[@thedarkmaster4747]

manictiger lol! i miss the ancient world.

[@jbsmith3556]

if your gonna fight him, you better be prepared that one of u guys, will end up 6ft under. Not worth it.

[@MeesterVegas]

Stand on the border of your yard and his, staring at his house, holding a dead cat by the tail.

[@sheilasydneynotyerbizniz2933]

What he's doing is called projection. Another symptom of cluster b personalities that can drive their victims crazy (as the cluster b projects themselves to be the victim).

[@sandro5535]

If psychopathy is trouble reading emotions (do you need to master emotional reading to be able to manipulate? doubt it) what is ASD/Autism related disabilities then?

[@chavez614]

Not many people know this, but there is no such thing as a sociopath. Psychopathy is a medical diagnosis with certain traits that a person must meet in order to be called a psychopath. Sociopathy on the other hand was a term used to describe the best type of environment that would most likely produce a person with psychopathic tendencies/psychopaths. However, over time people started to use sociopaty and sociopath to describe people rather than environments. The main reason people started referring to people as sociopaths is due to the whole nature v. nurture debate. Those that believe that nurture is responsible for how a person develops used the term sociopath instead of psychopath and vice versa. However, when you look at the origin of the word sociopathy it was originally used to describe the best type of environment that is likely to produce psychopathic tendencies in people/create psychopaths.

[@layld.6854]

what are mostly reasons for a person to become a sociopath?

[@DYKWINNING]

+Dolic Lejla Theres Little connection beetween the child and mother/ (other parental figure) from birth to age 2-3 for starters. The childs brain needs that connection to grow bonding/emphatic parts of the brain. Cases/people labeled sociopaths have been absused during that time as well. Probably little good attention though his/her life growing up. Those negative traits carry to adulthood. A Psychopath mind can be found in the BEST upbringing possible.

[@danrunion13]

neither are psychological terms. an antisocial person is the true "psychopath". thats the closest definition

[@paulamcgavin8008]

THANK YOU Alen Fejzic. The wide difference of opinion between defining what a sociopath is and what a psychopath is has been frustrating for me, and it always feels like the experts have never completely agreed on the difference either.

[@paulamcgavin8008]

danruion13--Works for me, since the what's a sociopath/what's a psychopath debate rages on (and on and on).

[@orangequant]

While browsing through a DSM about 15 years ago, I recall that the distinction then between psychopath and sociopath was that a psychopath committed criminal acts that frequently violated the rights of others, while a sociopath did not. But the video says sociopaths are the criminals. Wish the shrinks would make up their minds.

[@GottEddy]

Psychology is a pretty new field

[@Zuwze]

@@GottEddy And the mind is vast. People are very similar and very different.

[@adamcomedy5018]

As the smirk right there hints along with full restaurant menu of hints Steve Jobs was a sociopathic narcissist. Jobs was one of very few narcissists that did something useful for people.

[@luislol3995]

A real narcissist will use people as tools. Steve Jobs gave no shits about anyone.

[@blondthought5175]

According to my dictionary, the terms are synonymous. 'Psychopath' is just more fun to say, probably in no small part because of the movie "Psycho".

[@joannajones3833]

The more people know that these people exist the better. The more we know how to deal with them the safer we will be

[@jahaha7955]

Virus gets better, virusscan gets better.virusscan gets better, virus gets better. so iguess in the end, it doesnt really matter, in the end we will have super massive psychopaths, and huge massive empaths. -.-

[@TheStatisfiedOne]

i realize that the combination of my badchildhood, parents gene and surrounding made me like this, i realize how much support a child needs in the progress of theyre development till theyre grown up. people say u must be happy with who u are but i never asked to be born from them, i never asked to have a mental problem, depression, why should i live with something i couldnt do and have a almost misreable live and think: i must be happy with who i am. i think that parents shouldnt make children

[@mayc8674]

That would be me. I assume that ppl. can learn to have confidence and be happy in spite of everything that came before when they were kids but i see your point. I do believe many, many ppl. should never be allowed to have kids but unfortunately they are the ones having most of the kids. It's sad indeed. I am sorry for what happened to you and the way you had to grow up. I hope you are finding ways to cope.

[@TheStatisfiedOne]

