Inside Star Citizen: Mission Statement 3.24

Join us for a discussion with the Mission Design team to gain some early intel about a new upcoming Global Event and explore the unique features of the Cargo Hauling missions coming in Alpha 3.24.
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[@alvatoredimarco]

"We wanted to make a cargo event because most of our events are really heavy on combat. So we made an event that's also really heavy on combat."

[@zarbonthedestroyer7232]

I dont understand how a statement like that was approved for the video.

[@Holfyy]

Our game is too combat focused what can we do ? Make a combat event !

[@Lord_Kantor]

Lmao

[@Flax968]

cant wait for it.. fill my ship 45min with cargo while it explodes randomly

[@Koppquetscha]

Exactly. Where is tonyZ? Where are actual economy missions/mechanism? We get instead another buggy, boring michael bay episode with a different flavor.

[@GreySix]

They admit to having too many combat missions, and then announce a ... combat mission. I'm shocked I tell you ... shocked.

[@Dekartz]

The rest of that sentence was "and cargo was underutilized" context sir.

[@stratvids]

you forgot the part where they talked about the cargo hulling mission.... you know the second half of the video

[@hunteriv4869]

I've seen this complain a bunch of times but we already have pure non-combat gameplay loops, specifically hauling and mining, with exploration as a future loop (and touring farther on). The point of events isn't to just replace the more generic gameplay loops, it's to combine gameplay loops in a way that encourages cooperation. Many of them have been mostly or almost entirely combat-focused...Xenothreat, Jumptown, etc. All of them have some basic resource aspects but it's not a primary focus. None of the current dynamic events would benefit much from someone showing up in a Caterpillar, for example. The blockade missions focus *more* on cargo and logistics. Bringing in a big cargo ship with a strong escort is going to save you a lot of time and avoid potentially losing cargo. But it would be weird for an event involving blockades and pirates to have no combat.

[@travissmith2848]

Seems a common theme.

[@travissmith2848]

@@hunteriv4869 And why not buy needed supplies from somewhere and zip in quickly?

[@ValcryeTheSecond]

Idk why there can't be some form of "Disaster Aid" event where there's like a fire or outbreak or something and we just have to deliver medical supplies and support. I guarantee something that simple would still have people interested

[@evflyguy]

Definitely more my speed.

[@AlphaCitizen]

Can't wait to run these cargo missions in my Carrack! Oh wait... 😔

[@kilotone74]

However, you can play squash in the hold of the carrack

[@QuotidianStupidity]

Honestly blockade runner sounds like a completely missed opportunity. 1. They preface it by saying missions are too combat focused, then they make it so the mission is combat focused. 2. If the station is being blockaded, they will need more resources than just the boxes that were stolen. They could have created a wish list of items (food, water, medical etc) which players could acquire, run the blockade and deliver for huge mark up bonuses. At least this way you can solo the mission if there isn’t anyone around to protect you. 3. There could be an overwhelming number of injured people on the station. Anyone with a med bed could try to get in and heal some of the people (ai) and get a reward.

[@QuotidianStupidity]

Also why does Nick Wardle sound like a Jarvis style ai! I want my in game Alexa to be voiced by him! 😂

[@Daniel-Strain]

Combat will always be possible, but I think they should have a whole separate team that designs missions under the premise "what are the most fun and interesting missions we can design, if there were NO SUCH THING AS COMBAT in this entire game?"

[@CarterDDana]

I'm sure it's within their ability to iterate on blockade runner and add more over time.

[@Hellhawk]

I love how they say these are weeks away. Soon they'll accounce this is going to be the Citcon patch lol

[@andrewchristian6333]

I’m with you on #2 except that running solo, you’d still need to deal with the blockade ships (which is fine). It should be about breaking thru the blockade to deliver necessities

[@BadTactics101]

An entire gameloop based on elevators...what could possibly go wrong?!

[@michaelpalmiere9923]

ya, they never kill you.

[@Evirthewarrior]

The point is to test it and get people to want to test it... people still seem to miss this game is still testing things.

[@badgerius1]

We have heard the players' concerns and complaints about elevators, and our dev teams are hard at work creating more and bigger elevators. Elevators for ships. Elevators for cargo. You get an Elevator! You get an Elevator! Elevators all the way down!

[@Evirthewarrior]

@@asiftalpur3758 because they would be doing double work, if they focused on stability to the point of making it near perfect, they would have to do that every single time they drop a patch. Making development take longer. Every patch destabilizes games and is full of bugs. Even blizzard 15 years after they released the content, re-released Classic, every patch, even though they already released it before, had bugs and stability problems and they had to scramble to fix them. And that was just the re-release of a completed game.

[@versegen2]

Evo here - the cargo elevators are currently one of the least buggy things in the builds.

