Robert Russell - Imagining Immortality and Eternal Life?

I'd like to live forever. Who wouldn't? But what would living forever mean? What would we do? Almost every religion offers life after death, in one form or another, as a reward to the just. What are the similarities and differences among these diverse afterlives? What would immortality and eternal life be like or feel like?
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Robert John Russell is founder and Director of the Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences (CTNS). He is also the Ian G. Barbour Professor of Theology and Science in Residence at the Graduate Theological Union (GTU).
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[@OneGeekStudios]

This is why I'm agnostic. I find it hard to believe that anybody can say with absolute certainty what will happen; whether god exists or not.

[@paulm5443]

I find the term agnostic a bit superfluous as I think everyone is agnostic about a God or gods. People can pretend they know because of a strong conviction or belief, but they can't know, just as an athiest can't know that gods don't exist

[@k-3402]

I agree with Paul. I think most people are either agnostic atheists or agnostic theists. Those are the most honest positions to hold, in my opinion, with atheism probably being the most rational view.

[@kryjerlip7986]

Then why don’t you just ask God? If your sincere enough He will definitely respond. In the meantime, contemplate on the creations around you. How is it that everything we have come to known and see come from nothing? Contemplate on the seasons and the cycles of life and how lands go from barren/lifelessness to fertile and full of life and back to barren. How is it that this theme of cycles and circles can be found in literally everything? From the structure of the atom to the galactic orbit and everything else in between. “So observe the effects of the mercy of Allah - how He gives life to the earth after its lifelessness. Indeed, that [same one] will give life to the dead, and He is over all things competent.” (30:50) Believe it or not even our sleep is a sign of an afterlife. Why do we even dream? Scientists propose many theories on this but no one knows for a fact why it happens. What does Allah say on this? ˹It is˺ Allah ˹Who˺ calls back the souls ˹of people˺ upon their death as well as ˹the souls˺ of the living during their sleep. Then He keeps those for whom He has ordained death, and releases the others until ˹their˺ appointed time. Surely in this are signs for people who reflect.(39:42). Death and sleep here are considered similar to one another. This is further confirmed when Prophet Muhammad PBUH said “sleep is the brother of death”. So now begs the question, if sleep and death are similar then wouldn’t that mean that there is something after death? If we’re able to have out-of-the-body experiences every single night then what makes it hard to believe in another type of out-of-the-body experience after death? Just a food for thought. I humbly request that you read chapters 30 and 39 of the Quran. It elaborates more on what was said and is definitely worth pondering over. I pray that Allah guides you and open your heart.

[@paulm5443]

@@kryjerlip7986 think you are struck with wonder and ignorance. Everything we see didn't come from nothing. We don't really understand what nothing is or even if nothing is possible. Just because we don't have all the answers doesn't mean we should say or accept God did it, or arrogantly proclaim which particular God did it. Was it the Christian God, the Islamic God, the Norse God or the Greek or hindu gods. Nature and the universe are so much more interesting when you realise that all of the man made gods are made up fairy tales.

[@rotorblade9508]

@@kryjerlip7986 what came from nothing ?? There is no such a view in the scientific mainstream Life origin is probably a spontaneous event in the proper environment possible in the presence of some crystal formations given the extreme amounts of atoms and molecules on a single planet and the vast number of planets within the visible universe. Such an event is somehow mysterious and hard to replicate but at least looks plausible. Then you can go to the question of the origin of the universe itself. Certainly there was never a state where nothing at all existed since such a state would not evolve into anything. Time could have a starting point at say t0 and if that was the case a point before t0 would not exist although intuitively you would think it was possible. For example a parameter can be found to exist on a circle. So you can only locate the parameter on that circle because ot doesn’t exist elsewhere. Being unable to go back in time not even in principle before t0 is counterintuitive but it may be some truth in this idea. But these are poroposed hypothees, nobody knows exactly what time space matter light and other stuff are. Also nobody can guarantee we will be able to find answers to such questions. Theists claim they know a big truth about the world when in fact everything they know has no value. At least science admits it doesn’t know everything and simply proposes solutions that can be tested, what can’t be tested is not fully accepted as fact.