@@mayc8674 Heey May. Thank you for your reply and support. it’s been already 8 years ago I made this comment. Time flies. My live has changed 360 degree now. A few years after this comment I met a person on my internship for my study, he was my supervisor for my study. He helped me grauduate but we also became friends, after my graduation he basically kept being like a supervisor to me in my personal live. I completely changed after. He helped me to start working for myself as a supervisor, i started to get multiple certificates and developed my social, work and relationship skills, I started to dress better, go to the gym, I became more and more confident in myself. 3 years ago me and that same friend opened our own care institution and it’s becoming very big in our municipality. we mainly give advice and guidance to young and sometimes adult people who have had suffering problems in their private life like us. In the last 4/5 years I have been to vacation to multiple countries, went to places I couldn’t even dream about. Iam also married right now and have a 3 year old son. My father died on December 2017 so I only have my mother now. After analysing my childhood with my parents, the experience working with people who have social problems, I realised that i can’t blame my parents for they’re lack of upbringing because they themselves didn’t got that upbringing from they’re parents either. My friend who was also my supervisor basically filled the holes that where empty in my development but most importantly gave me love and support. That was the most important part in my life I was missing. on the one hand it may also have been beneficial for me that I experienced this in my youth, because now I can try to avoid all the shortcomings that I had in my son. what my message to you is that giving love and encouragement can bring out the best in a person, but most important love. i have to be honest, money is also an important factor in our live but money comes and goes. Just keep working on yourself, keep a goal to yourself, and never let an opportunity slip out of your path. If you get a chance from someone to help you, you should take it. although that does not automatically mean that you will be successful in one go, but you will learn a lot from it and be able to apply that experience in your development. remember, you're more talented than you think, you just haven't been given the opportunity and support to make it bloom. but it will surely come, if you will continue to focus on yourself and keep in touch with those around you, don’t isolate yourself because you don’t know wich wonderful person you could get in your live

[@100302]

bin wondering of I have Antisocial Personality Disorder or thats what people call a Sociopath I am not sure I have autism and don't seem to feel empathy. I feel fear, hate, happiness and sadness as well as love but seem to not really be effected by the deaths of friends or family. I lie alot to get personal gain and use people to my gain. I don't usually work well with others and get frustrated easy / have a sort fuse. I don't manage time well either. I can tear up during a emotional moment free a few secs then it fades. I don't think I have cried my eyes out sins I was a child. The thing that bothers me the most is the empathy thing I just don't seem to care and I am not sorry for it even though I know I should but I feel nothing.

[@stdstrcpy5356]

Welcome, Sociopath o/

[@ripperx8202]

Okay wtf this is exactly me? So what are we lol

[@IwasBlueb4]

Lord Boneshatter.....I think these are symptoms of Autism....which seem to have things in common, with Antisocial PD. Most of these things are NOT your fault, but are simply symptoms.... It must feel strange being unable to feel empathy, when society expects it from us....I think you should be commended for your honesty in telling things how they are...You cannot help not feeling empathy, but you can CHOOSE not to lie for personal gain.... I know a young man who also has autism, who I see trying to use people.....I see him like a little boy of 6 or 7, just trying to get what he wants....But people shy away from him, cos they realize that he tries to use us....and they get tired of it.....Then they are nasty to him, which hurts him and makes him feel very upset and angry..... I truly think ul feel better about yourself, if you stop trying to use people, and people eventually see through the lies, so it doesn't end up well, in the long run.... Get what you want cos YOU do what you can to achieve it, but without lies, or cheating.....Then you will be proud of yourself, cos you, Lord, Boneshatter, achieved it with your own strength and pure heart.....Deceit is not pure..... Leave deceit behind you.....The empathy thing is simply not your fault.....If people don't understand YOU, maybe THEY lack TRUE empathy, !!! You ever thought about that?!! I wish you all the very best Thank you for sharing

[@SilasMortimer]

I agree that a psychopath has no sort of inherent evil and that a psychopath in fact does not necessarily have to DO evil. It's also true that it's far easier for them to do evil than others with everything else equal, but even then, what is evil (which implies more than a simple lack of ethics) can be difficult to define, which is PRECISELY why it's important not to abandon the concept to the religious. They don't handle it thoughtfully. Other than that, it appears I agree with you. Mostly.

[@Bobby007D]

People want to believe that they can identify and differentiate between a psychopath and a sociopath, as though they will have some special talent to LABEL ,who is what , or what is who. The fact being ,there are , COMBINATIONS , of traits of both , in every variation , in , ALL people. Except me of course ! However , I have learned that a true psychopath will kill animals , without a second thought and display absolutely NO empathy.

[@josemarquez2010]

BOBBY D you sound like a sociopath

[@IwasBlueb4]

BOBBY D... I studied that a psychopath is BORN with the frontal lobe of their brain different from empaths....whereas a Sociopath develops the difference in the frontal lobe, when exposed to extreme abuse, when a small child....My husband is one or the other, I don't know which....but he doesn't kill animals....only fish...purely to eat....not out of some sadistic kind of pleasure....He adores our dog and has done all his dogs ....He doesn't like people, v antisocial, but likes animals....wouldn't kill them, at all

[@LordHadesCerberus]

Evy Courtney Your husband is neither.

[@hollyconger9037]

"they use manipulation, deceit, and charm to swindle u out of money". This is the most common scenario I have seen. They never feel guilt.

[@Txboy85A]

Okay... Why is there a picture of Steve Jobs up there?

[@RazorBladeAppleFilms]

Because he was a perfect example of a successful primary psychopath. He lied, cheated, and manipulated others to succeed.

[@peopleinthechat5324]

RazorBladeAppleFilms he was an utter bastard on an interpersonal level too.

