IC-7610 VS. FTdx-101D Shootout

I compare these two rival radios head to head. I was asked for a numerical analysis of features and functions. Here is my very subjective user score card: docs.google.com/document/d/1V...

[@tommytomted44]

*_I'm new to ham radio and studying for my tech ticket. I have learned more from you than any other video producer. Thank you for all the wonderful videos you have made. You cover everything!_*

[@robertnagy2163]

Thank you for my first smile of the day! I LOVE teaching radio and I do so at National Park College. This is a great hobby and it is great for meeting smart folks who can network you into jobs, projects..etc. Enjoy!

[@SevenFortyOne]

Thanks for taking the time to do this comparison and compile a video about it!

[@daveve3kiu243]

Great review/comparison. I'm amazed at what the new rigs can do.

[@k2wo1]

Great review Bob. Thanks for taking the time to do it. I already own a 7610 and have been very pleased with its performance. I was curious about the FTDX101D after seeing the Sherwood numbers for it. Have a great day! 73, George K2WO

[@robertnagy2163]

Really, they are both great rigs. You got a wonderful radio there. Hey, check out the Factory set mode (videos) to raise the max power to 120 watts or so. The finals are running very conservatively. This might bump up the average SSB power by 20 watts. Just a thought...maybe not worth doing,

[@n8nkqrp595]

This is a WONDERFUL video! Thanks. On my FTdx3k... with a super weak cw signal buried in the muck - you can do one of two things, and that uncopyable sig will pop right at you. Both accomplish the same. 1) turn on the APF to the narrowest setting - a single click of the button if you're using CW already. Then crank the IF width control all the way down to 50 Hz. The comnination of the two is just ridiculously effective. 2) Just hit the 'narrow' button then crank down the IF width to 50 Hz. Method 1 may be a little better but I don't think so. Both are crazy effective. 73 OM

[@G3PWP]

I love the review , Im a Yaesu user so naturally I have the 101D my other models are ft1200dx , ft991 which I still use thanks Robert

[@FjHenderson]

Thanks for the comparison. I've been thinking about getting a new Icom 7610, and the comparison between the two was nice. But like you said about the flex dev team there is a lot of feedback and collaboration between users and company for better performance leading to more sales. Thanks again and 73 de AC8GF

[@glennstevenson6242]

Very enjoyable review mate. You answered lots of my questions, thank you!

[@robertnagy2163]

My pleasure Glenn!

[@chasiu75]

This is the best video review I have found on both of these radios! Thank you!

[@Yavor54]

Thank you!

[@traviswcarney]

Just came across this. Thanks for the great comparison! FYI, "Triblade" is the net control callsign for Civil Air Patrol's national HF net. We run them several times a week in addition to more localized daily VHF nets.

[@lancewillard]

Hi Bob- I just spoke with you on 145.575 MHz repeater in Austin, Texas. You were driving in the rain between Little Rock and Hot Springs. I was on top of a 19 story building in Austin, and told you that I had just received my call sign yesterday. I looked up your call sign when I got back to my computer and gave myself a nice laugh when I saw who you were. I exclaimed to myself: I KNOW WHO THAT GUY IS. Your KZbin channel was one of the first things that popped up in the search, and was also one of the first channels I subscribed to regarding Ham Radio. I have watched quite a few videos of yours in the last month or so, while I was studying up to get my technician's license. In fact, your review of the TH-D74A was one of the reasons I purchased it. Anyways- thanks for speaking with me, I appreciate all the information you shared then, and on your channel. I look forward to talking to you again. -KI5HHK

[@Yavor54]

Lance- Greetings! Well, there you go. I retired from UT Biosci and moved up here an hour past Texarkana. Ran the 442.15 repeater at UT (which is still there under another call). I sent Paul and Lance (N5EAD) 4 AllStar simplex nodes to cover Austin- and have them linked to my Mt. top link here in Hot Springs. Remember, they are simplex links...no repeater offset. just wait till the squelch tail drops to talk back. Also, you may not hear another station who is on the same link... if they are not in simplex range. Links are 145.65, 446.225 and 145.575. the 446 one is linked to a larger system. Come in any time. Glad I could be an inspiration for you! That's my thang!

[@rayhill7613]

Great Video Bob. Newbie here (2years) I really enjoy your comparisons lots of info. I like your taro plants in your yard.

[@Yavor54]

Thanks Ray. I'm not a prolific reviewer, but I try to keep them coming! My goal is to to make the most of the viewer's time. I keep it information-dense and organized.

[@robertnagy2163]

UPDATE: Well, after even more time on the FTdx-101D, it's selectivity is rather shocking. Three SSB stations lined up end to end with NO space between them...and I am on the middle one- and hear Nothing from the sides. I mean nothing. You can imagine what perfect selectivity is, but when you experience it, it is quantitatively different from previous radios. It is a good thing! Back to the 101D.

[@LivePDOfficerInterviews]

Robert Nagy why’d you give up on the Flex Bob? Did you just miss the knobs and buttons? The physical feel of controlling the radio? That’s the one thing and only thing I’m concerned about owning the Flex .

[@Yavor54]

@@LivePDOfficerInterviews Two reasons really. The Maestro is SO high resolution that my eyes have difficulty resolving the details. Second is that the work required to get a good SSB signal out is significant. It Can be done...it is all on the net. Actually there is a third- the maestro's knobs are just not the quality of finish I prefer. And also, no radio will be my last. I review them and get the next new thing. My business permits that.

[@LivePDOfficerInterviews]

Bob Nagy Bob, Dog gone it! Well my friend, I hope I’m able to make the SSB work well on my 6300. That’s my favorite part of amateur radio. You couldn’t make the 6300 receive three wide individually and pick up the middle signal? I guess that would be pretty hard if resolution is really strong like that. I’d like to try out the maestro very much. I am trying to save up for that next. I am permanently handicapped so at least I get to use the iPad for now once I get everything hooked up. I’m a little nervous as to hooking it directly to my Mac Instead, I’m having the cable company come to the house and just place my modem up in my ham shack from my living room. My hope here down the road is to get a 101D after the price adjustments, come and they flatten out. Man, that radio is the “bees knees“ to me! Can you put another video out maybe comparing these two rigs after you’ve had them for a while? I mean you’ve learned some more now on both of them and that would be a nice video to see. An “update on your decision” so to speak. I like both of them a lot. The 7610 is beautiful as well. I wouldn’t feel like I got a “consolation prize” with the 7610 at all. The decision update video is just a suggestion… I enjoy your videos very much buddy. And you provided me that I have about 60 videos to upload on my channel. Thanks for the good work buddy. 73 from Oregon.