[@messenjah71]

God creates only the perfect and the eternal, and you are a creation of God. Since bodies come and go, it follows that you are not your body.

[@encyclopath]

Or that we are not of God…

[@messenjah71]

@@encyclopath Yes. Only in illusions can we believe otherwise, and this is what the Fall was. A beak in communication with God and each other in favor of the illusion of separation. In truth it could not happen and did not happen, yet that we believe it did is evident in the world we see.

[@Jay_Weed420]

why are the comments hating on this man? whatd yall think was going to be said and or done in this interview? “there is a god and an after life, heres the proof.” smh

[@jonjoyk5130]

Don’t you understand we’re immortals that create simulations to live in where we have no recollection of the fact we’re immortals

[@alphabeyta]

Like Alan Watts said "So in this idea then, everybody is fundamentally the ultimate reality, not God in a politically kingly sense, but god in the sense of being the self, the deep-down basic whatever there is. And you are all that, only you are pretending you are not.

[@thomasjohnpaine8443]

Only you remember. Lol

[@jonjoyk5130]

@@thomasjohnpaine8443 I cracked the code

[@andrewforbes1433]

_“I don’t want to give the impression that this is all thought through.”_ Don’t worry, you haven’t.

[@johnconnor8373]

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[@bajajones5093]

clueless persone

[@ilianamarisolromero7816]

I think he is referring to the truth being felt at a deeper level but words are limiting, because when you name things, ideas, concepts then you end up getting stuck in the questions AND the frustration of feeling like we´re always searching, which is the fun part. I like how he integrates both science and theology. "The observer is the observed" according to Quantum Physics. Just an opinion that helps me sleep like a baby.

[@andrewforbes1433]

@@ilianamarisolromero7816 It is certainly easier not to name things, as one can then enjoy the comfortable shield of dithering ambiguity.

[@ilianamarisolromero7816]

@@andrewforbes1433 not him, lots of people? Yes. So you’re right, most of us do dwell in that duality and the suffering even when knowing the truth about how not to. Still though, I feel like he reached that Nirvana state and it shows. I love eastern philosophy and science, but I had a huge disdain for any other organized religion, even resentment, and would love getting in debates and thought I was right and the others weren’t. But this guy is the first “believer “ I heard explain eternity in a mystical way. But the point I was trying to make is that language is creation, well there’s an element of creativity, and it’s endless, one question leads to another, millions of possibilities also. I did noticed a very subtle trembling in his voice and he also cleared his throat twice when he went vague in some description though. Well, anything that asks us to explain a non physical realm puts us in a difficult bind. Maybe we all are Sisyphus… :-)

[@mannykotti1249]

Heaven will be great for the first 350 trillion years, then it’s probably going to start to get a bit old.

[@moranplano]

Good point...Religious Heavens all seem to be FROZEN in their concepts. Most SOULS avoid them. Rather, it's best to go to the UNIVERSAL HEAVENS that are constantly EXPANDING in JOY and WONDER. It's also great to become a CO-CREATOR and begin exploring your OWN HEAVENS and sharing them with others, as others share theirs with you. A PERFECT GOD has a PERFECT CREATION...we are part of that creation. Blessings..

[@peaceonearth351]

IDK. We wouldn't have a human brain.

[@gabrielamanu1139]

THE FUTURE, OUR FUTURE IS BRIGHT...

[@itneeds2bsaid528]

First Law of Thermodynamics; energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Which means everything in your body, every energy particle moving through your brain creating your thought, has been around since the big bang, and is eternal. Science is beginning to see the bigger picture. Hopefully we have the courage not to turn away.