[@RazorBladeAppleFilms]

deadprivacy Yes, but hey, made a damn near perfect computer, haha

[@peopleinthechat5324]

RazorBladeAppleFilms if you want to pay through the nose to a company who amalgamated and destroyed the companies they absorbed. then yes.. same with microsoft really...its based on linux in any case is IOS or OSX or whatever they relabelled it as. linux is the perfect os...cos its free...in more ways than one. apple products are like 911 porscjhes , they look good, go fast but when people look at you who know their stuff? they think "wanker".

[@RazorBladeAppleFilms]

deadprivacy I don't really care who they screwed over, the end result is a great computer that processes video like a beast. I love my mac. Coming from windows it's a breath of fresh air.

[@SkunkFearless]

Interesting, thanks for the upload.

[@KennethDambrogi]

Anyone familiar with the study that showed psychopaths were perfectly capable of empathizing when instructed to feel so? It was a single study conducted in the Netherlands so it's only a small seed in what could be what revolutionizes how to approach anti social personality disorder. Here's a fun question: is Western civilization becoming more or less empathetic as time goes on?

[@danaedwards1499]

Some people are both ...trying to always draw this line is ridiculous

[@Jaromethehunter1717]

I'm a sociopath, I found out about a year ago

[@Jaromethehunter1717]

I in joy killing, I'm not going to deny that, I can't help myself

[@letsgosurfing416]

Horror would be my specialty I'm calling bullshit on that one. Or else, fucking prove it, internet tough guy.

[@Jaromethehunter1717]

How could I prove it

[@writemynameinyourblood]

Horror would be my specialty Based on that statement you made there, it's quite obvious you're lying. "I in joy killing, I'm not going to deny that, I can't help myself". I honestly think you're a wannabe sociopath because you think it's cool. Just like your name. "Horror would be my specialty". As if you're bragging about it. Sociopaths don't brag about being one. They don't care if they're a sociopath or not.

[@Jaromethehunter1717]

You could be right, I actually didn't care about this subject until I started watching these videos and if I was lying why would I say I was a sociopath, sycopaths are better in just about every way, it wasn't even me that started even thinking about sociopaths and sycopaths, it was a friend, he said that i was showing lots of aspects of a sociopath, but i didnt even believe him then, im not even shore now, im just saying over time i thought he might be right, i show no empathy towords anything, i started killing when i was much younger

[@Querent2000]

It's a redefiniton to say that psychopaths are not the same as sociopaths. Historically, the two terms were interchangeable. It's only recently that some have tried to distinguish the two. Anyone has the choice to accept this redefiniton or not.

[@MrRancidmeat]

Your voice is close to badger's, ya'll know who I mean

[@VictoriaWonders]

I'm a sociopath, I like it! I don;t know why

[@letsgosurfing416]

The amygdala sounds like the key. Thoughts?

[@MrRancidmeat]

Possibly, or perhaps a lack of function in the medial prefrontal cortex

[@casperseesghosts5108]

people tend to freak out when I tell them I'm fascinated with Serial Killers, Psychopaths, Sociopaths, and other people of that type, doesn't mean I support killing, just means I want to understand there mind, how they think, why they do the things they do, what makes them tic, these are just things I NEED to know :) its really interesting actually.

[@dossier9442]

Holy shit - is this a forum of experts? What a bunch of unsubstantiated claims.

[@chimi1924]

1. Nervous system is relaxed. No fear. 2. Charming. Way to groom the pray. 3. Plan ahead. 4. Dont feel. Knows how to imitate by observing. 5. Brain structure same but activity is different. 6. Sense of entlitement. 8. No moral compass. Regrets to be caught 9. Manipulators by means of studying preys and mirroring feelings 10. Shallow relationships, dont go deep 11. Difficulty in decision making 12. MRIs show the response to angry or emotional pics. Reduced response in the Amygdala 13. Trouble processing information 14. Lack of conscience

[@ks2884]

Steve Jobs was a psychopath? Interesting, interesting.

[@ITILII]

So by the definitions given for psychopath and sociopath, bankers and politicians are both :-)

[@Markcgreer]

Jobs knew that to create something truly amazing that would change the world would require great effort and sacrifice. He believed that if you are going to provide customers w a product, you owe them your best. He pushed himself and his employees to the limits. Jobs declared war on mediocrity (fuck yeah!). No one was forced to work for Apple, and I personally would gladly work under him as I too want to push myself and be pushed to my limits.