[@LivePDOfficerInterviews]

Have you made your decision yet? My bet is you’re going to keep both rigs! lol. I would!

[@Yavor54]

@@LivePDOfficerInterviews Well, actually no. I listed the 101D on QTH.com classifieds yesterday. Why? I have no money in my ham $$ account and the price on used 7610's has dropped through the floor (cuz of the screen problem). The 101D is clearly the superior radio in many respects, but I would loose almost $2K on the 7610 and half that on the 101D. So we will see if I have any takers. If not, so I own two of the best radios around! I'm just not fiscally that decadent normally...ha!

[@CHUCK.H57]

Excellent, unbiased comparisons of functions with explanations. This helped explain differences from both a technical and operating perspective. Thank you!

[@Yavor54]

Thank you! I try to be fair...and complete. I landed up selling the 101D..surprised even myself!

[@w6lax]

I really appreciate your thoughtful, well-prepared and detailed comparison. I was close to buying the FTDX101 MP but think I'll wait. I would be interested in your reviewing the Elecraft K4 when it is released in a couple of months. Thank you.

[@robertnagy2163]

Me too! Thing is, I'll have to sell off one of these to even think about getting the K4. Also the Elad Duo-X is interesting.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Great work here. Like the explanation in the beginning and laying down the rules Of the road.

[@robertnagy2163]

Hey co-producer! Everyone has their slant on Ham video production here. I teach this stuff at National Park College, so I lean towards slipping in some heavy tech. My vids are long...probably too long. Keep crankin' them out!

[@radiok2ua]

This is a really helpful video, Bob. Thanks. If you do something like this again, please remove the protective plastic for the video--it would really help us see the displays better. Keep up the good work! 1k thumbs up with 52.8k views (as of Jan 2, 2021) is a huge percentage!

[@Yavor54]

Thankd Russ- I go for quality, not flash. I landed up selling the 101D because it has so many design errors. I imagine they will pull it and re-release it like the FT-991. HNY!

[@6alban]

I would like to thank you very much for this review/comparison Robert. In fact I did made my decision to buy the FTdx101D because of this stupendous shootout. I'm simply loving it and as you described, the selectivity on this rig is just outstanding. I hope Yaesu will be releasing sooner than later an update on the firmware having listening pretty much to all the suggestions you give to them and above all implementing the "averaging" on the rainfall scope and making this radio closer to perfection. I am constantly keeping one eye on the comments for this video and the Yaesu's website for that. Best 73 to you from VA2VG!

[@robertnagy2163]

Thank you! Yes, I too hope they release a firmware update. It has been 8 months since the last update. I check every day! Enjoy the radio....try the DNR...level 6-7..on SSB.. amazing.

[@6alban]

@@robertnagy2163 I will Robert, thank you again.

[@sas7388]

We need a petition , YAESU - Averaging Please!

[@vincei4252]

Excellent review, thank you. The DNR on the Yaesu sold it for me. It's astounding. Both great radios but we usually can't have everything we want in life!

[@RoelandJansen]

the watery sound ... yuck

[@jimk4vw138]

Thanks Bob, great review. I have the 7300 and 7610 and I like both of them. The K4 and Flex radios look very interesting. 73's de Jim, k4vw

[@ackerkenton]

Thank you so much Robert for this excellent comparison. I own a FTdx-101D and I bought it because it's cheaper than the 7610 in the UK, does 70Mhz and does have a lovely user interface - However I miss my IC-7300 which was having difficulty hearing through all of the qrm in my QTH. I felt that the software in the 7300 was more honed and sophisticated but the 101 makes up for it's short comings by being such a good transiever. Thanks again for such a through walkthrough

[@Yavor54]

Exactly. The 101D literally has a better receiver. And that is what we are paying for here. Operationally, the Icoms are a little more "worked out" than the 101D, but we have not even had the first firmware update- and there will be many. Enjoy! (I am)

[@eddiegardner8232]

Excellent comparison review, just what I was looking for, trying to decide between these two specific radios. I like some things on one, other things on the other. Can't ever have it all.

[@robertnagy2163]

Eddie- The safer bet is the 7610. Why? Because the 101D is Yaesu's first attempt at an SDR. It is full of small and not so small design problems. I see it having a very short shelf life as Yaesu will want to totally re-design the hardware after this first "experiment". Yes, the RX numbers are good, but that is maybe 20% of the equation when you judge the joy you get out of a radio. In total, the user experience is better on the Icom...plus you will save $500.

[@Radiomusic78]

I've recently purchased a Yaesu FTdx101d, and I've got also an Icom 7610. I've been doing many tests,vand extensive comparisons in very crowded bands in this last CQWW cw. I have not found any signat in the ftdx101d better than in the Icom 7610,veven in very close strong signals over 9+30 or +40db. Nothing different. Moreover, in the Icom 7610 is easier to have good listenings with much less adjustments (with same filters bandwith, is faster to get good results with Icom tha with Yaesu). I find best audio, more bass,and a smooth, delicate, soft, pleasant, and good audio in Icom than Yaesu (wich is crispy). I've decided to get rid of Yaesu because ot does not improve reception in real worl, beyond laboratory tests....

[@rayhill7613]

Juan TY for your post. I'm new to ham (2yrs). I'm thinking it's time for a little more radio. I have a IC 7300 and love it. I was looking at the TS-890, 7610 and the FTx101d really don't know which one ..... kinda leaning towards the 7610 because I like my 7300. Tks again Juan.

[@AD4C]

@@rayhill7613 I had them both, the 7610 and now the 7300. I can tell you for sure that the 7610 is a great radio. In terms of audio quality, its the same of your 7300, in terms of selectivity is also the same as in your 7300 but you will gain a second independent receiver that will allow you to listen two different stations each one in your ears if you use headphones or each one on separate speakers and also you will be able to see in a big monitor the entire display. Go for the 7610 and forget the TS890, Kenwoods are not too good on NR in any model, all them introduce audio distorsion to the received station when NR is enabled.

[@ichipanx4064]

@@rayhill7613 I was walking down the same road. ;) Also started with a IC7300 (which i still own) and upgraded to the IC7610. Never regret it. Dont know if you are into the digital modes too, but to be able to make RTTY and PSK without computer on the 7610 is just great. The 7300 can RTTY too, but on the 7610 you can use an external keybord which is really fun. The 7300 i now use for pactor IV modem, all the other stuff (SSB, RTTY, PSK....) on the 7610.

[@robertpitman194]

Great video. I’m about to replace “Old Faithful” which is my 20yr old fully loaded FT1000D and this has helped me make my decision. Yes it’s going to be the Yaesu.