[@secondcut3138]

we learned that cargo elevators are still weeks away

[@Billy-bc8pk]

This was filmed two weeks ago.

[@FaireFionwe]

@@Billy-bc8pk Probably later. It seems to react to reaction to SCL two weeks ago, so it's probably less - I really hope we are not still weeks away from cargo missions, especially as they already are at Evocati stage.

[@wavion2]

Can we please get Mobiglass functionality that lets you see what cargo is in any of your ships? That is so annoying that you can only check at a trade terminal, and only if that ship is physically at that location!

[@thekaxmax]

I think, from what I've seen, that that will come with specialised mobiglases

[@kitsterlingstratton2859]

Can you not see it in knick knacks or is that gone with the 3.23/3.24 changes?

[@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145]

@@kitsterlingstratton2859 Pretty sure it shows in Nik Nax/Assets. That app is admittedly pretty clunky and awful to use, but works "well enough" in a pinch.

[@TheNathanfields]

Finally PvE - Player vs Elevator!!!

[@andyandreson3989]

We all know who wins that battle.

[@dasbooterror]

@andyandreson3989 I'd love to refute that but me and my buddy ran into the same elevator a little too fast on New Babbage... and now I'm observing MicroTech from it's core.

[@ivanbluetarski9071]

@@dasbooterror learn to look before you leap lol

[@wengaiden]

Freight elevators in outside outpost: CHAOS

[@dasbooterror]

@@wengaiden one may say "unexpectedly profitable"

[@Taztorien]

no point in stealing those commodities they are only worth 30% of the value

[@matt5781]

So the games first cargo event is based on combat? After 12 years, little surprises me any more with this project but this just about sums things up at this point.

[@zachx1933]

Well what do you really want from a cargo event? Everyone gets in their cargo ships and fly from A to B?

[@CallMeTeach2]

​@zachx1933 I don't really see a need for cargo mission right now, since we still only have one star system to haul this cargo to and from.

[@RSProduxx]

@@zachx1933 Well, that´s probably the same lack of vision that lead CIG to this event...

[@maximusf3063]

@@zachx1933 Yeah dude these space truckers are the most boring people on the planet. Their idea of a good time is roleplaying a warehouse worker.

[@Sylar0n]

@@zachx1933 That is exactly what they want. Look at Elite, people doing "strategic" cargo hauling while hiding in a solo instance. Great "gameplay".

[@mattp1337]

Speaking of Dunkirk moments, maybe when NPC passenger transport is a thing, we could have rescue/evacuation missions where we have to save people off a station or stricken ships. That can include both collecting escape pods as well as collecting conscious and unconscious NPCs that are in EVA or still stuck on board. Some NPCs should also require immediate medical attention. Secondary intrigue can be added by (sometimes) tasking those with the appropriate faction reputations to not rescue people but use the opportunity to secure or steal cargo/data amid the chaos, assassinate or rescue a VIP, or stop/prevent a reactor meltdown or similar calamity and thus buy more time.

[@cv368]

As owner of both an Apollo and a Vulcan i wholeheartedly agree that SAR missions would be cool. As long as there will be other settings than just space battles and pirate attacks

[@mattp1337]

@@cv368 Indeed. Thus the (sometimes). Only a very small percentage of rescue operations should have that thrown into the mix.

[@TheExplant]

fantastic idea

[@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145]

Great idea, hope this makes its way to CIG. I'm sure they are tossing around a lot of ideas for later, when more of the mechanics are fleshed out. Someone else mentioned a Hurston worker uprising... after we get restraints and non-lethal weapons there could be an event where you sign up to help the workers, or help Hurston. Helping Hurston, you're subduing, restraining, and detaining people. Helping the workers, you're bringing medical aid and supplies, helping to secure territory, hacking systems to claim them for the workers, etc.

[@robertkennion9020]

I expect this will be another honyey pot for xenothreat/"bad guy" roleplayers, to come in and try and break the event.

[@NexusGamingRadical]

I hope so tbh

[@twilink5810]

​@@NexusGamingRadical Normally it's an event with a part /mission for the illegal side

[@twilink5810]

For xenothreat there is no PvP side meant to be so not PvP should be there but for blockade normally there is a illegal mission .

[@rixxo]

@@twilink5810 Blockade was ninetails not xenothreat.

[@NukHind]

Pvpers need heavier punishment when at these PVE teamwork events

[@Gwydion_Wolf]

Can you guys PLEASE take one of those screens in the Hull C's cockpit and turn it into a Asop / Cargo Terminal that connects to the nearest station to the ship's location so that we can do any 'computer work' there, rather than having to dock the ship, run halfway across the station, make 1 single action, run all the way back, undock, do that one action, re-dock, make that run again, do another action, run back again, undock, then do that action.?? Please? The "Doubled up to the point of Pain" gameplay loop for Hull C's is literal pain....