[@zompa3456]

Im a sociopath but I don't kill...I just don't care about people but I'll never kill anyone unless its in defense(which anyone would do)so yeah a psychopath just will NEVER show any emotion but I can still feel like love and hate but I genuinely don't care about those around me so if you want any answers feel free if you want to hate feel free I will just ignore you like shit

[@oberynmartell818]

wow i was always interested in stuff like this but do psychopaths feel any emotions now or what

[@zompa3456]

There is a HUGE difference psychopaths never show emotion because the brain is wired in a specific way sociopaths are made through mental abuse,choice or any reason...thing is psycopaths are more aggressive sociopaths tend to be antisocial and cold but we can still feel emotions such as love,hate etc...hope this helped

[@oberynmartell818]

thanks it did it got tottaly confused here on yt

[@oberynmartell818]

great now im confused again

[@zompa3456]

im not a psycopath...i choose to be this way i do care about my sister just not everyone else

[@SilasMortimer]

I'm not an 'antirealist'. This is what science IS. It's not a political platform, it's not a dogma, it's not a collection of data - it's a process. And that process says that we cannot know anything for sure, we can only whittle away untruths to get closer to the truth. This is one of the advantages of a scientific approach to knowledge over a dogmatic approach such as used by religions and, apparently, yourself. Science is ever ready to change in light of new evidence.

[@deannalovesss]

Trump ???

[@justinw1765]

+Pear Melg He seems more like a narcissist, which is not far from psychopathy, but narcissists can have twinges of felt empathy, guilt/remorse, emotions beyond the adrenal like ones (meaning they can experience sadness, joy, etc) etc. But they are still very egocentric, lack deeper, felt empathy and consideration, are very selfish, and tend to be destructive to others and society around them. They also tend to lie and manipulate a lot as well. Because i've had spiritual and nonphysical experiences, i tend to view things from that perspective, and my intuitive sense is that those who are consistently narcissistic, if they don't start changing their ways in this or other lives, they will morph, or rather, devolve into full blown psychopaths, where there is no love, no empathy, no goodness left within. Not to say that psychopathic types never do good, but they never do it out of empathic, inner positivity, love for others, and non selfish intentions or reasons. They do good to maintain a mask, to fit in, or because it's expected of them. Such as a psychopathic police officer or the like. But most, if they think they can fully get away with it, will do things that cause harm to others if there is self gain involved. Only the really maladjusted ones really get off on hard core destruction and causing suffering to others, as a motivational sense--the serial killer types whom lack impulse control. It seems that most psychopathic types are just extremely emotionally cold and dead inside, a very gray existence where while they can feel adrenaline rushes, can't feel much else. This leads to not caring about much, especially in relation to other beings. It's hard to say for certain, but it seems like Trump is closer to the narcissistic spectrum than the full blown psychopathic spectrum. However, it's not like there is a wide gulf between the two, and narcissistic types often still cause harm to others and society. I tend to think of it in terms of spiritual growth and evolvement, all in relative relation to pure Love. It's like there is a spectrum of consciousness that exists from 0--total lack of attunement to pure Love, and then 1, 000, 000 on the other extreme, which is full attunement to Love. Few people come close to this, but while i'm not religious, i would say that Jesus comes closest to representing that pure Love side of the spectrum. Narcissists would definitely be on the much lower end, closer to the 0 than the 1, 000, 000 but they still have some fluidity and range back and forth some. The average psychopath, is even closer to the 0, and has become more rigid and fixed and is on a path of getting closer to the 0 side of the spectrum. Most people can be found somewhere in the varying degrees in between, but i think most, at a deep Soul level, are trying, even if unconsciously, to get closer to the 1, 000, 000 end of the spectrum. Some sources that i respect and trust say that, while it's rare, a consciousness can get to that 0 point, and essentially end up destroying themselves--they lose consciousness coherency, and experience a true and final death--complete loss of self awareness, self consciousness. This is because Love has entropy lessening effect and creates order, structure, harmony, connection--it's an organizing influence. Severe lack of Love leads to entropy, chaos, and randomness.

[@fukushimadaichi415]

God???

[@argonaaut]

+Justin Whitson What do you mean by 'other lives'? Serious question.

[@justinw1765]

The concept of reincarnation, but not the standard concept of it. As mentioned earlier, I've had a fair amount of nonphysical type experiences--some of which I experienced coincidence and synchronicity way beyond chance. A couple of those experiences dealt with "other lives" i.e. past lives as commonly called. One experience involved another person, and a degree of corroboration that blew both of our minds at the time. One thing that I'm fairly sure about from the combo of all my experiences over a couple of decades is that Consciousness lives on after physical death of the body. But I have come to view traditional reincarnation as a somewhat rare occurrence. Does happen sometimes, but there is another process that is more common.