[@Lalakis]

You have no idea what does the first law of thermodynamics mean. Yes your energy will become carbohydrates to be consumed by the insects,plants,rodents as well as heat ( if for example you are cremated). Energy is preserved just fine. New age mumbo jumbo has nothing to do with thermodynamics.

[@itneeds2bsaid528]

​@@Lalakis That one's Genesis 3:19. "For you are Dust, and to Dust you will return."

[@Lalakis]

@@itneeds2bsaid528 So deep.... You needed a holy book to see that physical bodies turn into dust ? Did you just quote a faerie tale book as evidence ? Ok my turn now . The fellowship of the ring 4: 22 “All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” - Gandalf.

[@Stinkbug08]

@@itneeds2bsaid528 If you are saying that events in Genesis correspond with natural law, then what would you say is the scientific analogue for original sin?

[@itneeds2bsaid528]

@@Stinkbug08 Original Sin? Dude, you don't need science. Just turn on your TV. Or TikTok. Hell, go through this comment section. Look how many people take time out of their day just to find an opinion they don't like and vomit on it.

[@ruslanpetrovski8413]

Aubrey de Grey is researching on aging reversal, and therefore eternal life.............

[@homerbartshow3101]

Just because you say something is real doesn’t make it real the resurrection is stupid the person is dead!what do you mean he’s beyond space and time!

[@chrisgreen8803]

Is there life after death? Yes, just non of it includes you

[@francesco5581]

or you, maybe everyone have what he wishes for !!

[@estuchedepeluche2212]

Eternity is when you have to get to the bathroom and all the lights are red as you drive to the nearest one.

[@MrSanford65]

I think In a more direct route; The subjective feeling in the afterlife is simply the same universe but stripped of the barrier of the flesh, and at a smaller scale. Once the illusion Of separateness between us and the environment goes away, then its a direct contact with the essence of our environment. And I say smaller scale because the essence of everything is always a tiny speck of what separates it from everything else. In our case its the flesh

[@GlenfordR]

He is trying but the back-flips over the ultimate problem which is relying on belief over proof or anything resembling it. The brain does love to live in its own imaginings and this man lives there.

[@bartomiejkulesza3688]

Hi is not aksed to proof it but to answer the question and if you think hi live in imagination how do you know it isnt your imagination and he is right and your thoughts of him being wrong are what your brain love?

[@GlenfordR]

@@bartomiejkulesza3688 You make a good point, which of us is imagining and which of us is not. To that I would say, which of us are questioning our own truths and willing to accept one that is not held by belief alone. For me that is the problem I have with religion. If you ask five religious' leaders from different religions to give you one reason you shouldn’t believe in God, you will never get an answer. I you ask five scientist who believe in string theory to give you one reason you shouldn’t believe in string theory; you will get more than one.

[@ManiBalajiC]

@@bartomiejkulesza3688 He is imagining it , there is nothing outside the physical world. Once your brain stops, the reality dies.Its just dark world for eons, one who worries about death wants all new world to live forever.

[@bartomiejkulesza3688]

@@ManiBalajiC i know thats popular point in athesim i wanted to say that we are all invidual person with own truth belives , humans with just a bit of knowledge of our existence and everything around us. I understand what is point of atheism but i was talking about "imagination" i was talking about exceptesion about what reality is and i think we cant answer multiple questions and that makes belives and the imaginations will be our reality till we get answers.

[@embecmom5863]

@@bartomiejkulesza3688 because what would be the point of making a show asking questions if our imagination has already imagined him being wrong.

[@warrenbarnes9653]

Mr. Russell seems like a very nice, thoughtful person, but I do not find any insight in his comments that reconciles the physical and spiritual worlds.

[@MrRamon2004]

I wonder if you can imagine eternal life, I think you can, yes think as a particle. In this life and the next one stay in the light.