[@alandab]

In other words, a combat mission. Got it.

[@andrewhillhouse2435]

cap

[@anubitus]

Lol, yea... Basacly...

[@Hobbs_Gaming]

What happens if the elevator at the outpost (Warehouse) is blocked by several abandoned ships?

[@Schadowofmorning]

They changed the law system, you are now allowed to tractor away the garbage ships(in 3.24).

[@wavion2]

@@Schadowofmorning That is some welcome news! Can you shoot them if your ship doesn't have a tractor beam?

[@kungfuhiker8793]

@@Schadowofmorning need to buyback my SRV now!!!

[@CallMeTeach2]

​@@wavion2yes

[@Sylar0n]

@@kungfuhiker8793 Dont. "Master" modes thinks the tractor is a weapon, so you cannot use it to tow something in quantum. Stupidest limitation ive ever seen. Get a Vulture instead.

[@Pixelbendr]

5:16 game loops being "drawn out" is an understatement

[@carstenschops7797]

Cargo loading is very drawn out now. I have managed to load 4 cans onto a C2 before the server crashed again. I was unable to test getting cargo from an outpost because various bugs prevented me from getting there.

[@RecklessFables]

@@carstenschops7797 So, no improvements since 3.17

[@goldmund22]

@@carstenschops7797 yeah just watching them load this all manually is just frustrating. It would be nice if there was some balance between realism and the fact that this is a game and maybe we all don't want to spend 30 minutes moving boxes with a laser beam, just to crash...

[@zyloctal]

@@carstenschops7797 A good majority of bugs is just the server being overloaded with content. This is why server meshing is needed so badly, and why we don't have hundreds of missions yet.

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

I hope at some point in not too distant a future we get non-profit delivery missions - some hardware in a remote weather outpost has broken and needs replacement parts delivered; an environmental group is asking pilots to collect containers of soil samples of endangered flora species from Hurston to deliver to a lab or a plant conservation farm; a militant union of exploited HD workers has taken over a facility of that corporation and is requesting people to help with supplies of arms; etc, etc, all in return for some non-financial rewards and/or rep. Would involve so many people who are into cause-driven gameplay and not interested in money-making into this cargo gameplay that so much of dev resource has gone into.

[@CallMeTeach2]

I want to see how many people want to do this over combat. I bet the number is staggering.

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

@@CallMeTeach2 I mean, it's a two-way process - you create a universe design where different things exist, people who start doing those things will emerge. The numbers should not be decisive given how CIG constantly says they want a "living, breathing" universe design of a social simulation. You can't have that if you only facilitate combat content.

[@d4yno]

word

[@helloitsjay38]

Any kind of anti-hurston faction would be a hit. Huge potential for setting up missions and pvp or pve gameplay there.

[@Bassndy]

Yes, PLEASE!

[@supraturtle]

So good that we have armistice zones to protect us from tractor beams.

[@CallMeTeach2]

All going away eventually

[@epidemicstudios]

@@CallMeTeach2 Heard that before....

[@ADMNtek]

not anymore since we will need tractor beams to move the boxes.

[@Ivanov51]

you can already use tractor beams inside your hagar...

[@Billy-bc8pk]

@@epidemicstudios It's in the 3.24 patch.

[@Wizartar]

To encourage multicrew delivery add bigger payouts the faster stuff gets delivery, like a "Tip" system for doing a faster job than possible by a single person. Without aUEC payouts around speed there's no point in multi crewing.

[@blacksheepboyz]

Cargo missions are here to provide gameplay for pirates?

[@Betmonty]

Little boxes, on a starship, and they're all full of zeta promalide. Little boxes, on a starship, and they all look just the same...

[@Northlander0395]

I sang this

[@Skar38rus]

how can i protect my ship from ppl who just walk in while i try to load my ship? is there something that will stop other ppl from taking my boxes from that elevator on the moon?

[@mndeg]

yes, bernie sanders

[@Skar38rus]

@@mndeg I’m not sure what u mean

[@carstenschops7797]

You have received more answers to your question than CIG gave to the evocati asking the same question.

[@Integer_Overload]

Use your tractor beam to hit them with a box until they leave you alone or leave this mortal coil

[@IM0001]

One thing would be nice if the Caterpillar would get its loading door elevators working. :/

[@speen8862]

Can’t wait to not use my carrack with the new cargo decks. Would be nice to update the loading of cargo for ships that don’t have a way of loading right now

[@Holfyy]

I'm also so happy to not use my carrack cargo space !!

[@tsakanikasg]

Carrack needs love 😢

[@maxgamesst1]

The carrack sucks as a ship anyway

[@CallMeTeach2]

I hope they do the rework soon

[@mattp1337]

You can have loading/unloading done for you in the 3.24 patch. They've reported this several times, and it's been known for ages that this would be the necessary temporary solution until older ships that were ready for physical cargo get their updates. Your Carrack still has loads of uses.