[@IwasBlueb4]

Interesting Ty

[@reginaldbraithewaite5833]

It's interesting that some of us still dislike Steve Jobs so much that we want to make him the emblem of psychopathy. And yes, based on events conveyed in Jobs' biography, you can find the signs of narcissism in his behavior. But that doesn't make him a *malignant* narcissist, psychopath or sociopath. It did make him shockingly selfish in ways his friends suffered but tried not to see. Even so, he wasn't engineering Bernie Maddox schemes. The Jobs Distortion Field was not a spree of easy larceny even though he stole certain ideas, even though the Field could deceive. To be sure, Jobs had some disturbing traits. His fondness for parking in physically impaired people's spots does look like the perverse need to get over on someone, to take pleasure in cruelty, that we associate with sociopaths. But the effect is more annoying than wounding and he probably was a classic narcissist. His rejection by his birth parents did seem to break his sense of self-worth -- so that he had to exaggerate it -- even though his adoptive parents were kind. But that is one of the problems with laypeople's use of these terms. Everyone we dislike or resent, every politician who seems insincere or advocates unfair policies, gets called a sociopath. The word becomes a synonym for anyone who's cruel or uncaring in any capacity. Still, aren't we in the best position to understand a pathology when we aren't enraged or enamored with the person who has it? I grew up with two clinical psychologists in my family and we talked about this a lot. The psychopath you recognize from a distance or in an impersonal or clinical situation -- without being convinced you're their victim, or dealing with the shocks of a more devastating connection -- is often the one whose behavior you see the clearest. By observing the stages of manipulation from some remove, by noting the outcome of what can be a Jim Thompson-like ballet of betrayal and social carnage, you learn to recognize not only clinically but empirically how the most dangerous people you'll meet are going to behave.

[@davidbaker3889]

Informative video for taking notes.

[@Zhawq]

Thanks for sharing this video. It's a good description, I hope you won't remove it, I'd like to use it for an article at some point. '^L^,

[@1Viqing]

A clear distinction between Sociopaths and Psychopaths is still disputed, yes. That doesn't mean that it shouldn't be made. Science need time to prove the "clear distinctions" of a given subject - until then it's "partially hypothetical, partially substantiated", but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be informed about it; these distinctions are informative and important, whether a consensus has been reached about them or not.

[@Markcgreer]

Your statement kinda reminds me of the Salem witch trials. Society has a profound misunderstanding of psychopaths. They think they are "evil". Not true, they are evolutionary diversity. There is no such thing as god, hell and "evil". Only natural evolutionary behaviors. Psychopaths have a natural ability to be steady under pressure. They make the best pro athletes.

[@Markcgreer]

To achieve something great, you have to be very direct with people. You have to stop being sensitive and keep your eye on the goal. To an outsider, a person could seem rude or mean, but to the insider, you are communicating on another level. I would know, I created 2 dot coms that dominated their markets.

[@sicktoaster]

Also "almost impossible to learn the difference between good and bad behavior" if you can't read someone's facial responses. That doesn't make any sense. Can most psychopaths read? Understand speech? There you go. There are multiple sources that show what good and bad behavior is, not just people's faces. Also, surely a person should have more of a reason to behave well than fear. As I love moral and philosophical topics I'm well acquainted with them. If they just lack fear then it should be just as possible if not more common to wind up being a fearless defender of justice rather than a fearless villain.

[@mindassassin]

Knowing and understanding are two different things though. It's not that one wouldn't know that their actions are morally wrong to some degree, but even knowing that it's somehow "wrong" they wouldn't understand why. They wouldn't feel remorse or guilt from doing something "wrong" nor would they feel the fear of being punished for it somehow. The only reasons people have to be good are unpleasant sensations like guilt, or fear of the repercussions. Without either of those things there's just no reason to be good aside from keeping appearances or for personal gain. Also a psychopathic mind can indeed be adept at saving life and not just taking it (so to speak). Come to think of it one example might be Dexter Morgan. Granted its' only a fictional example, but still it serves the purpose. Any "normal" person wouldn't be able to take a human life so casually, even knowing that it would save countless others, but no matter what human emotion or morals might say about it, by murdering murderers he inevitably saves far more people than he kills.

[@sicktoaster]

@ mind assassin What a horribly grim view of the world you have. I would feel bad for doing bad things, but it is the thought of everyone being generally happier, healthier, and just a better quality of life that is the true drive for moral behavior. There is the natural aesthetic of "good" that intrinsically promotes good. I suppose if what someone would love is to see misery and destruction in addition to not feeling bad about anything bad they do then that's when you'd get the psychopath. I'd imagine someone who doesn't feel bad for doing bad things but who is still attached to the aesthetic ideal of "goodness" would be somewhat of an inconsiderate douche but would avoid anything terribly evil and would rise to the occasion to promote the big good things when they can. If the only reason for because of negative emotions then I would only be being good out of fear and that would make me feel like a slave so I'd start conditioning myself towards no longer feeling those things. Fortunately there is a higher more meaningful reason for me and for most of us to be good.

[@mindassassin]

sicktoaster So then you also have the incentive of pleasant sensations as a reward for being "good", but my point still stands. When people see someone who's happy, they themselves start to feel happy, the same is true of sadness. So that's why people want to see other people being happy, because it makes them happy, and they don't want to see someone being sad because it makes them sad. Someone who can't quite recognize the body language of someone who is happy or sad, and can't quite mirror the sensations of being happy or sad on the other hand, has no incentive to make people feel happy, and no consequence for making them sad. Also that doesn't mean they would actively try to incite pain or suffering on others, that's just impractical. Decisions are made based on one of two things, either emotion or logic. The mind of a psychopath is stunted in terms of processing emotion, which leaves logic. From a standpoint of logic, there is no such thing as "good" or "bad" such things are emotional responses. Logically we as individuals have no obligation to anyone other than ourselves. Being selfish just makes sense. It's not more than basic survival instinct, I look after me, and you look after you, and maybe we'll both get out alive.