[@robertnagy2163]

You made me smile Robert. I'm sitting here listening to Classic Rock on WRMI Miami 9.395mhz. Dam radio looks & sounds fantastic. I have to sell off one of these...which is going to be very bitter-sweet. I'll give it a few weeks, but then I've got to cut one loose. I'll be eating PB&J's for a year if I keep both.

[@SWRadioConcepts]

I'm an iCOM fanboy but damn that Yaesu looks tempting.

[@g0fvt]

I am still very happy with my FT1000D but recently have been using SDRconsole with a tv dongle fed by the IF, it does bring some very nice SDR functionality to the old beast.

[@teashea1]

Very good comparison. good production values also. I wound up purchasing an FTdx101 and a Kenwood TS890S

[@jwatkins320]

Can't believe i sat through this entire review without knowing I could never afford one of these radios. I have the FTDX1200 and would love to have one of these newer models with integrated sound card, external monitor options and all of the cool SDR features! This was a great video though. Thank you.

[@WildBillQRO]

Robert awesome video pulling the trigger on a 101d the shack got hit by lighting labour day weekend and insurance is gunna help me along on my upgrade from a 1000mp really looking forward to the new tech your video helped thanks from Canada Bill

[@kingsqueak2221]

You do a nice job with these videos. You mentioned running Olivia in one and your call sign sounds familiar, I think we may have worked before as I'm a big fan of a good old digital mode rag chew and Olivia and Contestia work nicely on the low bands for that. Getting back into radio again after a few years lapse and catching up on what's out. It is getting to be a really hard choice to make now, the IC-7300 outperforms anything I was using (TS-2000 with a QS1R on a Dow Key relay to switch TX/RX) just a few years ago for $1k, I think the 890 is winning just due to ESSB capability for TX and RX and I know Kenwood can stand up to high duty cycle well, even at just 10-25W, rigs get really hot on a long digi QSO session.

[@AD4C]

Bob, you are my favorite youtuber, your comparison or reviewing videos are fully professionals, been a radiotech for 50 years I know exactly what you are talking about and you do it very detailing touching the right spot of technical description of a radio.

[@Yavor54]

Thanks! I don't try to get a jump on the new radio releases, I try to do a quality review and I don't hold back if there are issues. Again- Thanks for the kudos!

[@AD4C]

@@Yavor54 and that's why your reviews are the best from the technical standpoint. Most of the reviewing I see are too simple and don't help.

[@teashea1]

Nice style of presentation ------ I don't have a 7610 but I do have a 101MP and I love it. It is excellent in terms of abilities and build quality.

[@pascalmestdagh5074]

Thanks for the review Robert, helped me to decide which way to go:) I hope Yaesu updates the firmware soon in order to get a quieter waterfall display (averaging) and also more color options (greenish:)) 73 Pascal - Belgium

[@Yavor54]

Pascal- Indeed. I am waiting for the next firmware revision- and if they do NOT add display averaging, I'm selling the radio.

[@jimellison9414]

liked the appearance of the yaesu better than the I com...."but" I bought the Icom. Great video!!!! thanks….

[@robertnagy2163]

Correct choice.

[@c.f.leffen2929]

Sir, it is because of your sense of both radios, and their ease (or not) of use, that I’ve had to change my mind, and my selection for my first HF radio… I’m going deaf, and will soon be only able to go digital or, maybe, with CW as well. Thank-you for your time and kind consideration, in your delving into the qualities, strengths, and foibles of both radios. Tomorrow, I’ll be shopping for a new IC-7610…

[@Yavor54]

I have to admit, I with great reticence condemn the Yaesu to the losers' corner. It is the result of a lot of hours of engineering and effort. It could have been a great radio. I sent a list of 22 modifications directly to Yaesu- which if implemented - would have taken the 101D to the top slot. It is certainly beautiful to look at I so wished I'd love operating it. In the end, I lost $1K buying it, doing the review and selling it off. I am glad that many Hams will make the right choice after watching my review. The 7610 is a joy to operate. I don't miss a single feature of the 101D. Please email me if you have any questions after receiving yours. Bob

[@mbetts1982]

Awesome review Bob! Thanks so much!

[@Yavor54]

Thank you!

[@wd9igy]

Great review. I currently have a Flex 6400M but if I was in the market for one of these radios you make my choice an easy one.Well done .

[@wd9igy]

The flex software is stable no issues for me at all. The windows 10 updates once a year sometimes corrupts the Dax drivers in the flex software. This is easily fixed by deleting the drivers and reloading them. Flex support provides easy instructions on how to do this. I have never had this problem myself so far. The spectrum display and point and click tuning are game changers for me I could never go back to Icom or Yeasu with their limited displays. Hope this helps WD9IGY

[@Thejohnnyoshow]

@@traveller-nl i get it, i'm currently in the 30day return time of the flex and honestly i have mixed feelings, i'm not sure if its just that everything is based on windows, or what, but i'm still not sure how i feel about the 6600m. I work on computers all day, i don't want to be dealing with computer issues when i'm doing my hobby

[@K7AGE]

Nice job Bob. I want to see your winner against the K4 in the future!

[@williamstaylor5449]

This is of great interest to me too.

[@robertnagy2163]

Oh yeah... and the Elad Duo-X too (Elad is a sleeper product..not well known but really a contender)

[@AA5SA]

The K4 will almost certainly annihilate either of these radios if the performance of the K3 and K3S vs. similar radios from the big three are any indication.

[@stewartrv]

Nice review. I have just got a 2nd hand (4 months old) IC-7610 and am very happy with it, I've noticed a lot of FT-101d's come up for sale quickly after purchased in the UK now I have seen your video I think I see why. I think the IC-7610 is so much easier to use to setup and operate for average users (especially coming from an IC-7300). I suppose the FT-101d might be slightly better on paper but it's to the point where I suppose I'll never notice the difference in use most times, and I'll operate more efficiently the rest of the time. One thing I noticed that some of the 7610 knobs seem a little cheap after the 7300, I wasn't expecting that. I expected it to be at least the same level as the 7300, but seems like it was "cost reduced"... By the way just FYI your audio on this video was a bit over-driven in many places fair bit of popping except when your outside.

[@philyo4774]

Very useful comparison , I will opt for the FTDX101D to replace my FTdx1200 thanks !!

[@patrickbouldinkm5l143]

On the DNR, the 7610 does work, but it's more of a slight reduction, whereas the 101 has almost eliminated noise, but at the expense of a little digital artifacts. Common it seems in all Yaesu for the last 15 years or so.

[@submarineradioman5535]

Well done Mr. Nagy. I still have my original FT-101 from many years ago. Based on this review I shall upgrade to the new FT-101D! Tnx de Howie WA3MCK.