[@Monster_Mover_Stocks]

Come on. We all should know that whatever human being you discuss spirituality with doesn't know anymore than the next person about what does or doesn't happen after we die. Everyone just regurgitates what they've either read or have heard. They are just baseless and/or unprovable personal opinions. In the end, it gets us nowhere closer to the truth than where we are today.

[@thomasjohnpaine8443]

100% correct. I like this series but I feel like I just wasted 10 minutes of my day.

[@AtheistCook]

As an atheist ex born again christian that loved the lord mighty jesus, now that i use logic and reason and i no longer have invisible friends, I can say that the nature of belief is very powerful. i used to believe in all those outrageous claims of invisible beings coming to save us.

[@bobleclair5665]

It seems more likely that we believe our future into existence with our thoughts and imagination,, visualizing our future collectively is getting to be a challenge

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

Reference to BIG-CRUNCH in the Quran at Quran 21:104. Quran 21:104 The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat it. [That is] a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it. Pickthal Translation of the Quran, it is maybe a reference to Wormhole, at Quran 70:1-2. Quran 70:1 A questioner questioned concerning the doom about to fall Quran 70:2 Upon the disbelievers, which none can repel, Quran 70:3 From Allah, Lord of the Ascending Stairways Quran 70:4 (Whereby) the angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day whereof the span is fifty thousand years.

[@ACE999]

"I'll see you there. Not if I can escape!"

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

Quran 4:82 What, do they not ponder the Koran? If it had been from other than God surely they would have found in it much inconsistency. Quran 3:85 Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him; in the next world he shall be among the losers. Quran 5:3 ... I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But as for him who is forced by severe hunger, with no inclination to sin (such can eat these above-mentioned meats), then surely, Allah is Oft¬Forgiving, Most Merciful. Quran 33:40 Muhammad is not the father of any one of your men, but the Messenger of God, and the Seal of the Prophets; God has knowledge of everything.

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

Indeed God acted regular way by saving prophets when they were in near death danger. When you study history of many other prophets before the Jesus (pbuh), then Islam makes far more sense. When Prophet Jonah was thrown into the ocean, he was supposed to be drown and dead but God saved him from near death. When Joseph was thrown into well, he was supposed to be drown in the well and dead, but God saved him from near death. Likewise Prophet Noah supposed to be drown in the flood water, but God save him from near death. Moses was chased by biggest military ever known to Moses, but God saved Moses from near death. Prophet Lot was forcefully escorted to safety and saved by angels, when wrath of God sent down upon Sodom and Gomorrah. Prophet Daniel supposed to be eaten by lions, but God saved him from near death. Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was chased by pagan-arabs but God saved him from near death. As per the Quran, Jesus was not killed nor he was crucified but it was made appeared to the enemies and God saved Jesus (pbuh) from humiliation, torture, nakedness and near death. Quran 4-157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

[@ericfan9149]

Disease and earthquakes are only “bad” from a very human perspective. They’re as much a part of this reality - neither good nor bad - as raindrops and sunshine. Our bodies host 1-3 kg of bacteria, which we actually depend upon to live. Will this “good” bacteria be allowed to persist in this new reality? I hate to sound overly harsh, but the anthropocentric wish-fulfilment of these arguments strikes me as very incoherent, naive, and childlike.

[@ptgannon1]

When you start off by assuming the existence of the thing that is being questioned, you lose any semblance of adherence to the scientific method. Aside from faith (pretending to know things you don't know) and belief, Russell has squat, and he should have been pressured a lot more. I like that bit about Jesus being both inside space and time and outside of it at the same time. There's a Nobel Prize for explaining the physics behind that! He essentially suggested that God could change the laws of nature to suit himself. QFT (quantum field theory) tells us with exceptional confidence that there are no interactions from god/devil/soul/ghost fields in our natural world, or we'd know it, or still have unexplained interactions - which we don't. If he's saying that God can change all that with a wink of his eye, then he's saying God is a liar, a magician, an illusionist, allowing us to see something that is patently false because everything is actually a product of god-magic. There are no laws of physics that coincidently match with the orbits of the moon that is actually carried by angels; our natural laws are just an illusion and God is the magician - the deceiver. OK. If you say so. I figured out quite some time ago, that if the Judeo-Christian god was real, he was not "good" as we understand that word. Deception, along the lines of hiding dinosaur fossils to test faith in Creationism, is not typically described as "good" and Gen 3:22 tells us we know what good and evil are. I'm going to go with the natural laws, rather than accept that there's a lying, deceptive god out there.