[@shane7070]

Ever since watching that episode of Cowboy Bebop (Heavy Metal Queen), I've wanted to be a space trucker.... Thank you.

[@analysedean]

this is not it.

[@mstrzg]

lol when I played xeno, the quest was broken and it was just players killing each other

[@kookiespace]

When I played xeno I was the only person there and instantly got killed repeatedly

[@MagicM03]

When at Outposts loading/unloading cargo, how do you plan to prevent others from interfering seeing as though both ship and cargo lift will need to be open and you'll not be able to shoot others because of green zones?

[@DavidLimaGoncalves]

They don't... taking cargo that's for a mission you have not accepted... is stealing, which is what those people will get. A crimestat. Personally, I'm all for it. True freedom with consequences. We just need hi-sec and low-sec systems established in the game for this to be smoother for players. Want safety at the cost of low profits? stay in hi-sec areas. Want high profits? Go to low-sec places, but best to bring escort.

[@realtimbotube]

@@DavidLimaGoncalves "True freedom with consequences." - How about just give us the freedom to defend ourselves? The current system sure doesn't seem very "free", at all. lol Free to watch your stuff get blown up by NPC's and douchebags, is more like it.

[@ConradLarsonGaming]

@@realtimbotube The current system is a placeholder. Armistice zones were always planned to be temporary measures until proper consequence and the law system could take over.

[@Koppquetscha]

@@DavidLimaGoncalvesat least try to understand the problem. Talking big about freedom while crippling the trader. Why an armistice zone? Why not allowing the trader to blow up POS trying to steal their goods? Instead its no risk and maximum profit for anybody who is fast enough to press a button.

[@twilink5810]

​@@DavidLimaGoncalvesthey need to make things for avoiding this type of stealing especially for missions like plyers can't interact on the console if a player is already on the pad.

[@hannoversa]

Loading cargo at mining facilities? what could go wrong?

[@Xulization]

bad servers xD

[@carstenschops7797]

Everyone brought the point of thieves and ship intruders up, The response from CIG was deafing silence.

[@Enakaji]

@@carstenschops7797 You don't even need to really steal it in the classic sense. Going by what the Evos found out in the current patch you can simply walk up to the terminal for the freight elevator that someone else called up with cargo and send it back down, which will transfer the stuff that's on the elevator to your own inventory.

[@Kosty19]

@@Enakaji I'm sure they will fix that soon.

[@kennyb5537]

falling asleep

[@merclord]

I never liked the 9 Tails lockdown, but this sounds a lot more interesting.

[@nobodiecmoi9063]

I've waited 10 Years for the Cargo missions ! Thank YOU !!!

[@antoniodeb94]

what's the REASON to use the DRAKE MULE. TELL ME

[@wavion2]

You use the Drake Mule when you have a mission box and want it to get stuck and unrecoverable so you fail the mission.

[@carstenschops7797]

LTI Token.

[@RosscoAW]

It was filler work to onboard new designers and artists, as are most small craft that are used as "break periods" between larger, more complex deliverables (big ships). This has always been the case, and will always be the case: they have explained how this works in literally almost every single discussion about the ship teams. Literally every single time the ship teams have talked publicly about large vs small deliverables, they have explained this universal fact of game development.

[@FaireFionwe]

@@RosscoAW That's hardly a reason for not putting a gravity beam on the mule.

[@joeylk4d4]

It's the smallest vehicle that has an enclosed cockpit. Fits in the vulture, Cutty Red, walkway of a C2 between the cargo grids, and it looks awesome with the green Halloween skin.

[@bnut1979]

Please tell me they will have the Hull-C in a usable state in 3.24. The current king of cargo deserves to be usable for THE cargo patch.

[@CallMeTeach2]

Using a Hull C in one system doesn't make any sense to begin with. It should've waited to come out until we had more systems for it to travel to. It's useless right now and it'll stay that way until it has longer travel times through other systems.

[@mattp1337]

They said just in the last week that they have a team actively working on a rework of docking right now, and that it's a high priority. Not surprising, as it'll also be needed so they can release the Legionnaire soon-ish. I don't recall if the placeholder Hull C cargo loading mechanic was also getting any love RN.

[@bnut1979]

@@CallMeTeach2 Why doesn't it make sense? What if there are several Iron mines on moons around a planet and another planet uses that iron, in massive quantities, to build oh...I don't know C2/M2/A2s (Crusader) or Weapons (Hurston). Wouldn't the most efficient way to move the iron from one planet to another or all other planets in a single route be in a Hull?