[@ftlaud911]

Great review!! You missed the VC is an add on for second receiver. Also additional filters need to be bought for both receivers I believe. A fully spec'd 101 is another $1500 or so. Making it over $5k. Also it has to be sent in if not purchased upfront. I bought the 7610 and love it so far. Also bought the 890S and love it as well. Plan to maybe add the 101D or MP. May sell one or keep all three when the time comes :-) Need a SS amp first though. I believe one must have atleast a backup rig so will at least keep two. Both radios reviewed are great choices. You really can't go wrong with either the 7610, 101, or the 890 IMHO.

[@robertnagy2163]

Totally agree. Both superb radios. I did mention about the single VC Tune VS both Digi-Sel units provided. Yeah, no upgrades on the 7610. That said, I will never get a 1.2khz SSB filter..or even the 300hz CW filter. It is just fine without them. The 890 has the slower refresh rate display and that's why I sold my 990 at Dayton. Gotta be FAST. This hobby is Fun ehh?

[@dougsmith6896]

Thanks Bob, That was an excellent review in my opinion. I have seen a few of your reviews and you report them without bias and a whole lot of unrelated chatting. 73 , Stay Safe & Stay Well

[@Yavor54]

That's my goal Doug. I'm not in this for maximum "clicks". All the flashy graphics and hyped-up attitudes do nothing to convey what everyone really wants to know. Thanks for the Kudos...

[@martincranage2998]

Great review Bob. Just a point: there is fft scrolling with frequency in Centre Mode on the IC-7610. I only discovered it recently. 73, Martin, G8OFA

[@robertnagy2163]

Really Martin! Great...This is what I want... to find out more features I missed. Tnx

[@smiffykuk]

Well Bob... you’ve done it again. Best shootout and review of these two radios I have seen.. I have an Anan 8000DLE, which I found even exceeded the Icom 7851 on very low signals due to NR2, But would like to upgrade my old TS-950SDX, so may well go the 101 route . Best wishes and 73 from UK

[@robertnagy2163]

Thank you! I'm not shooting to be the most popular reviewer. I'm trying to be the best one. I don't post often because these take a lot of effort to make. Next will be the Xiegu GSOC & G90 SDR combo.

[@smiffykuk]

@@robertnagy2163 well, personally, I think you've made it Bob. Not an easy job as I guess you've found out. 😏

[@Tsachyl]

Thanks for a great presentation. So 2+ years after the review came out - which is better for the average operator who works all modes, whenever possible?

[@richb.4374]

I just bought myself a 101D and with the latest firmware update from Yaesu the rig is fantastic! They added green for you guys that like green on your scope and the receiver is nothing short of amazing. I never hear side splatter on it, the selectivity is mind blowing. The VC tune is the best thing since sliced bread. The 7610 is a very nice rig, but I have no regrets choosing the Yaesu. The build quality even looks and feels better to me. I always hear the guys running Icoms complaining about splatter off to the side I never hear or know is there unless I see a signal on the scope.

[@Yavor54]

Yup,can Yup, can't beat that selectivity! Indeed the 7610 can get splatter from nearby strong signals. It is close, but no 101D. I did sell mine though and kept the 7610. My ears are bad and I need the top-end in the audio. The bass and treble are filtered out of the 101D audio to help it make those great specs. It is also a great looking radio. Superior in ergonomics for sure. I couldn't deal without progressive tuning either. That huge great VFO knob is impressive, but sow tuning was too slow and fast was 100hz increments. You should try the old DSP firmware..just load it onto your B side DSP..so you can compare. I preferred it over the new DSP firmware. the ALC meter and setting up the TX audio is maddening. Turning UP the AMC level releases it from clamping down on your audio. I found 68 to be good. You have a lot to explore! Go have fun.

[@dieselten01]

Rich B, can you tell me if the new firmware for the 101D allows bandwidth adjustment in AM mode? According to Robert Nagy’s original review his version did not allow it. Thanks! I am leaning hard on buying a 101D but I do enjoy SWL and AM dx’ing

[@barrywhittle6696]

Bob, as per usual you do an awesome job. I wish I had one tenth of your knowledge, but you have that rare way of simplifying radio functions so that the average operator's understand clearly what you mean, and that is a talent in itself. Mate, you are one clever individual.👨‍🎓 I bow at your feet my man.😂

[@Yavor54]

B- Ha! Well, generally Ham commentators have effervescent personalities and really thin technical knowledge (don't forget flashy graphics!) - or the ultra-dry techies who assume you have an EE degree and if not- too bad. Being able to boil-down the new digital technology into digestible concepts - is my goal. We have to literally battle the PC interface stuff now - so it is important to remember - this is supposed to be fun! To that end, I try my best. Thank you so much for the Kudos.

[@RobDTom]

Excellent review!

[@micoderup]

Nice Job of reviewing these radios. I did not understand for sure if the Icom did or did not have a 3rd receive only input. I love that on my FTDX 3000

[@donr2670]

Great video Bob - thanks! At the level of complexity for either of these, it is a wonder that any customer would be happy with the way everything on their radio works. Old timer me says I prefer FTDX101 receive audio on SSB and that is worth very many ergo functions where Icom has a major advantage. In the end, I want a radio that is the best of both for that kind of money! I am disappointed in 2019 that the digital audio features all still sound muddy and ineffective to me. One day the high end transceiver will allow an external antenna and will have a phase noise cancelling device built in. These days my spectrum scope is just an ugly mess from all the neighborhood electronic junk before I activate the external noise canceler, and none of the DSP features in the world are effective at that level. So why would I pay $4000 for a high end transceiver and need to set an MFJ-1026 on top the very first day - hihi...

[@robertnagy2163]

Don- QSL on all. Yeah, I was out on an island and couldn't believe the noise floor compared to in-town. I've got spurs of all kinds all day across the screen. The outboard phase canceller is a good thing. And indeed, you'd think that 32 bit processing with FFT would result in cleaner DNR. Well, what can I say? We all land up talking to the same bunch of people on the bands with whatever radio we have. For me, If I get ANY pleasure from a radio..for ANY reason, at this age, I'm going to try to get it. I want to bounce that last check!

[@thuff3207]

I really like how the Icom display and tuning works. What I found during field day that worried me was out of band saturation with the 7610. It looks like in an RF rich area the issue occurs. We hope to learn more of not use one at field day.

[@robertnagy2163]

Yes, the 101D is really a better receiver. In very tough conditions, it will do better. I'm talking multi-op contesting primarily. In 95% of daily operations, the 7610 is just fine.

[@dangruner5926]

What a superb shootout. Many thanks..!