[@lamia1956]

God is technology! Technology can give you eternal life, or whatever you wish! But what slows down technology and progress is money (living with trade)! The solution: the alternative sistem to monetary economy, it is called 'Resource Based Economy' (RBE)!

[@MarlonDeNiro]

I visited heaven in a sleep state one nite. It was surprisingly just like life on earth only the bad things never happen and every decision we make is the right decision for that moment. If we have to decide between doing our homework and scoring a gram of cocaine, we always happily choose to do the homework. Looked like here. Felt like heaven.

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

Robert Russell said "Paul gave us images" as though Paul was a prophet of God. Cut the BS Russel, Paul is nobody. According to Islam, it is the Paul taking to you to fire.

[@jibkas]

I can answer this question much more in detail, because Quran talks in great detail about it. You will get imaginary answers based on the answerers imagination if asked from Christianity. There is no detail about eternal life in Bible. Christian faith speculations will not answer the deep answers your soul is seeking.

[@ChuckBrowntheClown]

Just a thought theory like with the expansion is what if the core expands in the Earth? You get a bunch of volcanic eruptions and earthquakes correct?

[@nikosnasiopoulos6222]

Entropy is the reason for life and death for all cosmos, nice stories if you need them to stare into the abyss and not go mud... but please for the love of god stop saying desert shepherds 3K years ago knew more than scientists of today, that's at least blasphemy... (see what i did there? :P)

[@michaelshortland8863]

I can not believe in the reality of a God. I think God is an invention of man who has evolved a brain that seeks agency in the world and so he manifests God's. The ultimate agent.

[@encyclopath]

If God had to sacrifice His only son in order to redeem mankind, what will have to die and be reborn to save and redeem absolutely everything else in creation?

[@EmeraldView]

I don't get the point in talking to someone who's just going to make shit up. Especially something that has so much baggage and a massively evil history.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Maybe cosmos and general relativity heading in direction of new earth, consciousness and theology in direction of new heaven.

[@johnconnor8373]

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[@chrisgreen8803]

Wishful thinking is a wonderful thing. It’s not true, but it’s powerful

[@ajsirch]

Apply it to yourself too

[@stevecoley8365]

Mozart, Van Gogh, Einstein, Bob Dylan, Hitler and many others endure the ultimate test of time to become immortal... Me. Not so much. I'm okay with that.

[@k-3402]

Actually, in the long run, even their contributions and accomplishments (and atrocities) will be nullified by the "death" of the universe. You just can't win I tell ya..

[@name5702]

When you call the death of millions of innocent people in gas chambers a contribution to humanity

[@k-3402]

@@name5702 Note that I said atrocities, too... Standing the test of time can definitely be a bad thing.

[@paulm5443]

@@name5702 Who said that? Who are you quoting? I can't tell.

[@name5702]

@@paulm5443 hitler and ww2 and also mostly all of human history since leaving the trees in Africa

[@mintusaren895]

Other wisely. Have you allowed to say. Beginners theory.

[@B.S...]

This episode - Throwing bird seed to the pigeons...

[@Azozeo]

Jesus, didn’t bring nothing back from the dead.

[@flappoid]

Something very satisfying, almost vindictive I a way, to hear a guy espousing "God", implying a benevolence, and in the next few breaths refer to eating the flesh of a tortured sentient being.