[@sicktoaster]

What about if one couldn't recognize it on the go but when one sits and actively imagines people feeling happy it makes one happy? Logically people's interests may intertwine. There is such a thing as enlightened self-interest. Someone could be purely logical and behave like a saint just because the conditions are such that that is their self-interest. In fact based on what you've said we have to conclude that all the Vulcans are psychopaths. They just figured out how to structure their society and their teachings in order to create conditions where being good is logical.

[@mindassassin]

sicktoaster Is that still being "good"? To clarify I do mean that as a legitimate question and not a rhetorical one by the way. Can one be "good" based on self-interest, or does it have to be based on empathy?

[@bethjbrannon4114]

I have learned so much, confused on psychopath/ SOCIALPATH!!!!!!!

[@Chuschannel]

According to the definition given by the narrator, virtually every person is a sociopath and/or psychopath. Impulsive, no empathy for others, need for excitement, shallow emotional life, use of deceit and manipulation, lives a nomadic lifestyle, etc. Everyone does that. I think what they really mean is sadistic criminals who get caught versus the rest of us who haven't committed any serious crimes.

[@peopleinthechat5324]

not at all Mr Kim, not at all. psychopathy is a neuro dvelopmental disorder and they are downright criminal in there behaviour even if they dont commit actual crime. they are inheently deceptive criminally minded and manipulative. we are not all psychopaths. not by a very very long stretch. www.kcl.ac.uk/ioppn/news/records/2012/May/The-antisocial-brain.aspx

[@sicktoaster]

@ Tommy And what if a person doesn't make decisions based on "feelings". Or would making decisions consistent with feeling guilt and without ulterior motives to portray oneself in a certain way for advantage automatically count as "feeling guilty"? In short what is meant by the word "feeling"? Does it need to involve bodily sensation? "Feeling" is a fuzzy term.

[@blazebrown7961]

I know I'm either a psychopath or a sociopath, probably because of my early childhood, I had trauma that was never treated, and I was molested by a adult. I used to be very emotional about people, then one day, I just didn't care, now people are just building blocks to me, I use them until I don't need them. I remember morals, they got in my way and we're annoying. I only tell you all this so I can brag about it.

[@nickharley2344]

Blaze Brown Same. I was severely neglected, beaten, and starved as a child. Even carried off into the woods and beaten to near death at 7. I don't remember when I felt, I believe I was born this way.

[@Markcgreer]

So was coach Bobbi Knight. Jobs didn't yell at them for his own benefit, he yelled to get them to better for themselves, for the customer, for the shareholders, for the world.

[@jbooks888]

"no such thing as god, hell and evil"... now them's fightin' words.

[@andveeterfeuerstein6265]

Good question... Power could fall under multiple categories. Most likely need for security in some cases. Though no one said the psychopath may not want something else. Often it's a repetitive cycle of Desire - Pursuit - Acquiring and subsequently losing interest in the object in question. Everyone is susceptible to this but the psychopath does this with power more then cars. They may buy that shiny car if they think it gives them more power but it's still power the feeling of control they want

[@sckuaicdk]

I care so much about what other people think, I feel emotion actually I feel like twice as happy or sad as normal, mad 100 times and when I'm angry it's another story it's like I want to tear the entire world.

[@HecticsChannel]

I do too, but sometimes in situations when i should be really sad, i can just ignore it and fake it to appear normal. I notice i put on a charm when i am talking to other people when i want something from them, and it sometimes helps that i have attractive facial features, but that might be my sociopathic ego talking.

[@sckuaicdk]

HecticsChannel i have borderline personality disorder and social anxiety, and its pretty common i just need to learn how to control my anger, although if i do it hurts my brain thats why i really need to release the build up feeling of heat and steam inside my head. I often shout or break things just whatever on my reach. i never hurt anyone physically but emotionally yes many times.

[@Moodboard39]

@@sckuaicdki feel u

[@denisehorn6252]

I personally agree with Dr. Hare. A psychopath is extremely intelligent, but is limited in intelligence when it comes to understanding the boundaries of others and having the capability of being an integral part of society. A sociopath can be a drug addict who steals; lies, charms, to gain for their survival; a true menace. But, the psychopath is perfectly capable of making a living and participating in society, while hiding the hideous and ill-intentions toward others. They seethe deep down inside; they are true predators, and feel that they are entitled to anything and everything without earning it. And, they will stop at nothing to get what they desire from others, while the sociopath can be content for periods of time, and lacks the hatred and vindictiveness toward other people. Psychopaths do not seem to be able to rest from their need to harm other people and have absolutely no feelings or regard for anyone, including their own family.