[@RSwrightMD]

Bob, very nice shoot out comparing the features of both rigs. I would like to see you display the IF filter bandwidth on the Yaesu when reporting the CW signals and I would like to see the NR level on the Icom reported out under the same conditions. Have you considered trying a 250 Hz BW for either? Second - the VRC on the Yaesu is designed for in-band rejection while the Digi-Sel on the Icom is designed for rejecting noise/signals that are 1 MHz or more away from the primary frequency, so one would expect different results with them. Finally, it would be nice if you could show the APF adjustments - how much gain (0-6 dB) did you have on and was it wide, medium or narrow? Thanks again.

[@robertnagy2163]

Hi Scott- Sorry about that. The APF's have width adjustments and I just went with the radio's default settings. The NR level on the 101D has numbers but the 7610 is just linearly adjustable from nothing up to full with the knob. I set it at half way. BW on both on CW was 500hz. The roofing filter on the Yaesu was 600hz. The net observation is that the Icom has a crispier sound on CW once you get the BW set and APF on. It just sounds like the rise times are faster to your ears. The S/N+N ratio is slightly higher on the Icom in that setup. On the Yaesu, you can actually adjust the rise time of the TX CW waveform in ms. Default is 4ms. Unusual that Icom would give you center adjustment on the Digi-Sel if it is only attenuating over 1mhz out. No wonder it does nothing in-band. The 101D does show weak CW sognals better on the scope than the 7610. I was eager to get this out, so I could not cover every last thing...it would have been 2 hours long! Hope this helps. Either radio would be a slick CW operator.

[@jordanclarke2996]

Thank you thank you thank you is all I can say, Fantastic video. I really appreciate the time and effort you put in to this it helped me decide what radio to buy. I ended up with the 7610. I got to play with the ftdx101mp in person today as well. Yet to unbox the 7610 subscribed 73 thanks again

[@Yavor54]

Jordan- You made the right decision. Sold my 101D. I sent a letter to Yaesu in Japan with 22 design defects on the radio... Enjoy!

[@jordanclarke2996]

@@Yavor54 wow thanks Bob it's always great to see feedback like that reassuring my decision. Thank you

[@bnwww]

@@Yavor54 can you elaborate please on the issues you had with the 101D that led you to sending a letter to Yaesu? I am up in the air between the IC-7610 and the 101MP.

[@LanWolf]

thanks for your comparison. I own theyaesu Ftdx 3000 and a icom 7300 , also pretty comparable, but have you also tried the contour filter in the positive setting on the yaesu ? On my ftdx3000 can make signals understandable, which i cannot make on my icom 7300.

[@robertnagy2163]

Glad you asked. The Contour filters on all previous Yaesu's were superb. I forgot to mention that they changed the way they implemented the Contour on the 101D. Instead of boosting certain frequencies, it just attenuates the opposite frequencies. The net effect is that instead of that punchy boost that clarifies SSB, it just doesn't do that. It sounds narrow and thin. It is on my things to fix list for Yaesu.

[@patrickbouldinkm5l143]

Nice job on this, that took a lot of effort.

[@SWRadioConcepts]

Subscribed. Great content and presentation.

[@johnpeterson7264]

Excellent review and I must agree - FLEX radios iterative software design process has its advantages.

[@robertnagy2163]

Yeah, no matter people's complaints about company responsiveness, Flex and the other domestic makers are more responsive to user's needs. I took a risk characterizing Japanese culture, but through the years, a pattern emerges. Since SDR is so changable via firmware, this can be a great advantage to these radios if a manufacturer listens and responds. I'll send my list of over 20 firmware changes I think would help on the 101D. I don't expect them to actually listen. One can hope though!

[@r1derbike]

Good comparo, Bob. Was going to sell the TS-2000 and get the 7610, talked with many who had the TS and 7300, and decided to keep the TS for VHF/UHF multimode, and bite the bullet with the 7300, as I'm only a casual DXer. I don't know what I'm missing with no 7610 on the desk but after your review, I now see. If I were a betting man, I'd bet you will keep the Icom. Time will tell.

[@robertnagy2163]

I really don't know right now. Now I can just play with the Yaesu and see what I feel personally in a week or so. I won't wait, so if the 101D goes, someone here can get a good deal!

[@ericpeters8834]

Quite a good review. Not numbers but facts. Nice.There is any choice of making same job with any of both radios but against Kenwood 890S ? Will bring a lot of light on many subjects.

[@ubik372]

What a great presentation of two outstanding radios. Personally I love Icom gear and the display on the IC-7610 looks better than the Yaesu FTdx-101D. I have an IC-r8600 and am on the verge of buying an IC-7300 to keep it company since the IC-7610 would be overkill for me, but thanks for this great video.

[@robertnagy2163]

Yeah, go 7300... what a dream line-up!

[@docpearson]

As always your reviews are professional quality. However I personally am interested in the decode ability of CW, RTTY AND PSK of these two trancievers and how easy is it to use a keyboard to send and recieve on those modes. I would beg you please do a special video on these. I have heard that the 7610 cannot decode CW but i dont know for sure. Please help.

[@oldlinkjo]

Great video, thanks. I am in business for buying the 101D. Did you get the firmware upgraded, and what are your conclusions from that upgrade ?

[@Yavor54]

The firmware is from June 2019. There is no new firmware. I am waiting for this!

[@clegkleg69]

Great review and I have watched many on the FTDX101D, having owned a 7300 and 7600, I chose the FTDX101D as my next rig, the receiver makes all the difference, Yaesu wins.

[@LivePDOfficerInterviews]

Bob, another great video my friend! Way to go! Larry de K7HN

[@robertnagy2163]

Thanks Larry- I could have really added every last item, but it would have been 2 hours long.

[@LivePDOfficerInterviews]

Oh I bet. Each rig has so very much on it! Isn’t it amazing how much more you can talk about with the rigs of today my friend? My goodness… Have things improved.

[@mikes8012]

HI Bob, As always, very helpful video. Thank you. I do honestly think, and, I see you have commented on the selectivity, that the high resolution, narrow band, high speed, SDR for actual receive is a winner. Your comment on selectivity is only one of the benefits of the Yaesu narrow band SDR architecture.

[@Yavor54]

Indeed. Virtually perfect selectivity is easy to get used to. Why was it ever less then this?! It's like GPS. "Of course you can tell exactly where you are"... but really, it is a ton of high-technology behind it.

[@rickbattle5706]

Great job, thanks. I bought the FT dx 101D Max with all the filters. Decided that the dynamic range was a real value and filter flexibility was excellent.

[@robertnagy2163]

Yeah, it is the selectivity King. It is so easy to get used to perfect selectivity. It is sort of like 'Well wasn't it always like this?". No it wasn't. It has been the holy grail since the beginning of Ham radio.

