Gideon's Way Ep 14 The Tin God 7/11/64

[@josephazzopardi322]

I never thought I would see these episodes again. I was about ten at the time and have fond memories of watching them on tv with my late parents, God bless their souls. Many thanks for posting.

[@juliemunro1]

I'm not sure my parents would have even allowed me to watch them. I spent a lot of time with my grandmother and her preference was for romantic films

[@robertdiamond2830]

i also

[@joanthomas7244]

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[@124gbb]

I live in the USA and am a big John Creasey fan. I've read most of the Gideon books and was thrilled to see this show. Thanks, this made my day.

[@woodentie8815]

I remember, as a kid in the 60s, being spellbound by Creasey's 'Gideon' books - unputdownable then!

[@clareshaughnessy2745]

I found a couple of Gideon books in a charity book sale recently. My mum had loads of his books and I’d never read any, now I’m addicted and searching for my next fix!!!

[@Tourist1967]

I could have sworn that was a very young Sir John Hurt - and it was. Amazing.

[@jacksugden8190]

Long gone RIP

[@biaedwards4025]

Thank you for uploading this well-scripted, well-acted series. So glad not to have missed it - decades later. A very young John Hurt is in this episode. Derren Nesbitt is superb as Ben.

[@jacksugden8190]

I watched it when it first came out

[@ByteCounter]

50 years ago, I was in my early teens and this was one of my favourite programmes. The memories flood back! Thank you so much for the posting.

[@robinvaughan5212]

Glad you like it! I remember I was 9 yrs old and John Gregson came to my home town (Rayners Lane) to open a jumble sale. Didn't know who he was at the time. He said to look out for his new TV series starting that night and I rushed home to tell my Mum and Dad. Watched it and was hooked! I will upload some more episodes soon, so look out for them or subscribe to my channel.

[@duncanrobinson3200]

This series is amazing; I was born in June 1964, just before this series was made; I can recognise the shots in Manchester around Strangeways and the sidings just outside Victoria Station in Manchester - I still live in the Manchester area, great days gone forever; John Gregson was one of my late fathers favourite actors.

[@PaulDavis-jb1bx]

I used to love watching this when I was a teenager, Great to see it again

[@richardstone5813]

The school sequence was shot at Bushey Manor primary school. I am one of the kids kicking a ball in the playground with my best friend Steve Pollard. I recall they rehearsed it quite a few times. The wood yard next to the school had a huge electric saw that screamed when it cut large planks. We could hear it even in the class rooms.

[@robinvn]

Wow, thanks for the info Richard. Interesting to know that,

[@ericanderson9664]

Love to see the locations

[@footfault]

You're a star!

[@weedme4932]

THAT'S JUST TO COOL INDEED 😊 CIDEONS WAY ONE SCOOTERS..... pt ll THE ENDING OF IT THAT'S JUST TO AWESOMENESS IT'S THE SAME FACTORY AS ON PINK FLOYD ANIMALS LP...... Weed Me

[@linx2087]

Bit of artistic licence going on there cos Sid being 13 wouldn't be attending a primary school.

[@doreenogorman8779]

Really young Derren Nesbit and John Hurt. Thanks for sharing these episodes of Gideons way

[@jow6845]

well done 👏🏻

[@nickmoore9643]

I thought that was John Hurt I have only up to now seen him as a more mature man.

[@latimeralder1]

I wasn't expecting this to be much good 50 years on. But it was very well done. And what a different world it was when I was a child in those days....

[@clareshaughnessy2745]

The loveliest thing was the lack of traffic

[@highpath4776]

@@clareshaughnessy2745 Mostly filming would be done on sundays, backscene filming weekdays from the back of a motorbike or similar

[@clareshaughnessy2745]

@@highpath4776 that’s really interesting! Are you just a film buff or do you have insider knowledge?

[@highpath4776]

​@@clareshaughnessy2745 I notice a lot of TV filming out and about when I am travelling around the City of London at weekends. ( I forgot too the City of London tends to be empty on Saturdays too, though as you say the amount of the suburban traffic around the film studio areas has increased since the mid 1960s (Borehamwood High Street used to be popular film locations - I just use the locations guides for the likes of The Saint and The Sweeney that are on line then and now picture comparisons).