[@Bijoubee7]

Dr. Hare used to say Psychopaths relate to emotions in the way that they know the appropriate emotions but don’t feel them. They “ know the words to the song but they can’t hum the tune”. True emotion is shown in the eyes. For a psychopath if you covered up the bottom half of their face you would have no idea what emotion they were try to portray.

[@SusieQSydney]

Personally I have a hard time believing it's only 2-4% of the population it's seems a heck of a lot more then that unless I've been really unlucky probably harder to get away from familiar related people and they seem to make up one's world.

[@sakurastone7333]

Please do not hate all sociopaths. Without them, our world would not be so advanced and nice to live in. Sometimes they are doing it for the greater good.

[@sakurastone7333]

If Dexter existed ... :(

[@Blackkitten16]

It definitely seems that way, but the issue lies more with the description than the actual condition. Sociopaths and psychopaths are different, despite the interchangeable use of the terms. One lacks the cognitive ability to feel empathy (leans more toward heredity), while the other can feel emotions, but to a lesser extent than most people. Most serial killers are not insane or psychologically disturbed at all, and kills by psychopaths are more likely to achieve some non-emotional related goal.

[@absolutelynothingtoseehere]

Robert Hare doesn't really draw a distinction between psychopath & sociopath, so this title saying the video is about that is not correct. Hare says the terms are often used interchangeably, but that some researchers prefer one term or the other depending on what they see as the root cause of the condition. Even so, they're still talking about the same phenomenon.

[@kellygrondin4655]

Spect imagery is interesting research too. Dr. Daniel Amen.

[@nonsensicalsoul7787]

is there stages in being a psychopath does someone loses their conscious all at once or loses them one by one. cause not all imply on me but some and some are just happening to me !!!!!!

[@xdexterous26x]

I think they are reiterating what exactly a conscience is because people who have a conscience are almost unable to really comprehend what it is to lack one.

[@jbooks888]

Who knows what God does with the psychopath? He judges us by the light we have received.

[@SilasMortimer]

One could apply that logic to anything human beings do. But the reason we have the concepts of good and evil is that our cognitive ability allows us to observe actions and set standards for them. What confuses people is merely how *easy* it is for a psychopath to do evil acts and treat others only with as much respect as is beneficial to the psychopath. While that doesn't HAVE to be the case, it takes more effort for psychopaths to avoid that evil than those who have well developed conscience.

[@CHEYwasTHEBEST1andOnly]

THANKS FOR THE UPLOADS.

[@terredee]

Horror and Daft: you will pay for your thefts and the associated harm you 'can't help yourself' from causing. Don't care? Doesn't matter. You will suffer for your crimes.

[@1Viqing]

I've never heard that there hasn't been provided an argued difference. The argued difference is that a Psychopath is incapable of empathy, and doesn't require a history of abuse (more genetic and a brain-anomaly), Sociopathy more often occur along with a traumatic history and the Sociopath has burried emotions and empathy or/and has learned to supress or ignore his emotions/empathy when "necessary". R. Hare almost always presents this distinction in all of his public appearances.

[@UkeGirl100]

So... how do I tell if someone I know has psychopathic tendencies? The person acts as if they have attachments to some other people, but sometimes I think this is just a clever ruse. I think the person may have narcissistic personality disorder, but I'm not sure if they care about other people, or if they're just fooling me. How can I know?

[@beezlbobdestraint6869]

I don't think he sacrificed his life, he just caught cancer.

[@helmihartono664]

So sociopaths are not violent in terms of murder? I still have trouble defining the two apart. I know there IS a difference, I just don't understand what they are.

[@jessegreco8855]

A psychopath is neurologically incapable of feeling genuine emotion, including remorse and empathy. Because of this, they are shallow, superficially charming, manipulative, and all around terrifying as hell. A sociopath is then a criminal of intense degree that has to utilize those symptoms as tools to get their job done. They aren't symptoms to them, because they can still potentially process emotion, remorse, and empathy. So then, the real difference is the neurology. A psychopath has the symptoms because his/her brain is wired in such a way. A sociopath does not need the symptoms, it's just a descriptor.

[@HurricaneGabby]