[@Disc0rd83]

all of this sounds pretty fun !! can't wait this 3.24 ! ^^

[@PreacherGannon]

This looks like a lot of fun! Can't wait to try it. You hit it on the head, the Fun of XT is that banding together in whatever roles we most enjoy and all having a hand in getting it done even if all we want to do is be the air superiority, or the hauler, or the loaders, or the entry force breaching the ship and clearing ground targets. Would be cool to see a version of it on the surface where the cargo is already on the ground in the open defended by ground forces, requiring tanks and drop ships to breach the perimeter. Can't just bomb it if the cargo will be in the way so we HAVE to bring the fight to the surface. Or a mix of this but for solo/small groups as with mrt hrt vhrt and ert type missions..but with cargo so it's not IF, but WHEN I WILL be interdicted by various enemies and have to take them out to continue my delivery. Make my Andromeda and Corsair, or fully Crewed A2 really feel like the only right choices for the job. Give me a reason to HAVE to leave my Inferno, Hornet, etc at home to succeed.

[@williammagill5555]

I can imagine a gun running ring starting in Grim Hex with players buying and selling from what they loot during missions undercutting the NPC stores

[@XxXnonameAsDXxX]

Are you saying that in a universe where thousand of pleayers will be no one will disrupt your loading of freight elevators while handling your quests/gear? How will this be resolved to stop people stealing from each other?

[@alekmosingiewicz]

Remember, we were to get something like that in Elite Dangerous?

[@dipperspace]

and thank God we didn't get that kind of trash

[@Trampus10-4]

(2:40) This is what was blowing my mind as I was one of these people! Played multiple roles and was just a blast!

[@m.e.5450]

Hope one day we get rid of these ridiculous beams to move stuff around, weren’t they just a place holder till we have forklifters/ loading drones for the Hull series and npc loading crews? Its the most immersive braking thing in the game.

[@tokkyor]

What if i wait a transporter and i steel his cargo when he start to move the scu ? Can this guy defend himself or did he just get robbed and can do nothing about it ?

[@carstenschops7797]

I was unable to verify this so far, but the armistice at bigger outposts is still present. My guess is: yes, you are screwed. Also, boarding ships is really easy now since they have to be open for extended periods of time..

[@ADMNtek]

apparently if you call up cargo in an elevator another player can just run up to the terminal send it back down and then it is theirs. i call that peak game design.

[@RosscoAW]

Presumably, that is theft, and the law engine knows it's theft. If you are getting commodity delivery missions from Contracts that track "pre-purchased" cargo crates that are explicitly flagged as stolen if they are stolen, then I think it's pretty safe to say that exact same tech will be used for player theft. Somebody has boxes called up from an elevator, and you tractor beam them out of their elevator, and you aren't in their party? Law violation. Presumably, they will permit you to defend goods from being stolen: which is to say, if somebody tractors or grabs one of your flagged cargo in an area that has law enforcement (which nearly all landing pads, and every single hangar, does) you can then shoot them in the head, legally. I think shooting a thief in the head is a pretty good protection against theft. Conversely, if the area is more threatening then just a single other player, you'll probably just *not use the hangar and avoid the risk of theft and/or death.* Literally all of that sounds exactly like the intended gameplay loops, to me. I don't know where you could be getting the idea from that *every single time you use the cargo elevators you are going to have an absolute 0% chance of player theft occurring,* when it's pretty obvious that they don't intend the system to be theft proof, given that would be a reduction of viable gameplay loops, and we know full well they intend for piracy and outlawry to be a fully legitimate gameplay style. TL:DR: He's getting robbed, and he can defend himself. If he fails to defend his cargo, it's going to get stolen. That's how theft works.

[@GeekyGizmo007]

Please make cargo events for ALL sizes... anywhere from single seater cargo ships (2-6) SCU and up! Low volume, high value AND high volume, low value. I want to be a smuggler! I have a 315p decked out in stealth components and distortion weapons for this purpose.

[@williamjames1341]

all previous events have been about combat so we changed it up to make it MORE combat lol

[@JohnVanderbeck]

I am actually excited for the hauling missions. I do wish the Carrack would get it's cargo bays working though so I could actually use it for these :(

[@jsbfe9395]

I wish that too, but I won't be holding my breath.

[@Beeponomics]

Keep dreaming

[@manta5374]

I mean, you got one here, but it's more focused on combat.

[@Eden_North]

This looks just awesome! Cannot wait to play it. Great job all.

[@eltreum1]

Looking forward to this new iteration of lockdown. Thanks to all the devs who jump on these to share their thoughts.

[@Kuhesgewehr]

This looks fun. The multi role pickup nature of XT was awesome and it's good to hear the devs agree and want that kind of gameplay to reoccur.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Looks great but man I was really hoping for a surprise drop of showing the Carrack with it's working cargo bays.

[@123reivaj]

I miss the ISCs where CIG showed a little bit of everything

[@realtimbotube]

They've got nothing to show. Next patch is going to be hangars that were already implemented in the game years ago.