[@highpath4776]

@@clareshaughnessy2745 The area around the St Katherines Dock / London Dock was interesting, I have not really walked around there, being south london so know more about Butlers Wharf Area, but It appeared in one of the episodes of The Sweeney with the two australian con-men in (George Lazenby and Patrick Mower), as the much more up-market yatch marina. London Dock became the walled up area that was the News Corporation (Sun/murdoch) Printing and Publishing after they moved out of Fleet Street and was always a Fortress to really get into.

[@michaelreid6937]

I'm loving this show that I'd heard about from friends in the UK 🇬🇧! So pleased that I recognized young John Hurt. 😊

[@tracysutton7408]

Takes me back to when I was twelve or thirteen years old. Thank you.

[@anaderol5408]

A young and yet to be famous John Hurt - took me a while to recognise him.

[@DeirdreMcNamara]

I worked with Hurt on Sinful Davey, dir Huston. I suspect someone bought it out to prevent distribution!!! One of those experiences when I discovered my performances were far too convincing... Hurt was a gentleman.

[@butkovicharts]

I'm an American and was born when "Gideon's Way" was being made in 1964... but thank God for reruns and KZbin! I have always been a Angelophile since I was a kid, watching PBS British Comedies in the early 1970's of Benny Hill, Monty Python, Butterfies, Are You Being Served, Up Stairs Down Stairs, and so on... But never did we had Gideon's Way featured then. Thank God I must say again for KZbin or I'd never have known of such a great British crime show as only the British can do. It's right up there with Basil Rathbone's Sherlock from the 1940s. Loving every episode I've seen thusfar!

[@robinvn]

Glad you enjoyed it 😊

[@mcpheejesus5945]

Another great episode! I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for the upload, Robin!

[@robinvn]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lynne150351]

this and no hiding place were the best cop shows, raw and gritty, without the need for profanities , I have all these on dvd, great to go back in time to the good old days

[@robinvn]

Yeah, great old series Lynne. Love the old black & white British thrillers too

[@lynne150351]

so do I, I seem to spend all night watching the old movies, Gideon of the yard with Jack Hawkins is a great film.

[@robinvn]

I will post more Gideons when I get my PC back. Just moved back from USA so things still packed.

[@butkovicharts]

I read through some of the comments herein, and I must say... I'm very surprise that either -no one recognized him or rather thought anything in pointed him in being in this episode of Gideon's Way... that is say, featuring a very young "John Hurt". Yes! It is him as the second escaped convict. I noted it when in one of his scenes, in smoking a ciggie... he did so as John was famous for in how he held the cig between his two fingers -almost in a feminine fashion... just like in "Midnight Express". But what an awesome job of acting he offered even then at a young age!! Loved this episode!

[@jacksugden8190]

What about John Gregson?

[@heatherp6618]

Thanks very much for putting up Gideon's Way, really enjoyed it. Much appreciated.

[@robinvn]

Thanks Heather. I will upload more soon.

[@jimskinnermusicetc.811]

A great show. Quite enjoyable. I hope you put on more like this. Thank you much.

[@heatherfulmore3412]

Yes it wad a great show.

[@marsh443]

👏Another stellar GW episode! 'Naked City' was a NYC cop drama which ran in the States at the same time, I'll watch it' reruns 4ever! It's gr8, that I may now add ur flawless-quality GW episodes to my retro TV program! That era of TV & motion pictures NEVER GETS OLD! Tkx for reminding us just how gr8 it truly was👍

[@louisescanlon7478]

Thank you so much again .🤗⚘🤗⚘

[@williamr3840]

Benson played by the guy who was the SS officer in Where Eagles Dare (and also Number 2 in an episode of The Prisoner). John Hurt who I once met whilst walking along Shaftesbury Avenue in London. :0)

[@VLind-uk6mb]

Also lead actor in Special Branch.

[@scottscott232]

Many many thanks to Robin Vaughan for making this available for us all to enjoy.

[@robinvn]

Glad you liked it Steve. Must get around to uploading some more!

[@FreddieHolt-tp5vb]

very very very good 20 at. 10

[@marsh443]

Here here!

