Robert Jordan interview (December, 2005) - Fast Forward - Book 11 - Part I

[@guilhermeferraz9954]

Love that the interviewer read the book and didn't made just empty commercial questions

[@moonstonevision]

Come on now, I have read both the Wheel of Time and Song of Ice and Fire, and they are both excellent and addictive series. Besides, what's all this competition about anyways? Remember, while JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis both wrote Fantasy genre, they also frequently met as friends, and shared their stories with each other. I'd like to think that a discussion between Martin and Jordan would probably be friendly. Stop hating and enjoy. And if you don't, then eff off with your nastiness.

[@IchibanOjousama]

Jordan helped Martin's career, it's a fact

[@jasonsalter65]

@@IchibanOjousama In A Storm of Swords, Lord Trebor Jordayne of the Tor is mentioned by Tyrion Lannister as being one of the great lords of Dorne. Also there's is a mention of Archmaester Rigney who theorized that time is a wheel. James Oliver Rigney, Jr. was Robert Jordan's real name.

[@benhuether5474]

I wish he did more public interviews (like Martin) before he died, he seems like a really nice guy.

[@JeffPenaify]

he was too busy writing lol

[@mrsevve1017]

Rest in peace

[@tipoomaster]

Wish he could have lived to complete the series, by far the best fiction series I've read.

[@warrioroftheworld01]

I love both - they are both wonderful reads, both written by two great geniuses. They are very different though which is what I really like about them!

[@MCshowuhz]

3:13-4:59 = WISDOM!!!!

[@CarlosFunes2012]

All hail The Creator!

[@Zemoch93]

Why are people comparing GRRM and RJ ? WoT and SoFI are really really different .Magic in SoFI is barely developed compared to WoT . Time goes by like 100times faster in SoFI , the language and expressions are different . I loved both of them but for different things .

[@Bobaganush26]

Best fantasy series ever wrtten hands down!

[@CapitalMort]

I hope someone makes an encyclopedia of everything from WOT thats would be epic.

[@AzizSikdar1995]

We might disagree here, but I actually think the first few Wot books were a lot better than Song of Ice and Fire. Eye of the World, Dragon Reborn, Shadow Rising and Fires of Heaven were all terrific books...I think since then WoT books have dropped hugely in quality but I still think Eye of the World betters most of the Song of Ice and Fire books...

[@Sealwithwificonnection]

Those first three books are very good

[@AzizSikdar1995]

There IS no book series anywhere as nearly developed as WoT's. Even Tolkien's unrivalled LOTR was not as developed as this nor was the language so nearly as enticing, I find comments here about RJ disrespectful, he's inspirational and I love his writing.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

*FOUR* of the *Forsaken* have _Disliked_ this video....

[@maxassasin911]

Robert Jordan is Batman! holy shit im reading a book series by batman, my life is complete.

[@BRoyce69]

"that last scene you've talked about for so many years" I'm pretty sure he'd spent at least 6 months actually writing it in his extensive notes. 1. The Last Battle (ch. in AMoL/Book14) - ~81,000 words 2. H.P & The Philosopher's Stone (entire novel) - ~78,000 words and its still one of the best chapters in literature despite having like a dozen POVs and 80,000 words

[@jinkino]

Makes sense, as the amount of notes he has rivals how long the series is itself

[@amaxamon]

Genius.

[@hackamore]

Three was the best, by far, IMO.

[@ThreatFromAbovee]

damn i want some prequels

[@flawlessvic]

Yes I would really like to get the two prequel novels.

[@No1emilybrowningfan]

Same. Just read new spring and thoroughly enjoyed it

[@derrickjohnson7896]

@@No1emilybrowningfan Lan looking towards the Blight at the end of New Spring, and his warrior's return there years later in A Memory of Light, was so wonderful and sobering for me.

[@FlourescentPotato]

@Folp9 He let the plot get bogged down with, 'Oh no, we're really sad', and, 'Oh, no, look at all this bad stuff that is happening.'. I might go and read them again though.

[@PantisMantis]

Remember folks; don't feed the trolls.They will eventually move on and go spread their hate to something else. Stay strong WoT fans.

[@Professor_Bugs]

What is it with epic autors walking with sticks. J.R.R Tolkien - stick R.R martin - stick Robert Jordan - stick Is there a stick of destiny or something?

[@hierkonnteihrewerbungstehe5587]

The stick helps with their imagination.

[@buzzwithdrip6347]

they are old??

[@Gorboror]

I really did enjoy this book.

[@TheGojira84]

Oh the Theon scenes were what made me finish the book as well. I was just trying to make a statement ASOIAF isn't much better off.