[@Farrscape]

Thanks Bob, very comprehensive comparison of the two radios. Have a question , my 7610 after transmitting and it switches back to receive audio there is a great spike of a noise floor that suddenly appears! Did you find that out as well? It disappears after about 10 secs.

[@Yavor54]

Golly, No. What could that be? What else do you have hooked up? Has to be something interfaced with the radio. Pull off all interfaced items and try again. is your VOX on? Amazingly, I regularly get questions about the radio keying on it's own..and it is the VOX on. VOX on would cause a spike possible upon RX. Go bare radio.. try again!

[@johnratcliffe6438]

It will be interesting to see if Yaesu release an SDR replacement for the 9000/5000 series flagship radios. Brilliant video, thanks!

[@robertnagy2163]

I think Yaesu has put a lot of their R&D money into this radio and will wait and see if SDR takes over fully before committing to make a much more expensive model. Icom will be first with an over $10K SDR radio.

[@johnratcliffe6438]

@@robertnagy2163 Thank you. I'm not sure how I feel about the surge of SDR; I look at rigs like the Yaesu 9000 and 5000 series with a touch of nostalgia. They represent the end of an era to me; similar to a famous ship or train being retired.

[@robertnagy2163]

@@johnratcliffe6438 Well, it is the main descriptor of life. The environment changes and those who adapt-survive. Nostalgia is good if you are remembering loved ones, but in technology it is deadly. Soon people will say "Want to see my horse and gasoline car out in the shed..it makes a loud noise like a dinosaur and smoke comes out the back!" (and the other one whinnies).

[@johncliff5417]

Thank's Robert for a very good video on the difference of these two radios. Maybe I'm old school has the 3D thing does not float my boat. to me it is some form of mod toy that has nothing to do with radio communication. It would be great to see this on a 40 channel audio mixer in a studio. But for Ham radio , no thank you. 73 de G0WXU.

[@teashea1]

Much better than the other YT comparison

[@Yavor54]

Thanks Tom. I put a lot of work into these. I'm about quality, not quantity!

[@docpearson]

Your reviews to me are the most informative that I can find on KZbin. As per this review wow was it Great or not wow. It was fantastic. But down to what I wanted to say. Personally I like less QRM and I like CW Decode. I love Icom’s. Most all of my radios are Icom’s. However I really really dislike QRM and I would really like to have Radio that can decode CW. Since the yaesu is a better QRM fighter and has CW decode Sorry Icom but I’m gonna have to slip away on the side and buy one of these yaesu’s. But don’t worry Icom I still have one of your wonderful 7300s that I truly love as a backup. Actually with my IC-7300 and my external west mountain radio DSP noise reducer that really takes all that shhhhhhh noise out of the background and the my Ham Radio Deluxe that can decode CW The Icom IC-7300 and I have been getting along really pretty good and I really don’t need the Yaesu but wow it’s quite a rig and i’m going to get one. 😁

[@jonharris3906]

Great style of review, friendly, relaxed but detailed too. One thing I was intrigued by is the comment at the beginning re excluding the 890s, can you expand on your rationale please? I appreciate it’s not SDR but thought that in itself might make an interesting comparison. 73

[@robertnagy2163]

Jon- You know, it is ALL about cutting-edge technology. SDR will totally replace superhet designs in 5 years. The Kenwood is incapable of giving the super-fast display refresh rate- and that is a kill-shot for me. Sold my 990s at Dayton because of it. The 890 has rock solid RX specs and Kenwood TX audio...and no big warts I'm sure. It is personal preference..and they are all great rigs.

[@jonharris3906]

Robert, many thanks for the quick reply. Let’s hope the every reducing kenwood range is not a precursor to them abandoning amateur radio and they come up with a cracking SDR radio in the near future to give Yaesu and Icom a run for their money.

[@LivePDOfficerInterviews]

Hey Bob, I know it’s dated, but what about a review on a Yaesu FTDX 5000? It’s amazing that basically a 10-year-old receiver has such a high price over these SDR‘s!

[@ae1tpa92gwtom2]

Thx Bob we dont see enough from you,., 😀 great vid and lots of info. I'm a Yaesu fanboy, but cannot get my head around the display colours just feel its not comfortable to view. I have operated on the 7610, great radio, but really want to stick with my Yaesu Kit,.. really a toss up. Thinking of going bk to my roots, first Radio Kenwood, 890 or 990. I have 5 HF rigs now, the XYL can count, so maybe selling 1 or 2. As for the comparison, well done Bob, cheers n very informative. 73s LZ/AE1TP A92GW thx again

[@robertnagy2163]

Tom- I hear you. The 101D has better selectivity, a more versatile display, better QRM fighting stuff, more I/O and looks snazzier. Icom is cheaper, easier to operate, easier on the eyes display, is a fast operator and have to say- has less design errors overall. Both are a pleasure to operate. Today I just get to play with the 101D....!!

[@OM0ET]

Hey Bob! That was a great review I was looking for! 😉👍Thanks a lot! I have a 7610 and after this video I think I will stay with it for now 😊 What is your personal oppinion? Do you like more 7610 or 101d? Which one did you keep if you should decide for just one of them? Thanks for your great work and 73 from Slovakia! Paul, OM0ET

[@robertnagy2163]

Paul- Well, now I can just spend time with the 101D...give it a week or two. I was never really super happy with the 7610, but now I like it more after watching my own video! The 101D is superior on Selectivity, DNR, I/O and display flexibility. The 7610 is simpler in many ways. I like the RX/TX audio better on the 7610, but my ears are old. The display on the 101D is more sensitive...that is good. Three antenna connectors on the 101D is very good. If I want to keep both radios, I'll have to make more $$...ha! Most likely, I will sell on in about a month.

[@OM0ET]

@@robertnagy2163 Yes the best solution could be to take both of them :-D Thank you for your quick reply and keep a good work! 73 Paul OM0ET

[@xjohn1970]

@Robert Nagy Hello great videos. I'm choosing between these two Radios with your shootouts help. At 15:59 with the FTdx-101D does the signal move around only on CW mode?

[@Yavor54]

It happens only when the scope is at narrow settings that you wouldn't use for SSB. Don't have the 101D anymore, so can't give more info

[@bradl2636]

Thanks for the awesome video. Which one did you sell? Did you later regret your decision? Did Yaesu fix the averaging issue? I'm a newbie sorry for the questions I tried scrolling thru all the comments but might have missed if youve answered these already.

[@Yavor54]

No problem! I sold the 101D. There were just too many engineering mistakes in it. Over 20 I documented and sent to Yaesu in Tokyo. No, no averaging- even in FTdx-10. The menuing system itself is enough to give you an unhappy user experience. The 7610 (and 7300) are just polished pieces of work...a joy to operate.