[@Monster_Mover_Stocks]

Most people, especially the religious, are total hypocrites. They are slaves to a man-made ideology that places man at the top of the food chain both figuratively and literally. If a bear or a big cat kills a human, they can't have that and run out in masses to destroy it. How dare another lifeform feast on one of our own they decry while totally ignoring the flesh of another lifeform on their plate.

[@rons5319]

@@Monster_Mover_Stocks Are there any ideologies that are not man made?

[@CAVEDATA]

There is more texture beyond the fillet.

[@fredbmurphy]

Omnibelevilence doesn't exist. No more moral choice and moral free will in the Christian afterlife, no need of morality; from an omniscient God that has no free will because He always knows what He'll do.

[@CAVEDATA]

@@fredbmurphy youre equating God to man there. As if God a competitive being.

[@johnconnor8373]

Here’s your answer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ2vf3moqd2nm7M

[@RLomoterenge]

What’s with the question mark on the title?

[@AndreiStoen]

Rofl they come up with more bullshit.

[@publiusovidius7386]

How sad. That's what desperately clinging to barbaric, primitive mythology looks like. Based in infantile psychology. Daddy will make it all better in the end.

[@Adeptus_Mechanicus]

Look at you! So quirky and arrogant. Can you not deduct anything from the talk of bronze age deities? Is it not interesting to learn about the implications of social constructs like Yahweh or Allah? Social constructs like the tooth fairy are merely children's tales. Social constructs like Yahweh (deities) are much more complex. They should be respected and learned about with a scientific and dialectical mindset---afterall, these religions played a role in the development of different cultures and societies across continents. In doing that, we can better understand religion, rather than dismiss it like ludicrous and pompous contrarians that the broad masses detest at not one's edification. Your many rude messages here serve no meaningful purpose.

[@publiusovidius7386]

@@Adeptus_Mechanicus lol. Look at you! Aren't you quite the self-righteous scold. Studying the gods and goddesses is fascinating. Especially from a Jungian perspective as aspects of the collective unconscious. Talking about them as if they are literally true is foolish. Which is what religionists and their apologists do. People thinking Apollo and Dionysus are literally true gods deserves mocking. As do those you believe in Yahweh and divine Jesus.

[@rons5319]

@@publiusovidius7386 14 year olds always know more than their parents.

[@publiusovidius7386]

@@rons5319 lol. Depends on the 14 year old. Depends on the parent. A lot of 14 year olds have parents who believe in a lot of weird nonsense that even a 14 year old can see through.

[@Adeptus_Mechanicus]

@@publiusovidius7386 I am honestly interested how you conclude mockery is constructive in any context.

[@TheUltimateSeeds]

If eternal life is a possibility, then the only logical purpose for our eternal existence is if we could each create and maintain a universe out of the fabric of our own being - just as God has done. Indeed, what do you think being "created in the image of God" actually means?

[@johnconnor8373]

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[@bluelotus542]

Most christians are so deeply identified with their physical cages that even though Jesus disappeared from the physical world after his resurrection, they still dream a physical eternal life.

[@estuchedepeluche2212]

All we have is our physical cage, when was the last time someone without it talked to you?

[@moranplano]

If only people could Realize themselves as SOUL, these questions would answer themselves. I've recalled countless Past Lives. The body dies....we (as SOUL) live on. The Universe will collapse, but all SOULS will go on to Higher Dimensions. The Universe will be recreated, and the SOULS that still need further schooling, will return. This world is just a School for Soul. That's why it was created. It's a very well run Training Academy. There aren't any mistakes...just Souls getting experiences they need to go further. BLESSINGS..

[@rotorblade9508]

Still holding to the idea that not only there is no immortality but our “soul” only lives for an instance of time like for example 1/60 seconds. I don’t see how the “soul” continuity is preserved. Of course anyone can believe it’s immortal but it doesn’t make it true

[@HussainFahmy]

*_Every Atheist should look into the mirror and ask themselves - (A) Did I come from nothing or (B) A creation of an intelligent being? If you choose option (B) then consult/research the Noble Quran._*

[@Lalakis]

Who gave theologists and religions the right or the credentials to talk about life ? Their dogmas and holy books ?