[@AJPIZZAMAN1]

loved watching this show

[@geoffjoffy]

I didn't know John Gregson did a TV series. Thanks for uploading.

[@13699111]

Thank you for posting this great series

[@misssparky5574]

Watched every episode on a channel called talking pictures tv, it broadcasts on freeview and sky tv.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

I'm a relative youngster but we never saw this series in Australia that I can recall. Thanks for posting Awesome.

[@robinvn]

Glad you got to see it 😊

[@geoffhorgan6253]

My Dad would nt let me see this at 14 years old but can watch it now super series

[@mishahul]

thanks Robin I saw in in my childhood days in the 60s could not understand much of it at the time as I did not know much English at that time in Malaysia. but i loved it. it is one of my childhood memories which linger on! thanks mate!

[@robinvn]

Glad you liked it Shahul! My childhood time too and still love the old British classics like this. I will find time to upload some more!

[@squitzy]

Great show. Thank you for posting. Love the location shooting.

[@soonerterp]

Glad I found this! My interest in this series was piqued when it referenced in an episode of 'Endeavour' (the Inspector Morse prequel).

[@robharding1957]

AS A YOUNG BOY IN THE 60'S I used to think this actor who plays John Hurts Partner in crime, was one of the Thunderbird's. wasn't for quite some time that I realized he wasn't .

[@routeman680]

He has that chiselled kind of face!

[@lordeden2732]

His acting has the same plastic quality.

[@45tofu]

wow a very young John Hurt!

[@fragen999]

There was one brief shot of Randolph Ave London W9 where I used to live.It was used in the Sweeney and many other programs.

[@Steven_Rowe]

When this went to air in July 1964 it was only a few weeks before the last hangings took place at Strangeways and Walton Prison on the same day in August 1964

[@trilbywilby7826]

Harry Junkin was the script supervisor and Monty Berman the producer for The Saint with Roger Moore!

[@robinvn]

Yes, I remember Monty Berman doing The Saint.

[@stevengrotte2987]

I was hoping it was Jack Hawkins as Gideon. Thanks for downloading it.

[@robinvn]

Afraid not Steven. Always liked John Gregson though. Will do some more soon.

[@stevengrotte2987]

+Robin Vaughan Thank you, looking forward to them. btw my favorites are UK comedies and slightly less military pictures , film and tv. I happen to dislike horror/monster films/ tv. I also love old radio shows have only heard a few from the UK, South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand. BTW I only speak and understand English----kinda, I'm American, please don't hold that against me---too much.

[@robinvn]

+Steven Grotte Did you ever see a great UK comedy from the 70's called 'Mind your language?' Still funny to this day but could never show it on TV now because of the pc brigade. One of the actresses on there: Francoise Pascal, absolutely beautiful and sex in it, is now a Facebook friend of mine and she is still delightful. :-)

[@footfault]

Right, me too.

[@robwilde855]

@@robinvn It's on KZbin now.

[@48talley]

The young actor who took the part of Sid is Michael Cashman who was in a variety of roles on tv and films (including East Enders). He gave up acting for a political career and is now the labour peer, Baron Cashman.

[@VLind-uk6mb]

I remember him as Mike Wallace in The Sandbaggers. This was his first role.

[@miked6335]

Holy smokes! That was Colin from EE? I thought the name sounded familiar but came here first before looking it up. Nice one picking that up.

[@philthycat1408]

The good old days . Before CCTV

[@jennyoshea1958]

Lol so true 😄

[@SuperIliad]

The Tin God, Season 1, Episode 14, aired Nov 7, 1964. John Gregson as Commander George Gideon; Alexander Davion as Detective Chief Inspector David Keen / Chief Insp. David Keen; Daphne Anderson as Kate Gideon; Derren Nesbitt as John 'Benny' Benson; Jennifer Wilson as Ruby Benson; John Hurt as Freddy Tisdale; Arthur Lovegrove as Uncle Charley; Michael Cashman as Syd Benson; Hugh Ross Williamson (as Ian Rossiter) as Det. Chief Supt. Joe Bell; Sidney Vivian (as Sydney Vivian) as Danny; Jack Rodney as Taffy Jones; Vincent Harding as Pc. Lashbrook; Giles Watling as Malcolm Gideon; John Corrie, Detective; Shelley Crowhurst as Liz Benson; Alan Meacham, Woodyard Worker; Tony O'Leary, Policeman; Robert Rowland, Black Cab Driver; John Tatham, Man in Street; Bill Westley Sr., Woodyard Worker.