All these descriptions are essentially wrong because they try to predict behaviour of a psychopath or sociopath. A sociopath may never commit a crime. Simply someone who cheats on their spouse with no remorse may be a sociopath. Sociopath is merely a subtle distinction for a psychopath who's still capable of feeling some types of empathy, but generally chooses not to or has it mentally blocked out due to trauma. Sociopaths are typically, but not always, "made" from the result of past trauma. Cultural assimilation can also create sociopaths, such as in street gangs or violent religious beliefs. A sociopath can become a psychopath if he loses the ability to emphasize completely. Psychopaths are exactly the same as sociopaths, including a wide spectrum of "types", except they were born that way, and never had an ability to emphasize. Due to genetics, or birth defects, or other, we're not sure why, it starts from birth. Otherwise, there's no real difference. Sociopaths may have strong empathy when they are exposed to situations, such as a gang member might have for the children of another dead member's children, but the empathy that might prevent a normal person from killing, for example, is permanently turned off. In contrast, a true psychopath wouldn't empathize in any situation at all, ever, but still tend to be very good at pretending they can. Both types can be very manipulative and good at faking empathy, which makes them very hard to diagnose. They can often fool polygraphs completely. Neither types are curable. Any attempts to "cure" either type can result in extremely violent behaviour. Theoretically, a mild sociopath could come to terms with his/her initial trauma, and slowly regain certain degrees of empathy, but it's highly unlikely a sociopath would ever desire that to begin with. Avoid both types at all costs, you can't help them, and both types are parasitic in nature. Use caution.

[@ehiskhaleradio]

helmi hartono i just think they are almost the same.

[@Hugatree1]

That picture of Steve Jobs bears a striking resemblance to Patrick Bateman. Or is it the other way around?

[@timeisrunningoutforthebeast]

Thanks

[@donkeydudeful]

(Disclaimer) You're beautiful. Love the radio interview you have posted.

[@johnmorrell3813]

I don't think Robert Hare was saying anything about Steve Jobs in this clip. That's someone elses picture and editorial comment.

[@Heatseaker19]

But Dr. Blair explains it well at 5:30 The difference between not being able to care or notice and just choosing not too seems quite critical. I'd say its the only prerequisite.

[@g1a1r1y3]

I bet none of those books were scientific texts or the DSM manual. The confusion arises because most people and their knowledge are not technical. The term "sociopath" is no longer officially used. The only two terms are psychopathy and anti-social personality disorder (ASPD). However people's thinking and information may be dated and imprecise like the belief that cold weather causes the common cold or that "the space shuttle exploded". No disrespect meant. ; )

[@xXGuitarMuffinsXx]

Conscience is a feeling of what is right and wrong. People with ASPD don't feel like what they're doing is right or wrong. They can recognize what is "right" and "wrong" because of consequences, but they don't feel the difference. A normal person would normally feel extreme guilt if they stole something from a store. There's a feeling going on. Whereas people with ASPD wouldn't feel anything at all. They recognize that society has labeled the behavior as wrong, but they don't feel it.

[@Moodboard39]

Anything. Even pride, lie, don't accept the truth. U and I no different.

[@alexauman2111]

It's a little misleading to say that psychopaths and sociopaths are different. They are different to Robert Hare in the way you describe, but it's more a matter of definition. Martha Stout, the psychologist and author of The Sociopath Next Door, describes sociopathy in the same way that Hare describes psychopathy. Many psychologists refer to psychopaths as violent people who are psychotic and violent while sociopaths are defined as those that display anti-social behavior and lack empathy. We just need to be clear about what we mean by the term when we talk about them.

[@libertatemadvocatus1797]

Yes and no. The terms are often interchangeable, but they are distinct. Think of a Sociopath as basically like a toddler or an animal like a dog or a cat in an adult body. They want what they want without considering the consequences of their actions on other people, they're selfish, they're prone to fits of rage, but they can still show affection to certain people or certain groups. Also, a Sociopath is less likely to try to keep on an elaborate con for extended period of time. They're less dishonest about their motivation. It's the reason why they think Sociopathy is mostly caused by things like having your worst impulses rewarded as a child (think of a criminal parent or growing up in some wealthy home where you're never held accountable for your actions), childhood abuse, and being exposed to frequent criminal behavior. A Psychopath is almost always predatory or parasitic. They try use to use everyone they come across. They have no attachment to anyone but themselves. Their family usually means nothing to them except to view them as possessions or extensions of themselves and family members are usually discarded with little ceremony when no longer useful. Psychopaths will construct elaborate ruses and sometimes even completely new personas as they have a poor sense of self (as what exactly defines them as a person beyond naked self-interest) and some can keep the ruse up for years. Also, there's evidence to suggest that Psychopathy is primarily something someone is born with as these traits are present at an early age, occurs in all types of households (as opposed to mostly dysfunctional families as with Sociopaths), and they have significantly different brain chemistry.

[@alexauman2111]

@@libertatemadvocatus1797 I think we are engaging in equivocation right now. As I said before, it really depends on who you are talking to. In this case, Robert Hare and Martha Stout describe the exact same type of person with two different terms. But when most psychologists talk about psychopaths, they don't mean someone who is relatively normal in demeanor. Psychopaths typically have hallucinatory delusions and cannot discern reality from fiction. Whereas sociopaths don't have hallucinatory delusions and can lead a relatively normal life. Sociopaths in this framework are identical to the psychopaths you describe. Basically, we just need to understand which definition someone is using.

[@TheEloquentEye]

Sociopaths lack this monumental leap in human evolution. I would argue that they are just highly intelligent predatory/parasitic animals. Without a host the sociopath would get very very bored indeed.