[@maximusf3063]

​@@realtimbotube Remember when they talked about modular hangars since 2013? Wow, so much progress. Honestly don't know what these guys get paid for. Evocati is showing that the whole cargo elevator and inventory system is a buggy disaster, as usual with CIG. Don't worry we'll make issue council reports that will get 1000's of votes and they'll stay broken for 12 months+.

[@arrclyde4325]

Oh i have my little toe tickeling. That normally happens before big desatsters. Players vs NPCs with distortion weapons advised and not killing the enemy ships while every player knows qhere thise ships are and where they will go to...... I have absolutely NO IDEA how this could POSSIBLY ever go horribly wrong. 😂😂😂

[@Thats_IV]

So...Nine tails player side will know exactly where to camp for supply ?

[@ClarkH7]

Could not do the last part of Xenothreat with my son due to things not spawning in. Still waiting on a support ticket after 17 days and I am afraid we missed getting the armor. Not really excited about another event until everything works.

[@SpaceMike3]

So Tony Z isn't there anymore?

[@V3T_SC]

There's no universe without his tech...

[@ryancowgill]

I think it's pretty clear at this point. He's either there and completely out of the picture (which I can't believe) or gone.

[@AbdiYohan]

He's there. SpaceTomato's community confirmed it when they said he was seen and talked to in person in TX.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

On the CiG page he's listed as being in charge of PU. At least a few weeks ago when I last looked.

[@wavion2]

I think they stopped letting Tony Z talk on camera, because he was too open. Talked too much about things they wanted to do but may or may not deliver. He'll probably get a panel at CitizenCon though.

[@sakibkamal3228]

.... But will the station assign a hanger when i press Alt + n?? Will the elevator work when i press 8 times? Will the boxes glitch? Will my ship randomly start spinning in outerspace and crash into the station with all the cargo in it? - all those things happened to me yesterday; Asia server.

[@scislife2398]

Yes...

[@caintindal1671]

Well now you got this cargo going now for the NPC Employee to help transport it onto and off the ship.

[@SuperRed876]

you guys should hire an acutal economist for consulting and to redesign reward systems.

[@rankcolour8780]

Wanna say thanks to the devs that take the time to sit in front of a camera to do this for us, it isn't natural or comfortable and is probably well outside of their comfort zone. Cheers lads.

[@Vidz0022]

they have more important things to be doing than making marketing videos

[@ErikLiberty]

@@Vidz0022 This development update video is to inform the backers so that they aren't kept in the dark about the progress of the game, which is what backers complained about for years.

[@rankcolour8780]

@@Vidz0022 Yeah they could be using their time off and free time for their own ends but instead they do this for us. Content like this is extracurricular for them.

[@jvickodil]

​@@Vidz0022 dude I agree man they should be fixing this mess they call a game

[@jvickodil]

Stop giving crappy devs praise for crappy work man it's been many years and the game is a wreck

[@CMDR_MURR]

Alright, attacking and taking cargo from a pirate hull c sounds awesome. Nice! ❤

[@PatrickFisker]

I wonder if they use HDR or SDR to shoot these videos in-game.

[@talscorner3696]

Ngl, I could see myself camping cargo elevators to help people move boxes faster or heal them when they come out of their ship

[@theonefallengod]

There should be some kind of weight limit for these tractor beam guns. Pretty unrealistic watching a small person lifting a gigantic shipping container.

[@joeswanson420]

They do have a weight limit. The ptv or stv is their limit in terms of weight then you move up to the 2 handed version to lift tanks and even some smaller ships

[@jful]

The tractor beam is totally normal though, but imagining a tractor beam that can make a large weight more manageable is where you draw the line I guess.

[@joeswanson420]

@@jful yea in lore it's supposed to be from manipulating gravity fields using the powerful battery's in the gun but the battery's currently aren't used but I think they said in 3.24 that the consumption will be turned on so at least it's not a forever beam currently

[@FieldHoodGaming]

New content :) thank you CIG

[@ilift13]

Would love to get a Jared Tshirt, something with one of his catchphrases on it added to the store

[@HK94]

Cargo need some love for sure. And hope we get some ultra rare and supper valuable cargo in the future. Not everything has to be about how much scu you can carry....

[@odonovan]

Just get rid of the criminals and combat, for crying out loud. What cargo haulers need is a "Berlin Airlift" style event, with ZERO combat.

[@JoeTheSpaceGuy]

How does the cargo elevators work with the Hull C? You need the spindles to be extended to attach cargo!

[@Raptorman386]

you will have to park the hull c outside of atmo and use a smaller cargo ship to offload the hull c and bring it to the spaceport to store in the cargo elevator. will need a crew to move boxes and a crew to defend the hull C while in orbit and a crew to defend the ferry ship. or stick to your space stations and 5 hour wait time. hull C is not a solo ship if wanting to use hanger elevators. you might luck out in a dead server from time to time tho

[@SternLX]

I would suggest you reserve your Hull C for Station to Station hauls. Which is exactly what it's for.