[@Kaidaten1234]

If WoT only went on for one or two books after TDR, the series would've felt terribly incomplete. Not to mention that fitting all the prophecies and Min's foretelling into it would've made it feel rushed. By mentioning GRRM I hope you don't mean ASoIaF, because they were rather unmemorable. I've only read Druss the Legend from Gemmell and I cannot really remember anything from it other than the name and the cover.

[@burritosenior]

@FlourescentPotato 7 perhaps. But 6? 6 was probably my favorite up until 12! I found it dull in the beginning, but that book really picked up.

[@AzizSikdar1995]

I don't want to really admit it but yes after book six he dragged it on all the way up until book 11, he should have somehow merged books 7-10 in one books by cutting out the nonsense...personally I find the Seanchan utterly insignificant and irrelevant to the general story. but I still love his books because they, after Harry Potter, were my first big new read of a fantasy series that no-one in London was raving on about...and his writing is breathtaking at times.

[@Kaidaten1234]

You seem like a very bitter person. If I could've gotten 20 books written by Jordan, I'd take it in a heartbeat even if I had to wait more than another decade to see the story finished.

[@srobertms89]

@Satakunta No, they really don't.

[@PantisMantis]

You know what I hate more than tolls? Fat trolls. Trolls that write a lot of negative stuff about what/who they're watching. If you don't like it then don't watch it. It's really easy.

[@Satakunta]

@Ryu DUUUUUH in my opinion. Just as my post was a reaction to Bobaganush's OPINION. You don't seem to have cottoned on to how these youtube comments work, have you?

[@MrPeni1]

Down under kiwi land I got to read a book every three years Brandon Sanderson ended a book only Robert Jordan could have ended this world he created for me RIP

[@gothicel]

@08mohawk Brandon Sanderson and Jordan's wife.

[@AzizSikdar1995]

It just doesn't seem fair or right that this epic journey that he began, he didn't get to finish just as we were getting to the end... There's a huge noticeable difference between Sanderson and Robert Jordan's writing style, Jordan uses greater description and metaphors and Sanderson is your modern-day literature writing. It shouldn't have been like this.

[@thematman92]

While I agree there is a noticeable difference I still think Sanderson did as fine a job as anyone could have finishing the story.

[@nachikahn4923]

@@thematman92 wow this was late

[@nathenism]

if you want another great series try gene wolf's book of the new sun...the only story i like better than the wheel of time...

[@kennethbgoodin]

@Sp00ny1985 Couldn't have said it better myself; LoTR was good, but it has nothing on the pure emotion, description, and plain realism of WoT. WoT feels like a living, breathing, world, with the most in-depth characters i've ever seen.

[@Bobaganush26]

And opinions are like assholes, everyones got one!

[@moonstonevision]

I agree, and its so pointless for others to come here and exert their personal opinions on fans that end up here because they like WOT and Jordan. It makes no sense. Talorganoengus, If you think that he really is a "hack," then why are you wasting your energy coming to this page and acting like an elitist asshole? You are the type of character that GRRM would crown like Viserys, or that Jordan would balefire into oblivion when you act in this manner.

[@Sp00ny1985]

@rabbilsikdar Have you read LoTR...? Excellent books, as influential as any in literature, but can be soooooo boring. And the hobbits are walking. There is grass (described in a short 5 paragraphs). There is sky (described in 6 short paragraphs). Enter inane dialogue. Then lets do some more walking. Wash rinse repeat. Yeah, I'll take WoT, or some GRRM.

[@DarkKar]

I'm not sure we read the same books, my dude.

[@jeffrags2]

Look at that stack of books - lolol

[@Antifaith29]

I honestly think Jordon got a little lost in his wheel of time series. Way too much forshadowing. Still, thats just one persons opinion and i dont claim to be an expert. theyre enjoyable enough but i think it went on for longer than it needed to.

[@TheGojira84]

It really depends on peoples opinions. I personally like AFFC but thought ADWD was godawful.

[@guilhermeferraz9954]

Same. I love the Brienne and Jaime chapters. ADWD was boring as fuck.

[@frodofraggins]

He could have told the story in six books if he focused on the key areas like tolkien did in LOTR. I think the show has a chance to be the editor teh story needed.

[@ericmiller931]

Make an excellent point. Tolkien was way ahead of his time. We are still discovering and reliving Tolkiens world.

[@Kaidaten1234]

I haven't read A Dance with Dragons yet, but is it as much of a snoozefeast as A Feast for Crows?