[@williamesselman3102]

Social media employee

[@adobemastr]

Not to be picky, but there was an obvious microphone failure going on here. The gentleman asking the questions microphone was either not turned on or something else happened.

[@ChuckBrowntheClown]

That's why whenever we go down into the ground that's a seed being planted for either Jesus or if we choose not Jesus if you choose Jesus you grow again if not then you don't.

[@binecz1]

All we know is that we will die and turn Into dust.. Just like your dog or cat The rest is all wishfull thinking, because most people want to live forever, of course What people tell, is one big deception and only from the imaginary.. Life itself is a great mystery and there is no one who knows

[@holgerjrgensen2166]

Mr. Kuhn, You dont die, but soon or later, You'll wake up from the Living Dead. You are Immrtality, You are Eternity, Look 'inside' your self, You are the Only One to confirm.

[@edholohan]

You're nuts.

[@rotorblade9508]

If I assume the soul is immortal the fact is I don’t remember anything from the past so I’m not sure if this is the type of immortality has any advantages over a single life, also I don’t see any way to figure out whether immortality exists or not, I don’t see reasons why it should exist

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

Nonsense

[@Azozeo]

Fucking insane

[@jamesnordblom855]

It seems that whatever we imagine in mass we create eventually. So, how many qubits do you imagine ?

[@jellojiggle1]

1 John 3:2 - Beloved, now we are the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be; but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is. 1 Corinthians 15: 51 - 57- 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@AtheistCook]

I cannot rationally believe in any magic book written by men with no middle school, no high school, nor even kindergarden. Schools did not even existed back then. those primitive ideas cannot be taken seriously

[@jellojiggle1]

@@AtheistCook You have a right to your opinion and you are free to choose as you wish. Good day sir.

[@straizys]

is Lawrence still an atheist? cause it starts to seem to me he's not anymore :D anyone knows?

[@jorgemartinez1335]

Closer to the truth of what this channel is really about: religious dogmatism. Why bother interviewing physicists if there's ultimately no interest in basing your questions and statements on actual evidence?

[@sentientflower7891]

You cannot base mythology upon evidence otherwise it isn't mythology.

[@embecmom5863]

how can you look at where to start to investigate if God exists if you dont speak to people that believe in God?

[@sentientflower7891]

@@embecmom5863 that people believe in God is well known and therefore doesn't merit investigation.

[@simplicityistheultimatesop6571]

71-13 What is [the matter] with you that you do not attribute to Allah [due] grandeur - Saheeh International 71-14 While He has created you in stages?1 - Saheeh International 71-15 Do you not consider how Allah has created seven heavens in layers1 - Saheeh International 7-16 And made the moon therein a [reflected] light and made the sun a burning lamp? - Saheeh Internationalol 71-17 And Allah has caused you to grow from the earth a [progressive] growth. - Saheeh International 7-18 Then He will return you into it and extract you [another] extraction. - Saheeh International

[@AntiTheist_Atheist]

Really?

[@ujjwalbhattarai8670]

Light is not fast hope next episode will be about light

[@VladyslavKL]

🖤

[@patrickmchargue7122]

See you all at the Eschaton!

[@rickwitten]

Usually when I hear fantasies being taken this seriously, it’s a conversation between children. Watching two grown-ass adults have this conversation makes me embarrassed for my species.

[@thomasjohnpaine8443]

I have yet to hear a theist say anything about their beliefs that sounds even remotely believable. Why would anyone even entertain such nonsense?

[@JonesTonesGuitar]

It’s bizarre that people cling on to these stories….I can’t find anything in religion that makes any sense to me.

[@rodbrewster4629]

...and he knows all this how?