[@chrischeers8081]

I've been waiting for cargo hauling missions since the PU went live! Grinding on low value cargo until you have enough capital to make decent money is painful (without explouts)! Being able to make that money on someone elses cargo is what us haulers have been missing!!

[@DigThat32]

LEGGOO!

[@AbdiYohan]

o7 DigThat!

[@CallMeTeach2]

It tells me to translate your comment to English. Hahaha but it is.

[@CoyoteOne]

So whats stopping me from showing up at an outpost and taking the cargo from your hangar for myself?

[@carstenschops7797]

Nothing.

[@oceanaa967]

Nothing but they did say it won’t be worth much to take and sell so not much point to do so but to mess with someone

[@mdsf01]

Your conscience.

[@captainfach]

Now I've seen just about everything. An entire Dev video where the most hyped point is the inclusion of another type of elevator

[@shaddouida3447]

The United Empire of Earth Marines (UEEM) is the military branch of the United Empire of Earth that is only tasked with the most crucial missions, never for routine operations. Their ranks consists of selected soldiers out of the other branches and a direct application is not possible. Although the advanced technologies available to them, combined with their training, their charter gives them great freedom of action in the use of force, it is rare to witness Marine Operations in civilized space and when that is the case everyone in the area understands that it is a place to avoid at all costs.

[@azmolis8834]

I love this game so much thx you guys.

[@USArmy31]

Get off your knees

[@north_borne]

@@USArmy31 Cope

[@lowkeysmokes5663]

@@USArmy31 his c2 is full of ppl on their knees

[@onexlifeonly132]

​@@USArmy31 Cope

[@timothyrudiger3033]

hauling is finally getting even better. So excited for that.

[@SpaceDad42]

But it’s not

[@LordKalte]

It's be nice to have the option to choose servers where events aren't happening and since they make your servers lag. Or simply a seperate instance we jump to that doesn't affect the servers

[@MrDecelles]

I'm just going to wait for a ship and sneak in...

[@stuarth317]

Immediately goes to Reddit... More seriously, it's great to see cargo gameplay coming to the game. I can't wait to give it a try and appreciate all the hard work that has gone into making it a reality.

[@Storm-Cleaver]

I loved the original 9Tails lockdown. I loved going around Stanton to fill up on the needed cargo, then *_avoiding_* combat to deliver it. And then, _if I wanted to,_ taking a combat ship out into the fray and pushing back 9Tails. This looks fun, but... it also just looks like a slightly modified, reskinned XenoThreat using the new boxes.

[@Jess_2k]

This might be the first event i gladly take part in!!

[@tacboy78ify]

I would advise anyone after the stolen cargo to sub-target the engines of the ship to disable it. This is if you don't have distortions (idk if they are even effective right now anyway) You can sub-target using the "R" key.

[@ZurdoFTW]

Lmao just in time!

[@GigumRajagurubestguy]

nahh you seconds late :3

[@RobinHartJones]

What worries me is that there does not seem to be anything stopping pirates from just sitting at an outpost and waiting for someone to ask for cargo then just tractoring it off his elevator or ramp into their own ship. That means you could have a real (weapons disabled strugge to get all the crates loaded safely then guns & missiles as soon as you leave the AZ. At the end of it the EVR algorithm will say 'You only had to move 10scu from an outpost up to the LEO above. Five minutes max with no risk so we are not paying much ;-)

[@mndeg]

bernie sanders will stop them

[@carstenschops7797]

Luckily, this will not happen at outposts without an armistice where you could defend your cargo. These outposts do not sell items any more.

[@RobinHartJones]

@@carstenschops7797 So you are.saying that when we are given a mission to fetch some iron, as in the example in the video, we won't be going to a mining outpost?

[@shaddouida3447]

The United Empire of Earth Navy is the Navy branch of the United Empire of Earth military. It is the largest of the three branches and public face of the United Empire of Earth military. It is responsible for transportation of military resources, maintaining the borders and waging military strikes throughout the UEE. Service members of the Navy are deployed in nearly every system of the empire. In the early days of humanity’s expansion into space, the unified Navy primarily served as a police force, patrolling the systems for damaged or broken down ships. Upon the discovery of the Banu, the government realized that the Navy needed to be re-purposed as a military presence. The Navy’s fleet began to swell as it was the most obvious visual representation of humanity’s military strength. Fueled by the never-ending stream of stories and Vids of daring pilots, recruits flocked to the Navy’s stations to sign up. Even before the Draft of the First Tevarin War, the Navy’s enlistment numbers had barely dipped. During the Messer Era, the Navy, along with the rest of the UEE military, grew at an exponential rate; helping in the Imperator’s mad dash for planets and systems. Structurally, the UEE Navy is formed around Squadrons which are assigned a carrier and a fluctuating number of support ships. An Admiral is in charge of the carrier and squadron with Wing Commanders running the multiple Wings that operate at any given time. Recruits train in the shadows of the massive shipyards at the academies and boot camps on MacArthur in the Kilian system.[1]

[@chowpal9810]

mission seems wonderful! I just hope that server withstands all those debris and scattered cargo well, and mission operates as it was designed to do.