[@routeman680]

One of the two young blokes is John Hurt, later knighted. I has no idea he was on TV before the movie A Man for All Seasons.

[@generalpublic3744]

Of course, Strangeways was renowned for its very best barbers doing those bespoke haircuts.

[@tedthesailor172]

Crikey - olde-world London with ships still in the The Pool near Tower Bridge and all those great big warehouses off the Highway, now converted into media firms and posh apartments, St Katherine's Dock marina and Rupert Murdoch's newspaper empire.

[@robwilde855]

Indeed! That's a big plus with this type of film. I enjoy it for the sheer history but also because I was a lorry driver in those days, often visiting the many London docks as well as other British ports. There was such variety of ships, and seemingly infinite variety of cargoes, all being loaded and unloaded and stored, with hooks and chains and nets and pallets, by crane and by hand; and the lorry loads had to be sheeted and roped with the special dolly hitches to tighten the ropes. All this, that had buzzed with such life for hundreds of years, was run down in the seventies. By now there are much fewer ships in the world, they are mostly similar in type, and everything is out of sight in containers - interesting enough in its way, but by comparison with those times, as dull as ditchwater. Economists and politicians never consider the sheer enjoyment factors when they instigate changes. The only negative was that the dockers pilfered a lot, and their unions had enough power to stymie any attempts to prevent it. As a driver you had to turn a blind eye, and even sometimes receive 'bribes' in kind, otherwise on your next visit you'd be left for hours or days without attention. However, dockers in places like Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester, Hull, and all Scottish ports were pretty nice people, in contrast to the East-end Londoner dockers, who with few exceptions took pleasure in being unhelpful.

[@carlkalman1148]

I can see why Darren Nesbit got the role of Gestapo “Major von Hapen” in the film “Where Eagles Dare” a few years later. Both characters are portrayed with the same cold and callousness outlook.

[@winonamassingill7895]

Man, those guys must have been in top grade physical shape as much running as they did. 🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃

[@bridgetgibson5998]

Wow Commander I'm sure when I seen him he was Inspector George Gideon but I never clocked his first name just the Gideon bit

[@SigmundJaehn]

So many recognised John Hurt. Not so many saw that the boy was Colin from Eastenders.

[@toxievope3617]

Pretty intense program.

[@colettemccoy2921]

Good tv is just good tv thanks

[@jacksugden8190]

Doesn’t make any sense, as they escaped running past a pub, then get jump over a short wall in a prison. Benson has key to fit a certain car, in the end they take a Jaguar… We later see Ruby walk into a house in Muscatt Street, 45 Priory Street is the address that Benson and Tisdale go to, so possibly not opposite Ruby’s house in Muscatt Street. Benson and Tisdalr are at 45 Priory Street watching Ruby’s house. We later see a man and women walk into a house (Muscatt Street?) at either the above addresses, know idea who the man and women were, as we never see them again.

[@chrisrainbow2393]

what an excellent bit of drama,looks like it was made in the early 60s,am I right ?.i am so looking forward to watching the rest of the series. I was probably too young to watch when it was first aired. I recognise most of the actors,namely Darren Nesbit from THE PRISONER and Jennifer Wilson from THE BROTHERS to mention but two.

[@robinvn]

chris rainbow Yes Chris you are right. Think I was about 9yrs old at the time, so would be about 1965-65 and as I said before, John Gregson opened a jumble sale I went to on the Saturday of the first episode. He told everyone there to watch his new drama I remember and so I did and was hooked! I have another ready to upload and I'll try and do it tonight, so if you subscribe, you won't miss it!

[@chrisrainbow2393]

will do robin, thanks mate.

[@Khayyam-vg9fw]

Filmed about a month before the last hangings in England.