[@fo0l913]

It’s easy to disagree with the religious specifics in which he couches his broader points, but many of his broader points have validity. Interesting interview overall.

[@EmeraldView]

I didn't hear any

[@gabrielamanu1139]

WE ARE GOING TO BECOME SPIRITUAL BEINGS...

[@estuchedepeluche2212]

Because we are not spiritual beings now?

[@AntiTheist_Atheist]

Any evidence for this claim?

[@fess749]

Heaven will be great for the first 350 trillion years, after that it’s going to start to get a bit old. The only thing worse than dying, would be living forever

[@peaceonearth351]

What if you're just content with everything in Heaven? Maybe take a trip around the Milky Way.

[@mannykotti1249]

I’m sure that would be fine for the first 9,000 quadrillion millennia, but that is not even scratching the surface of how long you will be there.

[@bajajones5093]

What blather. The Vedics have it right. This man said nothing

[@cyberlingbot3d896]

The atheists in the comments are really tedious with their arguments. They demand physical proof of god's existence but then provide no physical proof that god doesn't exist.

[@julesskodzinski8673]

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof

[@AtheistCook]

One cannot prove a negative, its ilogical. The rational position would be demonstrate its existence which nobody has been able to do.

[@rons5319]

The proof is this existence.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Not watching. When a candle is extinguished, that's it, there's no after-candle-life. The Woo channel spews again!

[@Azozeo]

So God, from the scriptures is compassionate? Yeah I don’t think so. The seed was indoctrination.

[@RahulRoyijk]

Argument without any solid foundation

[@numberpirate]

The mental gymnastics and gullibility this guy displays is outstanding. WTF is this guy on here?

[@HoaNguyen-bx8hl]

As all religions are dead end for human salvations, but they're all immortality. As scientists, they're not afraid of making mistakes. As mindfulness person would recognize an error. As philosopher would have an ultimate compassion. And as an enlightenment person would realize the purposes of all religions. Therefore, he/she waking up from all illusions and dreams.

[@messenjah71]

When we dream, the dream seems real. It is only upon awakening that we realize it was just a dream. We are dreaming now. The dream is of separation from God, or if you prefer non-religious language, "All That Is." It’s a nightmare of separate bodies, whose "life" is ruled by its opposite, death. The purpose of life, then, is to awaken from the dream; all meaning is derived from this purpose.

[@thomasridley8675]

Eternal life !!! Our ego has blinded us to the truth. We are not special. We are just the last survivor on our branch of life. I love how every god belief is thee one and only truth. Dispite the history of religion failing to explain anything about our reality. While activity fighting against the real view we actually see.

[@Azozeo]

Well God’s, not real so we can write it out of the equation.

[@lordkibagami]

Did I just get clickbaited?

[@wthomas7955]

Stupid conversation. Ridiculous speculation.

[@Paulus_Brent]

Can we not go beyond religion?

[@itneeds2bsaid528]

You haven't even gone beyond worshiping your own knowledge yet.

[@AntiTheist_Atheist]

Nah, the idiots won't let us.

[@cvsree]

Imagining eternal life is like a owning a house but, forgetting it and living on the street and start imagining about living in a house

[@xspotbox4400]

So afterlife is about all things good and against all things bad, where did i hear that before. Hey, the Spaghetti monster is real, i knew it :)

[@0130wallace]

Maybe it's time to change the name of the channel. Or maybe start steering away from the unfalsifiable stuff. Each religious person on here makes the mocking voice in my head louder with each episode; cLoSeR tU tRuTh! cloooooooossser. Soooo much cloooooossssser.

[@embecmom5863]

you cannot form an educated opinion without listening to all sides.

[@ChillingCrowley]

No such thing as eternal life. The universe will someday end and then an infinite void. Everything we do is futile.

[@emeraldcelestial1058]

Actually it's more of a recurrent phenomenon, eternally recurrent.