[@paulmitchell1041]

Great video Bob. I have had the 7610 for a year replacing my 756 PRO. Can't believe the difference especially with the signals near the noise level. Thought I was really gong to explore the digital world but I'm still having fun with SSB & CW! Great Job! BTW, Personally I'm turned off by the color choice of the FTdx read outs. Red is just too exciting . . .N8QZ

[@RichardLawn]

Fantastic review Bob and just what I was looking for as I have a 7610 but a friend just bought the FTdx-101d and I’m very intrigued by it and the way Yaesu UI works. The 7610 is the first Icom I’ve owned and I have enjoyed using it but ready to try something else. By the way did you used to live in Austin and work at UT. In those days I was WB0WAG and then W5JAZ. now W2JAZ living in NJ. 73 and thanks for a thorough and unbiased comparison.

[@Yavor54]

Richard- Yup, that was me at UT. Retired up here to Hot Springs in 2003. Hold your horses. I sold the 101D because it was FULL of engineering mistakes. I listed 22 of them and sent it directly to Yaesu. No response. It is their first attempt at SDR. I'm sure they fixed many of the issues in the upcoming FTdx-10. I hope so! I would wait!!!

[@RoelandJansen]

center-scroll and fix-scroll are there since, 2021 or so at the icom radio. so the beep and not showing spectrum/waterfall is a non-issue now. not sure when this was recorded. just a heads up.

[@bobnagy9084]

Yes, I think I com watched my video! Still the big problem for Yaesu is no averaging on the spectrum display.

[@dennyoconnor8680]

Excellent review - my compliments. I have been basically dormant on radio for a decade and now have the bug again. I have on the bench an FT1000Mp Mk-V, Orion-II, and my trusty old Omni 6+. In tinkering around the past few days (thinking strongly about a new radio, esp the 101D) I tripped over a problem. There is not a signal (weak, noisy, DX cw - not much of a phone guy but I do get on) that I cannot get on all 3 receivers. Yes the two newer radios have better selectivity and better NR. Now, I really really like dual receive and waterfall displays. The only annoying thing is these new premium radios have all that, but do not have true diversity receive (phase locked LO signal) I think that I remember the K3 as offering that (true?) So, leaning to the FTdx-101MP - but jeez, the screen looks like a pinball machine. I'll stop babbling now. Cheers, k8do - denny

[@Yavor54]

Denny- My advice for you right now is- hang tight. Don't make a move right now. I'd say the landscape will be significantly better in 6 months.

[@dennyoconnor8680]

@@Yavor54 still hanging, no lightning strike yet. They better hurry, I’ve been good but it can’t last ‘)

[@Nobody-ld7mk]

Around 16 minutes the sync is apparently LC/LC coupled, a little overshoot is expected... Least it's not delayed due to deficient clock speeds in the processor. Nature of the Beast. AOK...

[@Homer19521]

I had a new 7610 over a year ago. On the unit I had, I noticed a "convergence" issue with the screen. It was much like we all saw on old CRT TVs. eg-If I looked at a number on screen of the 7610, I could see a red halo to the right of the number. It was not crisp & clear as with the screen on my lower res 7700. Did you see any of that on yours? Also I did not like the floppy knobs that you pointed out. Not the quality you'd expect from a $3k rig. After 2 weeks, I sent mine back & ate the restocking fee. Nice job on the vid!!

[@robertnagy2163]

No, I have no screen problems. Like I said, they will replace anybody's who wants it- even out of warranty (to my understanding). Amazingly, my brain has tuned-out the slop in the volume controls..it is just not there for me now. It's not an issue after a few weeks. The 7700 I had for a few years was really best at CW...display was slow and the radio was HUGE. Still have an extra 7700 factory manual and top metal cover (with paint blemish) free for anyone who will pay shipping.

[@JimN5QL]

Hi Bob, great video! I am going to get the Yaesu. I need some advice. Is it worth getting the 1.2 kHz ssb filter? I would only get it for the main receiver if I knew it made a worthwhile difference. So, what do you think? Thanks!

[@Yavor54]

Absolutely not. The radio is capable of extraordinary selectivity as is. You get almost nothing from adding it. Bob

[@JimN5QL]

Thanks so much Bob! You save me at least 250 bucks!

[@freddurant7067]

Do a video on the FTDX-10 Please!

[@georgesalinas7206]

Thanks for your analysis. I have the IC 7610 and am considering adding the FTDX 101D to the shack. I would like to read/hear more on how the Ham radio Delux and the WSJTX programs interact with the Yaesu. On the IC 7610 they were easy to setup and a joy to operate. Thanks for the information.

[@Calico5string1962]

Thanks for the review Robert. Having had my 101D for several months now, I must say, still love it! While my Icom 7300 is a neat little rig, with many cool features, the 101D is just such a step up (I know, the 7300 is not a 7610... but it's still an Icom, with Icom's "logic"). Yes, there are some operating peculiarities that are different than the Icom's scheme, but once you're accustomed to them, it's not a big deal. I bought mine very soon after they became available at my US supplier, and well before Sherwood had released their test results. For me, the test data only confirmed what my ears had already been telling me: The receiver is very good! I, too, ran in to the same situation recently: Multiple fairly strong SSB stations, all lined up together on 40m, with minimal seperation between them. I was able to tune to each frequency and station, with minimal interference from the adjacent frequency. When I switched to the 7300, I had a bit of difficulty pulling out some of the weaker ones. Again, there are some peculiarities that one must get used to (perhaps "differences" might be a better description). And yes, there are some changes that I (and many others, I'm sure) hope Yaesu will make to "fine-tune" the operations of the rig, via Firmware updates. But overall, I'm really, REALLY happy with it! Lastly, I don't think you could go wrong with either rig; they are both great in their own respects. You just gotta pick your pony and ride it! 73's, Alan, KV6ARM

[@Yavor54]

Alan- I concur!

[@pu2xbt74]

In your opinion would you put on your desk which of the two radios ?? IC 7610 or FTDX 101D?

[@robertnagy2163]

That is the question of the hour. I own both now. Really, one must go. Today, I feel like I want to see what Yaesu does with Firmware updates in about a month. I've compiled a long list of requests for them. I want everyone's input too. Then we shall see who is king!

[@mikemcdonald5147]

7610 and that's coming from someone who owns an ft897d, ftdx3000, and more. I bought my first Icom the 7100 and things work so much easier plugging into computers, and changing things so much faster. Icom will be my radio of choice from now on. The 3d view looks hokey and more of a toy than a real scope.