[@clareshaughnessy2745]

Ah, I think John Gregson was one of my mum’s secret crushes. I’ve now got to the age where he’s one of mine too!

[@aadamtx]

Wow, was John Hurt ever that young!?! 😄

[@northlincsfox243]

I saw this on TalkingPictures. Unbelievable, the Pc got shot and they just carried on as though nothing had happened. Unreal.

[@spudspuddy]

final end shooting is weird, they get in the car almost under tower bridge and as the car drives off tower bridge is way a head in the distance.

[@clareshaughnessy2745]

Baby John hurt!

[@stevenofford495]

I'd never seen John Hurt in anything earlier than the first Alien film.

[@spudspuddy]

very young John Hurt

[@mishahul]

I love those old british series oss 117, jason king, department sss, the saint, the persuaders, the champions danger man, scotland yard, sherlock holmes, the avengers with diana rigg and the return of ht eavengers. I dont know why we dont have good british tv series these days only American bull shit although some are good.

[@Satters]

Lew Grade knew what entertainment the public wanted, the government however destroyed ATV and we the public lost out, we can only imagine what other great productions there could have been

[@DeirdreMcNamara]

They're all catering to the vapid commies running PBS off the US Taxpayer, and making stupid demands, rehashes and modifications...that's why...Downton Abbey writer and producers knew well how to milk that system!

[@mishahul]

who can forget randall and hopkins (deceased) and i forgot the name of the detective series going in the new ford escort

[@stupot4686]

The Professionals

[@susiefoureyes6256]

OMG John Hurt

[@psmiddx2096]

Great location shooting, good to see a young Derren Nesbitt and John Hurt, as well as an even younger Michael "EastEnders" Cashman.

[@WORKERS.DREADNOUGHT]

co-starring John Hurt. Michael Cashman as the boy.

[@stewartbrands]

Anyone recognise streets and location to compare with now?

[@EdelweisSusie]

The security guard in the car park who was stabbed played an amazing corpse: he REALLY went limp and let himself be hauled about.

[@Leigh_Oats]

Just for the record, for those of us who like to keep track of such things regarding _Gideon’s Way_: Both Wikipedia and IMDb say that this episode, titled _The Tin God_ and with John Hurt as Freddy Tisdale, is not the first episode but the fourteenth.

[@robinvn]

Thanks for the info Leigh. You are quite right. I was just going by the order of the DVD. Will have to upload Episode 1 then! :-)

[@Leigh_Oats]

Robin Vaughan Lucky you-you have a DVD of the genuinely first episode of _Gideon’s Way_ (“State Visit”, an especially engrossing episode with Alfie Bass). The few minutes I’ve spent ransacking the www have managed to find only the ninth (“The White Rat”, with the tragically short-lived Virginia Maskell) and your posting of “The Tin God”. I’ve had a bad experience trying to buy what looked to be a decently presented boxed set of _Gideon’s Way_ via the website of what I thought was a reputable publisher, and I still haven’t rescued my money. A bunch of bad amateurs. Never again as far as I’m concerned. Only Amazon from now on. Or KZbin . . . :-)

[@robinvn]

Understand what you mean. I will upload some more then.

[@Leigh_Oats]

Robin Vaughan Far be it from me to drop any such hint, Robin . . . But if anyone jumps up and down about “c*pyr*ght” then we can swear that at least one person tried to _buy_ one of what seemed to be the only decently presented boxed sets of _Gideon’s Way_ and was let down by some slapdash employees of and contractors for a certain huge USA-based international publisher.

[@robinvn]

Lol...no hints detected Leigh! I just wanted to test the water and see if anyone was interested in this great old series and if so, will upload more. Seems ok, so I will put up the first one soon.

[@mohammaddavoudian7897]

I love this series. Great stories and great cast. The only thing is I wish the commander was more involved in catching the criminals himself with a few scenes of fisticuffs, etc. A bit like Simon Templar.....Other than that, A perfect way to enjoy a cuppa and a few Jaffa cakes😊

[@miked6335]

Are we supposed to think that Darren Nesbitt is going for a fake insanity plea at the end? He seemed to have everything else planned well ahead of time.