[@hanthostaal7131]

Nice to see that all our feedback was tossed out the window for yet another pew-pew event. Thanks, I guess...

[@hltechie]

Looks like some really fun missions! Cant wait to play 3.24

[@Wiborg-jy6ro]

Can i spawn vehicles in ships directly, like the Ursa and the Pisces in the Carrack?

[@scislife2398]

No, but you can spawn an Ursa in your hanger, drive it off the pad, spawn your ship then drive it inside

[@MarekMoowi]

Nice, now I have even less reasons to play. I love SC, but I'm an introvert. I find it difficult to play multiplayer games where I have to interact with others. Please, give us more solo missions!

[@FelixNewname6917]

Space trucking! Let’s goooo

[@zarbonthedestroyer7232]

Jared acting like the numbers we see aren't real yet and implying they'll go up and we won't get angry. Everyone knows they will lower the payout.

[@maxgamesst1]

Yeah it's insane how bad the cargo team is at balancing literally anything in this game

[@dasbooterror]

Starcitizen disrespecting player time? heavens no. Say it isn't so!

[@mndeg]

​@@dasbooterrorplay idle clicker games instead

[@jeremylanier4743]

By combat heavy they mean a linear combat model. Threat, kill the threat, mission over. This is more collect cargo while in constant threat.

[@Nope-55]

How about putting a cargo grid in the 600I explorer and a sale button to for fuel at all locations for my starfarer so it not a $330 pixel, sitting in my hanger

[@gratchhalloway4463]

My daughter was just born an hour ago! How soon can she enlist!?

[@jful]

Bet you're looking forward to having a celebratory drink with her for the 1.0 release!

[@stuarth317]

@@gratchhalloway4463 congrats!

[@realtimbotube]

Either you have to be full of p00p, or you have some very interesting life priorities.

[@gratchhalloway4463]

@@jful Looks that way!

[@theHedgehogPro]

so excited for this focus on cargo!

[@misstressscarlet]

Combat. They have to include combat in everything.

[@Kyrinson]

I'm hoping that they don't forget to have cargo missions that the smaller cargo ships like the freelancer or cutlass can do instead of just the larger ships.

[@captainfach]

Our events have been heavy on combat.... so now our event is going to be heavy on combat, but a couple dude s get to be in cargo ships trying not to die

[@shakes268]

Are you going to put the RAFT, Caterpillar and any other cargo haulers back in the pledge store?

[@MrMutterbug]

Was thinking the same.

[@Ace-Brigade]

You f*ing know it. But the RAFT still won't have it's tractor beam.

[@suboptimal4539]

@@Ace-Brigadeand the Cats tractor beams still will be useless. But hey! Get a C2! 😂

[@mattp1337]

The RAFT, Caterpillar, and indeed *most* ships are only available for purchase for limited time periods throughout the year. This has always been the case. Either watch special event announcements on the main page of CIG's site, and whatever ships may be available during that event, or come back during IAE in November when EVERYTHING is available.

[@Ace-Brigade]

@@suboptimal4539 lol, I mean I already have one of those too. Doesn't make me any less frustrated that they didn't fix the one ship they literally sold for this next upcoming patch.

[@anaryl]

Most games have content in them after ten years, rather than dripping in some fetch quests every year or two and calling them events.

[@scislife2398]

Cool story bro 👍

[@Tradewindz]

Amazon Space Trucker. Hey, can I punt the delivery from orbit? You know, to make sure?

[@citizen_or_civilian]

At first I thought it said: "His mom has never seen the sun." Jesus Christ Jared... What did you do?

[@manuelgrewer7456]

If current missions are too heavy on combat, why blockade runner and not some relaxing space trucking missions? I really don't get the mission priorities.

[@adamchambers1393]

Half the video is about being space trucking and not just the dynamic event.

[@Koppquetscha]

Transportation could’ve included so many loop related, interesting mechanics. Different goods you can transport (not only boxes), sensitivity of cargo, finally some news on tony z’s economy mechanics, ingame tools for the economy/trading etc. Instead we get ferrying differently colored boxes from a to b (something we did already before but with our own money as merchants) and another pewpew event.

[@mattp1337]

Space trucking missions are literally on the PTU right now and will release to the PU with the 3.24 patch.