[@batfalcononyoutube]

The video is indeed VERY informaive and detailed. Thank you for that. One question though as the looks play a strong role for the decision. Is the s-meter appearance selectable on the 7610? When you select the needle type, which is bigger than the linear one, are all the indicators still visible? Thanks again, 73 de SV1SLB

[@Yavor54]

Indeed you cannot select a needle type meter on the 7610. Would be nice! But no...

[@batfalcononyoutube]

@@Yavor54 ARE YOU SURE? There are so many photos showing the 7610 with needle type s-meters. Even at 4:21 on this video.

[@oe5pop438]

Dear OM´s and YL´s. Witch Radio did you buy? Yaesu or Icom?

[@jamesstavely2404]

check both radios for received signal distortion while the auto-notch is in use. also check auto-notch effectiveness between them. sometimes my yaesu auto-notch worked and sometimes not.

[@r0naldzuccala198]

Hello Bob. I have really learned alot by watching your vids. And for that I thank you. Best regards. Ron z. The north American shortwave radio and toy robot museum.

[@jamesmackinlay4477]

Excellent video review of these two radios in my view each one has very minor advantages and disadvantages of performance and overall operation its all a matter of preference for the end user I guess. One person may like one thing on the Icom better than the Yaesu and vice versa again its a matter of preference. I am a Yaesu person have been since the original FT 101 came onto the scene but have owned them all at one time or another over the years. For what its worth I think they run about neck and neck the Icom is cheaper but I think I like the Yeasu better apples and oranges I guess.

[@robertnagy2163]

Yeah, it really is a close call on these two... and that means that company preference will weigh more heavily. If I can't fall out of love with one of these radios, I'm going to need to generate some $$ to keep them both. It was a risk that video income will cover the loss of selling one used... Just enjoying the 101D this week...

[@radionb3i]

I wish I knew why Kenwood did not go down the SDR route with their 890. Is there something they felt they were losing in going SDR? I know for years I operated cw contest from locations of my friends and I could not wait to return to the clean sound of the crystal filters of the Omni 6. Is that sound what Kenwood is looking for? I did switch 6 years ago when I learned the Omni 6 could not be repaired any longer. I now appreciate the K3 which is rated much higher by Sherwood, but seriously my ears cannot tell a lot of difference. The selectivity of all these radios is so good sometimes I wonder if we might be oversold. Sometimes I like to pull out the K2 just to tell myself how much I enjoy a simple radio.

[@RoelandJansen]

I found crystal-filters to ring too much and also the k3 to sound harsh.

[@robertnagy2163]

It is all about R&D budget. I would venture to guess that Icom and Yaesu sell a lot more radios than Kenwood. To make these two radios, they had to start with a fresh slate. It is a totally different animal with very different failure modes. Kenwood took their existing circuits and re-configured them- with just a little new engineering added. Yaesu re-cycles their mixer and DDS system in the 101D, but had to design the rest from scratch. The 7610 is almost all new other than the Digi-Sel. This is risky marketing for them both. Luckily, SDR IS the future and is actually cheaper to manufacture. There is just a lot less actual circuitry... and more software. Kenwood is hanging on by a rather thin thread. Hopefully they will stick around!

[@RobB_VK6ES]

@@robertnagy2163 Kenwood have always prided themselves on the audio and while SDR's are good it is still reletively new ground. Kenwood has pulled out of Australia save for the handhelds. It will soon be RIP Kenwood I fear.

[@terryglagowski878]

I would be interested in knowing the MARS / CAP capability of these radios... 1) does it require a hardware mod: i.e. removal of a jumper or SMD resistor / diode? 2) does it require a firmware change 3) does it require a whole additional module (FLEX 6600M required this, but the PGXL amplifier did NOT). Terry / W1TR

[@davidray4128]

Best radio comparison I have ever seen on here. Yaesu sadly has the advantage. Both are around $3200 as of now. Might be bringing a Yaesu home from Dayton this year. Thanks . VE3WF

[@robertnagy2163]

Thank you! I don't waste time with flashy graphics- I just try to get to the core of the issues. I don't get the most views, but that is not my goal. I want to help hams make the right decision. 73's Bob

[@davidray4128]

@@robertnagy2163 So did you keep the Yaesu?

[@robertnagy2163]

@@davidray4128 I just put it up for sale here on the forum. If I get an offer, It will ship out!

[@F41Driver]

Hey Robert, Andrew, KD5FHW in Houston here..... I sat down with the 7610 for almost an hour at HRO in Plano and fell in love with the radio, but it was just out of reach budget-wise. My friend had just purchased a used Flex 5000A so I took a look at it and liked it quite a bit, but PowerSDR wasn’t as sharp and modern as the impressive SmartSDR which I had a little experience with at Ham-Com. I decided to save some cash and got myself a 5000A VU and I will have a hard time parting with this one. I came from a 7300, which I loved, but I replaced it for the dual SCU capability. After using the Flex I don’t think I’ll ever go back to knobs unless I’m portable. If I were in the market for one of these radios and had new radio money, I’d have to go with the Flex 6600. One overlooked item that I’ve been enjoying with my Flex is extended transmit and receive bandwidth. I’m not sure how far Yaesu limits you, but the Icom is limited to 3.6KHz RX and 2.8KHz TX. I usually RX 4.5KHz wide and TX 5KHz wide when rag chewing on 75M and 40M if there’s nothing in the passband. It’s so much nicer listening to fuller audio. Of course, I keep a standard 0HZ-3KHz TX profile for the other bands as well as a DX profile, but I really enjoy 75M now.

[@morejelloplease]

cool vid peanut butter ;) have you played with the sunsdr 2 pro or MB1 any?

[@robertnagy2163]

Nope, but have a friend with the MB-1 and he went through Hell trying to get support.

[@Deploracle]

Peanut Butter? You're old school :) He'll always be Plastic Banana to me. Cheers

[@robertnagy2163]

@@Deploracle You know that's right! Plastic Banana, police blotter, purple baboon, pitch black, poison bullet, pea brain, point blank, ..now I have a 4 digit call and nobody can get it right on SSB.

[@Deploracle]

@@robertnagy2163 I may be old but I still remember every single thing said on the old 442.15. You da' man Bob. :)

[@robertnagy2163]

@@Deploracle Yeah, we had a heck of a gang on that UT machine. I shipped 4 AllStar Simplex links to Austin and they cover the entire city. Got them linked up to my Hot Springs Super-Link on the mountain here. In Austin they are 145.575 (East), 446.250 (225?) (central), 145.65 (Central), 145.550 (Bastrop). No PL, just key up on Simplex and wait for the tail to drop before talking. Part of the ole' gang is there.

[@HamTechRadioScannerDrones]

Excellent Video