[@sebastian114]

wheel of time wiki

[@brisbanetim]

Developed by that you mean he signed for 6 books then realised his books were Best-sellers so then thought if I write a heap more books and delays the story I'll make more money, then yes I agree. If Jordan had finished at 6 books and condensed the story so that there wasn't so much repetitive stuff it would stand as one of the best series. Sadly he will be remembered as the author that people gave up on.

[@misterbaybers4013]

When I meant by writing, I meant mainly by Theon's chapters. I don't think a single WoT book can compare to the sheer tone of those scenes. ADWD was the worst in the series and a pretty meandering book at times but it was those chapters that made me finish it. I enjoy the WoT series, the first six to be precise, hell I even liked A Crown of Swords but books 8 to 10 were abominations in fantasy literature.

[@Bobaganush26]

Why do I need to address your points? All your points are opinions and not facts. Obviously you know nothing about how his books were published and why they where prolonged. It's your opinion. and its a dumb one. Thats my OPINION.

[@TheGojira84]

Yeah Tyrion getting shit on by a fat dying guy. Really great writing! ADWD was a bad book no way around it. and I love ASOIAF. A Storm of Swords is my favorite fantasy book of all time. It's just there's almost nothing good about ADWD. Heck I think AFFC is great compared to it.

[@No1emilybrowningfan]

I agree. I feel the exact same way

[@FlourescentPotato]

Still no denying that 6 and 7 were very nicely written, pointless, boring dull notes.

[@misterbaybers4013]

Whilst I respect your opinion, I would have to disagree. With WoT, I found escapism, something to enjoy when putting down a history book or so. But then the writing and plot got to me. The characters were generic and the plot cliched. With asoiaf however, I found a world relate able with the intrigues of Rome and the epicness of Shakespeare's plays, each character was multi-layered, it was a story generally about the human heart which why I prefer it over WoT. I do however enjoy WoT though.

[@Satakunta]

@ Bobaganush26 Robin Hobb, Donaldson's Thomas Covenant, George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire...beat the heck out of WoT!

[@TheGojira84]

Lol did you not read a dance with dragons? That book is worse than the middle WOT books in terms of pacing.

[@ACColorado]

Book 12 was the best, but I still hate his cover art.

[@brisbanetim]

Tolien... Martin.... Gemmell... At least they don't fill their books with repetitive crap. If I am on book 5 I dont' really want to go through a whole chapter about what happened in the last 4 books or repeatedly see Nyaeve tug her braid.

[@brisbanetim]

Yeah good response - doesn't address any of my points. Go back to school.

[@brisbanetim]

Yeah they are different - Martin doesn't insult fans by stringing out the story to 13 books. So many paragraphs are cut and paste in Jordan's books. He spends whole chapters explaining what has already been said - his editor should be fired.

[@MrPorko2c]

Tim Clare nah he just insults his fans by not writing them at all.

[@misterbaybers4013]

Please tell me you're joking. ADWD was certainly dull in its pacing but it was an incredibly well written book, something that all the WoT books suffer from. Don't get me wrong, Jordan was fantastic story teller but he was a piss poor writer.

[@brisbanetim]

I am not bitter. I just don't suffer authors who think they can extort their fans and make them pay for 13 books when it should have been 4 or 5. Read George R R Martin or David Gemmel - every paragraph has something in it - the story never lags. That is why Jordan will never be considered alongside the greats.

[@brisbanetim]

It isn't opinion that he wrote that many books. I am not the only person who has voiced complaint about him stringing out his books. Why don't you go and read some reviews from both readers and book critics? He did end up writing 13 books - well 12 and a half. It is a FACT he cut and pasted paragraphs from previous books and used repetitive lines over and over. Lastly, yes you do have to address my opinions and stated facts if you reply to me - that is how debate works. Again, go back to school.

[@brisbanetim]

George R R Martin... Tolkien... David Gemmell... All better than Jordan heads and shoulders. Jordan COULD have been there but he abused his fans by prolonging the series to make more money. This series should have ended at 5 or 6 books. He is the Bryce Courtney of fantasy.

[@captainofthelemonwipes4160]

How can you say he abuses his series with longevity then compare him to Martin? GoT isn't even finished and it has a television show that ended up running out of it's own source material. Some of the pacing in WoT was difficult to get through; I agree, however, the series at it's peak retained more than enough quality to keep me engaged until the end.

[@fmfagan]

In MY opinion it's pointless to trade verbal barbs back and forth over who is the better author or what's the better series or book. Your comparing apples to oranges. Instead of bashing who's is better, I think both the authors and the readers would be better served if fans would simply say hey if you like Jordon's WoT then try "x", it's fantastic!