[@stuartashbourne-martin9629]

One of the escapes is the John Hurt the Elephant Man the naked civil servant and Harry Potter I need a personal favourite of mine and I'm at my Michael Cashman as well the funny world😮

[@amraceway]

The stolen Jaguar morphed from a mark 1 to a mark 2.

[@tarstarkusz]

What a cartoon villain.

[@woodentie8815]

Wasn't Derren Nesbitt in Thunderbirds?

[@varonadee6980]

Which Thunderbirds character did you have in mind? Almost ALL the Supermarionettes look like Derren Nesbitt to ME! They all have his eyebrows, his full lower lip, and his facial bone structure; a couple even have his crop of curly blond hair! 😉

[@kayjones1252]

be nice 2 c young guys in suits 2 day instead of track suits.

[@peterturley1331]

💜😪💔

[@TheSecondof5]

The little girl looks about 6!

[@shamrockshore6308]

I wonder did this inspire Nick Park's creation of Wallace and Gromit?

[@shamrockshore6308]

That should have been, @17:48...I wonder did this inspire Nick Park's creation of Wallace and Gromit?

[@dizzman5546]

Why would 'uncle Charlie' take the boy to his father behind the mother's back, I thought she trusted him.

[@chicagofrank2010]

OMG it's the TARDIS at 29:48

[@Satters]

Police boxes were still in regular use in 1964

[@jacksugden8190]

Good-old fashioned policing, but London was still a very dangerous place, shame the beat coppers did not have shoulder radios instead of relying on those police boxes.

[@michaelangood]

i lived in London at that time. it never occur to me that i could be attacked. now it's another story . no bobbies on the street. i'm glad i enjoyed my time in London then

[@michaelangood]

occurred. sorry. Spanish wine!

[@DeirdreMcNamara]

@@michaelangood Likewise. the bobbies were great, people courteous, underground spotless...

[@jacksugden8190]

@@michaelangoodNot me, as brought up at Brentwood in Essex in the 1950’s, make visits to East London in late 1950’s to see Trolleybuses at Aldgate - 68 on 10/02/24 🎂.

[@stephenroney6490]

At 9.45 the young boy, just turned 13 and a half in real life that played the boy Syd Benson went on to play the gay character Colin in Eastenders, (and is of course a gay advocate for equal rights) and a former Labour MSP for 15 years, Micheal Cashman.

[@VLind-uk6mb]

MEP.

[@LydellFisk]

A cautionary tale for thems wiff dreams of being a Flash Geezer. Mind how you go.

[@johnblazehtml]

Gideon & midian

[@alecblunden8615]

There is a remarkable difference between these programs - made with imagination and without the need for shock and horror - and the awful American and stodgy modern programming.

[@DeirdreMcNamara]

American programming is made by "teams" of writers few of whom have ever read a book, let alone a classic, grew up with the TV as babysitter and who merely rehash old story-lines, upping the violence, sadism and porn every time. And they have to dodge the Weinsteins too... Old timers had real life experience and came from multiple backgrounds...few ever graduated from "media studies" or film school. I'm objective but not impartial as my great scripts are being eaten by the mice in Mayo... (archived in National Library of Ireland and Library of Congress) until I find a decent agent who doesn't introduce met o Weinsteins or give my original story lines away. It's a dodgy, crooked business...shudda stayed in UK.

[@VLind-uk6mb]

@@DeirdreMcNamara If you can't stay in the UK does not mean you can't sell there. Get a UK agent, aim for a UK market.

[@tarquin45]

The two escapees at the start of the film John Hurt and Derren Nesbitt escape from prison wearing ties! Surely this is a goof in that such an item could be used to either do someone in, if not yourself. Derren overacts with a vengeance from the very start and a feature of the series is the scenes where clearly members of the public are watching the filming, but none the less it is a very watchable series. Far superior to the dreadful Gideon movie made by John Ford and starring Jack Warner. One thing that spoiled the series for me was when the old boy in the Scotland Yard office was replaced by an 'actor' who probably on loan from Crossroads!

[@Satters]

Ties were part of prisoners uniform at the time

[@Arfabiscuit]

Jesus John Hurt

[@annmacleod1099]

All lies , don't call me a lier. You were not there I never wanted anything it's not all I wanted